The Real Reason Why George Lucas Made the Fetts Fake Mandalorians

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  • @LoreStar
    @LoreStar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    We made an UPDATED 2020 VERSION in light of Season 2
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    • @leadingauctions8440
      @leadingauctions8440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So is this just a Disney Canon thing?
      I remember proper Star Wars being a different story.

    • @Armageist
      @Armageist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And yet all those "TRUE MANDALORIANS" were wiped out in the underground tunnels on Nevarro by Storm Troopers that were wiped out by ONE MANDALORIAN and his stupidly over powered IG Droid (until if course it was no longer relevant to the plot and needed to conveniently blow itself up).
      So either Mandalorians don't all wear Beskar (as evidenced by Din's original trashed armor), and/or the creators of this show can't even follow their own "canon logic" and "TRUUUUE" Mandalorians aren't shit even in Beskar Armor (because they all died).
      And why would a galactic army be cloned off of a "famous" poser bounty hunter?
      Absolute garbage what Lucas and Baloney Filoni have done to Star Wars EU canon (now legends and integrated into Disneycanon) even before Disney got their hands on it.

    • @thehale_
      @thehale_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Armageist cope

    • @wallybraveheart6896
      @wallybraveheart6896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the love of Star Wars remove the video !

    • @elijajackson9651
      @elijajackson9651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's simple. He's a Jedi killer. Mandalorian armor is the best armor 2 kill Jedi with. Look at how he used it. It may b a bootleg version but it's the next best thing. Remember the armor and tech the mandalorian's used was meant 2 kill Jedi during there war.

  • @greger2045
    @greger2045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +650

    He have armor like a mandalorian, he fights like a mandalorian, he acts like a mandalorian, but he aint mandalorian, thats bulletproof storytelling right there, gosh...

    • @Alpha-106
      @Alpha-106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @Lassi Kinnunen Mandalorian the tv show Shows that mandalorians exist after the empire fallen so your statement is just wrong. Also did you not read alot of comics put out where it showed jango was a true mandalorian and this was even respected in the clone wars but, to the peace loving ones he wouldn't be a mando any more?

    • @Alpha-106
      @Alpha-106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      and we only have to look back to something like swtor to see that oh hey mando are about the hunt and never removing there helmet minus some reasons. Which while swtor is in the gray zone for canon at the moment its better then trying to act like it doesnt exist.

    • @Shadynastys
      @Shadynastys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      jango was one of the very last mandlorian and he never fully trained boba before he died so you could argue boba isnt maybe but jango is as mando as it gets

    • @Wolfstanus
      @Wolfstanus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Lassi Kinnunen How to be wrong in 50 shades of incorrect

    • @jangofett4547
      @jangofett4547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I killed Jedi with my bare hands! - Do you think any Non-Mando could pull this off?

  • @dexter7122able
    @dexter7122able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    i always thought the mandalorian in the clone wars was lying to obi wan so he wouldn’t think jango was a mandalorian to get obi wan on his side.

    • @Yingyanglord1
      @Yingyanglord1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Exactly also trusting him is doubtful he is nigh literal snack

    • @Harpshadow
      @Harpshadow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I saw it as that because that guy was corrupt and wanted Dutches gone.

    • @vivecthepoet36
      @vivecthepoet36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, considering Deathwatch shows up later proving everything he said false...

    • @b.lloydreese2030
      @b.lloydreese2030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a better explanation

  • @JTHMsonicfan
    @JTHMsonicfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1442

    "Mandalorians are organized into clans" Clan Fett stretches back thousands of years.
    "Mandos are proud of their culture" Jango and Boba speak the language at home, wear the armor, decorate their armor with symbols of Mando culture, created an army trained in Mandalorian tradition, and both at one point were Mandalore.
    If Darth Maul can be Mandalorian, no amount of retcon can make the Fett's not Mandalorian.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This ^

    • @christopherstein2024
      @christopherstein2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Would it be stupid if Maul came back to life after getting cut in two dead center and landing after free falling?
      Filoni: No. Why would it?
      Is Boba Mandalorian?
      Filoni: Gtfo. I wanna write my own lore.

    • @Shadynastys
      @Shadynastys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @JoGeJo Madolorain armor is made from beskar which became extremely rare after the empire so he probably used a different material

    • @skotnica93
      @skotnica93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Shadynastys To be fair, it was rare even before the Empire in the EU.

    • @rencloudkicker
      @rencloudkicker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skotnica93 yes. Because the Jedi were forced to wipe them out because they posed that much of a threat. Thus, the Mandalorean War. I'm not sure how the clone wars cartoon portrayed it I didnt bother with their reboot of the mandalore cannon.

  • @lukewarman2248
    @lukewarman2248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    George Lucas: They aren't Mandalorians
    Literally Everyone: Yeah no

    • @theuncommonn00b12
      @theuncommonn00b12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      legends

    • @johnjones_1501
      @johnjones_1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @D Gray Exactly. I will add something controversial. Lucas has proved that he can not be trusted with Star Wars, in what he did with the prequals. "A New Hope" was almost a disaster, with half the movie being focused on High Schoolers on Tatooine and their speeder drag racing culture. It was basically just going to be "America Graffiti" in space.
      The movie was actually saved by the corporate suits, and George Lucas's wife. The first group deciding that a movie called Star Wars should be about Wars in Space, and not lose focus, and ordering reshoots. The second, because she painstakingly edited the movie that George Lucas made, and wanted, chopping it up, cutting needles scenes, adding scenes that Lucas had not wanted to include, until she finally found a good movie in the mess.
      Lucas is a very intelligent guy, and no one understands or has advanced the technology of movie making more, but he isn't a story teller. If he doesn't have someone on his back who can keep him focused, or tell him when he is being too much, he will go off in weird directions. His biggest flaw is that he falls too much in love with his technical achievements, Jar Jar was actually a revolution in CGI technology at the time, and won't abandon them, or will try to overplay them. Again, he is a really good director, but he is one of those people that works best when he is part of a team, and not the dictator.

    • @Mahbu
      @Mahbu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The new episode of The Mandalorian made the Fetts Mandalorians again.

    • @Mahbu
      @Mahbu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@D Gray We know plenty enough, though. And not just from Legends but also Disney Canon.
      .
      It is clear that trying to make Boba Fett not a Mandalorian was very unpopular so this moving walking things back makes sense. It also harkens back to the Expanded Universe material, alluding to one of the more popular stories featuring Jango Fett. In it Jango was originally a the son of a law man who aided the "True Mandalorian" faction against the Death Watch splinter faction. His father was killed by the Death Watch but Jango was saved and taken in by the True Mandalorians, becoming a Mandalorian himself.
      .
      In Legends Mandalorians weren't a race, either. And it wasn't so much a specific creed as it was a loose system of belief and a generalist warrior culture started originally by the Taung. The Taung took to allowing other races joining them, thus starting a key aspect of Mandalorian culture - adopting others. We do know this, at least, made it into Disney Canon. The main character of the Mandalorian is himself a Foundling. Many times the show has stated the importance of Foundlings to the Mandalorians, or at least that specific sect.
      .
      So what did we learn in the show? Jango was a foundling who fought in the Mandalorian Civil War. It sounds remarkably like that story.
      .
      I strongly suspect Prime Minister Almec was lying or distorting things when he stated Jango wasn't a Mandalorian. He was representing the Pacifist regime of Satine (one of the worst characters ever) but he was also a criminal in charge of a vast black market.

    • @zmohan69
      @zmohan69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnjones_1501 oh right bc disney has done so well. Without lucas star wars would be nothing. Every star wars that disney has touched has been fucking aweful and filled with so many plot holes and garbage its unreal

  • @cgarrett2212
    @cgarrett2212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +992

    They should’ve just made them mandalorians would’ve been soo much less complicated

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      They are though. Being banished, doesn't alter your bloodline or genetics. And boba is an unaltered clone, of a banished mandalorian, making him a mandalorian aswell. The whole "unaltered" part being the key to that.
      I could easily see saying that they arnt, "true mandalorians" seeing as they were banished, and how boba wasn't trained, and shit, but saying they arnt mandalorians, at all, is fucking idiotic.

    • @tonyrussell7322
      @tonyrussell7322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pan Galactic Plenipotentiary not everything in a story needs to be kosher or easy to explain. Movies would be so fucking boring if they all followed those rules

    • @NhatLinhNguyen82
      @NhatLinhNguyen82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@stapuft But I thought Mandalorian is not a species but rather the way of life, a culture?

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@NhatLinhNguyen82 it's both, just like the Spartans. You could be Spartan by birth, or by becoming spartan, and becoming spartan, makes your lineage spartan as well.

    • @G7M9W
      @G7M9W 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Personally, I think all the "in universe" confusion is a convoluted attempt to address real-world marketing. Boba Fett and "Mandalorian" armor just became waaaay more popular than George Lucas or anybody expected, and eventually, they decided to cash in on that by writing a bunch of Mandalorian stories, comics, etc. which only served to make Mandalorians and their culture even keeewler. At some point, perhaps George/marketing thought "Well we can't have a bunch of Jedi-killers and bounty hunting bad guy anti-heroes being so popular" so they banished/retconned the Fetts, and tried to make Mandalorian society more "honorable." Of course, that's just my cynical opinion, and I have, admittedly, not read all the Mando-related liturature, canon or otherwise. That being said, I do like Boba Fett, Mandalorian armor, and the new show.

  • @Razzrazz90
    @Razzrazz90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5340

    George Lucas: “Fandom, the council has made a decision.”
    Fandom: “I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.”

    • @hudscp
      @hudscp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      Besides why would we listen to that sell out, sore loser George Lucas anyway. He doesn’t get to tell us what is canon and what isn’t anymore.

    • @ralindrakus7380
      @ralindrakus7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      I would unlike this comment just to like it again.
      Perfect response

    • @craven1927
      @craven1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Best. Comment.

    • @dojokonojo
      @dojokonojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      George Lucas also gave us the Star Wars Holiday Special

    • @craven1927
      @craven1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @Jo Ad well the Clone Wars tv series being referenced in this video where Lucas apparently decided to nix the Mandalorian title from Jango and Boba, all occurred before the Disney buyout. This is all on Lucas. You can't blame the mouse for this one

  • @theblade1251
    @theblade1251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Jango fett is a foundling mandalorian and fought on the civil war.

    • @Cybertron1256
      @Cybertron1256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup just found that out yesterday

    • @LoreStar
      @LoreStar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They changed their minds. It happens.

    • @nemisous83
      @nemisous83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@LoreStar they didnt change their mind it's never been stated that Jango wasn't Mandalorian also given the context of Clone Wars episode airing when Open Season was still canon Alrec's response made sense because he was Death Watch and Fett was part of the loyalists and the Death Watch viewed the loyalists as "not Mandalorians" so his comment can't exactly be taken at face value.

    • @crunkalac
      @crunkalac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course

    • @meteoriccord5342
      @meteoriccord5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      so you have disney+ then

  • @TheBoost103
    @TheBoost103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Jango Fett and his clones are still the only ones to kill Jedi on screen without being Force sensitive. Haven’t seen a “True Mandalorian” do that... yet.

    • @Nikelaos_Khristianos
      @Nikelaos_Khristianos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your comment really confused me and I was about to point to the whole Mandalorian Wars before I read "onscreen".
      Flipping heck, the Disney canon is weird.

    • @ethanjaubert437
      @ethanjaubert437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whether Jango or the clones can kill Jedi or not it's irrelevant when it comes to Mandalorian culture just because it's deadly doesn't mean it's Mandalorian otherwise all bounty hunters will be wich they're not

  • @shiftermelees4390
    @shiftermelees4390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Here's why at least Jango was a real Mandalorian:
    "Here's why you can't exterminate us, aruetii. We're not huddled in one place-we span the galaxy. We need no lords or leaders-so you can't destroy our command. We can live without technology-so we can fight with our bare hands. We have no species or bloodline-so we can rebuild our ranks with others who want to join us. We're more than just a people or an army, aruetii. We're a culture. We're an idea. And you can't kill ideas-but we certainly can kill you."

    • @martinsparkin
      @martinsparkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like mercury struck with a hammer. Scattered, only to rejoin when not expected

    • @shiftermelees4390
      @shiftermelees4390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Zack Jones I know this. I'm just saying why Jango is a true Mandalorion.

    • @tower117
      @tower117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are Mandalorian

    • @MrZackavelli
      @MrZackavelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zack Jones He never attributes the quote to Jango

    • @Unchainedmaple888
      @Unchainedmaple888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Zack Jones Yeah and Cassus is Jango's ancestor so ergo Jango is a God darn Mandalorian

  • @Joe.Shmo.Eskimo
    @Joe.Shmo.Eskimo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "The Fetts aren't Mandalorians"
    Cassus Fett: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @duffyjohnson77
    @duffyjohnson77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +700

    The bounty hunter in “The Mandalorian” is also not from Mandalore. They took him in.

    • @wldcrd26
      @wldcrd26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      yes he is an orphan or what they call a foundling

    • @Jubafree
      @Jubafree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And because he was a orphan raised by mandos he doesnt take of his helmet unlike mandos on mandalor

    • @jamesfarmer509
      @jamesfarmer509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Jubafree The Helmet is his new identity as a Mandalorian, he himself is not one but he was taken in, raised and trained as a Madalorian and the helmet represents his new identity and rejecting his old identity to be a Mandalorian

    • @katenaccios
      @katenaccios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      If you live by The Way™ and follow mandalorian rules and traditions, you are a mandalorian, even if you're not from the planet Mandalore. If you wear mandalorian armor and just go bounty hunting...

    • @BloodNiggaHamtrax
      @BloodNiggaHamtrax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      mandalorian isnt a race its a warrior code atleast until the disney canon ruined it

  • @BrekkaJones24
    @BrekkaJones24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Ventress: not Rattataki
    Jango & Boba: not Mandalorian
    Snoke: not Sith
    What the hell are these people on... Next up: Galaxy not far away at all, it's earth in the future. Also, Jedi aren't Jedi.

    • @paulb3476
      @paulb3476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Luke Skywalker Not a Jedi
      Jabba not a Hutt
      Darth Vader not Luke and Leia's father
      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ElGringoCastellano
      @ElGringoCastellano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Snoke was never Sith. There's nothing to retcon there

    • @paulb3476
      @paulb3476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      AND R2-D2 and C-3PO really weren't the droids you're looking for
      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Maul: not iridonian
      Mace windu’s lightsaber: not special
      Hotel: not travigo.

    • @blackbyrd7171
      @blackbyrd7171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 i dont think maul was ever iridonian. They make differences between Iridonian and Zabrak's

  • @derekholton9314
    @derekholton9314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Short answer: Jango WAS a mandalorian. He was in fact a leader of Deathwatch for a period; the only true mandalorians alive at his time. He left the creed to become a bounty hunter then was offered a lot a lot a lot of credits for his genes and used the cloning to also create a son who would become the prodigy, Boba Fett; donning his fallen father's armor

    • @OrDuneStudios
      @OrDuneStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not of Death Watch. But the True Mandalorians.
      The Mando Civil War was a 4 way mexican stand off with one side hoping the tiher three wiped themselves out

    • @gothelvis3541
      @gothelvis3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      George made the franchise if he says they weren't that's his character to say they weren't, not yours.

    • @derekholton9314
      @derekholton9314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gothelvis3541 idk what you're talking about but I never claimed boba fett was ever considered Mandalorian and only claimed Jango used to be Mandalorian

  • @elpatron6537
    @elpatron6537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    Some people: „Disowning the Fetts“
    The Fetts: „I started this gangsta shit, and this the Motherfucking thanks i get?“
    Edit: Looks like that the Fetts got their motherfucking thanks they deserve

    • @MrGuiharr
      @MrGuiharr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Floyd W 💀

    • @emperorpalpatine2998
      @emperorpalpatine2998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True

    • @urjnlegend
      @urjnlegend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cruising down the sect in my slave 1

    • @sabertheodst
      @sabertheodst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Floyd W Fetts: “And so I started blasting...”

    • @NatEff3ct
      @NatEff3ct 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well considering he was wearing fake armor I’m not sure what one has to do with the other

  • @steampoweredmaniac5359
    @steampoweredmaniac5359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    This seems so convoluted for a character that they somewhat abandoned.

    • @robbierootbeer8056
      @robbierootbeer8056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @C R I think it's more people who have read a lot of expanded universe, because there's actually a lot of old legends stuff for these characters that is really cool, but it is completely null and void with the decision that boba and jango aren't Mandalorian.

  • @silenstrike665
    @silenstrike665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    Being mandalorian has little to nothing to do with your bloodline. The original Mando'ade were the Taung an alien species who invented the culture. The new show also introduced the idea of foundlings. One more thing Jango Fett was adopted by mandalorians (Jaster Mereel I believe) when his parents were killed. Making him a foundling himself. Raised into the ways of the mando'ade under jaster's guidance. Jaster being Mand'alor. The dent had to be the fact that beskar wasnt even a thought in anyone's mind when ROTJ came out. But this theory is also really cool. Good video!

    • @silenstrike665
      @silenstrike665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      However I like the idea of the Fetts being Mando'ade. So the legends story with Jaster Mereel is just my personal canon hah.

    • @allthebitschaos3261
      @allthebitschaos3261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@silenstrike665 I LIKE PIZZA!

    • @smilingassassin8229
      @smilingassassin8229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah in legends jango is mandalorian due to the fact he was indoctrinated into their culture but in canon it seems they’re getting rid of this and maybe creating their own

    • @singmysin
      @singmysin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The no beskar is part of the story he couldn't have had it because the Empire stole majority of it when he was a kid

    • @singmysin
      @singmysin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also before them there was a fett with the title of madalore

  • @jakestrickland1323
    @jakestrickland1323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    He is a mando, he was lying just like he was lying about all the warriors dying out

    • @kyriss12
      @kyriss12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yeah seeing that was coming from a guy who lead a mandalor faction that considered other factions to be heratics, I wouldn't be surprised that he doesn't consider Fett to be a true Mandalor.
      That scene doesn't actually undo any of the established canon.

    • @AzathothXy
      @AzathothXy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think he's from a rival clan. And has a grudge against the Fett clan.

    • @Mikito456
      @Mikito456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AzathothXy Yea actually, and I think whats most insulting about TCW is they stole the name "Vizsla" and "Deathwatch" from the same comic book where Jango Fett and his clan of "True Mandalorians" defeat Tor Vizsla's Deathwatch movement and Jango even becomes Mandalore by the end. So they pretty much took the names they liked and erased everything else.

    • @FATE522
      @FATE522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then why did Dave say that scene was for George to say that Jango and Boba aren't Mandalorians?

    • @HavocHounds1988
      @HavocHounds1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Explain the non Beskar armor? This video brings up a lot of good points on how they aren't true Mando's.

  • @yokgor4675
    @yokgor4675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    This is the one thing that I will not accept even if George said it, the Fett will always be Mandalorians.

    • @frankg2790
      @frankg2790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I agree. While it was nice that TCW didn't depict Mandalorians as another cookie cutter warrior race, declaring Jango Fett to not be a Mandalorian was a dick move.

    • @UrbanTiger74
      @UrbanTiger74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      George is just hating on the popularity of Fett. Because it wasn't part of the plan.

    • @J0Ecorreia
      @J0Ecorreia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I was confused about this video claiming Jango was not a mandalorian. Jango was literally raised by Jaster Mereel and other mandalorians.

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Correia
      Yee

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phoo Yeah
      Well he was just raised by a mandalorian Jango I mean

  • @mistertwister2000
    @mistertwister2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    I don’t tend to ignore what George considers canon (even when it’s dumb), but as far as I’m concerned the Fetts were Mandalorians, end of story.

    • @clonecommanderfoggy682
      @clonecommanderfoggy682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same here

    • @ThatIrishLass
      @ThatIrishLass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You might not but I know plenty of people(myself included) who haven't given a wet fart what Lucas though about canon in years. I appreciate the groundwork he laid, but its ours now, not his. And I wish he'd get over his ego long enough to realise that.

    • @justinmoore6381
      @justinmoore6381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Learned Soldier It’s still his if made it ,to me, Disney screwed up the Skywalker Saga

    • @DjVader112
      @DjVader112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Justin Moore lucas already ruined it before it even came to disney

    • @justinmoore6381
      @justinmoore6381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mini Panini He might have ruined but it Disney bombed it

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367
    @da_pikmin_coder8367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lore Star: "Boba Fett's armor is observably fake"
    The Mandalorian: [Sees man in green, dented Mandalorian armor] "Hey that's real Mandalorian armor, gimme"

    • @seriousnesstv7902
      @seriousnesstv7902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right

    • @seriousnesstv7902
      @seriousnesstv7902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This video did not age well

    • @Skitdora2010
      @Skitdora2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I suspect he see's the special Mandalorian iron metal somewhere in it which brings authenticity to the suits origin. Just like elves recognize elvish blades in Middle Earth, or dwarves recognize mithril.

  • @thenintendoman
    @thenintendoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Yet another channel that literally repeats the same two minutes of script slightly rearranged until they reach that ten minute mark.

    • @justchilling704
      @justchilling704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thenintendoman 👍🏽🤣

    • @Memehoardercatwoofdogmeow
      @Memehoardercatwoofdogmeow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well then stop hitting back.

    • @Dinobot_Sigma
      @Dinobot_Sigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what's the significance of the ten minute mark? is that a youtube thing?

    • @AlonzoTompkins
      @AlonzoTompkins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Money

    • @chicken_shadowz2138
      @chicken_shadowz2138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dinobot_Sigma if it gets 10 minutes u can put more ads , ads make you money

  • @zabicvamere
    @zabicvamere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    So the mandolorian, being a foundling, wouldn't have his own heritage armor. he has to carve a path into the mandolorian family by assembling his own and earning his way into the culture.

    • @DillsyYourDaddy67
      @DillsyYourDaddy67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And the signet thing they speak about must be an extremely dangerous and deadly creature or thing they need to kill in an honourable manner. Kind of like a right of passage.

    • @squishyflop5046
      @squishyflop5046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DillsyYourDaddy67 Actually that creature was killed to extinction by the Mandalorians, way before the Clone Wars. ( I believe during KOTOR) So, on Mandalore, the skulls of the creatures were everywhere, and at this time the Mandalorians were still a warrior culture. So as a way of showing strength, the skull became a symbol for all of the Mandalorians.

    • @DillsyYourDaddy67
      @DillsyYourDaddy67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Squishyflop504 I thought when they spoke about the signet in episode 3 they said it was going to be the creature he killed that damaged his armour. Then he turned it down cause it wasn’t an honourable kill.

    • @parkinsaw
      @parkinsaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DillsyYourDaddy67 Yeppers since his enemy helped him (Force wielding baby) presumably a jedi born creature, wasn't Honorable as the kid did all the work. Before that she asked him how he got the scratch on his armour.

    • @klobbson
      @klobbson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@parkinsaw "Scratch" might be the understatement of the millenium lol

  • @bobobo2224
    @bobobo2224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fetts armor isn't fake. Even in the mandalorian, not all armor was made from beskar. Mando's first armor wasn't. They made it a HUGE point to show the difference. So the dent means nothing. He upgraded his armor. And he didn't do it just to make him look more silver.

    • @attroxhippo6938
      @attroxhippo6938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @fiji9389
      @fiji9389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ngl i think it was a bit of a false statement from him to say that, because both of the clips we see both show similar effects on the armour of boba and the foundling, I reckon they might make them mandalorians again tho, with the new mando season

    • @frostburn6784
      @frostburn6784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fiji9389 i hope so bc that concord dawn story of Jango makes sense he even denounced the title of mandalorian so why not George lol

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It feels disrespectful not to call Jango and Boba Fett Mandalorians. The only really we even have Mandalorians at all is because of Boba and we owe it to the character that started it all to call him a true Mandalorain. Make him from Clan Fett, I think that's the interpretation some EU comics went with.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      THey are people who existance to the moon of mandalore... not mandoloreain...

    • @TheArne959
      @TheArne959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im pritty sure in Star wars the old republic you need to kill some mandalorian with the last name of fett . (Old repunlic uses the adoping in to mandalorian culture tathere then the "race")

    • @hadaward66
      @hadaward66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheArne959 Cassus Fett was the commander of the mandalorian neo crusaders during the mandalorian wars, unfortunately this is legends now

  • @BrentCubZeez
    @BrentCubZeez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    1. It wasn't George's idea, it was Filoni's.
    2. The New Mandalorians as Mandalorian because they were pacifists.
    3. The Star Wars Databank lists him as being from Concord Dawn which is a Mandalorian colony world, which still makes him Mandalorian.
    4. I will never recognize Jango as nonmando.

    • @JohnM-f3p
      @JohnM-f3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That line doesn't matter anyway. The Mandalorians on Mandalore would certainly try to deny Jango as a Mandalorian given he tried to assassinate a member of the Galactic Senate and consorted with enemies of the Republic

    • @JohnM-f3p
      @JohnM-f3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Especially to a Jedi of the Galactic Republic
      The authorial intent behind that line is worthless.

    • @badhival3779
      @badhival3779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheRamenNoodle Lion well you have to accept it because the fetts aren’t mandolorians and never were mandolorians just because there was a made up a story doesn’t mean they were ever mandos

    • @yodaiam6996
      @yodaiam6996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BadHiVal why do you keep saying made up stories, Star Wars is made up

    • @badhival3779
      @badhival3779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YodaIAm69 yeah Star Wars is made up....BY GEORGE LUCAS not some nobody who thinks mandos are cool. What ever George says goes.

  • @kvarde2441
    @kvarde2441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    George Lucas: cursed to make awesome villains but hates to see them prosper.

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    My head canon is that he was lying to cover the ass of New Mandalorians as if he acknowledged the Fetts as Mandalorians then he'd probably be forced to say that not all Mandalorians followed their new peaceful views.
    I wonder how Mandalorian warriors of the era would view different types of Clone Troopers (eg: Commandos, ARCs, etc). Also is it canon that Jango and Mandalorians trained specific types of Clone Troopers similar to the Legends version of ARC Troopers, such as Fordo and Alpha, or Clone Commandos (I think).

    • @LoreStar
      @LoreStar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I too actually haven't discounted that head canon :P I was like.. nah its the character. Why George, why?

    • @CommandoIvan
      @CommandoIvan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jedi Spartan 38 The Commandos were trained by the Cuy’val Dar which were a group of hired mercs employed by Jango Fett. Well before all that was made non canon by George’s children show.

    • @Wardogindustries
      @Wardogindustries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Minister Almac in the same breath also said all the warriors died out years ago, and he was lying about that....

    • @RaddSpencer
      @RaddSpencer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Wardogindustries It's amazing that so many people don't understand the concept of "the unreliable narrator".

    • @gootlegaming1365
      @gootlegaming1365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I gotta agree with Chosen One honestly, it makes more sense to where the peaceful Mandalorians didn't consider foundlings and warriors as tru Mandalorians anyone, while they probably thought the same about him, because without Fett's connection to Mandalorians how were the clones trained? and why was the clone armor fashioned in Mandalorian? So yeah I agree with Chosen One

  • @DWIcarlo
    @DWIcarlo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    George Lucas doesn’t even know what’s canon and what isn’t. Jango Fett was from Concord Dawn how is he not Mandalorian?

    • @vivecthepoet36
      @vivecthepoet36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @hate2seeit A confused angry old man. Let's not forget that he decided Jedi shouldn't be allowed to marry because he went through a messy divorce..

    • @vn01208503
      @vn01208503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he was written a story back in the 90s that supposed to end after 3 movies , many lores and updated version came out, who the hell can keep up with all the canons or non canons?

    • @vivecthepoet36
      @vivecthepoet36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@vn01208503 literally anyone. There's an expressly detailed fan wiki called Wookiepedia that's been around since 2005 that has made a detailed catalog of Star Wars lore. And prior to that, people managed. There's some sort of myth that the Star Wars EU is overly complicated or convoluted, but most of it can be broken up into manageable chunks or time periods, and most of the stories neatly cross-reference each other.

    • @esteban20969564
      @esteban20969564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i can say im from new york even if i born somewhere else, those that make me a new yorker?? i don't think so....

    • @coreyconley8267
      @coreyconley8267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@esteban20969564 Jangos parents were killed he we young and turned into a Mandalorian warrior.

  • @joshwalker4426
    @joshwalker4426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Bruh, Jango was a foundling and passed down everything to Boba

  • @PAXperMortem
    @PAXperMortem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    This is one of the dumbest retcons ever...

    • @Me4-gc8qs
      @Me4-gc8qs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wasn't a retcon at all. There was a book way back in 1985 that explained Boba wasn't a Mandalorian. Google is your friend use before making dumb ass statements.

    • @pickupball6037
      @pickupball6037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Me4-gc8qs Ummm the book was written 2 years after Return of the Jedi. That sounds like the definition of retcon to me. To wait a few years after the movie is done then go back and say....oh by the way all the markings and symbols on this guy mean nothing they are just for show is pretty lame when the guy is supposed to be a badass.

    • @onuq3r4y478
      @onuq3r4y478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ ....... what?

    • @DerangedManiac12
      @DerangedManiac12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing in the films directly established anything about Mandalorians. The first mention of Mandalorians in the previous canon was a 1983 Marvel comic which said that Mandalorians were a group of "supercommandos" who were nearly wiped out after the Clone Wars, and that Boba Fett was one of only three Mandalorians still left. This story was directly inspired by notes made by designers Ralph McQuarrie and Joe Johnston in 1979, and obviously later EU writers wanting to capitalize on Boba's popularity completely disregarded it so they could introduce more Mandalorian stuff. Knowing that, it starts to make sense that George would want to make the Mandalorian stuff separate from the Fetts as it now contradicted the original team's vision.
      This is not to say that it's bad and/or deserved to be thrown out, or that writers aren't allowed to build on the lore of Star Wars, but Lucas always saw his word as final and if something went against how he envisioned the universe, he'd declare it non-canon. Fortunately, the EU still exists and you can still see the universe the way you want to without contradicting the movies.

    • @briandurio6479
      @briandurio6479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onuq3r4y478 yeah Disney tried that basically saying that this lady that ran imperial Intelligence/propaganda was the real leader of the empire

  • @yvesv7098
    @yvesv7098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Jango was adopted by Jaster Mereel, who taught him the ways of the Mandalorian idc what disney thinks is canon or not

    • @erwin669
      @erwin669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Disney had no part in that. The Clone Wars was being made before Disney bought the franchise and it comes from a conversation between Lucas and the TCW director

    • @shanejacobs9091
      @shanejacobs9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      According to "The mandalorian" foundlings are still true mandalorian because it's the code that matters not their race.

    • @soybasedjeremy3653
      @soybasedjeremy3653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      C R Which is better than the contradictory sequel trilogy...

  • @DPham1
    @DPham1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just came by...to dump egg on the faces of everyone who said the Fetts weren't real Mandalorians.
    Jango was a founding, confirmed!

    • @nemisous83
      @nemisous83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean it's not like Disney dropped a bombshell anyone that knew context clues could figure out that Jango was a disgruntled Mando gone rogue

  • @richardbarrett4488
    @richardbarrett4488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Knuckles “Do you kno de way”
    Mando “This is the way”

    • @DrownedLamp
      @DrownedLamp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But what if?
      I have spoken!

    • @sirragno1923
      @sirragno1923 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unrelated

  • @Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea
    @Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This infuriates me. If Jango isn't a Mandalorian, then Luke isn't a Jedi

    • @Cissablack708
      @Cissablack708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well I mean technically he isn't

    • @Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea
      @Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cissablack708 Don't remind me

    • @qarahiyo
      @qarahiyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cissablack708or technically Luke was just a Citizen lol!

  • @TheHolder5
    @TheHolder5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    George: They aren’t Mandalorians
    Also The Mandalorian: I’m gonna act like I didn’t hear that

  • @knightcrafty3787
    @knightcrafty3787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Those are some fighting words for someone within Death Star distance

  • @sloreo8278
    @sloreo8278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This is a long video to say "He doesn't like stories that he didn't write"

    • @CmdrRenegade
      @CmdrRenegade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He doesn't like stories he doesn't write but he likes money. That's the only reason he allowed the EU to exist at all.

    • @vivecthepoet36
      @vivecthepoet36 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CmdrRenegade He liked the money. And he liked that if he said something didn't exist anymore or changed his mind, he could make more money from the people who had to clean up after his mess.

  • @mcjuice900
    @mcjuice900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This didn't age well

  • @uscbigfan2011
    @uscbigfan2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The short answer: despite his greatness, Lucas couldn’t help but constantly meddle in established lore. For example, see the constant edits and remasters to the original trilogy.

  • @00swank63
    @00swank63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also didn't the Mandalorians use durasteel before beskar? So unless I'm mistaken then his armor not being beskar doesn't not make him a Mandalorian

  • @doomguy9049
    @doomguy9049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    lol what a lame plot twist. George Lucas has had it in for Fett ever since he became a fan favorite in the original trilogy.

  • @timgraziani
    @timgraziani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Bounty Hunter video game for PS2, 2002 approximately, was the story of Jango Fett and how he passed the test to be the source of the clone army (see end cinematics). There is also one of the Fett comic books included in the "extras" of the game. That comic is about a young Jango as part of the Mandalore military that gets ambushed by Death Watch and Tor Vizsla kills Mereel. So every indication was that Jango was Mandalorian, while Boba does not have that direct connection but maybe through birthright.

  • @alphabulblax1649
    @alphabulblax1649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, it seems like making them not Mandalorians just caused way more plotholes than it fixed.

  • @LegatusLucius1994
    @LegatusLucius1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This video is trying to discredit the Fett's and I'm not liking it at all he doesn't need to be Mandalorian by birth to Simply kill who's in charge and take the title for himself Darth Maul did it so all is valid

  • @AlistairAi
    @AlistairAi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Jango Fett was a common bounty hunter, how he acquiredthat armour is beyond me"
    MANDO IS SHAKING RN

  • @RvnWolf
    @RvnWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, I guess they retconned one of their comics that showed Jango fought alongside Mandalorians until a betrayal got his group killed and Jango killed the traitor before becoming a bounty hunter

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Works for me.

  • @gravygraves5112
    @gravygraves5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We just forgetting the Dark Horse comics from the Bounty Hunter game that go over Jango's origin as a Mandalorian soldier?

    • @b.lloydreese2030
      @b.lloydreese2030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?
      Tameura morrison even did the voice!

    • @darkwolf4434
      @darkwolf4434 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Legends

  • @AlexEatsCats
    @AlexEatsCats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kinda sad that they took away the one thing that was cool about boba fett

  • @Fluicor
    @Fluicor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even if the armor is fake,that doesnt mean he wasnt a mandalorian.Imagine this:as and outcast, a criminal or a soldier of a losing faction,keeping an armor made of an extremely valuable metal would be nigh imposible,and even if you manage to keep it as a solo bounty hunter it would paint a massive target in your back. Or you are the children of this person,raised in the religion and ways of your parent but without a way to procure the materials or the know-how to make the armor. Best you can do is try to imitate it with what you have at hand.

  • @curtissowah2681
    @curtissowah2681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jango was the leader of his own clan

  • @bennconner1195
    @bennconner1195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was under the impression that a full set of bescar was rare even amongst mandalorans. This is why it’s only Mado that actually owns a lot of bescar armour plates in the mandalorian TV series. Even in the clone wars most of the mandalorian solders go down after a signal blaster shoot.

  • @countryboy2188
    @countryboy2188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Durge: "By all accounts it doesn't make sense."

  • @josephskiles
    @josephskiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Lucas can't keep his story straight on any of his characters, I lost interest in star wars because of the him changing Fet, I grew up with having his action figure (which was always my favorite) and reading novels like tales of the bounty hunters ( which was awesome). I don't know why he wants to screw up all the cool stuff he originally created.

    • @Anarcho-SyndicalisticSaboteur
      @Anarcho-SyndicalisticSaboteur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea i have the same feeling. I collect/collected many mandalorian figures etc. I have like 3 boba's and this guy was always my absolute favorite! With this changes boba feels like a random poser, someone u don't like anymore and not like the cool anti hero he was.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he just want to sell toy.. not a person who want to write them.. that why he gave up and sell it to disney...

    • @josephskiles
      @josephskiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@campkira true that's why hung on to the toy rights

  • @SuperPoper3
    @SuperPoper3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Mandalorian identifies bobas armor as Beskar

  • @bruvva2160
    @bruvva2160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    George Lucas is like the kid that takes his toys home because you're not playing with them right, the Fett's are Mandalorian, George is just covering his ass to make the story fit in with the original trilogy.

    • @Litany_of_Fury
      @Litany_of_Fury 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda. The lore of Boba is 98% expanded universe which was not directed by George. Hell, even most Mandalorian lore isn't Canon.
      There is plausible reason for the original story for the Fetts being what George says. All that expanded universe is just money talking.

  • @oceanbacon2960
    @oceanbacon2960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait that line from Almec was meant to be serious? I always thought of it as a sign that the pacifist Mandalorians were failing to keep Mandalore from becoming a war-ridden planet again

  • @trevorkuszmaul1698
    @trevorkuszmaul1698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think we can all agree that Jango Fett is from Concord Dawn which was conquered my The Mandalorians. Concord Dawn is in the Mandalorian Sector. Jango Fett survives and acquires Mandalorian armor. These facts are Official Canon. The rest of his history is Legends and nothing else has been explained IN CANON yet. But why would Jango wear Mandalorian Armor? Because everyone who survived the invasion on Concord Dawn would now be under Mandalorian rule so logically Jango WAS Mandalorian IN CANON until he left and became a Bounty Hunter. George and Filoni saying he’s not Mandalorian is correct “from a certain point of view”.

    • @goodmind4940
      @goodmind4940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A certain point of view? You've lied to me, how many other lies have I been told by the council?

  • @tuxedoalien6510
    @tuxedoalien6510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jango was part of the mando culture, boba was not

    • @frankg2790
      @frankg2790 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.

    • @dathanvincent4403
      @dathanvincent4403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus bobba was only ever popular because of toys and people speculating he would have a bigger part in the movies

    • @djstrongarmgmail
      @djstrongarmgmail 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dathanvincent4403 He was popular BECUASE the armor looked cool. He had a raspy voice, and commanded respect from even Vader. For his part he was bad ass. He also had limited screen time, so he was a mystery. People were left wanting more. The same way some stars are amazing at bit roles, so you want more..., then they absolutely bomb when cast in a main starring role. You get too much of them.

    • @levelcheap2435
      @levelcheap2435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Jango is, so is Boba. In legends, Jango taught Boba everything he knew and left him a guide. He also taught him the language and took him bounty hunting.

    • @tuxedoalien6510
      @tuxedoalien6510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@levelcheap2435 Jango was raised by mandalorians when his parents were killed. He learned of the culture, boba not as much. He just followed his fathers footsteps in bounty hunting

  • @forgeflame
    @forgeflame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he had to be mandalorian because in kotor there is mention of a cassius fett.
    and from wookipedia
    Cassus Fett was a Mandalorian Field Marshal who lived during the time of the Mandalorian Wars. Fett was an aide-de-camp to Mandalore the Ultimate, leader of the Mandalorians, and he was highly influential in areas throughout Mandalorian society.

  • @ladiesman181002
    @ladiesman181002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s convenient and yet stupid that Jango is a descendant of Cassus Fett the Mandalorian in legends but not canon😡😡😡😡

    • @blazinex
      @blazinex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very logical really legends is before Disney. So if Disney decides something different they can. Funny thing is... This was confirmed 10 years ago on the show before even Disney was in the picture. Jango Fett is not Mandalorian what does that mean? I think in New Canon it means he's not blood mandalorian but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been raised as one

  • @jorisveinsreideris881
    @jorisveinsreideris881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Boba is Mandalorian, becouse he has Mandalorian logo on his left arm

    • @vinussolamnus7993
      @vinussolamnus7993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a Mandalorian family crest of the "Fett clan" on his breastplate.

  • @keithmccall5170
    @keithmccall5170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jango fett was adopted by MANDALORIANs after his family was killed by death watch. There’s a comic series about it.

  • @KingJake-om7yq
    @KingJake-om7yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool to see Boba become the Mandalore in canon, like he was in legends

  • @coletrain583
    @coletrain583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After watching the Mandalorian episode "Tragedy", Jango turned out to be a real Mandalorian after all. Thus debunking this video.

  • @majorscipio7222
    @majorscipio7222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, the old canon was messy, but the Disney canon managed to get messed up in just a few years.

  • @sharkquisha3407
    @sharkquisha3407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Fetts will always be mandalorians. They should also retcon it so that the Fetts armor is made of Beskar.

    • @SuaveNerd2000
      @SuaveNerd2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn’t explain the dent... in fact it only reinforces the helm isn’t Beskar at all. In both legends and lore it would be impossible to make a dent from a blaster bolt, and it’s too small for an explosion.

    • @ukaszbiaek6641
      @ukaszbiaek6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuaveNerd2000 Boba aquires beskar armor when he is like 60 before it was durasteel

    • @sharkquisha3407
      @sharkquisha3407 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuaveNerd2000 i suppose or maybe it could have came from a more powerful blaster.

  • @brendansodko
    @brendansodko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually Jango is a Descendent of Cassus Fett, a Field Marshal for Mandalore the Ultimate. At the time Mandalorian armour was made from many different materials. Boba by blood is still a Mandalorian....Actually a rare descendent because Cassus was a Neo-Crusader and it was thought that all had died off.

  • @lemao2222
    @lemao2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A comic detailing Jango's past exists. The Fett bloodline has a foothold in Mandalorian lore, way back during the Old Republic timeline, but they long since fell off the annals in the years following the Great Sith War. They only resurfaced during the Mandalorian Civil War, where the Death Watch staged a coup against the True Mandalorians. Jango's family hosted the leader of the True Mandalorians and they were killed for it, except Jango himself. Jasper Mereel, the leader of the True Mandalorians and *THE* Mandalore at the time, took the orphaned Jango as his protegé and that's how Jango became the badass Bounty Hunter, and was later named Mandalore by his late step father.

    • @saltybulldog3241
      @saltybulldog3241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it's legends, and thus means nothing....

    • @lemao2222
      @lemao2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saltybulldog3241 Ugh. After what Kathleen Kennedy said about no comics or books existing? Yeah...

    • @lemao2222
      @lemao2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welp, I guess Episode 3 of The Mandalorian put the final nail in the coffin. Jango Fett isn't a mandalorian, not just because he doesn't wear Beskar. He also doesn't follow the Mandalorian Way. True Mandalorians *NEVER* remove their helmets or let someone else do it to them. Yet Jango trotted around Kamino unarmed and unarmored, in front of a Jedi no less. Shameful display... smh.

  • @cryojudgement2376
    @cryojudgement2376 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:03 I never noticed this but jango's jet pack ignites for a second before his head gets cut off and then it stops. It's cool cause he forgot/didnt realize his jetpack was broken so when mace gets up close he tries to fly away but it doesent blast off and the second his head comes off the jetpack shuts down cause the jetpack he used was operated through the helmet.

  • @RickyGrimes
    @RickyGrimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thought the mandalorians don’t take their helmets off

    • @astronewt1868
      @astronewt1868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ricky Grimes I think it probably depends on the clan as each seems to have their own mildly differing set of rules.
      Sub cultures of one culture. Plus The Mandalorian show seems to be DeathWatch (which is more hardcore in their rules since they’re trying to preserve their culture) related and Jango would’ve been apart of the original Mandalorians or at least the ones before they were scattered like they are in the show. New Rules for a new life.
      Plus it makes sense not to take your helmet if your being hunted down as they appear to be. Probably like being caught with your pants down lol.

  • @Snavels
    @Snavels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe when Prime Minister Almec said "How he acquired that armor is beyond me." He was really saying "I don't know how he earned that armor." In the sense that he's discrediting and disrespecting Jango Fett and the badassery that is the Fetts.

  • @crowmoon9556
    @crowmoon9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jango Fett was adopted by Jaster Mereel, a TRUE Mandalorian who kept to the culture. Jango fought and killed Jedi, helped break apart the Death Watch into shambles and when paid, he made an army of Mandalorian clones who were taught by the Cuy'Val Dar, Mandalorians who in all but reality "No longer existed". Jango AND Boba are true Mandalorians, and the new Mandalorians were distancing themselves from him because of his ruthlessness and the fact that the clones were in spirit Mandalorian.

  • @ziljin
    @ziljin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mando is a foundling so he's not a Mandalorian either.

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aliit ori'shya tal'din, mate.

    • @909bkaby
      @909bkaby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ziljin shutup hes clearly a mandalorian

    • @ziljin
      @ziljin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@909bkaby then so is Jango and Boba. They don't need Mandalorian blood.

    • @mxlypzxyrt2022
      @mxlypzxyrt2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziljin django and boba didn't acquire their armor honorably that's why they aren't mandalorian they weren't raised in mando culture but The Mandalorain was that's the difference

    • @jadeevades7138
      @jadeevades7138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mxlypzxyrt2022 Late but Jango is still born in Concord dawn which is a mandolorian planet clearly not some random guy. By your logic the guy from the Mandolorian isn't mandolorian either.

  • @senhowler
    @senhowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question of the durasteel armor is now in question because when worn by Cobb Vanth the armor easily deflected blaster bolts while taking no damage at all. So that implies that whatever dented the helmet was powerful indeed.

  • @zacharyknopp1571
    @zacharyknopp1571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I'm sure it's no longer cannon, but there was a comic that showed us Jango's past. Deathwatch was around for decades. They killed jangos parents when he was just a boy. The real mandalorian warriors that "died out" saved jango. He then became one of them and spent his early adult life hunting deathwatch. He became the leader of his clan. However, deathwatch framed them for crimes and jangos clan clashed with a jedi expeditionary force led by Jedi master Dooku. Jango was the only mandalorian survivor, gained recognition from Dooku, and went on to be a bounty hunter

  • @shrewtracks8108
    @shrewtracks8108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Armor that actually deflects blaster bolts seems like a good idea

  • @Djones0125
    @Djones0125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a stupid thing to do. If it wasn't for boba fett, there would be NO mandalorians

  • @RaineStormtf
    @RaineStormtf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Canon standards of a mandalorian differ greatly"
    This is why im not a fan of canon star wars. They take out the meaning of being a mandalorian. Its not a race, its not a social pyramid, true mandalorians are fighters. And canon ruined that fact

    • @Kaiserhawk
      @Kaiserhawk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They brought it back with the Mandalorian. It's stated in that show Mandalorian isn't a race, it's a creed

    • @rexjohnson7212
      @rexjohnson7212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then caused Massive Plotholes with the clone wars and Rebels

  • @zombieluke115
    @zombieluke115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the dent on bobas helmet explained in the clone wars season 7, in an unfinished episode.

  • @anthonyruiz8319
    @anthonyruiz8319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is here watching this after Filoni retcons this and makes Jango and Boba mandalorian again?

  • @LegatusLucius1994
    @LegatusLucius1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mandalorian by Blood such a thing doesn't exist the mandalorians aren't a race of people it's a culture and the Fett's could be a failed Clan disowned and Dishonored by wider Mandalorian culture

    • @ZatackTheGreat
      @ZatackTheGreat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This actually could be the case, after leading the True Mandalorians and the team being wiped out by the Jedi, he could of been disowned by the culture, for not standing with the rest of Mandalorians and going his own way. With neither of the factions claiming him the Clan could of just been lost after that. But the thing is if Jango was no longer a Mandalorian, how did he manage to get other Mandalorians to help train the Clones?

    • @Sbeve_One
      @Sbeve_One 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah didnt jango get raised by a real mandalorian?

    • @ZatackTheGreat
      @ZatackTheGreat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sbeve_One A True Mandalorian (group of super commandos) and he was even born on a Mandalaorian ruled planet. Jango was by most definitions a Mandalorians, even belonging to a known Clan the Fetts.

    • @saltybulldog3241
      @saltybulldog3241 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, that's EU. Current cannon is a human only race.

    • @LegatusLucius1994
      @LegatusLucius1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saltybulldog3241 Bite your fucking tongue Heathen how dare you speak such Blasphemy in my presence ! May the fate of Malachor fall upon you.

  • @shadowdemon4610
    @shadowdemon4610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that this is star wars legend, there was a comic series on Jango Fett. He was adopted by Mandalore after his parents were murdered, raised as a mandalorian by mandalore. He was framed by death watch so his clan was hunted down by the jedi, and instead of being falsely arrested he and his fellow mandos killed the jedi, killing 6 of them him self. death watch later captured and sold Jango into slavery, later escaping that, with no clan and no place to call home he got into bounty hunting.

  • @tomgormam402
    @tomgormam402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Besides EU not being canon, the was a time when the Mando were forced from their planet and did not have access to beskar.
    The closest to true mandalorian was an extinct race called Tung (spelling?).

  • @emanuelcruz8127
    @emanuelcruz8127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jango IS a mandalorian, from a faction of Mandalorians lead by Jaster Mereel, his adoptive father, there is even a comics showing how Jango become a mandalorian... after some events he become a independent bounty hunter..

  • @hiranmaydas4921
    @hiranmaydas4921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Welp....now its irrelevant

  • @ehisey
    @ehisey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will always stick the original idea Lucas proposed. The armour was left over relics from the war between the Jedi and a mandolrins. It had been peiced together by Bobba.

  • @simonash9486
    @simonash9486 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jango’s helmet is beskar, the dent is from mace windu’s blade from when boba first tried to assassinate him in chancellor palpitines office and that is according to book which is cannon.

  • @DPham1
    @DPham1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5615

    Boba and Jango Fett are the reason anybody knows about and gives a shit about Mandalorians and their culture. Disowning the Fetts is like kicking out the person who started the band.

    • @scottishsuzuki8132
      @scottishsuzuki8132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Your fucking bob on mate !

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      I think George Lucas is senile.

    • @alexcross7583
      @alexcross7583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Fact

    • @bigzniwiarz_1154
      @bigzniwiarz_1154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Foreign Native I don’t like this either. My favorite since I was a kid was also Boba fett then naturally liking Jango too. That just erases all of Jangos back story about him. Jaster taking him under his wing and taking over the mandalrions and having his rival montras a former madalore “brother” I think this is jus stupid honestly.

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Bigsean_115 exactly! That Jango Jasper Connection was the best! And I still believe it's true in my head.
      Nothing else.

  • @obibyn
    @obibyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2658

    The Mandalorian: Mandalorians can never take off their helmets.
    The Clone Wars: Wanna bet?

    • @Jabodie
      @Jabodie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +388

      Well I assume it's a post Empire practice in the new canon. Maybe returning to more ancient ways.

    • @youtubenightowl-_-2882
      @youtubenightowl-_-2882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Well they can take it off they just can never put it back on

    • @obibyn
      @obibyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@youtubenightowl-_-2882 yeah but they were taking it off and putting it back on.

    • @obibyn
      @obibyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Jabodie maybe. It might also have to do with rank.

    • @Iliadic
      @Iliadic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@youtubenightowl-_-2882 unless they were alone.

  • @Joltimus22
    @Joltimus22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +704

    *Looks at Boba Fett*
    "Look how they massacred my boy"

    • @danield.8233
      @danield.8233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I know right? Return of the Jedi really did him dirty! Oh well that was 36 years ago

    • @mikejohnstonbob935
      @mikejohnstonbob935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's alright. we now have a real (and cooler) Mandalorian to cheer for.

    • @xlaythe
      @xlaythe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mikejohnstonbob935 The mandalorian dude so far is fucking inept.

    • @3807jeff
      @3807jeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@xlaythe vs a guy that fell to a pit with teeth

    • @dhopeyinyang4103
      @dhopeyinyang4103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@3807jeff i dont think that was by choice if i recall..

  • @kaladad75
    @kaladad75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Plus Almic was a lier. Didn't he help poison kids. You going trust his words.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      That may be the most valid point to not trust anything he says

    • @UncleMuin
      @UncleMuin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Right, great point!

    • @lordmoldybutt1260
      @lordmoldybutt1260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Liar*

    • @quinnnewman2618
      @quinnnewman2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That dosent change that George Lucas confirmed he wasn’t.

    • @TheMonkeygoneape
      @TheMonkeygoneape 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@quinnnewman2618 that can be easily retconned

  • @jkdredd
    @jkdredd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +735

    The whole reason the Mandalorians were even created was to give a backstory to boba and Jango Fett!!!

    • @RW2996
      @RW2996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Yea, it's kind of ridiculous that the original Mandalorians that the whole culture was based on, are now not connected to the mandalorians in canon.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      yeah but it had to be more fun.. we know it a not baska since it was not a thing when they made it....
      Mando og armor also not yet... but it still consider a mandolorian amror...

    • @michaelmiller2835
      @michaelmiller2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You got to read the books in legends maybe cannon the fett clan it would be easy to cast jango fett out as his clan was killed off

    • @sardonicspartan9343
      @sardonicspartan9343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly! this is Disney horse shit!

    • @Vashy434
      @Vashy434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@sardonicspartan9343 This happened before Disney dude. QQ more.

  • @moshpitfuneral
    @moshpitfuneral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    Mandalore the Destroyer has said that the Mandalorian’s aren’t a race or a people, they’re an idea, so in a way, they’re not, unless they basically abandon the unspoken code they all share

    • @gringofett3944
      @gringofett3944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Exactly. Boba isn't a "Mandolorian" because he has no exposure to the warrior culture. He is of the Mandolorian people just not the warrior culture. Like a knight who is just wearing the armor but does not abide the code of chivalry or a Samurai that does not follow a code.

    • @CliffuckingBooth
      @CliffuckingBooth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly my point that Im always making.

    • @Eddiewarwolf
      @Eddiewarwolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gringofett3944 this actually makes way more sense.

    • @dreman999
      @dreman999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gringofett3944 but he is fallowing the code.

    • @kaisercollins3097
      @kaisercollins3097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They shit all on the cool Mandalorian lore.

  • @MassofBiscuits
    @MassofBiscuits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1791

    Bobafett calls himself a Mandalorian in the christmas special. Try again George

    • @SelvesteSand
      @SelvesteSand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Right, because that's not exactly what an imposter would say...

    • @scoutst3r
      @scoutst3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@SelvesteSand would a real mandalorian not specify that he was a mandalorian

    • @chheray1705
      @chheray1705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Gregory Sullivan have you watched ANY of the shows bro? Literally almost ALL the mandalorians have shown their faces. I dunno where this “can’t take off their helmet” came from

    • @goji253
      @goji253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @Gregory Sullivan
      How's that information in any way accurate? The only ones in new canon that follow the rule are the Mandalorians in "The Mandalorian". For all we know, that rule may have only come about AFTER the great purge. That or it is clan specific. This rule was clearly not in place during the times or the Clone Wars or the early years of the empire.

    • @darcybissonpullen7125
      @darcybissonpullen7125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      does the Christmas one count

  • @EvlEgle
    @EvlEgle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The only reason fetts armor is or was durasteel is because beskar hadn't been conjured up by EU writers yet.

    • @zachusthegreat1528
      @zachusthegreat1528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      51 likes and no comments

    • @sawyerwelle
      @sawyerwelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah and mandalorians like death watch didnt have pure beskar armor

  • @GHFrankie
    @GHFrankie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1882

    The only reason that there's an entire lore created on the Mandalorians is because of Boba Fett! If he is not a Mandalorian, then it could be argued that Luke is not a Jedi either, since he wasn't raised to be one nor has he received the traditional training of one - in fact, his entire existence is a violation of the Jedi code as the son of a Jedi since they're not allowed to bear children.
    EDIT: As of Dec 4, 2020, Mandalorian S02E06 confirmed that both Jango and Boba are true mandalorians.

    • @JoshMcCrae
      @JoshMcCrae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      That's a really solid argument dude, underrated comment. Take my like stranger!

    • @brainplay8060
      @brainplay8060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Not really. Most of the old lore is now retconned. The new stuff springs from Jango and the actual Mandalorian associates he brought to help train the clones. Boba has no connection to the Mandalorians at all except through his father as he's just a clone. With the pre-mature death of his father and his behavior throughout the series it's obvious that Boba was never brought up in Mandalorian culture. Jango on the other hand has plenty of incentive to mimic being a Mandalorian. It gives him a boost to his reputation which was probably needed when he first started out and later added to his mythos. The armor is also very pragmatic with it covering vital points and incorporating plenty of offensive weaponry.
      Understand that the Death Watch would have been in disarray as the pacifist New Mandalorians would have already been in power at the time so pretending to be one would have been a lot easier.

    • @Watcher-in-the-Dark
      @Watcher-in-the-Dark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@brainplay8060 That's the thing though, Mandalorian is a culture. Living as if you are Mandalorian makes you one. You don't need to be brought up in the Culture, just follow their codes. Jango and Bobba as far as I'm aware has done nothing to dishonor them the title of a Mandalorian. The only thing you could argue is maybe them not knowing the Mandalorian language as that's one major part of being considered Mandalorian. However I don't believe its ever stated that they don't know the language, which if Jango was at all within in the Culture he probably knew enough and Bobba probably would have learned atleast some from Jango before his death.

    • @GHFrankie
      @GHFrankie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@brainplay8060 That is my point - it never should've been retconned. The new lore is a mess! Mandalorians should've stayed a multi racial tribal culture instead of an actual race.

    • @boxtupos7718
      @boxtupos7718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@brainplay8060 Wasn't the reason for Jango wanting a son is for him to pass on the Mandalorian teaching to someone like how his adoptive father raised him; So that the clan of Fett still continue even after his death.

  • @barbrabreen5299
    @barbrabreen5299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    This is like kicking the the guy who started the band out. That word only came into existence because of Fett.

    • @romanking1202
      @romanking1202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The fetts even have a canonical history in the e.u legends in the old republic era... they were the ones to outfit the mandalorians in a more uniformed style that fashioned into the known neo crusaders of which my favorite mandalorian of all time came to pass " Canderous Ordo aka Mandalore the preserver "

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@romanking1202 thank to disney... Fett was not important since he was originally to sell more toy for star war...

    • @romanking1202
      @romanking1202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@campkira they're insane and totally disrespectful...

  • @s2kkyle
    @s2kkyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    It's like they wanna ruin all the old characters.

    • @loganmenchaca
      @loganmenchaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts!

    • @smileyShiiZniTZ
      @smileyShiiZniTZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well, it came from the mouth of Lucas.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smileyShiiZniTZ you really think it was his opinion or his idea, he was just doing what they asked him to do probably as a compromise for using some of his other ideas since everyone wanted him to consult others and let others have their say instead of just leaving full control in his hands where it had been prospering for a long long time

    • @ReddCrystal
      @ReddCrystal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How does this? He's.....Mandalorians are in-fighting assholes who barely manage to get anything done! How is boba NOT being a mandalorain (Which, mind you, wasn't a Disney choice) make him worse. He's still a badass bounty hunter.

    • @rodrickhatton8636
      @rodrickhatton8636 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! Its fuckin bullshit. Disney is tearing it to shreds...and George...dude needs to sit down.
      You sold the property...just stop guy.

  • @thelonevaultwanderer673
    @thelonevaultwanderer673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    The Fetts are the reason anyone started to give any interest into the Mandalorians, show respect where it’s due

    • @MrBargill
      @MrBargill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Lone Vault Wanderer exactly!!!

    • @cullenseago1519
      @cullenseago1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What? Prior to some of the books no one knew what he was it was just bounty hunter armor. I'd credit a few other sources with popularizing mandalorians. In fact KOTOR 1 and 2 brought more attention to Mandalorians than either Boba or Jango

    • @cullenseago1519
      @cullenseago1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Vinh N heck yes lol

    • @RichMoneyLTD
      @RichMoneyLTD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clout chasers

    • @cullenseago1519
      @cullenseago1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Thomas Hoffman apparent you cant read...