Been a JS/TS dev most of my career, but have been using a ton of Go the past couple of years and must say that Deno seems to mesh those two languages and toolchains together masterfully.
I love that Ryan is doing this. Edit: Things I like: - Whatever company is handling this video, I just want to say: nice. Very nice. - Direct, clear, and concise coding - Minimal music/sound effects - Ryan feels like he's talking to me Things I dislike - The transparent code at 5:19 is hard to follow along with 27:49 Please do some stuff with fresh!!!! I have been holding back starting a bigger project with it but if there is more content/tutorials/starter projects I would love to get down and dirty with the framework. Thank you!!!
Since Ive started doing more Go in the pass year, Deno has become my replacement for bash scripts and my goto when I need a server to do some frontend javascript work. Love it
I second that. It's good choice for scripting which requires more feature than regular bash/zsh. It would be more nice if we have properly setup our editor (vim/nvim/zed etc), and using typescript package. Then it will become nice scripting stack. I don't use vscode, BTW.
@ you can definitely do that. I have my nvim setup for deno projects with the denopls lsp. Looking for a deno.json in the root directory to start it up
Deno is exactly what I needed when I tried to learn React for hireability, I ran into a bunch of errors and confilcts with all the extra code I had to install and run. Thanks to Deno I can go back to learning React once I'm done with my current project.
I'm just happy that Deno exist, will choose it if I can, and I hope to see it grow into one of the most influencial and dominate js runtime. I'll also use Deno in my next hobby project for sure.
Fantastic, been trying to get my team to use some of the general JS tools that they don’t want to learn. Excited that we can just use one thing to do it all. The inclusion of backwards compatibility with current nodejs makes this a reality.
I wanna use Deno portable without setting any system environment variables. And all the directories that Deno uses should be setup manually. How to do it?
Deno got me excited about JavaScript/TypeScript again for the first time in a long time. Planning several Deno based projects for both personal and work projects. Love everything you all are doing! Would actually love to connect with someone to talk about an opportunity for Deno to increase adoption. I’m a senior manager of cloud infra at my company and are working with a well known vendor I’d love to see Deno work with too. Let me know how best to connect and we can chat!
Feel the same about JS / TS excitement. I've been experimenting with Deno the last few days and it is so awesome. One thing I am really enjoying is the deno compile tool. Its perfect, fast and painless for getting quick utilities out. The std lib is also really nice
@@JacobOgle-ob4ys Same here! I love Golang for this use case normally, but would be nice to write a single executable web app that’s easily distributable AND all of the frontend and backend is written with the same language.
Kindly update the title of the video and make it "All about Deno 2 by Ryan Dahl". That would boost the views. Ryan is such a revered figure in the web development world.
I felt the same. I believe the earlier one was a lengthy launch video which included this intro as well! They might have felt the need to cut down the marketing stuff to make it a focused one.
I'm having hard time understanding what deno is, how it works under the hood, like how Nodejs uses libuv event loop etc. There aren't much videos available as compare to Nodejs.
You can use our official Docker image to deploy to any VPS: hub.docker.com/r/denoland/deno For some tutorials on how to deploy to AWS, GCP, Digital Ocean, and more: docs.deno.com/runtime/tutorials/#deploying-deno-projects
That is amazing... so I registered 3 scopes ---- em... Sorry for that. And I wish there can be a good solution in Deno to replace electron.js or Wails. (electron is too large, and Wails use golang -- though for now I'm OK with it.) Cross Desktop applications using web technoledge must be the future also.
Why does lodash even exist? It seems to be just a "pad-left" situation waiting to break all code again because someone was too lazy to write a simple function. I mean as a Deno std it's fine since we know who (and if) maintains it, but as a package it's so.. strange.
16:03 oh, `deno install` is even going to reduxe the size of the node_modules ? 16:12 of course not you silly, we just check the size to show that its all there 😅
@1337-coder "By default, Deno uses a global cache directory (DENO_DIR) for downloaded dependencies. This cache is shared across all project". Source: deno docs
Pnpm does a specific thing, hard linking from a global cache. Deno also uses a global cache don’t know if they are hardlinks with package.json. Trivial change if you wanted that. Just different args to the copy call. But you don’t know if it’s slower unless you check it
whatever you trying to do is good,but nodejs is the real outperformance server language,company is not shifting from nodejs to deno because of reliability and fast performance than deno
you can run node apps with deno, you can also remove some dependencies using included services from deno, you can as well refactor some code to use std libraries. Companies will not change right now, but eventually...
what is interesting is the difference in quality between Bun & Deno is (to me) almost a direct reflection of the quality of language chosen: Zig being this rag tag bag of lag and Rust just being...mwah, you know you struck gold when you unify all major cloud providers and can make native calls on Darwin better than Swift 😂
I tried to work with deno 2 but after a week of struggling with packages compatibility, I just switched to bun, and it feels like you are in home, bun very developer friendly and faster than deno. Deno 2 doesn’t have auto import and no VScode extension will work to solve this you will write imports manually at the end. Also if you tried to use any ORM like drizzle, prizma, sequelize …etc no ORM support jsr yet and you will be very lucky if you get npm ORMs packages work in deno 2
hey anas, what packages were you trying to use with Deno that you struggled with? Deno works with npm ORMs like Drizzle, sequelize, and Prisma. Let us know and we can try to help.
Deno is amazing, what you guys did is actually the future of the web
I've been experimenting with Deno 2 the last few days and I'm loving it so far.
Been a JS/TS dev most of my career, but have been using a ton of Go the past couple of years and must say that Deno seems to mesh those two languages and toolchains together masterfully.
great to hear that!
JS is becoming like GO
I'm in love!
The Deno TH-cam channel is going strong right now. The tutorials and information are very helpful thank you.
deno jupyter --install
thank you so much for this, gave me super powers at work.
Deno is peak server side development with js. Its simplicity is where it shines most, golang vibes . I really hope it gets the adoption it deserves
very much looking forward to utilising it
I love that Ryan is doing this.
Edit:
Things I like:
- Whatever company is handling this video, I just want to say: nice. Very nice.
- Direct, clear, and concise coding
- Minimal music/sound effects
- Ryan feels like he's talking to me
Things I dislike
- The transparent code at 5:19 is hard to follow along with
27:49 Please do some stuff with fresh!!!! I have been holding back starting a bigger project with it but if there is more content/tutorials/starter projects I would love to get down and dirty with the framework. Thank you!!!
5:19 the transparent code is a bit hard to read here.
Deno compile lol this is SO COOL
Great video! Can't wait to try out Deno 2.0
Since Ive started doing more Go in the pass year, Deno has become my replacement for bash scripts and my goto when I need a server to do some frontend javascript work. Love it
I second that. It's good choice for scripting which requires more feature than regular bash/zsh. It would be more nice if we have properly setup our editor (vim/nvim/zed etc), and using typescript package. Then it will become nice scripting stack. I don't use vscode, BTW.
@ you can definitely do that. I have my nvim setup for deno projects with the denopls lsp. Looking for a deno.json in the root directory to start it up
Great video :D
Please make a video on how Deno is different from node architecture wise. It will help me with interviews XD
i installed deno mainly for the compile feature ❤
Deno is exactly what I needed when I tried to learn React for hireability, I ran into a bunch of errors and confilcts with all the extra code I had to install and run.
Thanks to Deno I can go back to learning React once I'm done with my current project.
I'm just happy that Deno exist, will choose it if I can, and I hope to see it grow into one of the most influencial and dominate js runtime.
I'll also use Deno in my next hobby project for sure.
Fantastic, been trying to get my team to use some of the general JS tools that they don’t want to learn. Excited that we can just use one thing to do it all. The inclusion of backwards compatibility with current nodejs makes this a reality.
already upgraded my project to 2.0, the first Deno based online RPG, running since beta!!
From🇧🇩, I ❤️ Deno
Mee to.
Ryan is doing it again!
I wanna use Deno portable without setting any system environment variables. And all the directories that Deno uses should be setup manually. How to do it?
We had NODE, now have DENO, next we're gonna have DONE
2:54 RIP to the crypto farmer packages
not really. a simple adjustment can bypass this.
@@1337-coderIf there is, then it's a vulnerability and it will be fixed
@@1337-coderactually no. Not without user's permission
I've been using Bun in production for some clients, it's amazing. Deno 2 sounds like worth checking too.
Dude, we need a Deno framework with DI support. I can't switch without something like NestJS being an option.
This makes me happy.
Deno got me excited about JavaScript/TypeScript again for the first time in a long time.
Planning several Deno based projects for both personal and work projects.
Love everything you all are doing!
Would actually love to connect with someone to talk about an opportunity for Deno to increase adoption. I’m a senior manager of cloud infra at my company and are working with a well known vendor I’d love to see Deno work with too.
Let me know how best to connect and we can chat!
Feel the same about JS / TS excitement. I've been experimenting with Deno the last few days and it is so awesome. One thing I am really enjoying is the deno compile tool. Its perfect, fast and painless for getting quick utilities out. The std lib is also really nice
@@JacobOgle-ob4ys Same here! I love Golang for this use case normally, but would be nice to write a single executable web app that’s easily distributable AND all of the frontend and backend is written with the same language.
Somehow I feel like I've taken the red pill, entered the Matrix, and Ryan is Morpheus.
😂
JSR is the one reason I'd really consider Deno now that there are multiple JS runtimes
Kindly update the title of the video and make it "All about Deno 2 by Ryan Dahl". That would boost the views. Ryan is such a revered figure in the web development world.
And add His photo on Thumbnail
This
I hope this competition makes Bun even better
Im totally gonna convert my api to deno 2, thanks a lot really
Hi Ryan!
Please check compatibility for Fastify, i am unable to run using deno. Just wondering, because you say it compatible with nodejs
"because NPM is slow" 😂 Deno 2.0 ❤
Use pnpm
U don't use js for speed
Wait, didn't you previously publish this video a while ago? Why a re-upload?
I felt the same. I believe the earlier one was a lengthy launch video which included this intro as well!
They might have felt the need to cut down the marketing stuff to make it a focused one.
Why is the teleprompter so far away
I'm having hard time understanding what deno is, how it works under the hood, like how Nodejs uses libuv event loop etc.
There aren't much videos available as compare to Nodejs.
Ok, how do we deploy it tho? For example on a plesk(linux) panel server.
You can use our official Docker image to deploy to any VPS:
hub.docker.com/r/denoland/deno
For some tutorials on how to deploy to AWS, GCP, Digital Ocean, and more:
docs.deno.com/runtime/tutorials/#deploying-deno-projects
If deno 2 is so great, why isn't there deno 3?
Bro, how many times are you going to introduce Deno 2?
That is amazing... so I registered 3 scopes ---- em... Sorry for that.
And I wish there can be a good solution in Deno to replace electron.js or Wails. (electron is too large, and Wails use golang -- though for now I'm OK with it.)
Cross Desktop applications using web technoledge must be the future also.
Why does lodash even exist? It seems to be just a "pad-left" situation waiting to break all code again because someone was too lazy to write a simple function.
I mean as a Deno std it's fine since we know who (and if) maintains it, but as a package it's so.. strange.
Deno 2 ❤
16:03 oh, `deno install` is even going to reduxe the size of the node_modules ?
16:12 of course not you silly, we just check the size to show that its all there
😅
does it install node_modules so fast?
@1337-coder maybe it uses a local cache or something
@1337-coder "By default, Deno uses a global cache directory (DENO_DIR) for downloaded dependencies. This cache is shared across all project". Source: deno docs
@1337-coder my comments( in reference to a local cache) keep getting deleted or something 😕
Great job
❤
the knee scratch lol
Sadly it doesnt make me faster than pnpm.
If my pipelines arent faster, doesnt work for me.
Pnpm does a specific thing, hard linking from a global cache. Deno also uses a global cache don’t know if they are hardlinks with package.json. Trivial change if you wanted that. Just different args to the copy call. But you don’t know if it’s slower unless you check it
Please feed Fresh and get some proper Vue support... we can wait on Svelte 8 when it finally stabilizes.
when your dad only spends time with your little sib and calls you "slow" to his friends
We need tutorials :D
Yes! We launched a new tutorial series: deno.co/learn-deno
Slower than both node and bun, what's the point
Evidence?
@@jeffreyjdesir th-cam.com/video/yJmyYosyDDM/w-d-xo.html
I really really hate typescript, but Deno is awesome
whatever you trying to do is good,but nodejs is the real outperformance server language,company is not shifting from nodejs to deno because of reliability and fast performance than deno
you can run node apps with deno, you can also remove some dependencies using included services from deno, you can as well refactor some code to use std libraries. Companies will not change right now, but eventually...
he got "MARK ZUCK" vibe.
what is interesting is the difference in quality between Bun & Deno is (to me) almost a direct reflection of the quality of language chosen: Zig being this rag tag bag of lag and Rust just being...mwah, you know you struck gold when you unify all major cloud providers and can make native calls on Darwin better than Swift 😂
I tried to work with deno 2 but after a week of struggling with packages compatibility, I just switched to bun, and it feels like you are in home, bun very developer friendly and faster than deno.
Deno 2 doesn’t have auto import and no VScode extension will work to solve this you will write imports manually at the end. Also if you tried to use any ORM like drizzle, prizma, sequelize …etc no ORM support jsr yet and you will be very lucky if you get npm ORMs packages work in deno 2
bun does not cope with elephant in the room: NODE_MODULES
hey anas, what packages were you trying to use with Deno that you struggled with?
Deno works with npm ORMs like Drizzle, sequelize, and Prisma. Let us know and we can try to help.
Buzzword bullshit bingo 😂
First Js Freak 🫰✨🤗
Beat me to it 😂