Om Shanti Om Should be Taught In Film School (w/Neil Mukhopadhyay)| Guilty Pleasures Ep.
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- Om Shanti Om is a cinematic triumph.
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GUILTY PLEASURES
Comedians Zach Kornfeld, Kelsey Darragh, and Garrick Bernard take turns sharing their favorite guilty pleasure movies and TV shows to feel good about feeling guilty.
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This movie was probably the only time where all of Bollywood came together to have a laugh and make a little joke about themselves and it was the best thing to happen in Indian cinema over the past few decades.
Nezuko-chaaaan
Ikr
No border movie probably had bigger starcast and that snake movie
SRK could do Once Upon a Time in Hollywood but Leo DiCaprio couldn't do Om Shanti Om
The scene where Om saves Shanti from the fire in the field, as crazy as it seems, was a reference to a real-life event! Actor Sunil Dutt saved actress Nargis on the set of Mother India in pretty much the same circumstances, though he was the main lead, not an extra. Him and Nargis would marry after that movie. Their son Sanjay Dutt was one of the cameos in the Deewangi Deewangi song!
Oh wow! That's so interesting! I didn't know that!
YES 💯
yeah the entire scene in fact the entire movie at every stage is a parody reference to bollywood in 60s and 70s.@@BiRainbow29
@@BiRainbow29 Entire film is filled with references like that. One of my favourite reference is overacting of Om's mother like character of mothers from 70s movies 😂 & that dhoom reference during award ceremony, they say dhoom 5. It's like saying fast 10 because Dhoom movie series is like fast and furious franchise. These are just few references. There are so many small funny moments which makes you laugh because of how silly they're in the film. 😂 Sometime SRK makes fun of himself through the character he's playing. Because Om Kapoor's character is literally him in real life. Ofcourse he is just making fun of himself. In real life he is really humble, witty and well spoken person.
@@lonewolfe2502 Personally my favourite reference is the Maine Pyar kiya reference where om says the iconic dialogue of "dosti mein no sorry, no thank you" and you see a young Sooraj Barjatiya writing it down. Such a good reference.
watching dhoom isnt a guilty pleasure, it is just guilty 💀
True🤣🤣
No. It is just pleasure
Lol😂😂
LoL 😂
So guilty that you should be sent to Jail for few weeks for watching it again. 😂
Watching Om Shanti Om without being familiar with Bollywood is like watching Scary Movie but never watching a horror movie. You can still enjoy it but there's a whole bunch of things that will just completely go over your head.
The first clip with the disco scene, other than the parts with SRK, are actually directly from a 1980 Bollywood film, Karz. One of the biggest songs in that movie is Om Shanti Om, the song being performed in that scene in fact. I don't think you guys truly realise how absolutely stuffed full of references to both old and contemporary Bollywood this movie is. You guys watching this as your first Bollywood movie is like watching Endgame as your first MCU movie.
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exactly it's like skipping 22 movies and jumping right on endgame... you can enjoy but wouldn't know most references.
I want ai people, which could actually be the reality. Who have knowledge.
This movie is filled with Bollywood references that I'm sure you guys missed most of. It's an homage to Bollywood. This is a movie that would be amazing to watch once you are familiar with Bollywood.
I swear I DID NOT see this coming 😅
Me too. Woke up to it on Spotify and my jaw dropped!
I was about to write the SAME thing!!!!
I know right
Biggest plot twist of my life!
SAME LOL😂😂😂😂
you guys did not talk enough about Deepika Padukone. For her breakout film, she’s phenomenal
Did they even mention her by name? They need to do a Deepika deep dive.
Relax, stop overdoing it. She’s not phenomenal, there are much. better actresses than her.
Exactly yess😂
You’re trying to sound unique, she’s objectively talented and was very good in this movie. You don’t need to be a ‘Stan’ to think that
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316 Your personal feelings about her are NOT facts. She was good but NOT phenomenal. Stop insulting real talent.
Deepika played badminton before becoming a model before getting into acting. Her dad was one of the best badminton players of his day and represented India internationally.
I'm here for this era of Indian Cinema on Guilty Pleasure!
The genre of this movie is "masala". The word masala means a mix of different spices. So a masala movie is a mix of different genres.
this movie is the best example of that idea of "you gotta fully and intricately understand (and love) something in order to parody it"
also farah khan has made two (2) shah rukh khan movies (the other is main hoon na) and they are both the best shah rukh khan movies so clearly she's doing something right
Guys most Bollywood actors don't sing! SRK didn't sing in this movie or any, because he really can't lol. That's why "his voice" sounds different in every song in the movie. This isn't seen as a negative thing btw, the playback singers are famous in their own right and tour and everything. It is just another collaborative element of filmmaking. Film music is the main source of popular music in India, so people want the singers to be able to actually sing. A positive of this is you don't have to be super hot to be a successful pop singer in India, and your career can last well into your old age.
i'm so glad that you put so much effort to put down this comment... it's all true...and everything that i wanted to say
Opening TH-cam to see my fav people talking about my fav childhood movies is just so exciting
I’m in film school and we are watching this film in a few weeks in my world cin class! I will def be coming back to this episode after we watch it.
Update: this film was a RIDE oh my goodness. So fucking fun
@@elladaley10So cool!! It was one of the best films in the past 2 decades for sure
The way my jaw literally dropped seeing the Thumbnail alone 😱😱😱 You guyyyyyyys, this is my truest guilty pleasure movie for over a decade that I cannot ever get enough of.. And having you guys talk about this soooo out of the blue is WILD!!! 😱😍😱😍
i look for every excuse to rewatch this movie and this is it im rewatching
Those songs were actual super hit Bollywood songs.. Like they were doing parody of lots of super popular songs.. They are actually imitating the actors of the original songs.. So kind of homage to that entire era and it's cinema and actors..
The scene of him saving shanti from fire is based on a real life story of an super popular actor and actress.. the original pair ended up marrying each other..
The scene where they are doing the fake western shoot out scene, SRK is playing parody of one of the best south Indian actor of all time - Rajnikanth..
I love Shah Rukh Khan and have tried to watch any movie he's in, my favorite (and my introduction to Bollywood) is Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge. The first act can be a bit cringey but the second half completely makes it worth the watch. It's the most beautiful love story I've ever seen.
I literally bought the soundtrack to this after I was in India when it came out: the music was BLASTING literally everywhere and there were 5 million billboards promoting it, what a time to have gone there
Zach, the actress that plays Shanti is Deepika Padukone and she is in XXX: Return of Xander with Vin Diesel.
This is absolutely crucial information for Zach!!
As SRK put it once that Farah Khan is the biggest fan of the movies and he’s a close second.
P.S. The movie was a reinterpretation of ‘Bombay Dreams’ by Andrew Lloyd Webber which the director worked on.
ohhhh that's so funny, especially because I always wondered why Farah put in so many Phantom of the Opera references!! the connection makes even more sense now
If you keep doing Bollywood, Bajirao Mastani is a must! And Tumbbad would be great for Halloween!
Yes please!!
All three of our lovely hosts agreed that 70s Om could have just passed away at the burning mansion and while I agree, him being born at the hospital reinforces the theme of retrubutive justice. Just like how no good deed goes unpunished and Om became collateral damage during shanti’s murder since he tried to save her, the filmmaker also emphasizes that people can change for the better and be rewarded for it. The actor who sees to Om’s medical care was the same one who completely forgot abt his wife’s pregnancy whilst talking abt his awards. While he was being waited on, hand and foot on the red carpet, he is seen taking his wife to the hospital himself n also stopping to save another a stranger’s life while his wife is in labour. This supposed shift in his focus from himself to his loved ones as well as others is what ensures someone as loyal as Om is reborn to him as a son. Of course this also facilitates Om to give Mike his comeuppance.
Woahhhhhhhh I did not realise this. Amazing.
This podcast needs an Ian level enthusiasm for the Bollywood movies. So many things I wanted to add and was shouting at the screen. I love that Bollywood is making a mark but I think we need someone more enthusiastic about the art.... like Lilly Singh. Someone who grew up obsessed and can understand the callbacks and troupes really well. I'm very appreciative of the podcast for making us feel seen and heard properly! ❤
Omg I would love to see Lilly with them talking about Bollywood!!
oh, what a joy in life it would be to be referred to as "bad. bad. bad" repeatedly by garrick bernard. gets me every time
literally though 😂
26:55 I think WE ALL need to hear Zach say BHAAAAAAGOOOOO!!! The amount of times I say this line on a day to day basis and then get on guilty pleasures to listen to this admiration is literally *chefs kiss*
as a bollywood lover from birth, i loved watching these guys discover and be awed by it! but with all of their comments about being so awed by the level of detail and richness in the details, now i really just want to see their reactions to some of the newer Sanjay Leela Bhansali movies! because i spent half the time listening to them just thinking, "man, you would lose your MINDS if you'd seen some of the period pieces bollywood does". also agree that it would have been nice to have a guest who actually had more applicable bollywood knowledge they could contribute to the conversation, *especially* since they chose a movie with as much industry meta as OSO for their first foray into bollywood.
Maybe something to watch for yourselves but David Letterman does an ep with him and he speaks of his life and stuff. I am soooooo happy you guys watched this movie. My freaking childhood. The nostalgiaaaaaa ❤
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WE SUGGESTED THIS! I’m so happy the episode is finally here ❤
So happy
makes me wanna rewatch om shanti om for the millionth time
I’ve been saying this movie is ahead of it’s time. There’s nothing like this that has been made since. ❤
It's basically a rip off of karz.
Yup that's why the first scene is the shooting of karz
@@Arjit00But Katz wasn’t funny & and they did pay homage to it.
I absolutely LOVE this foreign film Era GP is in. You're introducing me to all this amazing "cinema" that I wouldn't know to look for otherwise. Thank you.😊
This episode caught me by surprise in the best way possible 😭😭😭 Om shanti om is one of my absolute favourite movies and it's a love letter to Bollywood movies. Absolutely love that y'all not only watched but loved it too.
13:07 guys bollywood actors also indian actors in general dont sing. They are lipsyncing to playback singers.
You guys have to do "Sholay" (1975) next! A masterpiece in Indian cinema, typically considered to be the best and most influential Hindi movie!
I wish they could’ve talked about all the cameos (example: the director in the first scene being the lady fighting SRK for the jacket) and all the references to older Indian cinema (some I’m still only learning years later!).
It’s so fun to hear them talk about this movie and I can precisely recreate those scenes in my head from rewatching it so many times.
I rewatch Om Shanti Om at least every year (already done for this year) but I’m inspired to go watch it again just to appreciate it all.
My childhood 🥲❤ Definitely one of the best movies ever!! You best believe these songs play at every wedding 😭😂
Lots of Easter eggs in this movie 👌🏽 Farrah Khan was standing next to SRK in the crowd of the disco scene. Also, the disco song and Dhoom Taana was a tribute montage to movies that came out in the 60s-70s (they included the OG actors and scenes from those songs). The tennis court scene song is called, Dhal Gaya Din.
The award show scene with SRK's movie previews were parodies to movies he's done with his go to move of opening his arms with a girl running towards him 😂
Movie suggestions: Kal Ho Naa Ho, Laagan, Ram Leela.
Comparing SRK to Channing Tatum is such a horrible comparison. No offense to the guest, but even he said he doesn't know much about Bollywood. Please have better informed guests when you review foreign films. There were so many incorrect things that he didn't correct.
I’m white and cringing at the factual inaccuracies. 😂 They def need to research more but I’m glad they’re getting exposed to Indian cinema.
True Zack was more accurate than this guy. So many inaccuracies he kept saying with so much confidence
ROCKY AUR RANI. OR K3G needs to be on their list !!!!
Okay, Farah Khan was a huge Choreographer, not a Cinematographer. I'm loving this episode but I genuinely hope you guys could have someone who's a little more well versed with the industry 🥺 there has already been a few misinformed trivia and im only half way through the episode.. 🥺🙈 We really want you guys to indulge in Bollywood + Indian Films in general, but pleaseeeee have a research team or some well versed guests 🥺❤️
Yeah lol, I was thinking the same. No shade to him, he seems like a nice person. But he's on the same level of knowledge about Bollywood as Zach and Garrick so there's not really a point of him being there.
@@misbahabduljabbar8058 agreed 🥺
okay i haven't finished this video yet and idk if anyone else thought this, but what i thought when i first watched om shanti om a couple of years ago - the second half of this film is hamlet, right? like a guy realises that someone is a murderer through supernatural means, and puts on a performance of the murder to expose the murderer's guilt? it's genuinely incredible i love it so much
I started watching this, paused it, rewatched the movie and came back cause damn I LOVE THAT MOVIE and I LOVE that y’all covering this!!
Another Indian movie.. yes yes.. I am living for this era ✨✨✨✨💖💖✨💖✨💖✨💖✨
I did not expect this and I'm SO HAPPY! This is one of my favourite movies of all time!!
Im surprised y'all missed the fact that Deepima Padukone was in Fast and Furious XXX with Vin Diesel and did so much promo with him!
Lots of misinformation and missed information in this episode guys.... might be better to invite someone more knowledgeable who can give a better insight into Indian cinema.
Yes felt myself cringe because they were getting so much wrong.
Yaar I was thinking the same too 😮😮. Neil is nice and all, but his lack of understanding made me cringe. As an Indian how could you fail to not recognize an iconic scene from Karaz or mention the late great Rishi Kapoor. Also that our beloved Farah was a choreographer that is why the dance numbers are so magical. But my favorite scene is the film fare award one, so many icons hamming it up 😅😅😅😅, Dhoom 5, Khiladi, and ".....naam thoo soona tha"😂😂😂😂.
YESSSSS I WAS WAITING FOR A BOLLYWOOD EPISODE!!!!! and Om Shanti Om??? an absolute banger
AWWW ❤ this makes my heart so happy there is soooo many wonderful movies and even the newer movies coming out are amazing!! SRK stan forever and ever this man is generational!!!
12:50 There are playback singers so not all actors use their voice although that’s changing nowadays.
21:27 It’s a reference to Shammi Kapoor and Helen in the ‘60s.
Kabhi khushi kabhi gham please!!!
the way I smiled when I saw you guys pick Om Shanti Om. I'm not Indian but I remember watching this movie and loving it dearly ❤
19:52 OSO isn’t representative of every film. Obviously, it depends on the situation. You can have songs in more ‘realistic’ settings without that many extras.
There is no way to describe what SRK is to Bollywood, you simply had to grow up with it.
The sheer joy I got when I saw this come up in my feed this morning! One of my absolute favorite movies and my intro into how great Bolly and Tolly wood really are.
If they like SRK I’d love to see them react to something like Veer Zaara! Growing up I didn’t really care to watch Bollywood movies, but I remember really loving this! 🥹
I watched this movie when I was a kid now I NEED to watch it again.
0:06 “I’m THEE King of thee world.”
i’m going to cry i can’t believe you guys did this movie
Though I concede to the fact that you miss a lot of references by having this be your first Hindi Film, I think it was the best move for me, it's like it takes all the industry tropes, boosts them to 11, and says "well audience, this is us over here, take it or leave it"
When I'm selling it to new watchers, I always describe it as a trial by fire, if you can open your heart to Om Shanti Om, you may have opened yourself up to loving another film industry (in my case, one that didn't abandon musicals the way Hollywood has)
20:30 I love the badminton sequence in ‘Dhoom Tana’. It’s very funny.
The soundtrack of this movie is elite - as a nri who is trying to reconnect with my roots, I loved the songs and Main Agar Kahoon is the first Hindi/Urdu song I learned to sing in its entirety.
Feedback - SRK wasn't in the 70s films but it was a homage to old school Indian / Hindi cinema. Also there are equally famous playback singers. Love you guys but y'all should do a little more research before recording your reaction.
I still shun Bollywood as a Desi but thats mostly for reasons like misogyny and lack of creativity. All that being said even i have exceptions like Swadesh and Taare Zameen Par, the later was one of the first time I saw myself in Desi cinema as someone with learning disabilities.
There are plenty of Bollywood movies that empower women, and there are more prominent and successful female directors in Bollywood than Hollywood. I don't think it's fair to shun all of their creative output due to the misogyny of some. That'd be like shunning all of Hollywood after watching Michael Bay movies.
Listen, Bollywood is not an underdog. They’ll always have 1 billion people in their audience who love all the singing, and dancing. I’m also not basing this off of one film you know, I’ve been watching Bollywood, my whole life, did you not read the part where I said I am Desi? I am actually South Asian. I’ve been watching Bollywood movies longer than I’ve been watching Hollywood movies.
@@kotaniyumiko yes you're desi, and? I am as well, and have also grown up watching more Bollywood than Hollywood. And despite being desi, it seems you're not aware of the massive movement to boycott Bollywood in India by right-wing nationalists who find Bollywood too progressive for them, in favour of movies from other Indian film industries that in fact feature even more misogyny a lot of the time.
I never said that Bollywood is an underdog. I just wanted to assert that many of the films you automatically shun due to their origin are actually great stories about women, many times written and directed by women too. You're not morally superior for generalising and writing off Bollywood btw.
Also I'm assuming based on your username that you're into Japanese culture, and if so, this discussion becomes even more hilariously ironic. Are we going to act like misogyny in Japan is not horrendously bad also? And yet you're happy to consume that.
I know you are but what am I? What are you 12? Like come on man, butthurtness is not a good look 🙄 I didn’t even say anything about all Indian cinema, just Bollywood. But since you’re so unwilling to use even an ounce of critical thinking, I’m done with this conversation bye 👋
You have to watch Dor, Paheli, Dear Zindagi, English Vinglish. I love them and they're not nearly as insufferable as regular "trash" Bollywood.
One of the most impactful movies from my childhood. I had to close my eyes when Omi was beaten death
this is so wild that you are doing a ton of indian movies, I did not see this coming 😭
I’ve loved this movie since I was a kid. The references, music numbers, and everything about it is so good.
This was so unexpected and i love their enthusiasm for the movie
oh wow this one is weirdly unexpected but also so naturally feels appropriate here after the other indian movies
I want to clarify one thing that Zac said: the songs are actually sung by playback singers. It's not actually the actors singing. The songs are recorded separately and the actors lip sync on screen. Love that you guys covered SRK/this movie! My favourite movie of his is Darr, where he plays the villain/anti-hero.
ummm srk wasnt in movies in the 70s its just an homage to the cinema at that time
You guys have gotta watch Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, followed by Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham!
Guys. Indian actors don't sing. They lip sync. The song is sung by "playback singers".
This is being taught in my Intro to Film Study class at Stanford! So trust this film is getting the flowers it deserves
18:34 Haha there’s always a source of wind somewhere. It just adds to the drama.
This movie is pretty much the equivalent of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, very much a tribute to old bollywood for half the movie
Omg omg omggg. This is my favorite bollywood movie and I don't know why it didn't occur to me to suggest it but waking up to the notification on Spotify made my Monday morning better. I literally skipped to work on a Monday!
I’m happy they did this but pissed that talk about how hot the other actors were. And I’m surprised they got an Indian that doesn’t know much about Indian cinema. One of the ways I’m very close to my dad is because of indian cinema. And because of that, I’m slightly above average in my Indian cinema knowledge. If only I was there
OM Shanti OM is definitely one of the South Asian film where the songs are understandable. Like first disco song and Derdy disco song are literally a part of shooting, Then him and shanti, where 70,80 and 90s were represented is also a song from movie but he imagined himself and changes the face of male leads in his imagination, the date song, like him and his bff planned a dreamy date, you see they are in a set, playing. The after party, I mean It's a after party. The sad song,which you have got, and the last big one, which OM choreographed to tell him the story (a literal musical)
OMG Zachary! I love that you did a deep dive on this movie! Yesssssss!❤
Watch Shyam Singha Roy next! It's a Tollywood movie, and you will discover the (follicular and artistic) excellence that is the lead actor Nani ❤
I watch Pranavalaya once a week. It's such a great song and performance.
So glad yall watched this but i cant believe you didn't bring up the plot twist at the end! That theme that plays throughout ties in so beautifully to what happens in the last scene of the movie, just hearing it makes me cry from how devastated I was by the ending.
Oh wow, I do love that you guys saw this movie and I will complete this pod fully but the guest might as well just be the honorary Indian guy because he does NAWT know anything about Bollywood. Which is fine, but like? Why is he the only person to be included in this episode? He's on the same level of knowledge about Bollywood as Zach and Garrick. He said so many incorrect "facts", it started getting on my nerves. No shade to him, I was just under the impression that you guys brought someone who was going to help you understand the references in this movie or is like a huge fan of the movie and would help you with insight about Bollywood. But he's just taking random guesses.😅. Would've been even better if there was another person who had more insight about Bollywood along with Neil on the episode. 💜
LETS FUCKING GO!!! as an Gen Z Indian American raised on Bollywood, I feel SEEN
I literally just watched this movie recently. One of the best films and one of my favorites of all time. I LOVE and am OBSESSED with Bollywood movies. SRK as well as Deepika and all of the actors in that movie were great! I was hooked the entire movie!
I would LOVE for them to make an episode on the movie, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge, a classic and also features SRK in it too! Really great episode, loved hearing your commentary!
A third Indian movie on the pod is not on my bingo card.. guys love you
Although I love the comedy, glitz and glam, I also hope you’ll cover the other side of the coin. Would love it if you could do a movie like Fire (1996 - Deepa Mehta). The reason it’s a guilty pleasure is because it covered a subject so deeply hid at the time, that it caused protests in India. So rather than a popular understanding of a guilty pleasure, it was a literal pleasure because it covered a topic people were made to feel guilty about. Throw the term on its head!
Watch Main Hoon Na, if you can, that movie has so many good childhood memories attached to it
You guys HAVE TO watch Sardar Udham and Padmaavat
next!!! Peak grounded historical Bollywood!
Neil has a fabulously calming voice. Very nice to listen to
42:00 Hindi Cinema which is not the same as South Indian Cinema.
Om Shanti Om is one of my favorite films of all time!!! So excited for this ep.
Omg I had replied to their questions about recommending stuff outside Hollywood, but I said DDLJ K3G and KKHH, and forgot about Om Shaanti Om, what a pleasant surprise!
There is an old movie of SRK named Koyla, bad movie, wouldn't recommend. But there is a scene in which he is on fire, running on train tracks. I thought it was a stunt double, then one day on TV they showed the BTS of the movie and they showed the shooting of that scene and it was literally SRK on fire, they covered him in rags and lit him on fire and he ran. Like my mind was blown. Huge respect.
Also comparing srk to channing tatum is insane . I dont think his catalogue of movies is equal to any western star . I understand that you guys dont know anything about him but he's beloved by millions of people.he's done so many genres and now is doing more action based films. he had talked about it in a documentary on netflix called "the romantics" where he mentioned he wanted to be an action hero but how ddlj kinda cemented him as a romantic hero . Its very cool to see that hes doing those action movies now.
The scene where Shah rukh saves Deepika froom the fire was inspired by two stars froms the 70s Sunil Dutt and Nargis. She fell in love with him after he saved her life.
They where married all there life until she sadly passed away from cancer.
I love Om Shanti Om! I'm so excited!
3 idiots next pleaseeee 🥺
Loved this! I haven't watched the movie since it first came out but the nostalgia really hits. Great cast, in my opinion!
I'd like to recommend '3 Idiots' (2009). Also a fun movie to watch!