Do not make this stupid mistake - Intel Core i9-13900K build with Asus ROG Strix Z790-A
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- I made a stupid mistake while building a new Intel 13th Gen PC. Or at least while trying to do so.
Asus had kindly sent me the ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4
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And Intel sent the Intel Core i9-13900K. So I was planning on stripping my machine down and rebuilding it with these new parts. Plus a few NVMe SSDs and 64GB of Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 ram. Then I hit a snag.
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This is a bit of a stupid oversight on my part. Not an issue for me (apart from extra expense) but it's worth keeping in mind that even the newest Z790 motherboards come with the option of DDR4 or DDR5 RAM compatibility. It is one or the other. You cannot use both. So take care when buying.
There are still arguments for using DDR4. It's cheaper and there are less issues with XMP. In other words it's more stable but it can also have lower timings compared with DDR5. So if you're looking to save money by re-using DDR4 RAM from your current build then buying this sort of motherboard then that's a good plan. but for me it's just going to delay content 😭😭😭
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Hi! sorry to disturb you but can i ask whether it's a good idea to pair 13700K with 240mm aio on top mount or should i go 360mm aio on the front mount??? cause my case is not that big and i dont know which one i should buy.
Oh my god I unscrewed my cpu latch thing to replace with the lga1700 bracket for the pressure and I was stupid and let the back plate fall off. This is the first video, image, or website including gigabytes own and this was the first video that showed me which way round it is on the back of the mobo so thank you! 😅 saved my ass today. Liked and subscribed for that reason, and the video itself is good too
Means can i pair intel i9 13900k with this mobo?
Ddr4 version?
I don't want any type of issue in future
Is this mobo future proof mean i want to pair it with i8 13900k
Am i going to face any issue?
@TheProvokedPrawn
It says on the box, D4.
It meant the board is DDR4
Why are people in the comment section being exceptionally rude? He made a simple mistake, don’t act like you haven’t either throughout the entirety of your lifetime, lol
And the hilarity is I only posted the video so others wouldn't do the same 🤣
CAUSE PEOPLE ARE PRETTY STRIX 😅😂😂😂
Like strict people be bitches some times y’feelme?
They also make a Z790-A that takes DDR5 RAM (4x DIMM, Max 128gb, DDR5 Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory). Thank god I found this out before ordering or I would be in the exact same boat as you!
What’s the difference?
I was confused because mine absolutely takes DDR5
This can also be avoided by sticking strictly to CPUs, RAM sticks and SSDs listed on the compatibility lists on the motherboard manufacturer's website. I hate terribly when something like this happens to me so I never stray from those lists.
i checked on asus rog z790 E gaming list and sk hynix p41 ssd m.2 is not on the list. will they still be compatible ? idk where to find answer to this i looked thru google already
@@princekittipon6510 the compatibility of a SSD is not as problematic as that of RAM sticks. In theory, any SSD should work on any motherboard (if the form factor fits physically). Not listed there doesn't mean that it doesn't work it means that Asus hasn't test it yet.
Like those lists contain anything that is still available a year after the list was made...
@@jcvjcvjcvjcv Actually they do. Wasn't willing to spend an arm and a leg for the E of the model, but am getting the H and managed to find the compatible memory and parts easily.
Can't wait to get started building my first pc. I ended up needing to buy a new case after realising the rtx4090 was going to be too big. Still struggling to get a 4090 anywhere though. I was even sat at 2pm on release day pondering too much on which one, wanting to see reviews first. And they all sold out in minutes 😔
Damn. Sorry to hear it. I too have been on the hunt.
@@TheProvokedPrawn PCcasegear has plenty 4090's
@@lucid9099 for more than double the MSRP
What’s the hurry , just stay at the back of the flock and wait 🐑.
As an owner of a 4090 zotac amp extreme, would highly recommend, they look.the best of all the 4090 series cards imo, and they also have the longest warranty at 5 years. Been running mine hard for 2 weeks, and it never goes above 55 C°.
The name of the board is completely "ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4". The "D4" = ddr4 ;)
It can be various, it can be different - BUT IT CANNOT BE "various different"
Great video, thank you! We all make mistakes in our builds ( I used to work as a line tech for a company that built servers). This happens to everyone at some point, especially when working fine print and new parts!
That sucks! But thank you for giving us the shots of the CPU latch down AND the taking off of the plastic on the glass. Those things are so oddly satisfying.
that comment you made near the end about the timings on ddr4 being much lower than on ddr5 means pretty much nothing, ddr5 has two channels per dimm and also has the power delivery built onto the ram itself whereas on ddr4 you can only get one channel per dimm and the power delivery is on the motherboard, and the bandwidth on ddr5 heavily outbalances the tighter timings on ddr4, especially when youre running xmp/docp on both as they are both going to be extremely loose (thanks to jedec subtimings, primaries dont matter much for performance).
Also CAS is based on clock cycles. So 6000mhz ddr5 compared to 3000mhz ddr4, even if your CAS timing were double the figures on DDR5 it would have the same access time as DDR4.
@@TransAmDan28 yeah thing is cas, trcd(rd/wr), trp and tras do basically nothing for performance anyway, the subtimings do signifigantly more especially trrds/trrdl and tfaw, thats why theres no point in getting a, for example 3600 cl14 kit over a 3600 cl18 kit if your just gonna run xmp. if youre gonna oc then thats an entirely different story haha
The first mistake is paying BIG money for this z790 motherboard, when a z690 board for $190 USD works just as well.
U get extra lanes and more bandwidth. But Ur right a z690 will do just fine, I always get the last tier board, such as z390 and hopefully z790.
@@bobdol69 Higher speeds? Higher than 6400 MHz? Can you elaborate?
"this product isn't useful to me therefore it cannot be useful for anyone else either"
@@parsa475 "Buying a motherboard for $500 USD is foolish when a $200 motherboard *works* *just* *fine* "
Parsa,
In America no savvy PC builder would *waste* *500* *dollars* on a motherboard. It makes more sense to spend that money on a faster video card, or better LCD monitor.
@@bobdol69 Who says that Z690 Pro motherboard from MSI is unstable with 6400 MHz ddr5?
Z790 is too expensive, and not necessary.
The moment you said "Why i am an idiot" i read the motherboards name through the plastic... WIFI D4 ohhh noooo
Just watching this now and bought this MB and made sure they gave me the right board
One of the best features of the new gen intel chips is that they’re compatible with DDR4. DDR5 is still extremely expensive and arguably will be under-utilized by the average person. I doubt this is a mistake someone will casually make 😂😂
true, i think the fact that this is a D4 mobo is one of its key selling points. D5 is extremely expensive. also, some uses cases barely even benefit from D5 that its not worth paying for. its beyond expensive
its not priced bad
You are making me nervous now. Ordered the motherboard, together with a 13700k earlier today. Though on the retailer website it clearly states DDR5. I just checked the ASUS site and it says DDR4. Well, contacted the retailer to check if it indeed is the D4 they are selling, or if it is the DDR5 one. Hoping for the latter. Thanks for the heads up! Possibly prevented quite the headache!
The D4 is not reference to Ram, never has and never will be. Ram is always specified in the specs clearly as DDR then the number. D4 refers to part of the Model ID in the name. No way to make that mistake at all.
Hey, don't feel bad The Provoked Prawn - I bought a motherboard that didn't work for the spare CPU I had, even though it fit perfectly into the socket. I was confused as to why it turned on but didn't go through any kind of power cycle until I went to a dedicated PC building shop and he outright said I had the wrong motherboard. Thankfully the guy in charge had a spare that was correct and I paid for the extra components and assembly. I later managed to get £50 from selling the incorrect motherboard second-hand.
oof
I so hope that not many other people are making this mistake. Come on human race I’m counting on you here!
Oh well, 65k followers "tech youtuber", won't spend 2 minutes to read tech specs before shelling out £350 for a mid-range motherboard. Then he just scratching head and swaps it to a £800 top shelf one. Probably the white colour was all the concept. Hillarious...
@@deuceislorddude he literally got sent the board y'all are acting like immature babies it's not that fuckin serious
@@900ug doctors can help with your minority complex issues matey
PC Part Picker helps make sure there are no compatability or bottleneck issues.
"There are still arguments for using DDR4. It's cheaper and there are less issues with XMP. In other words it's more stable but it can also have lower timings compared with DDR5"
Correction: it has lower bandwith but lower timings. Said that way makes it look like lower latency is a bad thing, where the opposite is true.
well....snice it's e waste now, you can just dump it at my house and ill dispose of this non-useable system no cost to you my friend. Glad i'm here
🤣
@@TheProvokedPrawn XD it was worth a shot :)
wow, can you imagine being so rich, you can buy Ram you dont need, nor cannot use, must be amazing :)
Or alternatively, you work hard and get sent things to use in content and you reuse them with other parts to try to be efficient but make mistakes... I'm not rich.
Yep...did this 2 weeks ago; not realizing it was still possible a z790 could still use DDR4. I was to focused on the price, thinking "this is a great deal!" Ha
Broooooo I was literally in the process of making this mistake and found this video on my suggested. Just ordered some ddr5 ram to go with the upgrade to gen 13 you da best
Nice
Ram Timings are actually rated as cycles not miliseconds so ram that is at 6000mhz and a cas latency of 40 is exactly as fast as a 3000mhz cas latency of 20. the term latency can be misleading as most people the its measured as a unit of time and dont realize its how many cycles.
the aorus master 690 for $299 looks like the absolute best choice right now cause it was 469. strong vrm, usb flasheable, 10gb lan, amazing ess sabre audio.
and highest RMA % due to it being a Gigabyte...
@@YouOnlyLiveOnce... Can confirm with the z390 version of that board. I am on my third one
gotten a MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI for 285.00 but got it used like new
Well, I assume it’s the reputation you’re going off of rather then knowing that particular Aorus master has a high RMA %. I just got the board super cheap so hopefully it’s not bad
@@MRrealmadridRaul 9 years as pc technician/sales manager - gigabyte has the highest RMA in general
I DID THE SAME THING🤣. I ordered a 13900k with the asus z790 tuf D4 instead of the Asus z790 tuf regular DDR5. Caught it when it was in shipping and was able to start a return.
I wonder what the stupid mistake to smart mistake ratio is during our lifetime. 🙂
i built pc's in the 90's but at 53 i havent 'lost an ioa of that smarts - ive ordered products ... maybe i should do a video finally glad i've known this for 36 yrs
You're so clever.
I wonder why they decided to use ddr4 on this one. It seems to me this MB was absolutely perfect IF it had DDR5. The aesthetic is brilliant and the one I wanted to buy but won't cause of the ram. I wish they made a D5 version of this exact model. Does anyone know if they'll do it anytime soon?
It only has this one the "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E LGA 1700 " which is also white and with ddr5 supported but it's just not that good looking like this one the "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A" I am also wondering why they couldn't make this one as a ddr5 model.
Because DDR5 is not relevant enough to warrant a complete redesign yet, neither is PCIe 4.0. Sure it's new but hardly exciting, the speeds are on level with DDR4 and upcoming higher end speeds are not fast enough over 4 to warrant upgrading to it. Ram jumps in 2 or even 3 stages is normal, if you're already sporting DDR4 then you won't be impressed till at least DDR6 maybe 7. It's just not that important unless you are crunching large amounts of data like the Seti project and such. Games no need for it yet.
@@animalyze7120 I understand your point but at the same time it seems very strange that at this point in time, with the new technological advancements and PCI 5.0 they won't have a version of this board with D5. If one wants to build a new machine now with i13 should be just logical one embraces the new technology rather than the older. And a person can game and crunch data with the same machine, or do rendering like in my case and would benefit of the newest technology (also because one can change the D5 dimms later on and get more performing blocks in a few years perhaps, as opposed to D4 that probably won't advance much in speed/latency in the coming years).
Almost all z690 and z790 boards are available in ddr4 and ddr5 variants. It's the first and most important thing to check... Any minimal advantage that ddr5 has in terms of speed is not worth the huge price difference. It's just a temporary situation though.
@@lukastemberger not this one though, which is a shame. I am waiting for the more expensive versions but this mb was perfect if it was d5 as i want to start with the new technology in my workstation
Nothing new here, Strix Z690-a is also DDR4.
I guess when you get stuff for free, you don't have to bother with things like research or using pcpartpicker :)
Well yes. I am aware that the Z690 boards might have had DDR4 but I figured the newer generation wouldn't. I also had no say in what I was sent and they didn't mention it was DDR4. 🤣 So yes. I should have checked and this is why I made the video because not everyone will be as aware or as savvy as you. 👍😎
iirc I saw a version of strix Z690-A with DDR5, which is mostly circulating in the Chinese market, also it can be found on the website of Asus.
@@TheProvokedPrawn I hadn't built a PC in 10 years, so I been binge learning/catching up in the last 6-8 weeks, which is how I ended up subscribing to your channel. My previous comment was written with humor in mind, nothing malicious btw :)
@@TheProvokedPrawn never "figure" when it comes to any computer parts compatibility or what is supported. always go with tech spec facts and datasheets.
You are so confused, you even wrote 590 in the title. Take a break from these jobs.
I thought he really made a mistake installing a 13900k to a z590 board based on the title😂
Yeah that was just a numpty moment. 🤣 Twice.
Aint you a team spirit. Tells him to quit. Your the friend No one needs...
Agreed, you are a minority telling him what to do. It's fine to give him advice on a polite manner, but forcing decisions is something for your own life and not that of others.
You dont even got videos shouldnt be talking about other peoples videos
I ALMOST made the exact same mistake ,,, I ordered a Asus ROG Strix Z790-A MB which I assumed was a DDR5 MB ... only moments after placing the online order did I notice the title of the MB said "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A D4" and, upon checking further read that somehow meant it's a DDR4 Asus ROG Strix Z790-A & not A DDR5 "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi" MB ...I canceled the D4 order pronto - Bart
The shop [it's actually a chain of excellent shops -- Memory Express in Canada] where I bought my Z790 mobo, installed the DDR5 RAM and updated the BIOS for me...a free service. But I'm sure I'll make other mistakes in my build...
Happens to the best of us, more often than I care to admit lol
😂
This is because you use Z790-A. The Z790-F takes DDR5 so that's a very easy switch!
Excellent stuff. How did you obtain a raptor lake cpu? Thought the release date was 20th October.
I'm kind of a big deal. Not really, I got one from my day job and for videos on machine builds
@@TheProvokedPrawn I was gonna say, with only 56k subs, who did you kill, rob or blow for it lol
It is clearly marked, since it is addition "D4" at the end for DDR4.
Sadly they didnt release Rog Strix Gaming A with DDR5 as Z790 only Z690 is available with DDR5.
That isn't "clear"
To be clear, they have since released a DDR5 Z970-A, for those troubleshooting like me and confused since it clearly indicates on my box DDR5
look at the bright side, now you can buy the Gskill Trident 32GB 4000mhz (F4-4000C14D-32GTZR) with Cas Latency of only 14 and super tight timings that actually beats in performance 99% of the entirety of all ddr5 lower than 7800mhz.
It's funny. I made the same mistake today before I saw this video. DDR4 has been around so long now that I usually don't have to think about this.
Dude, same. Was not Aware of d4 and d5 boards. Microcenter guy blew my mind and I was like, wait, then why are they boasting d4 and d5 compatible when board manufacture are only doing what ryzen is up to. And he goes, "I know right!" Lol. Well, so I got ddr5 now...
Now you will run into the bigger issue, number of pcie lanes. Im almost certain if you populate all four m.2 drives, your video card is cut down from 16x to 8x. The 13900k only has twenty (20) pcie lanes. If you are running viedo at 16x, that only leaves 4 for your m.2. and each of those need 4. For more lanes you can go to threadripper, intel extreme editions, or server chips (xeon).
you also have another 20 pcie 4.0 and 8 3.0 lanes on the chipset which will be more than enough, even if all m.2 slots are populated.
@@s1n1573r- Agreed. I was referring to full speed lanes. All lanes through the chipset are slowed.
True if we're talking about some heavy read write operations but for gaming and such the difference will not be noticeable we're talking an added latency of like
@@s1n1573r- i guess i just miss the days of extreme edition that had 36 vs 20.
@@kyledurning Intel have apparently got some hedt chips upcoming so you may see them again in the not too distant future :)
Here is a Stupid Mistake that I made with the ASUS TUF Gaming Plus WIFI D4 Z690 board and an i5-13600K. The problem that the Z690's BIOS don't work with the 13th Gen Intel processors out of the box. There is No Flash button on the motherboard so you can't update the board. I had to buy a new Pentium Processor that works with LGA 1700 so I can update the board. Fortunately, I found one for under $50. Just because they have the socket doesn't mean that the board and CPU are compatible out of the box.
Thank you for the review. I'm about to buy the z690 version today. I would of automatically assumed that the z790 would of been ddr5, so its an easy mistake to make, especially if its someone like you already on ddr5.
Well we all know what Assumption is the Mother of right? All Fuch-ups.
Z790-E uses ddr5 but not -A?
*would've
I don't understand why there is so much hate with this. Obviously it was a silly mistake, as mentioned in the title. This is a very valid issue to make a video for. Assumptions can hit anyone of us, and to shine a light on this issue here will educate people on things to watch for. I say this is a great video to make.
Thanks, glad someone understood what I was trying to do. Wasn't expecting so much negativity but such is life on the internet.
@@TheProvokedPrawn In my opinion, the negativity is so counter-intuitive. With negativity people are less likely to create educational videos again. Honestly, for the past 15 years I've worked in the computer build/repair field, and I've seen so many people caught out by assumptions like this.
Recently I was caught out with a wireless mouse. The marketing all shows that it's got a USB-A charging wire but the mouse itself is type C. The wireless dongle was mentioned but not it's connector. I assumed it would be as the wire, and it would be a type A. It wasn't. It was a type C, and my computer doesn't have a type C port on it. I had to spend another £10 buying a type A to C adapter to get my wireless mouse wireless.
Silly mistakes from assumptions hit us all at one point. It's great when someone can help us avoid them. Again, I say thank you and bravo for making it.
I found out I made the same mistake as you did. After I bought it 🤣😂
That's a crazy looking motherboard
You shouldn't pull the protective film off your case while the pc is turned on. Static can build up and kill the components. It's rare but possible.
very useful info
lol
There actually are videos where people have done this lol.
They now sell a ddr5 capable version up to 128 ram
I had it the other way around. I upgraded from an AMD Ryzen 9 to an Intel i9 13900KF. I had 64Gb of DDR4 and the new motherboard only accepted DDR. Anyways, I had to order 64Gb of DDR5 after all. Lesson learned 😂
That's because Asus put D4 which stands for DDR4. D5 is DDR5
As soon as I saw the D4 on the box I knew.
I almost had the same problem when buying my new rig.
I think using D4 to say it’s a DDR4 board is silly and as you found out easy mistake to make.
Luckily for me I read the spec sheets on boards.
It’s a silly naming system and should not carry the z790 or z690 naming for both ddr4 and ddr5.
Yup, daft naming
Buying 4 sticks of memory... killing your memory OC.
Video editing chews up a lot of memory but thanks
Respectfully, this video could have been 2-3 minutes max...
respectfully, it was meant to be a video for those who care about my channel. I didn't expect it to reach a wider audience. And it's my content so I can do what I want. SHRUG.
@Sweener Someone gets it.
DDR4 is now a dead RAM generation, so why would they even make a DDR4 mobo with a 13th gen Intel CPU?
If you can afford $600+ for the mobo and CPU, surely spending an extra 200 on DDR5 is not a deal breaker.
Thanks now I know why mine isn’t lining up 😢
That's a bit sad they only sent you a DDR4 MB.
I specifically bought this motherboard with ddr4 ram in mind. I've got 64 gigs of ddr4 on my old motherboard and I didn't want to buy new ram as well as CPU and motherboard. Don't believe fps in games will be that significantly higher. Might be stupid idk. My CPU was an i7 7700k and needed an upgrade since it highly bottlenecks my gpu.
Sensible money saving plan tbh
There is 2 very similar looking Strix Z790-A Gaming Wi-Fi, D4 is for DDR4, and without "D4" in the name is for DDR5. It's so confusing. And extremely annoying when u trying to google the DDR5 version, cuz most search results will be for D4. Asus definitely should do something with their motherboards naming...
Apparently with this iteration there's less focus for DDR5 from them as they think people won't want to spend mucho money on RAM but also DDR5 is still a bit unreliable compared with DDR4. Maybe that'll change next time.
@@TheProvokedPrawn Well, I'm here cuz i've search for any info about Z790-A DDR5 version. Gonna buy it next week or even tomorrow and DDR5 kit (Trident Z5 RGB 64Gb 6000Mhz CL30 F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5RK)
Haha I double checked the motherboard purchase like 3 times to make sure I was actually buying the DDR5 version
My biggest problem was I bought a 13th gen but the motherboard outta the box only supported 12th gen and needed a bios. Problem was I didn’t have a 12th gen anywhere and the MB did not have flash bios on it… so I had to go out and buy a cheap 12th gen, install it, update the bios and then pop it out and put the 13th in. Thankfully I got it off Amazon for 100$ and I was able to return it that same day for my money back.
It drives me crazy I haven't been able to find the pricing for this specific board anywhere. In USD that is.
i think msrp is 389.99 usd. its on sale on amazon for must over 300 now
Did anyone else have an issue with fitting your gpu into this board ?
Great content, I am currently in the process of building a new PC. I bought an Asus ROG Strix Z690 DDR4 (on a good price), and I am planning to buy an intel 13900k with a DDR4 Corsair Vengeance, which I will be available in a couple of days. I hope that there will be no issue with the LGA1700 I currently have, since the processor is 13Gen and my motherboard 12Gen. Intel said its compatible, but we will see.
What you mean we will see? Of course it will work, just update bios
@@gex581990 😑
@@gex581990Thanks, I really appreciate the advice. I bought the board a month before knowing that 13900k were released. I'd better buy a 12900k instead and save some money.
@@kp-td1ky don’t trust him 🤦♀️. The mobos are good enough. We have 2 8 pins to pull 600w. Idk what the hell he’s waffling about
@@gex581990 here we go again with the waffling
you made me double check what mobo I just bought 😂
I didn't realize some Z790 MoBo's ONLY work with DDR4. I thought Z790's from Intel MoBo's work with both DDR4 and DDR5.
Some are DDR4 only, some are DDR5 only. You have to watch out.
Lol...I was conflicted with the same issue, I was about to have the ddr5, Thanks GOD. I did find out just before get them
I bought Gigabyte Aours Z790 for DD5 prices dropped to use with my 12900k. Gskill ddr 6400 would not work at xmp profile, tired it in a z690 msi meg unify, latest bios and xmp worked. By the time the bios for all z790 are perfected 14th gen will be out.
That duel channel or quad channel?
Wow as a system builder I assumed also the NEW Z790 would only be DDR5 but yes on the site Asus there it is ddr4. WOW!!! Now to goto the shops and get a fire extinguisher for the rtx4090 cable i am using
The Corsair 12vhpwr adapter seems like a good solution
Another great vid Mr. Prawn. Keep up the great work. If I may ask, what is the case you show at 6:36 in this video. Thanks for all you do.
It's the Corsair 5000T but with their liquid cooling kit th-cam.com/video/Z9MqMHmejmg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you.
What motherboard do people recommend to pair with the i9 13900K? The confusing part is they are many z790 motherboards and the prices are all over the map. Any advice would truly be appreciated. I am also looking for DDR5 compatibility
Same question :)
@@pmarciano1717 If you make a decision from the motherboard please PM me and let me know.
A great Z790 motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-Z790-GAMING-X-AX Motherboard. Its priced very well, looks great and will give you support for DDR5, 2.5gig network port, wifi and Bluetooth. It goes for around $300.
Most of the pricier boards just have more m2 slots, 10gig network port, and have rgb. You don't need a $1k motherboard. But yeah, it all depends on what you need and you're doing.
@@jackgreen5960 i boght the z790- a Gaming ddr5
I screwed up the same way with the Asus z790m D4 it only takes DDR4. No big deal the DDR5 was $100 more.
im actually surprised they made ddr4 Z790s.
Its stupid to use the 13900K in a new build.
Whooo... i've just picked up a Z790-F with a 13th Gen CPU. This motherboard looks very handsome. I'm beginning to wish I'd gone for the glass panel now but I've always thought them a bit "boy racer-ish".
Will I be okay with a Z690 with a 13600k?
@@cesarrobledo2583 Should be golden. Note: Z790-F is the DDR5-compatible board.
@@lucasdigital i was thinking about getting that one, but it is pricey, what ram did u get for it?
@@Tatusiek_1 It's running with 2x32GB Corsair DDR5 Vengeance Black, PC5-44800 (5600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 40, XMP 3.0, 1.25V. It wasn't something I did any homework on. I can still hear the squeal of my piggy bank for the cost of the 4090. Usually my machines have a 3-year cycle. This one may need to running for 5.
@@lucasdigital i’m assuming a z790-e and up isn’t really worth it. Also I think CL36 would have been a better choice. I could only rly get a 3080 so i might be a bit cpu heavy.
Only the D4 version is DDR4, the regular version is DDR5
I literally made this exact mistake with the exact same board (recommended by microcenter). Incredibly frustrating.
Ooof. Sorry to hear it. That's not cool on Microcenter
There seems little difference over the ddr4 and 5 versions of this board. The ram mix up extends to profiles, some stores don't show clearly if the ram offered is for intel or amd
ram isn’t specific to intel or amd it’s just marketing
@@KiTTVII some forums suggested that intel profiled ddr5 ram (on an amd mboard) had less issues than the other way around for some reason, although I suspect they may have been mixing that up with motherboard compatibility
Thanks for the advice to watch the RAM generation with the I9 boards. About 2 years ago I got a an !9 that takes that earlier DDR4 RAM, and as I am considering increasing my RAM quantity, I shall have to be careful in that respect. Who knows? I may have just gone ahead and got the wrong type, but the MB manual is quite easy to read concerning RAM type and quantity. Goes up to 128Gb of 32GB single DIMM capacity (4 sticks) in either ECC un-buffered DIMM or non-ECC units. Probably best for me to get the same type as is there now. I have two sticks giving me 32Gb, and so far that is plenty, but I could install another two if necessary without replacing the first two, and without running into compatibility problems, to give 64Gb. I suppose I could, instead of 2 sticks of 16Gb, add 2 of 32Gb, giving me 96Gb total.. I would need to take especial care regarding timing.
You COULD run into many issues if your set of ram isn't a 4 piece kit.
They are guaranteed to be fine, but just pairing another 2 even of the same, could still see you with BSOD due to that..
what Z790 DDR5 motherboard should i use for 13900k
Strix
@@thealien_ali3382 STRIX E ?
I'm thinking before add that problem!? I buy "Asus maximus code" no matter what kind of ram you will put on the motor board accepte all of them
beautiful thank you Asus💯
I knew what was the problem before you mentioned it, I saw a video about this issue... LOL
I saw the D4 on the motherboard and then the Kingston DDR5 RAM... 😅
Not sure why everyone's hammering on Ram Speeds, it means little in comparison to other more important factors. Sure it can help a bit but isn't make or break, go ahead and argue, you will just be confirming your own ignorance. DDR5 is neat but DDR4 will still work just fine and be more than enough for normal users and even high end users. Hype is really making PC's look and feel horrible with the amount of non certified folks jabbering in the comment sections about what THEY think you should be using. People needing speed in the most extreme circumstances will see some benefit but so called Gamer/Enthusiasts, little to none regardless of their claims, just in benchmark scores and the differences are slight. DDR4 to DDR5 jump is small as was 3 to 4, 1 to 3 was Big, 3 to 5 is pretty big. If you already are using 4 stick with it till at least DDR6 or 7, unless they change the numbering by then.
You could've said that from the beginning. Trying to make your videos longer. Wtr
There was no malicious intent. I was making content for my audience, a behind the scenes look at what I was doing. Not trying to get longer view times, that's just cynical assumption...
I just picked up this motherboard in a z690-a along with a 13900k but I’m having an issue where I’m not getting a post. The motherboard light says it’s a DRAM issue but I’m reusing the same DRAM (gskill trident z 4000mhz) I had with my other setup. I confirmed that these DDR speeds are supported as well as reinstalled the ram in my other setup and it works with no issues. I went ahead and ordered another set of Ram to see if that it acutely the issue but won’t know for a couple more days
update?
update?
That must have sucked! I can't even laugh as it sounds like a mistake I'd make.
Can you put a Intel i9 12900K CPU into this Asus Rog Strix Z790-A Mainboard?
Just bios update your 12900k board and plop the 13900k in there problem solved
First, LOL. ;)
Second, the large empty area above the mobo is a dealbreaker for me. Those rubber grommets are gross too.
Not sure why this is such a big prob.. Just go and buy some ddr4 ram.. It’s not expensive
so this mother does not accept ddr5?
The the asus z690 formula motherboard that your 12th gen 12900k uses ddr5 ram
yes
Literally if anyone watched videos about 12th gen they told you to watch out for the board having a D4 in their name...which denotes DDR4 motherboard. Lots of intel buyers here I see...so it feels good to finacially support a company(by buying their products) that literally paid HP and Dell BILLIONS of dollars to not offer amd based sytems...a practive they do to this very day but in a sneaker way...with rebates to push intel based systems. No way I will EVER buy an intel cpu. Absolutely no way.
So you didn't check the recommended ram on the Asus website....? I am currently researching a new build for my Unreal 5 set up, i7 13700 and Asus z790 and matching the ram serial numbers is the first thing I do.
Good job. If I was buying naturally I'd research but I didn't buy it and made assumptions so this was for others who might have done the same and not realised. Sharing is caring. Calling other people stupid for their errors is not. It's a wise man that learns from other people's mistakes
AND WHAT do you have plugged in just above your floor fans, blocking 1.5 of them and starving your GPU? yike.
That actually makes very little difference to GPU temps according to my tests
i watched this video multiple times but disregarded it because i wasnt going to use ddr5 ram... but i got a z690-f and that motherboard only takes ddr5 ram..... :(((
is the asus rog strix z790-a compatible with the i9 13900k???? Pls help
Yes
You should also say that you need a BIOS update or Flash for Z690 combined with 13th gen motherboards
But this is a Z790 board?
@@TheProvokedPrawn oh my bad, i misread it then. I just bought the same but Z690 that's why 😅 disregard my comment, good job explaining some possible issues! 🤗
@@mr.daddynormal3255 no worries 🤣
DDR4 is perfect for me i bought 128GB DDR4 (4x32GB) a few weeks ago and my old bord cant handle so much Ram so i use this Board with an New CPU (DRR5 cost more than double than DDR4)
That cpu can handle both ddr4 and ddr5 ram so maybe plug it and see worst case fails to post abd I only seen you unclip the top side