The fact that this series of videos exists is really encouraging. The way the videos are set up, fostering math dialogue in the comments and having a challenge question at the end - is an excellent way to communicate otherwise-intimidating math concepts and intuition to the masses! You have earned my subscription!
My solution for the pants was to invert the top of the pants out and down to the floor, and invert the legs back up through themselves, so that the pants are inverted but also upside-down.
I spent a while at the beginning of the video. I paused the video as soon as I heard "if you were wearing really stretchy pants, could you remove them without lifting your feet." My answer is no, but let's see if I'm wrong lol. I was stuck for a while, but soon realized that the pants can be reduced to essentially a rectangle with two holes, where the two holes come from the two pant legs. The waist part can be expanded and flattened to the floor in the shape of a rectangle. The rectangular part isn't so important, but it is important to note that the pants are homeomorphic to something with two "holes". So from there, I envisioned standing with my left foot in one of the holes, and my right foot within the other hole - While the rest of the rectangular part lay around my feet, on the floor. From here, I guess you could lift the other hole up and over to the other foot, but from there, with the two holes stacked on top of one another, there is no way to remove it from both legs. And I think another thing worth mentioning is that, while the pants have two holes essentially, our entire figure (with out legs, hips and floor making a sort of triangle) has just one hole. The arms and torso, etc., do not contribute to any additional holes. Now if we take what we've learned from VSauce, we know that the body has a couple of "Through holes," such as the gastrointestinal tract. If we include this as a part of our solution space, MAYBE we can remove the pants! Let's see if I'm wrong! Edit: That wasn't even the right question. ;[
I'm pretty sure that you can stretch a human shape into a t-shirt shape. Nostrils become the sleeves, mouth becomes collar, and "aboral" end becomes the bottom opening.
You technically have the outer and middle ear separated by the ear drum, with the middle ear connected to your sinuses via the Eustachian tubes. Since these are dead ends they act like the "cup part" of a coffee cup and do not count as holes.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm also pretty sure that the bladder is separate from the intestines. So that would leave only four holes going into the digestive system. Making a human a genus-3 surface, same as a t-shirt.
Under the standard definition of convergence, the sum of (-1)^n diverges. But it converges under a broader definition of convergence called Cesaro convergence. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ces%C3%A0ro_summation
Nope. Usually with any youtube math video, you need to dig a bit deeper to get to the actual rigor of what's going on.
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With the logic that 1+1-1+1-1+...=-1/12 you can also say that sqrt(-1)=infinity or -infinity, depending on how you execute the approximation algorithm.
I think you have your series mixed up. The series (-1)^n=1+1-1+1-1+1... converges to 1/2. The sum of all natural numbers, 1+2+3+4+5+... converges (through 'analytic continuation') to -1/12.
There seems to me to be an evolution across the PBS Digital series, where the subjects vary from the very deep to the very accessible, but doing so by being "accessibly deep" and "deeply accessible". That is, seeing the mystery in common everyday observations, and finding clarity in deep and obscure theory. It's like a boxer working an opponent from low to high and back, but in this case seeking ways to impart knowledge rather than punches. Thanks!
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And despite all that topological pant action scenes, still not a single hair moved.
By the way, genetics has ties to knot theory which is related to topology. Bacteria use special turing-like "algorithms" to untangle their own DNA when it gets knotted. They do so using a mathematically minimum number of DNA slices and how they do it exactly is not only not known by scientists but also requires solutions to problems in knot theory that we still don't know yet. (correct me if I'm wrong - my information is not completely upto date. Here's some fun: I thought of a good idea... find a set of 4 characters in the ascii extended chars that can represent the gene sequences A T G and C so that when negated, the image is it's opposite (A T) (GC). Here's what I came up with: A = • (black circle in a white box) T = ◘ (white circle in a black box) G = ○ (black ring in a white box) C = ◙ (white ring in a black box) If you express the Genes rather than atgtactgtca, but as it's RNA/inverse-RNA pairing is it would be in nature (nature's redundancy plan) then inverted blackwhite, equals it's flipped image... cggatttagcgagtaattctacgagaatagcgactgtaagtacggacttggcaagtaatt gcctaaatcgctcattaagatgctcttatcgctgacattcatgcctgaaccgttcattaa ◙○○•◘◘◘•○◙○•○◘••◘◘◙◘•◙○•○••◘•○◙○•◙◘○◘••○◘•◙○○•◙◘◘○○◙••○◘••◘◘ ○◙◙◘•••◘◙○◙◘◙•◘◘••○•◘○◙◘◙◘◘•◘◙○◙◘○•◙•◘◘◙•◘○◙◙◘○••◙◙○◘◘◙•◘◘•• By the way, this may work better with a monospace font like Lucida Console. Just bored and looking for things to entertain on the weekend. :-)
To the question posed at 11:15, if you add all of the terms defined by the sequence 1/n^p, the resulting series will converge as long as p>1, no matter how close you get, and it will diverge if p≤1. In a sense, 1/n is the series on the cusp of converging.
Jup, that's what I was thinking about as well. It confused me that 1/1+1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16 .... does not generalize to 1/n^2 but (1/2)^n. So I am not sure whether op means the geometric series or the p-series.
That series is on the verge of converging, but it's a wide verge. The series 1/n for n = 1, 3, 5, ... diverges more slowly so it's arguably "more convergent" than 1/n for n = 1, 2, 3 ... And you can always find a series that diverges even more slowly. So in addition to an infinite sequence of series that are "almost divergent", there is an infinite sequence of series that are "almost convergent". It seems to me that the ideal answer would be a series for which convergence is undecidable. I have a memory, possibly a false one, of learning about such a series many, many years ago.
Convergence cannot be undecidable if you know the underlying sequence that you add together. Of course, you cannot decide whether sum_{i=1}^{n}a_i converges for n to infinity, without knowing what the sequence (a_i)_{i in IN} is. But as long as you know that, there are only two possible cases: - There exists a real number R such that sum_{i=1}^{n}a_i comes arbitrarily close to zero for larger and larger n (and for any given tolerance epsilon, you can find a natural number n such that the difference is at most epsilon _for every natural number larger than n_). - For every real number R there exists a given tolerance epsilon such that the distance of the sum up to n to the number R will stay bigger than epsilon _for infinitely many numbers n_. The way the natural numbers work, you always have one of those two cases up there. The only way to not have infinitely many n with distance bigger than epsilon is to only have finitely many n (duh!), and finitely many n have a largest element. After that largest element, all others will have tolerance smaller than epsilon, or the largest element wouldn't in fact be the largest element for which the distance is bigger than epsilon.
+Franz Luggin I am not sure you know what undecidable means. The question whether an algorithm terminates or not has also only two possible answers but this problem is undecidable. In general, the question whether a series converges or not is indeed not decidable, simply for the reason that there are uncountable many series.
As I said, if you know what the sequence a_i is, i.e. if there is one sequence given, you have enough information to decide what the answer is. There are convergence tests that work even though you do not know what the limit is.
0:00 After careful consideration: yes, by pulling the waistband over one's head, closing it and treating the garment like a pantleg tube. Somewhat acrobatic. 2:35 Seeing this part helped me visualize how the loops swap when just pulling the original depiction inside-out. 2:50 Oh, well there it is. 8:21 Well, that's more efficient.
[05:22] how do you contract a circle to a point-without condensing its finite interior → 0 (you'd be able to do 'most-anything' by merging 0-width-points and expanding them out).
I don't know if this is helpful, but I'll try: The intuition behind those loops is that they start somewhere on the surface of the shape. It could be any point really, but let's mark that point with X. The idea is that, through point X, you feed loop, so that you hold both ends of the rope, then from your hands, each end of the rope connect to the point X, and then they go doing loop things on the surface of that shape. And the intuition with that circle shrinking away is that for sphere, I can simply pull both ends of the string and take the rope back to me. But in case of Donut shape, it forms a loop, so I can't pull it back without letting go from one end or the other(which isn't allowed). The rules are that, I can move the point X around freely(there are some rather mild restrictions to this in some edge cases, but for purposes of this video, it's completely free decision on your part where the point X is). I can also pull both ends of the rope, or give more rope, but I can never let go of either end of the rope. If given these rules, I manage to go from one loop to another, then these loops are considered the same. So in case of sphere, every loop can be made into "rope completely pulled back in", and every loop can likewise made from "rope pulled back in" position by releasing some rope, so every loop is the same. In donut case, you can see how there are different kinds of loops which we cannot make into one another. Like, no matter how much you pull or release the rope, two loops and one loop can't be made into one another.
Romaji, it does get to 0. Consider the map f(r, t) =(r*cos(t), r*sin(t)) for r between zero and one, and t measuring the angle. For r>0 this is a circle, but for r=0, f(0,t)=(0*cos(t), 0*sin(t))=(0,0) so is just a point, regardless of the angle t. This is is an example of a homotopy between two maps.
I'm not really sure how to explain that hole disappearing. I was gonna say the hole was just an illusion, but it's not. Confusing. Anyhow, to get intuition about how this thing works, try this: Press your thumb and middle finger together. On other hand, lock your other thumb and middle finger with first one by doing the same, so your thumbs and middle fingers now form 2 circles and without releasing your thumb and middle finger on either hand, your hands are stuck together. Now because these two rings are connected by your hands, arms and chest, you actually have topologically equivalent situation to the starting position there.(If you're re-reading this because you think you found an error, instead of thinking chest as the connecting piece, lock your elbows together so you get smaller loop) What this morphing she described does, can be explained by simply this: Connect your elbows and wrists, pull your thumbs, sort-of trying to break free from their interlocked status. You now notice that you have managed to smoothly join your hands together and form the exact same shape as in the video.
Hey thanks for your reply! And yeah i see it now. I suppose you can straighten out the thicker curve and then shrink it so that the two rings are touching where the thicker curve connected them.
Why would anyone want to hang a picture using two nails so that if either breaks the picture falls? Half the point of using two nails is so that if one fails there'll still be something holding the picture on the wall until it can be fixed.
I'm in 10th grade and I prepared a project on Topology just a day before the Science Project Exhibition. I explained it in such a way, so much mathematical way that even the research scientist failed to understand it.
For the interlinked rings and the double donut, you can also start by shrinking the big loop until it's just a short conduit between the rings; for convenience, you can rotate the rings to put the conduit at a point where the circles cross visually in the illustration. Then it's just a matter of straightening out the rings so they point in opposite directions.
For the pants, I first pulled the waist down to my ankles, then pulled the ankles up to my thighs; this turns the pants inside-out, but now they're upside-down. However, since they're topological pants, this is easy to fix! Your legs and the planet you're standing on form a ring shape like a donut; just rotate the pants around that ring till they're right side up! First the entire Earth goes through one leg, then your upper body goes through the other leg.
1. yes but not in public-slide one pant over your body and bring the other pant back; 2. and do the hokey-pokey and turn yourself about-that's what topology is all about; 3. if you require using the waist opening, slide the pant over the whole Earth instead.
Great session. Im terrible at all arithmetic disciplines,but I enjoy watching. Love the pants. Quite flattering. The colours well matched the form. I'll keep watching until I start to understand.
at 3:20 you basically erased the hole of that donut, but didn't you said at the beginning of the video that an object cannot be of topology if you erase the hole in the middle?
+nooneofinterest I That one tricked me too at first, but then I noticed that the large hole in the middle isn't really a hole. The 2 ends of the loop aren't actually connected, so technically that "hole" is just a loop.
Here's how I'd hang the picture from two nails: Run the string clockwise over the left nail, then counterclockwise around the right nail, then counterclockwise around the left nail, then clockwise over the right nail. This is a 3-strand braid with two strands stretched straight and turned into nails. It's also symmetric.
A question: inflating the main loop at 3:15 doesn't violate the 3rd rule shown at 1:00 ? Or, you mean that the loop is still there but the hole has reduced to a small pore ? Matteo.
I was thinking to just nail one of the nails in deeper into the wall so the head of the nail is under the second one (because you put em close n shit), so when you take it out, the other one comes out without you doing anything :P
Hi! I loved this video. Back in the day, I couch surfed in the home of a UC Berkeley mathematician at the time when Grisha Perelman announced his proof of the Poincare Conjecture. It was all "yeah, we'll see" at the time. What ever became of it? I remember a hastily called meeting at the Uni.
When iterating ƒ(x) = x² + c with certain real values of c, the number will bounce around infinitely between 2 and -2 never coming back to the same value. I just love that. ^_^ This is very strongly related to the Mandelbrot set.
The simplest case I can think of is a sphere and a bowl being topologically identical. If you've ever handled a ball that is completely deflated so that it collapses in on itself, it forms a bowl shape. Add air, and it takes on a familiar sphere shape (at least approximately).
Another answer to the second question asked at the end: If a_n is a positive sequence whose series diverges to infinity, then there is always an asymptotically smaller sequence b_n which still diverges. By asymptotically smaller, i mean that b_n/a_n -> 0. The same is true for convergent series just in the other direction. This shows that there isn't really any edge for these things.
the question about border between finite and infinite series, well, you can distort the sequence 1/n into 1/n², but the obvious one is to let the power change continuously. what I'm going at is the zeta function = 1 + 1/2^s + 1/3^s + ... if this is what we choose, then actually s = 1 the harmonic series *is* the edge. because choosing any power slightly larger than 1 gives us a finite sum, and from 1 and below the series diverges to infinity. (for values less than 1 or 1+imaginary part, zeta is no longer defined as the series)
0:34 -- This statement seems fishy. By my understanding, topological isomorphisms can't form or dull creases, so how are a cube and a sphere equivalent?
Possibly. I remember a pair of videos by some channel or another about turning a sphere inside out, and creasing wasn't allowed. Either way, converting between finite and infinite values (in this case, for curvature) seems like something that every field of math should care about.
mvmlego1212 you are confusing homeomorphisms (continous in 2 directions) and diffeomorphisms (diffrentiable in 2 directions). Topology is all about the first, the second belongs in diffrential geometry. Example: f(x)=abs(x) is a map that turns the real line into a line with a corner. It is still obviously continuous, yet it is not diffrentiable. Topology is a very nice non-numeric field in which diffrentiability has no place
Fun stuff, I just finished BS in Math a few weeks ago and my last math course was an independent study in Algebraic Topology! Are you familiar with the recent research in Homotopy Type Theory? Essentially, you apply the intuition of topology to the notions of term and type. Types are recognized as spaces in the same sense as a topological space, and terms with a certain type are regarded as points in those spaces. For example, the natural numbers are points in the space Nat. Under this scheme, equality of terms (a=b) is a path between terms (a path starting at a and ending at b). Also regarding the question about the harmonic series, I'm reminded of the Kempner series: basically, if you remove terms from the harmonic series which contain any particular string of digits in the denominator in any particular base (originally, any term in base-10 containing a "9") the series converges. Given this and the incredibly slow rate at which the harmonic series diverges to infinity, it's always felt to me like the harmonic series itself exists on a sort of cusp between divergence and convergence, at least in the traditional (non p-adic) sense of convergence.
I love this. Because I am highly interested in the topology of the universe, and the other fields that are around us must also have topologies and would be mind annihilating to keep in 3D, probably.
I remember a pictorial essay in Esquire mag about prisoners figuring out a way to take their pants off while wearing ankle shackles. They did pick up their feet!
My solution to the pants problem was to turn the left.leg/Earth/right.leg loop into a torus. The pants became a toroidal sheath with a hole in it. I then stretched the hole all the way over both toroid and sheathe. Inside out pants!
There was a proof I saw somewhere that for any series that diverges to infinity, there is a sequence that diverges slower. There is similarly a proof that for any convergent series, there is a series that converges slower.
i can do this with regular pants/jeans, turn them inside out, but in the end they lose some of their purpose. you pull down the upper part, then pull the insides of your legs up to your waist. now you still "wear" your pants but they are inside out, without lifting a foot.
That reminds me of a part of topology called Non-Orientable Manifolds, and it specifically reminds me of möbius loops. You can connect two möbius loops (one left-handed and one right-handed), each one having only one edge, and the combination of them will produce a shape that requires four spatial dimensions to exist called a Klein Bottle. It has no edges and only one side. In three spatial dimensions it intersects with itself in a given location, but in a fourth spatial dimension this never happens.
So I tried taking off underwear without lifting my feet from the floor. I suddenly need new underwear, and I have an increased appreciation for thought experiments... 😂
When Kennedy said, "I'm a doughnut" he reminded that (wo)man's digestive system is like the hole in a doughnut, that we are topologically equivalent. Come to Berlin and run Axel Flinth's lecture!
Genus Various: M. C. Escher's wood block prints included several in which the subject was two intertwined, but completely disconnected, worlds. Typically they would have different themes, such as light and dark or summer and winter. Anyway, both those worlds and the negative space surrounding them have so many holes, and (what is perhaps more interesting) they are quite constrained from any meaningful simplification without unacceptable crossing of boundaries. So that's my example, and it's weird like Escher.
Isn't there a flaw at 3:14, since she gets rid of the hole of the bigger loop when she make it into a sphere? She just said at the beginning of the video that you couldn't do that.
I always see nice topological animations, 3d-printed stuff, but how do you construct them? What would be a mathematical function to describe the edge of a Mobius band in 3D? How about the mapping onto it's surface?
This is why coffee and donuts go so well with each other, they are topologically similar
that only works for the mugs, although the thought of coffee in a shape that's homeomorphic to a donut is quite funny
The fact that this series of videos exists is really encouraging. The way the videos are set up, fostering math dialogue in the comments and having a challenge question at the end - is an excellent way to communicate otherwise-intimidating math concepts and intuition to the masses! You have earned my subscription!
Is this it? Is this how you turn a sphere inside-out?
same area of maths. same level of weirdness.
The Brony Notion you bet!
+The Brony Notion groan, so cringy
+HerebyOrdinary He's quoting that video. Come on, dude.
HerebyOrdinary I've seen it. Very interesting stuff.
See numberphile's "a hole in a hole in a hole"
That guy was high on math, plus 3-handle beer mug ftw
Three hole donut plus three handle coffee mug equals a slightly weird time at the office.
I'm 99.99% convinced that the guy in that video is a mad scientist, er, mathematician.
Mathematician pick-up line: "let your pants be topological"
My solution for the pants was to invert the top of the pants out and down to the floor, and invert the legs back up through themselves, so that the pants are inverted but also upside-down.
Matthew Giallourakis That was my thought also. She should have specified that they should be "on" like normal.
Yes, wearing your pants inverted and upside down is a terrible trend! We must stop it before it even starts.
Yeah, you don't even need crazy clown pants for this. I can do it with normal fitting sized gym shorts.
Matthew Giallourakis same
I thought of it in that way as well!!
I want to hang that picture on my wall. My two favorite PBS series hosts.
I spent a while at the beginning of the video. I paused the video as soon as I heard "if you were wearing really stretchy pants, could you remove them without lifting your feet."
My answer is no, but let's see if I'm wrong lol. I was stuck for a while, but soon realized that the pants can be reduced to essentially a rectangle with two holes, where the two holes come from the two pant legs. The waist part can be expanded and flattened to the floor in the shape of a rectangle. The rectangular part isn't so important, but it is important to note that the pants are homeomorphic to something with two "holes". So from there, I envisioned standing with my left foot in one of the holes, and my right foot within the other hole - While the rest of the rectangular part lay around my feet, on the floor. From here, I guess you could lift the other hole up and over to the other foot, but from there, with the two holes stacked on top of one another, there is no way to remove it from both legs. And I think another thing worth mentioning is that, while the pants have two holes essentially, our entire figure (with out legs, hips and floor making a sort of triangle) has just one hole. The arms and torso, etc., do not contribute to any additional holes.
Now if we take what we've learned from VSauce, we know that the body has a couple of "Through holes," such as the gastrointestinal tract. If we include this as a part of our solution space, MAYBE we can remove the pants!
Let's see if I'm wrong!
Edit: That wasn't even the right question. ;[
I'm pretty sure that you can stretch a human shape into a t-shirt shape.
Nostrils become the sleeves, mouth becomes collar, and "aboral" end becomes the bottom opening.
Don't forget the ears. BTW that is one disgusting shirt
Do the ears go into the same cavity as the mouth?
You technically have the outer and middle ear separated by the ear drum, with the middle ear connected to your sinuses via the Eustachian tubes. Since these are dead ends they act like the "cup part" of a coffee cup and do not count as holes.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I'm also pretty sure that the bladder is separate from the intestines. So that would leave only four holes going into the digestive system. Making a human a genus-3 surface, same as a t-shirt.
Cajer 1618 don't nostrils have dead end?
Two shapes that are topologicaly equivalent?
A human digestive system. A donut.
You read my mind, seriously.
No because there is different passages that connect
10:57 "negative 1 plus positive 1 plus negative 1 never settles on a value" tell that to numberphile
Under the standard definition of convergence, the sum of (-1)^n diverges. But it converges under a broader definition of convergence called Cesaro convergence. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ces%C3%A0ro_summation
Dylan Rambow Indeed. They didn't say that in the video though, did they!
Nope. Usually with any youtube math video, you need to dig a bit deeper to get to the actual rigor of what's going on.
With the logic that 1+1-1+1-1+...=-1/12 you can also say that sqrt(-1)=infinity or -infinity, depending on how you execute the approximation algorithm.
I think you have your series mixed up. The series (-1)^n=1+1-1+1-1+1... converges to 1/2. The sum of all natural numbers, 1+2+3+4+5+... converges (through 'analytic continuation') to -1/12.
Could you imagine a topological donut in real life? It'd be the ultimate fidget toy.
Quote of the day: "Let your pants be topological"
There seems to me to be an evolution across the PBS Digital series, where the subjects vary from the very deep to the very accessible, but doing so by being "accessibly deep" and "deeply accessible". That is, seeing the mystery in common everyday observations, and finding clarity in deep and obscure theory.
It's like a boxer working an opponent from low to high and back, but in this case seeking ways to impart knowledge rather than punches.
Thanks!
And despite all that topological pant action scenes, still not a single hair moved.
This is one of my favorite videos to come out of the Infinite Series.
The topic is enjoyable, and the comedy is perfect
Sometimes people ask "what's the point of this?" on math videos.
I feel like the hanging picture puzzle is trolling such people.
I once managed to put a jumper on underneath my jacket while keeping the jacket still zipped up
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Minecraftster148790 what is a jumper
Pi a sweater you American
You should do that every day to practice mental strength
Then something was probably wrong or out of place, that isn't possible!
By the way, genetics has ties to knot theory which is related to topology. Bacteria use special turing-like "algorithms" to untangle their own DNA when it gets knotted. They do so using a mathematically minimum number of DNA slices and how they do it exactly is not only not known by scientists but also requires solutions to problems in knot theory that we still don't know yet.
(correct me if I'm wrong - my information is not completely upto date.
Here's some fun: I thought of a good idea... find a set of 4 characters in the ascii extended chars that can represent the gene sequences A T G and C so that when negated, the image is it's opposite (A T) (GC).
Here's what I came up with:
A = • (black circle in a white box)
T = ◘ (white circle in a black box)
G = ○ (black ring in a white box)
C = ◙ (white ring in a black box)
If you express the Genes rather than atgtactgtca, but as it's RNA/inverse-RNA pairing is it would be in nature (nature's redundancy plan) then inverted blackwhite, equals it's flipped image...
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Just bored and looking for things to entertain on the weekend. :-)
To the question posed at 11:15, if you add all of the terms defined by the sequence 1/n^p, the resulting series will converge as long as p>1, no matter how close you get, and it will diverge if p≤1. In a sense, 1/n is the series on the cusp of converging.
Jup, that's what I was thinking about as well. It confused me that 1/1+1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16 .... does not generalize to 1/n^2 but (1/2)^n. So I am not sure whether op means the geometric series or the p-series.
That series is on the verge of converging, but it's a wide verge. The series 1/n for n = 1, 3, 5, ... diverges more slowly so it's arguably "more convergent" than 1/n for n = 1, 2, 3 ... And you can always find a series that diverges even more slowly. So in addition to an infinite sequence of series that are "almost divergent", there is an infinite sequence of series that are "almost convergent".
It seems to me that the ideal answer would be a series for which convergence is undecidable. I have a memory, possibly a false one, of learning about such a series many, many years ago.
Convergence cannot be undecidable if you know the underlying sequence that you add together. Of course, you cannot decide whether
sum_{i=1}^{n}a_i
converges for n to infinity, without knowing what the sequence (a_i)_{i in IN} is. But as long as you know that, there are only two possible cases:
- There exists a real number R such that sum_{i=1}^{n}a_i comes arbitrarily close to zero for larger and larger n (and for any given tolerance epsilon, you can find a natural number n such that the difference is at most epsilon _for every natural number larger than n_).
- For every real number R there exists a given tolerance epsilon such that the distance of the sum up to n to the number R will stay bigger than epsilon _for infinitely many numbers n_.
The way the natural numbers work, you always have one of those two cases up there. The only way to not have infinitely many n with distance bigger than epsilon is to only have finitely many n (duh!), and finitely many n have a largest element. After that largest element, all others will have tolerance smaller than epsilon, or the largest element wouldn't in fact be the largest element for which the distance is bigger than epsilon.
+Franz Luggin I am not sure you know what undecidable means. The question whether an algorithm terminates or not has also only two possible answers but this problem is undecidable. In general, the question whether a series converges or not is indeed not decidable, simply for the reason that there are uncountable many series.
As I said, if you know what the sequence a_i is, i.e. if there is one sequence given, you have enough information to decide what the answer is.
There are convergence tests that work even though you do not know what the limit is.
12:34 Haha, awesome. Both of those challenge winners totally deserved it. Great submissions!
0:00 After careful consideration: yes, by pulling the waistband over one's head, closing it and treating the garment like a pantleg tube. Somewhat acrobatic.
2:35 Seeing this part helped me visualize how the loops swap when just pulling the original depiction inside-out.
2:50 Oh, well there it is.
8:21 Well, that's more efficient.
This happens with my pants every time I try to take them off when I'm drunk😂😂😂
Red and blue donut is cutting and glueing
"I left the proof in my other pants," has never been more true.
[05:22] how do you contract a circle to a point-without condensing its finite interior → 0 (you'd be able to do 'most-anything' by merging 0-width-points and expanding them out).
Theres no reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that
Well, it never actually gets to the point stage. It just approaches it
I don't know if this is helpful, but I'll try: The intuition behind those loops is that they start somewhere on the surface of the shape. It could be any point really, but let's mark that point with X. The idea is that, through point X, you feed loop, so that you hold both ends of the rope, then from your hands, each end of the rope connect to the point X, and then they go doing loop things on the surface of that shape.
And the intuition with that circle shrinking away is that for sphere, I can simply pull both ends of the string and take the rope back to me. But in case of Donut shape, it forms a loop, so I can't pull it back without letting go from one end or the other(which isn't allowed).
The rules are that, I can move the point X around freely(there are some rather mild restrictions to this in some edge cases, but for purposes of this video, it's completely free decision on your part where the point X is). I can also pull both ends of the rope, or give more rope, but I can never let go of either end of the rope. If given these rules, I manage to go from one loop to another, then these loops are considered the same. So in case of sphere, every loop can be made into "rope completely pulled back in", and every loop can likewise made from "rope pulled back in" position by releasing some rope, so every loop is the same. In donut case, you can see how there are different kinds of loops which we cannot make into one another. Like, no matter how much you pull or release the rope, two loops and one loop can't be made into one another.
Romaji, it does get to 0. Consider the map f(r, t) =(r*cos(t), r*sin(t)) for r between zero and one, and t measuring the angle. For r>0 this is a circle, but for r=0, f(0,t)=(0*cos(t), 0*sin(t))=(0,0) so is just a point, regardless of the angle t. This is is an example of a homotopy between two maps.
Why do you allow sewing holes in 2 dimensions like that but not in 3 dimensions? Inconsistent argument.
Why are you not breaking the rule about glueing an existing hole closed at 3:13?
I'm not really sure how to explain that hole disappearing. I was gonna say the hole was just an illusion, but it's not. Confusing. Anyhow, to get intuition about how this thing works, try this:
Press your thumb and middle finger together. On other hand, lock your other thumb and middle finger with first one by doing the same, so your thumbs and middle fingers now form 2 circles and without releasing your thumb and middle finger on either hand, your hands are stuck together. Now because these two rings are connected by your hands, arms and chest, you actually have topologically equivalent situation to the starting position there.(If you're re-reading this because you think you found an error, instead of thinking chest as the connecting piece, lock your elbows together so you get smaller loop)
What this morphing she described does, can be explained by simply this: Connect your elbows and wrists, pull your thumbs, sort-of trying to break free from their interlocked status. You now notice that you have managed to smoothly join your hands together and form the exact same shape as in the video.
Hey thanks for your reply! And yeah i see it now. I suppose you can straighten out the thicker curve and then shrink it so that the two rings are touching where the thicker curve connected them.
I don't see any hole being glued in that part of the video. It's the inflating the tube-shaped connector into a sphere shape.
It was not glued. It's still hollowed but the radius of the hole is small.
Why are they only 2 holes ? I see 3 holes in the arrangement... What exactly is defined as hole and what not ?
Why would anyone want to hang a picture using two nails so that if either breaks the picture falls?
Half the point of using two nails is so that if one fails there'll still be something holding the picture on the wall until it can be fixed.
Amazing format for explaining a complex part of mathematics (and one of the most beautiful ones).
I so love topology, it is just mindblowing on the simplest things :))))
I'm in 10th grade and I prepared a project on Topology just a day before the Science Project Exhibition.
I explained it in such a way, so much mathematical way that even the research scientist failed to understand it.
Your hair-style perfectly explains topology.... Loved the vid :D
Topology is my new favorite math subject.
Ah pleaso more on the fundamental group!
I have lived in a 3D space for my entire life but topology never fails to confuse me.
Ive only watched about 2 videos of yours and i am addicted to this!
5:36 anyone else notice the reference to pbs space time? :)
you mean besides everyone?
naturally xD
Anyone else think Matt is really attractive?
I'm seriously starting to ship these two.
It is a highly corrosive substance. Our bodies are slowly burning from the inside out. Why else would we be giving off so much heat?
Without pushing together any prexisting holes 1:01 -> Now inflate the main loop bigger and bigger until it looks like a ball. 3:12
For the interlinked rings and the double donut, you can also start by shrinking the big loop until it's just a short conduit between the rings; for convenience, you can rotate the rings to put the conduit at a point where the circles cross visually in the illustration. Then it's just a matter of straightening out the rings so they point in opposite directions.
For the pants, I first pulled the waist down to my ankles, then pulled the ankles up to my thighs; this turns the pants inside-out, but now they're upside-down. However, since they're topological pants, this is easy to fix! Your legs and the planet you're standing on form a ring shape like a donut; just rotate the pants around that ring till they're right side up! First the entire Earth goes through one leg, then your upper body goes through the other leg.
Thank you very much to you and youtube.
1. yes but not in public-slide one pant over your body and bring the other pant back;
2. and do the hokey-pokey and turn yourself about-that's what topology is all about;
3. if you require using the waist opening, slide the pant over the whole Earth instead.
wait! doesn't 3:11 inflating glue it together, because the inflation would cause an overlap at the top and make it glue together.
12:47 "And they're being attacked by Pokemon". Thank you, Kelsey.
Great session. Im terrible at all arithmetic disciplines,but I enjoy watching. Love the pants. Quite flattering. The colours well matched the form. I'll keep watching until I start to understand.
That question at the beginning is just how I greet people
at 3:20 you basically erased the hole of that donut, but didn't you said at the beginning of the video that an object cannot be of topology if you erase the hole in the middle?
there is no donut.. was discussed here, get your thumbs and index fingers together and get your hands together. Are you a donut? no
+nooneofinterest I That one tricked me too at first, but then I noticed that the large hole in the middle isn't really a hole. The 2 ends of the loop aren't actually connected, so technically that "hole" is just a loop.
Loved the pants turning out. :)
3:52 didn't the original arrangement have genus 3 ? If not, what exactly constitutes a hole and what does not ?
Please do the rest of the series in those pants
Smooth.
I knew i wasn't the only one hounding
And turn them inside out at the end of every episode.
I want to know what black magic is keeping them on her hips.
Daniel Smith She's topologically equivalent to Shakira.
Here's how I'd hang the picture from two nails: Run the string clockwise over the left nail, then counterclockwise around the right nail, then counterclockwise around the left nail, then clockwise over the right nail. This is a 3-strand braid with two strands stretched straight and turned into nails. It's also symmetric.
A question: inflating the main loop at 3:15 doesn't violate the 3rd rule shown at 1:00 ? Or, you mean that the loop is still there but the hole has reduced to a small pore ?
Matteo.
I was thinking to just nail one of the nails in deeper into the wall so the head of the nail is under the second one (because you put em close n shit), so when you take it out, the other one comes out without you doing anything :P
3:16 How does the third hole disappear?
thanks to pbs and her for the extremely good videos.
5:37 thats herself in the pic ? :)
3:15 Is that not considered patching up a hole and therefore forbidden?
Beautiful and smart, nature should make lots of copies of u
Hi! I loved this video. Back in the day, I couch surfed in the home of a UC Berkeley mathematician at the time when Grisha Perelman announced his proof of the Poincare Conjecture. It was all "yeah, we'll see" at the time. What ever became of it?
I remember a hastily called meeting at the Uni.
When iterating ƒ(x) = x² + c with certain real values of c, the number will bounce around infinitely between 2 and -2 never coming back to the same value. I just love that. ^_^ This is very strongly related to the Mandelbrot set.
The pants thing was awesome.
The simplest case I can think of is a sphere and a bowl being topologically identical. If you've ever handled a ball that is completely deflated so that it collapses in on itself, it forms a bowl shape. Add air, and it takes on a familiar sphere shape (at least approximately).
Another answer to the second question asked at the end: If a_n is a positive sequence whose series diverges to infinity, then there is always an asymptotically smaller sequence b_n which still diverges. By asymptotically smaller, i mean that b_n/a_n -> 0. The same is true for convergent series just in the other direction. This shows that there isn't really any edge for these things.
I would totally use those pants. I would be constantly be flipping them just to mess with people
That framed picture is amazing
@3:12 when you are inflating the main loop, where does its hole goes away????
the question about border between finite and infinite series, well, you can distort the sequence 1/n into 1/n², but the obvious one is to let the power change continuously. what I'm going at is the zeta function = 1 + 1/2^s + 1/3^s + ...
if this is what we choose, then actually s = 1 the harmonic series *is* the edge. because choosing any power slightly larger than 1 gives us a finite sum, and from 1 and below the series diverges to infinity. (for values less than 1 or 1+imaginary part, zeta is no longer defined as the series)
0:34 -- This statement seems fishy. By my understanding, topological isomorphisms can't form or dull creases, so how are a cube and a sphere equivalent?
You are mistaken here. Topology and continuity does not care for these things. Maybe you are thinking of differentiable isomorphisms
Possibly. I remember a pair of videos by some channel or another about turning a sphere inside out, and creasing wasn't allowed. Either way, converting between finite and infinite values (in this case, for curvature) seems like something that every field of math should care about.
mvmlego1212 you are confusing homeomorphisms (continous in 2 directions) and diffeomorphisms (diffrentiable in 2 directions). Topology is all about the first, the second belongs in diffrential geometry. Example: f(x)=abs(x) is a map that turns the real line into a line with a corner. It is still obviously continuous, yet it is not diffrentiable. Topology is a very nice non-numeric field in which diffrentiability has no place
Fun stuff, I just finished BS in Math a few weeks ago and my last math course was an independent study in Algebraic Topology!
Are you familiar with the recent research in Homotopy Type Theory?
Essentially, you apply the intuition of topology to the notions of term and type. Types are recognized as spaces in the same sense as a topological space, and terms with a certain type are regarded as points in those spaces. For example, the natural numbers are points in the space Nat. Under this scheme, equality of terms (a=b) is a path between terms (a path starting at a and ending at b).
Also regarding the question about the harmonic series, I'm reminded of the Kempner series: basically, if you remove terms from the harmonic series which contain any particular string of digits in the denominator in any particular base (originally, any term in base-10 containing a "9") the series converges. Given this and the incredibly slow rate at which the harmonic series diverges to infinity, it's always felt to me like the harmonic series itself exists on a sort of cusp between divergence and convergence, at least in the traditional (non p-adic) sense of convergence.
Where did you bought this pant
I love this. Because I am highly interested in the topology of the universe, and the other fields that are around us must also have topologies and would be mind annihilating to keep in 3D, probably.
I remember a pictorial essay in Esquire mag about prisoners figuring out a way to take their pants off while wearing ankle shackles. They did pick up their feet!
I wonder if there are string arrangements where the order you remove the nails changes the outcome?
3:15-3:17 Doesn't it count as glueing?
My solution to the pants problem was to turn the left.leg/Earth/right.leg loop into a torus. The pants became a toroidal sheath with a hole in it. I then stretched the hole all the way over both toroid and sheathe. Inside out pants!
There was a proof I saw somewhere that for any series that diverges to infinity, there is a sequence that diverges slower. There is similarly a proof that for any convergent series, there is a series that converges slower.
Is it ok if we thought of a different method for deforming the shapes?
Can I buy these pants somewhere?
You know that satisfying moment when you actually use the think break to your advantage and end up getting the right answer? (I got the one at 6:13)
i can do this with regular pants/jeans, turn them inside out, but in the end they lose some of their purpose. you pull down the upper part, then pull the insides of your legs up to your waist. now you still "wear" your pants but they are inside out, without lifting a foot.
That reminds me of a part of topology called Non-Orientable Manifolds, and it specifically reminds me of möbius loops. You can connect two möbius loops (one left-handed and one right-handed), each one having only one edge, and the combination of them will produce a shape that requires four spatial dimensions to exist called a Klein Bottle. It has no edges and only one side. In three spatial dimensions it intersects with itself in a given location, but in a fourth spatial dimension this never happens.
1:00 you cant close the hole into a full ball
3:12 close the hole into a full ball
0:06 Yes! Don't wear the pants while turning them inide out!
This is awesome!
omg that fanart of Matt and Kelsey, tho lmaooooooooo
How is the nails problem related to loops
What is the practical use for topology?
So I tried taking off underwear without lifting my feet from the floor.
I suddenly need new underwear, and I have an increased appreciation for thought experiments...
😂
what would be the fundamental group of Mobius strip and a Klein bottle ?
how many types of progression are there? and is there any series which is arithmetic, geometric, and other as well?
I get the common difference is 0, common ratio is 1 but how is it harmonic?
can you give any other examples of harmonic progression to make it clear?
When Kennedy said, "I'm a doughnut" he reminded that (wo)man's digestive system is like the hole in a doughnut, that we are topologically equivalent. Come to Berlin and run Axel Flinth's lecture!
As regards turning pants inside out, it'd be more practical to turn the knickers from time to time...
Genus Various: M. C. Escher's wood block prints included several in which the subject was two intertwined, but completely disconnected, worlds. Typically they would have different themes, such as light and dark or summer and winter. Anyway, both those worlds and the negative space surrounding them have so many holes, and (what is perhaps more interesting) they are quite constrained from any meaningful simplification without unacceptable crossing of boundaries. So that's my example, and it's weird like Escher.
3:17 i thought u were not allowed to close out the holes?
there's an article in the description? where?!?! 6:24
google Erik Demaine picture hanging or check out his video Math Encounters - Mathematical Magic on the National Museum of Mathematics channel
best book for topology
Isn't there a flaw at 3:14, since she gets rid of the hole of the bigger loop when she make it into a sphere? She just said at the beginning of the video that you couldn't do that.
I always see nice topological animations, 3d-printed stuff, but how do you construct them? What would be a mathematical function to describe the edge of a Mobius band in 3D? How about the mapping onto it's surface?
where is the word algorithm in that picture?
Spelled out in magnetic letters on the wall behind the bridge.
ok thanks 😎
its logarithm like all that high school logₙ x =x to the what power is blah blah blah nonsense
the auto play on TH-cam[for this channel videos only] always go to previous episode rather going to next episode please help.
Hey whadaya know! A math concept that comes naturally to me! Woo hoo!
0:05 You don't need stretchy pants, you could do that with jeans. They're be on the floor rather than on you, but it's possible.
Topology; studying surfaces in reference to holes
Bottomology; studying holes in reference to surfaces