Telescoping Series , Finding the Sum, Example 1

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  • Thanks to all of you who support me on Patreon. You da real mvps! $1 per month helps!! :) / patrickjmt !! Telescoping Series , Finding the Sum, Example 1. Here I find a formula for a series that is telescoping, use partial fractions to decompose the formula, look at partial sums, and take a limit to find the sum.

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  • @st333rn
    @st333rn 11 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    You do math in permanent marker. That confidence is admirable, sir.

  • @norcal6181
    @norcal6181 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this. For the life of me I could not understand this concept by reading about it in the calculus text book. You really cleared it up for me... Thank You!

  • @TheKorbakov
    @TheKorbakov 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's rare to find a video without a *thumbs down*. Amazing walk-through.

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    @unnickknotenganadie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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  • @shawnkwilson
    @shawnkwilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video actually just saved me from a total breakdown (i only cried for a teeny but lol) thank you so much this makes perfect sense now

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    thanks for recommending and congrats on doing so well! :)

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    @doodlequeen25 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a lifesaver! Better than my prof to say the least...

  • @hammurambi
    @hammurambi 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I was lost at the the last part with k, but I forgot to multiply the result with the numerator I factored out. Awesome video man, thanks for the help.

  • @mjbague507
    @mjbague507 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know im not suppose to do this but I dont even look at lecture slides anymore when reviewing for an exam at the last week, I would just go to your channel. thanks alot senpai! :)

  • @mar01843
    @mar01843 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Job! I understood everything.
    Please keep doing what you're doing

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    @historyrevisit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are an amazing teacher

  • @CristianoRonaldo123-j9j
    @CristianoRonaldo123-j9j 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! I am preparing for JEE Advanced 2022 India....and this helped me so much!

  • @JEFFWHlTE
    @JEFFWHlTE 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you keep going to n=5, n=6, etc, that -1/5 and -1/6 actually do cancel out, so you can ignore that part and just look at the 1+(1/2) part.

  • @sthembisodlamini9413
    @sthembisodlamini9413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for not doing n/n(n+1) like everyone else!

  • @streak43
    @streak43 9 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @AreebSuhail19 8 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @MrBlash93
    @MrBlash93 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx u PatrickJMT

  • @atrbulldog5955
    @atrbulldog5955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you find the sum for a problem that doesn’t have stuff in the denominator

  • @cliffordanderson6651
    @cliffordanderson6651 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped a lot, thanks!

  • @NAMskalle
    @NAMskalle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU!! So helpful!

  • @OohRod
    @OohRod 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    you write your sigmas like a math gangsta! thanks :)

  • @zawette
    @zawette 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    how do we detect a telescoping serie

    • @aliciawilliams3762
      @aliciawilliams3762 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      take the sums... go out a few until you see that terms are repeating but with opposite signs(positive 2/3 and then a few sums later negative 2/3). If you have something like that where you can cancel terms then you have telescoping series.

  • @AM-bx7eh
    @AM-bx7eh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    watched the video 10 times before i finally understood it

  • @TheLegendYH
    @TheLegendYH 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:44 why can't we put the series to each term and then say that series 1/n is divergent (harmonic).

  • @hetdave2443
    @hetdave2443 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks patrick

  • @JaimeVzq
    @JaimeVzq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg I finally understand this thank you i luv u

  • @XXgamemaster
    @XXgamemaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was great up until you wrote the formula for partial sums (4:20 - 5:05). The first two terms: 1 + 1/2 makes sense, but it's not clear how you obtained the last two terms: 1/k+1 - 1/k+2.

  • @kevinarroyo9756
    @kevinarroyo9756 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't (1/n) divergent by p-series test. Thus the entire sum is divergent?

    • @gabrielzanandrea
      @gabrielzanandrea 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      no.. If the n>0 then the series converges. n in this case is 1, which is greater than zero

    • @nathanjanus4579
      @nathanjanus4579 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gabriel Zanandrea this is a year later, but I hope you know you are wrong lol. p>1 converges. Anything else is a harmonic series

  • @kunaiprincess2627
    @kunaiprincess2627 7 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @hari8568
    @hari8568 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This diverges right?

    • @josevela9018
      @josevela9018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes because 15/4 is greater then -1to1

  • @AyJay2303
    @AyJay2303 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't get how you expanded and got the last two expressions :((

    • @nozzerjuice
      @nozzerjuice 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you get it now?

  • @YamsTube
    @YamsTube 11 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @yuukilee3632
    @yuukilee3632 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    do we always do the first 4 terms?

    • @morenorristhannorris
      @morenorristhannorris 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you just do as many terms as it takes to see a pattern. Sometimes it takes more, sometimes it takes less. In this case, he could've technically seen the pattern after only three terms, and in others you might not find a pattern, so you record a few more to see what happens.

  • @OliverElleman
    @OliverElleman 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @MrMoeqt
    @MrMoeqt 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahhh I see, thanks.

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    @s.y.t.h3924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    @philadelphiaexperiment2195 7 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @TheQuinvo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @Wackyman2010 9 ปีที่แล้ว +219

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      we all do...

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      @SARCASMOOO 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

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    @brixmonton3577 8 ปีที่แล้ว +115

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  • @GotGuitars
    @GotGuitars 8 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    i left the WebAssign guy for you.

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i am not sure what that means :)

    • @GotGuitars
      @GotGuitars 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      WebAssign is an online math program that profs use to assign hw and stuff. it has "help videos" done by a guy I've named Jerry but I've left him to subscribe to your channel :)

    • @NicksDomain101
      @NicksDomain101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Webassign sucks

    • @miguelvega8557
      @miguelvega8557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jerry is sobbing rn in the darkness: "Hello darkness my old friend"

    • @aliciawilliams3762
      @aliciawilliams3762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickjmt I could not even find a video for the first problem involving this process in Webassign. It is mentioned in the text but the terms that needed to be cancelled showed up more quickly ... I had no idea that we should continue taking sums...
      (they just did an interface update, summer 2019 btw)
      Professor did not even cover telescoping series examples in class although it was included in online hw. We have only gone over the eight(8) different tests.
      I loove this video. Thank you for the step by step. I can start my hw now.

  • @Volas32
    @Volas32 10 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Man you are a legend. We have learned so many things from you. Whenever i get stuck while solving my notes, i check your channel and you already have the videos of those topics being explained briefly. Great job (Y)

  • @morenorristhannorris
    @morenorristhannorris 8 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    For those asking about the 1/k+1 thing: that's correct. He found that the partial sum when n=4 (because he used the first four terms) was [1 + 1/2 - 1/5 - 1/6]. Since this is the sum when n = k = 4, the 1/5 is rewritten as 1/k+1. Think about if he just did the first three terms, so that n = k = 3. You'd be left with [1 + 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/5]. The 1/4 is now 1/k+1 and the 1/5 is 1/k+2.
    Hope I helped.

    • @saramoussakone5190
      @saramoussakone5190 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yooo thanks fro clarifying that !

    • @dmitrov6464
      @dmitrov6464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1/5,1/6 terms were unnecessary as they were going to be 0 anyway..

    • @karenportillo-chavarria2855
      @karenportillo-chavarria2855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      may your crops grow and your skin shine

    • @jmitzenmacher5
      @jmitzenmacher5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sometimes I wonder why my my math teacher didn’t explain it like this. He just said to write out some terms towards the end and beginning of the series and just figure out what cancels. This is much quicker. And thanks for the explanation of the k+1 thing!

    • @wirelessmoke
      @wirelessmoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      im from 2021 and i want to thank you for clarifying this part

  • @MonroeSim
    @MonroeSim 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    no clue where the K+1 and K+2 comes from, iv rewinded it like 10 times...

    • @cameronaminian9442
      @cameronaminian9442 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It's cause he ended n=4 and had 1 + (1/2) -(1/5) - (1/6) when he ended at n=4. the (1/5) term is (1/n+1) and the (1/6) term is 1/(n+2)

    • @MonroeSim
      @MonroeSim 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cameron Aminian thanks man, yea i finally got it after practicing the problem a few more times lol

    • @zhengren3260
      @zhengren3260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cameronaminian9442 hi..can i know at least what n term we must write?He ended at n=4..if i ended n=3 can?

  • @ComposingGloves
    @ComposingGloves 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Man, you a bold man for using a sharpie! I would need so much paper if I did my homework in pen. XD

    • @shawnruby7011
      @shawnruby7011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's doing an example problem

    • @1light4love
      @1light4love 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol I still do.....
      and should be putting stock in white out now that we're in series. 😂

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    @sahildesai4484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this video will be saving people who didnt pay attention in class even after 10 years

  • @robinmoussa9181
    @robinmoussa9181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know I'm about a decade late, but this video was a lifesaver! I'm working on telescoping sums for my discrete mathematics course, and I didn't get how to break apart the denominator until this video. Genuinely thank you so much for making this content public!

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    @danymanchster1759 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

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  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @mlleJMHRG very happy to help :)

  • @ryanruark2693
    @ryanruark2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why. Why. Why do I need to do any of this absurdity to learn how to program a computer. Math instruction in this country is a fucking farce.

  • @johntalluto1058
    @johntalluto1058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So it is not clear on EXACTLY how you got the last two terms of the sequence 1 over k+1 and 1over K +2

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are welcome :)

  • @s.y.t.h3924
    @s.y.t.h3924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This reaffirms my hatred for calculus

  • @monkeytrollhunter
    @monkeytrollhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, 3 years ago, when I took Calculus 2, I used this video to study telescoping series. 3 years later, in an upper division math class, in order to refresh my memory for hw, I am using this video again. Thank you patrickJMT !!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ( you are welcome ) x 100 :)

  • @mnabbott2015
    @mnabbott2015 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cal 2 final in 13 minutes and I have just learned something very important. Thank you sir!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @joeratti ha, sweet!

  • @goldenraspberries713
    @goldenraspberries713 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can't we take the limit right away? (I know taking it will yield the wrong answer, but I don't understand why.)

  • @afterugirl
    @afterugirl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i totally wouldve just left 3/2 as my answer conpletely forgetting the 5/2. This guy's either a beast or does multiple takes till perfection hahaha

  • @linabear55
    @linabear55 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know how many times I can say thank you. You've gotten me through five math classes and working on two more, at both high school and university levels. My lifesaver!

  • @DanikonLUK
    @DanikonLUK 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    k? wtf man u know it's always infinity.

  • @yagrooza
    @yagrooza 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    isnt the series divergent since the sum of [1/n + 1/(n+2)] is infinite? Also, the lim you took that gave you 3/2 proves it is divergent since it would equal 0 if it was possible for it to converge.

  • @xxxx783
    @xxxx783 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finallyyyyy a sum that doesnt have x/n - (y/n+1) !!!! been all over the internet trying to find examples thank you!!

  • @Nicolea9000
    @Nicolea9000 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    nth div test, goemetric, p series, alternating, integral, and ratio/root test are all under my control; but telescoping and comparison tests bother me to no end! Telescoping is a pain in the ass for obvious reasons, but the thing that gets me with comparison test is choosing the right Bn to compare your An to : (

  • @emilyeyrich6489
    @emilyeyrich6489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you be my college calc prof??

  • @LunaticRicky014
    @LunaticRicky014 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are life savers man. Keep doing what you're doing! You're the best!

  • @Melvanoate
    @Melvanoate 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Missed a 50 minute class. Made up for it in 15 minute in the comfort of my room. Keep up the good work man.

  • @gabrielzanandrea
    @gabrielzanandrea 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe the (1/k+1) is incorrect. The n in that case is 3, and 3 +1 = 4, not 5. With that being sad, i believe the pattern is only the (1/k+2). Correct me if Im wrong

    • @moisejean8711
      @moisejean8711 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You wrong. It is not about the denominator it is about the pattern. We cannot have 1/k+2 without having 1/k+1 first
      This is where you get it wrong. And by the way if the pattern was [1/n - 1/n+3] you should continue until 1/k+3

  • @sigurfeanaro3356
    @sigurfeanaro3356 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sum or limit is actually 1 + 1/2 = 3/2, because for any value of 'n' there is nothing left or the rest equals 0. For instance, n = 5 -> 1/5 - 1/5+2 = 1/5 - 1/7 ; n = 6 -> 1/6 - 1/8 ; n = 7 -> 1/7 - 1/9... There are all possible values for (1/n) and its opposite - (1/n), then the rest is 0.

  • @linuskarlsson4823
    @linuskarlsson4823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks alot really helpfull

  • @kalef1234
    @kalef1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    so use decomposition to rewrite, take partial sum, writing out the terms for a bit to see a pattern, then write generic involving k, then take limit of series from n to k of the generic thing we found from writing out terms. that's it (plus multiplying by coefficient we took out earlier) Hope I got it! And this was just to evaluate the series...is that the same as finding the sum?

  • @1000-flowers
    @1000-flowers ปีที่แล้ว

    So bad he can’t show the straight problem .. all back and forth ..

  • @mbusomabuza7273
    @mbusomabuza7273 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    will it be possible to pass exams with flying colors by simply relying on your videos, because i understand you best

  • @tobsmonster2
    @tobsmonster2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, I'm very sleepy and not wearing glasses, but I honestly thought the title was "Telescoping Series (like astronomical telescope), Finding the Sun".

  • @cooljazz555
    @cooljazz555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this refresher, thank you so much man

  • @lenkahoskova1970
    @lenkahoskova1970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I've been trying to figure out how to do this on my own since it's going to be on my exam but we didn't actually cover it in the classes (two teachers, 1 has lectures, the other one makes exams...makes sense). I felt so dumb for not understanding it (the numbers at the end just seemed random, I didn't realize it's because the rest cancels itself out) and I couldn't find it anywhere. Now I'm actually kind of angry that it's soooo easy and I was stuck on it for hours :D You're a lifesaver. Well, hopefully. I haven't taken the exam yet :D

  • @junioralamdarez2314
    @junioralamdarez2314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This method is not only far longer, but it tends to 0, not 15/4
    Denominator tends to infinity while numerator is at 5. Therefore, the function gets infinitesimal closer to 0

  • @nvns9172
    @nvns9172 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got 5/[(n^2)-1] as my equation starting from n=2 to infinity which works, can someone explain how i'd find the first term since I need it to find the sum?

  • @labibsharrar9673
    @labibsharrar9673 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don
    t understand something. Why did you use 1/(k+1)? Wasn't there any other way?

    • @instaminox
      @instaminox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i am asking the same question ...

  • @MrBrandon2073
    @MrBrandon2073 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So on example A, when doing the Sum with the sum to a K constant, why wouldnt the other terms work the same way? Such as the 1 being converted to n-3....since we stopped at n=4. and the 1/2 turn into 1/(n-2)?

  • @B_Ry-jh
    @B_Ry-jh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks. I was searching for this kind of video😊

  • @zahraakbari3083
    @zahraakbari3083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot

  • @GTAfan8850
    @GTAfan8850 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    shouldn't it be 1/k+2 at 4:51?

    • @hanafarhana136
      @hanafarhana136 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shawn Isi *wonders the same thing too

  • @arstgkneio
    @arstgkneio 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    with all of the telescopic problems i've worked, the k's never play a part because they always get canceled out when you take the limit.

  • @RevK20
    @RevK20 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir for this imformative video its made sum easier for me

  • @oluwafemiajibona
    @oluwafemiajibona 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Just Excellent. Thank you Patrick

  • @patrickmayer9218
    @patrickmayer9218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:36 is the important part:
    Once you do the first couple of indexes, you find the pattern as far as which terms cancel out.

  • @theamirali10sh
    @theamirali10sh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 4:48, im confused about why -1/5 and -1/6 stay. Wouldnt they simply be cancelled out when we reach n=5 and=6 ?

    • @lydiapark12
      @lydiapark12 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Amir Haghi they do go away, but he was using those terms to find the nth term

    • @morenorristhannorris
      @morenorristhannorris 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did the sum from 1 to k, and decided to stop at the 4th term, making k = 4. If you plug a 4 into that equation, you get [1 +1/2 - 1/5 - 1/6], which is the answer that he got. If you added the first 10 terms, you could just plug a 10 into that equation for k, and that would be the answer. So yes, they cancel after you go past k, but he was finding the sum at k.

    • @extraboommain534
      @extraboommain534 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He did say that it will cancel out as k goes to infinity because it will have k go to 0

  • @AuiKenHoong
    @AuiKenHoong 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    correct me if i'm wrong , the reason -1/5 = -1/(k+1) is because you expand till n=4 ? thanks

  • @rayano342
    @rayano342 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    patrick, what do we do if only 1 term is cancelling or nothing is cancelling when you do the sum

  • @hanafarhana136
    @hanafarhana136 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very complete explaination,thanks to u 🖒..now i understand the concept 😁

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    @nikig.5363 9 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @GojoSenpai25 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining this so well, my professor didn't make sense

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    @dennytian 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you get a new camera? The video quality is a lot nicer :)

  • @ritoruchou
    @ritoruchou 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize this comment is pretty old but for the people out there who may be confused too, the k is usually denoted as n in a textbook so instead you may see n+1 and n+2. (-1/5) becomes (-1/k+1) because the last term he solved for was the 4th term. How does this term number (4 or n, or in this case k) become 5? By adding 1 to it. Hence the denominator becoming k+1 or n+1. Same for the next one. (-1/6) must become a generic expression including n. n is 4 so again how does it become 6? by adding 2

  • @toastersman217
    @toastersman217 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    My teacher wrote a similar thing but with " (n+a)(n-b)". How I my suppose to prove that it converge? I mean, I can do a example like in this video, but it's a example. That doesn't prove that it works for every "a" and "b" if "a" and "b" are some integers.