One thing I really appreciate is the lack of cursing. I was able to watch this with my 11 y/o son, who’s going to enter his first race at the end of the month. Both of us really enjoyed the content.
Your videos are all about being a smarter, more energy efficient rider, and that is super helpful! 2 hours is a long time to burn a limited amount of energy, and saving it while being fast is critical. Thanks!
If someone is coming up on me fast it’s obvious that they aren’t in my class and I make room for them to pass. If they were in my class they were going to pass me anyway.
Excellent video. Having not entered a race as of yet these videos are invaluable and allow me to visualize different and more energy efficient lines. Keep em coming!
Thank you so much for doing these videos. I got my bike, spending time getting used to it, signed up for my local race series and Lord willing will make it out to a race this year. Never gonna ride my BRP as fast as you do, but happy to learn all the skills and tricks I can.
@@fastguysslowbikes oh no the AMA is saying no to helmet cams? I had not heard about this, but sounds ridiculous. I will be honest I hate all the political crap that gets mixed into everything and how they want to control racers as if racer should grovel at there feet and be happy a race happens. The racers are the only reason races happen....period.
I ride but I'm new to any scramble type racing. I did not realize how many different lines there are to take and how much time can be gained or lost from a small line change. these videos are great. I cant wait to sign up for a race
Thank you for posting this and giving us your perspective and pointers. I pull over all the time and let people by. These are long races and I'm not scorching any lap times. The exception being, you are in my class and it's close to the end of the race. In that case I concede nothing.
You are best teacher we could have Thanks for taking the time and break it all down. I second the body position part of the Lesson its just as important as good lines
Great video. I just did my first race last month in Wisconsin but the track is suprisingly similar to the one you're running in this video. Sandy woods trails and a torturous sand 'motocross track'
I paid to race too man, our flow is just as important as yours, with that being said gimme a “Whoop Whoop” Ill acknowledge, and Ill give you an easy line.
I understand. I don't want to interrupt anyone's race more than I have to. After doing this for 20+ years I can definitely say that if I have to pass you like I'm racing against you it could be way more of an interruption. Another thing to think about is that when you let a faster rider by, you get to try to match their speed and it can be beneficial to your times.
When you are recording your race, do you use a gopro? If so, what is your average battery length till it dies? Or, do you plug it into an external battery? Thanks, enjoyed your video.
Yes this is a gopro. At 1080P and 60 frames per second it's usually about an hour and 10 minutes. But rarely do people watch more than 6 minutes of video.
Man i tell u what we don't have alotta sand up here in the PNW..THOUGH WE HAVE ALOTTA SAND/ DESERT IN EASTERN WASHINGTON ..that deep sand is such a energy drainer when your already tired..OMG ..I LEARNED THE HARD WAY BY TASTING THE QUILTY OF THE SAND SEVERAL TIMES LAST TIME I RODE IN IT..SO TUFF
Nice video you watch NorCal cycling lol. Seems like that style which is the best! I got a 2020 kx250f curious on yiur thoughts on MX bikes for these type of races.
I was behind a guy at a race who was not in my class and he would NOT move. I tried cutting a corner far inside and ended up tearing my ACL and breaking my tibia. moral of the story, just move over for a second and let the faster guys pass
Because it's deep enough for your foot pegs to be dragging through it. There could also be someone stuck in it at the exit. So if you go in the entrance of it you can be stuck behind them.
Wow! I have seen a lot of vids on youtube and I really appreciate they way you broke down your lane choices. I hope you do this on all the races coming up. I would love to see an enduro broke down like you did this race. Are you going to perry mountain this year? I will say being a master c rider you have helped me for sure.
No I am not allowed at any Perry mountain races. They banned me for getting a refund through PayPal for a race that I pre-entered for and didn't want to drive up there on the waiting list.
that venue looks incredible! wish we had places like that in England. in regards to the shouting at slower riders, i think it ruins the sportsmanship. if someone is a better/faster rider they should be able to find a a way around. in last weeks race alot of the faster riders were shouting at slower ones, like "get out the fucking way!" or "fucks sake MOOOVE!" in areas where people were getting stuck on a log and there was already a queue of riders or where there was nowhere to pass. its supposed to be fun, no one is getting paid to ride, no one is sponsored and it puts off new or slower riders. i have no problem with someone shouting excuse me, on the left/right, or blipping the throttle to make you aware they're right behind you, but the abuse is pathetic. the organisers actually docked a championship rider a lap for shouting at people last week.
The faster riders CAN get around. But could you imagine if all the faster riders were putting racing passes on slower riders? Would you rather me whistle at you, or come in and take your line as if I'm racing against you?
The whistle is fine, though i’ve never known a racer in England whistle. As i said a quick shout or rev is fine, but riders last weekend were just swearing at people. Which wouldn’t be so much of an issue if it was because riders holding them up weren’t pulling over to let them pass. They were coming into sections where theres one single line and of someone crashes or gets stuck/stalls everyone has to wait regardless. Yet twats behind where still shouting. Our races are not like GNCC where theres loads of lines and you can ride anywhere within 20feet of the orange markers. Its often a single line, in a venue thats been ridden multiple times a year, every year for decades so the lines are cut in like a ditch or gully.
@@danhopkinson2811 if they stall they should immediately get off their bike and push to the side of the trail. Immediately. Not try to start it a few times first. If they're getting yelled at they were probably being a pain in the ass. The more advanced riders have been doing this a long time. We know how many opportunities you had to yield.
Did you not read a single word i just wrote? THERE IS NO SIDE OF THE TRAIL. If you stall, crash, get caught up in a rut or on a log there is no getting out of the way. Its a SINGLE line. You don’t seem to be understanding what i’m saying. Riders have come from an open field, into a narrow wooded section so obviously its going to bottle neck. One rider gets it wrong and EVERYONE has to wait. Then there was some dickheads shouting at people, it wasn’t their fault, they were held up to. There was no opportunity to yield if the championship riders haven’t made a pass in the open fields. That is why the event organisers warned several faster riders and docked a lap from one rider who was warned and continued to shout and swear through the remainder of the race. It if wasn’t uncalled for the organisers would let it slide.
And sure, you may think those slower riders are a pain in the ass, but they are racing their race to. If you want a race where you don’t have to deal with much lap traffic do sprints or motocross. Otherwise you just have to accept the fact you are racing with people of all abilities, all on the track at the same time. I’ve been doing this a long time to, which is why I know there was no chance to yield
First I got a lot out of that video very unique really. Anyway race etiquette, so at the start of a race stuck in really tight single line, no place to pass and you’re trapped behind people in your class. Another guy (probably in your class) behind you reving and yelling. I’m of the opinion he can pack sand. I’m trapped behind dudes I know I’m faster then just no place to get by should I let the dude behind me pass me so he can get caught behind the dudes I’m caught by? I’m thinking oh hell no
Which part of the video are you referring to? Sometimes if I'm yelling it's becasue the guy two bikes ahead is in a different class and needs to yield so me and the one in front of me can keep racing.
@@fastguysslowbikes not really referring to your video. But you brought it up a couple of times. So I figured I’d get an opinion of a fast guy. the scenario that I typed was related to a race I was in this past weekend in Prescott AZ. Found myself stuck (no place to pass very narrow technical single track) right on the rear of 3-4 dudes I was obviously faster then. Another guy gets behind me and starts screaming to get out of the way. Well I have no idea weather I should yield to him because I can’t get to my race speed because of the people in front of me so I can’t really gauge weather I’m holding up the guy behind me or not. For that matter I can’t really say that I’m faster then the two guys in front of me because they are obviously being held up by the guy in front of them. I don’t think there is anything I can do but hang in. Turns out I dusted all of them at the first hill climb but I’m just curious given that situation what’s race etiquette there?
One thing I really appreciate is the lack of cursing. I was able to watch this with my 11 y/o son, who’s going to enter his first race at the end of the month. Both of us really enjoyed the content.
I would like to see one where you explain what you're doing on the bike ,body position , more info the better, these videos are awesome.
Ryan Hughes explains body position. Good luck in the races.
Your videos are all about being a smarter, more energy efficient rider, and that is super helpful! 2 hours is a long time to burn a limited amount of energy, and saving it while being fast is critical. Thanks!
That's really what it's all about. once you lose too much energy you're just bouncing around trying to get to the finish line.
If someone is coming up on me fast it’s obvious that they aren’t in my class and I make room for them to pass. If they were in my class they were going to pass me anyway.
Excellent video. Having not entered a race as of yet these videos are invaluable and allow me to visualize different and more energy efficient lines. Keep em coming!
I like this format.
Thank you so much for doing these videos. I got my bike, spending time getting used to it, signed up for my local race series and Lord willing will make it out to a race this year. Never gonna ride my BRP as fast as you do, but happy to learn all the skills and tricks I can.
Glad the help. Be patient with me until the AMA figures out this helmet cam rule bullstuff.
@@fastguysslowbikes oh no the AMA is saying no to helmet cams? I had not heard about this, but sounds ridiculous. I will be honest I hate all the political crap that gets mixed into everything and how they want to control racers as if racer should grovel at there feet and be happy a race happens. The racers are the only reason races happen....period.
Well explaind! Love your pace.
I ride but I'm new to any scramble type racing. I did not realize how many different lines there are to take and how much time can be gained or lost from a small line change. these videos are great. I cant wait to sign up for a race
Thanks for the commentary. A lot of good info and tips, and strategy.
Thank you for posting this and giving us your perspective and pointers. I pull over all the time and let people by. These are long races and I'm not scorching any lap times. The exception being, you are in my class and it's close to the end of the race. In that case I concede nothing.
Please do more of these. Thank you.
You are best teacher we could have
Thanks for taking the time and break it all down.
I second the body position part of the Lesson its just as important as good lines
This is really awesome, I have a 1998 XR 250 that I've been building and really want to try racing hairscrambles with it.
This is a really good video about line selection.
Great video one of the best coaching videos I’ve seen
Fantastic video. Much thanks
Are you simply throttling more on the first whoop to get over the second? Just a blimp or do you try and load the forks? 31:57
Thank you much for taking the time and sharing.. Very much so..
Thank you for the tips. very good stuff to take note of. But dang you can scan the trail quick. I need to work at that
Thanks
I consider myself coached,but too fast for this old guy,thanks for the tips:)
Excellent video. You ride like I do. I've tried to explain it to some guys, but maybe I'll just refer them to your video.
This was really good. Like the format....subscribed
Hey thanks. I'd love to do more of these but the HS series is blocking helmet cams right now. And it's hard to give tips for the single track enduros.
Love your vids man. Keep em coming.
The instruction is excellent! Love this type of video!
Dude this video is amazing!! So much information that I want to incorporate into my racing and riding! Thank you so much for doing this
Damn that’s some good riding you guys have out there in FL
Awesome video, need more I've been hoping you would do instructional videos, thank you!!
Great video. I just did my first race last month in Wisconsin but the track is suprisingly similar to the one you're running in this video. Sandy woods trails and a torturous sand 'motocross track'
Good lord you make it look so easy. Sorry for the cliche!
I paid to race too man, our flow is just as important as yours, with that being said gimme a “Whoop Whoop” Ill acknowledge, and Ill give you an easy line.
I understand. I don't want to interrupt anyone's race more than I have to. After doing this for 20+ years I can definitely say that if I have to pass you like I'm racing against you it could be way more of an interruption.
Another thing to think about is that when you let a faster rider by, you get to try to match their speed and it can be beneficial to your times.
Thank you for the coaching. I will be starting FTR this Fall
Great. Come say hi at an event.
Great ride. Stay safe.
Yelling at slower riders: Dude, leaving the horn on my enduro rig was the best decision ever. one polite beep yields epic results!!
You can’t use a horn. Not legal
It's seems to be sharp vision is important, especially with this track.
Any tips for off the bike preparation?
Hydrate, stretch a lot, eat clean, lots of seat time
When you are recording your race, do you use a gopro? If so, what is your average battery length till it dies? Or, do you plug it into an external battery? Thanks, enjoyed your video.
Yes this is a gopro. At 1080P and 60 frames per second it's usually about an hour and 10 minutes. But rarely do people watch more than 6 minutes of video.
@@fastguysslowbikes i usually watch the whole thing. I appreciate your reply
These are excellent, thank you!
Any tips of how to get into GNCC racing? I've been wanting to do this since I was a kid.
You just go to a race and race
@@fastguysslowbikes that's a solid bit of advice, thanks, I think I'm going to go down to a dealer and buy a bike. My credit is finally good
Follow the proper registration process
Need to do a “How to whistle” video! That’s a powerful whistle lol
Where in Florida is this?
Palatka
Pruitt Mountain Adventures - Caledonia, Mo - new MX - 4 wheeler Park - Hare Scrambles - Enduro - Moto Cross - Super Cross Tracks coming SOON. - RACE & Training Facility 900 Acres
So what you're saying is brand name tear offs make you faster.
looks like Paul might benefit from suspension setup in the whoops
I've ridden Paul's bike, it's spot on.
There is no such thing as suspension that can make whoops that big easy.
@@fastguysslowbikes good to hear
If you don't mind me asking what gearing are you running on your 250 ?
Stock
Man i tell u what we don't have alotta sand up here in the PNW..THOUGH WE HAVE ALOTTA SAND/ DESERT IN EASTERN WASHINGTON ..that deep sand is such a energy drainer when your already tired..OMG ..I LEARNED THE HARD WAY BY TASTING THE QUILTY OF THE SAND SEVERAL TIMES LAST TIME I RODE IN IT..SO TUFF
I watched your race vid and thought what an intelligent rider you are. Now I know it's true 😁
Also a very smooth rider.
where is the 1995 XR 600R :-(
It will be back Nov 8th!
@@fastguysslowbikes FTR racing again? Awesome!!
Good stuff, thanks!
Nice video you watch NorCal cycling lol. Seems like that style which is the best! I got a 2020 kx250f curious on yiur thoughts on MX bikes for these type of races.
50-90% of bikes at any off road race will be MX bikes with some hand guards.
@@fastguysslowbikes exactly what I have just contemplating on a 18” wheel already know I need suspension revalve
Is this just a stock motor 250fx?
Yes
Croom is fun on an atv but too much sand for me. That sugar sand is hellacious to ride through
Great video....
I was behind a guy at a race who was not in my class and he would NOT move. I tried cutting a corner far inside and ended up tearing my ACL and breaking my tibia. moral of the story, just move over for a second and let the faster guys pass
why is the rut slower than the outside line at 23:34?
Because it's deep enough for your foot pegs to be dragging through it. There could also be someone stuck in it at the exit. So if you go in the entrance of it you can be stuck behind them.
Is this hogwaller mudbog?
bro im tryin to lisen to 2 conversations at once at the start ahah
The Swiss Cheese mod should help with that clutch. Operative word is “should.”
Wow! I have seen a lot of vids on youtube and I really appreciate they way you broke down your lane choices. I hope you do this on all the races coming up. I would love to see an enduro broke down like you did this race. Are you going to perry mountain this year?
I will say being a master c rider you have helped me for sure.
No I am not allowed at any Perry mountain races.
They banned me for getting a refund through PayPal for a race that I pre-entered for and didn't want to drive up there on the waiting list.
Great job on the video, but how does everybody know what class everybody else is in so easily? Sorry I’ve only raced a local hare scramble once.
Our bikes have different color number plate backgrounds and letters.
@@lumberjake_arborist oh thanks dude, and fast! Hope you have good races to come.
Nice commentary.
Awesome video and new sub here!!!
Was that somebody's seat at 15:16? Oof!
Not that easy to get over when the course is tight
that venue looks incredible! wish we had places like that in England.
in regards to the shouting at slower riders, i think it ruins the sportsmanship. if someone is a better/faster rider they should be able to find a a way around.
in last weeks race alot of the faster riders were shouting at slower ones, like "get out the fucking way!" or "fucks sake MOOOVE!"
in areas where people were getting stuck on a log and there was already a queue of riders or where there was nowhere to pass. its supposed to be fun, no one is getting paid to ride, no one is sponsored and it puts off new or slower riders.
i have no problem with someone shouting excuse me, on the left/right, or blipping the throttle to make you aware they're right behind you, but the abuse is pathetic.
the organisers actually docked a championship rider a lap for shouting at people last week.
The faster riders CAN get around. But could you imagine if all the faster riders were putting racing passes on slower riders?
Would you rather me whistle at you, or come in and take your line as if I'm racing against you?
The whistle is fine, though i’ve never known a racer in England whistle.
As i said a quick shout or rev is fine, but riders last weekend were just swearing at people.
Which wouldn’t be so much of an issue if it was because riders holding them up weren’t pulling over to let them pass.
They were coming into sections where theres one single line and of someone crashes or gets stuck/stalls everyone has to wait regardless. Yet twats behind where still shouting.
Our races are not like GNCC where theres loads of lines and you can ride anywhere within 20feet of the orange markers.
Its often a single line, in a venue thats been ridden multiple times a year, every year for decades so the lines are cut in like a ditch or gully.
@@danhopkinson2811 if they stall they should immediately get off their bike and push to the side of the trail. Immediately. Not try to start it a few times first. If they're getting yelled at they were probably being a pain in the ass. The more advanced riders have been doing this a long time. We know how many opportunities you had to yield.
Did you not read a single word i just wrote? THERE IS NO SIDE OF THE TRAIL.
If you stall, crash, get caught up in a rut or on a log there is no getting out of the way. Its a SINGLE line. You don’t seem to be understanding what i’m saying. Riders have come from an open field, into a narrow wooded section so obviously its going to bottle neck. One rider gets it wrong and EVERYONE has to wait. Then there was some dickheads shouting at people, it wasn’t their fault, they were held up to. There was no opportunity to yield if the championship riders haven’t made a pass in the open fields.
That is why the event organisers warned several faster riders and docked a lap from one rider who was warned and continued to shout and swear through the remainder of the race.
It if wasn’t uncalled for the organisers would let it slide.
And sure, you may think those slower riders are a pain in the ass, but they are racing their race to.
If you want a race where you don’t have to deal with much lap traffic do sprints or motocross.
Otherwise you just have to accept the fact you are racing with people of all abilities, all on the track at the same time.
I’ve been doing this a long time to, which is why I know there was no chance to yield
Sunday is my first event ever. I know im gonna be pissing people off . putting sorry in advance on the back of my helmet😅
Lol.
where can we get those shirts? Great Vid, thanks.
I'm not sure what you mean. My racing jersey? Klim is the gear manufacturer.
Tear offs aren’t allowed in Oregon off-road races. Only roll-offs.
That's how it should be.
Where I ride the terrain is mostly hard pack , rocky and has big elevation changes, but these tips still apply.
Turn your radio off.
🤔😅
I suppose you can't use a horn? Thank god for that!
I had one mounted behind my number plate for years, a couple 9v batteries hooked to an extra kill switch to operate it, worked like a charm!
@@waylon360 Good setup. You could also mount a paintball-bottle with compressed air, hooked up to an air-horn, lol! Future project
First I got a lot out of that video very unique really. Anyway race etiquette, so at the start of a race stuck in really tight single line, no place to pass and you’re trapped behind people in your class. Another guy (probably in your class) behind you reving and yelling. I’m of the opinion he can pack sand. I’m trapped behind dudes I know I’m faster then just no place to get by should I let the dude behind me pass me so he can get caught behind the dudes I’m caught by? I’m thinking oh hell no
Which part of the video are you referring to?
Sometimes if I'm yelling it's becasue the guy two bikes ahead is in a different class and needs to yield so me and the one in front of me can keep racing.
@@fastguysslowbikes not really referring to your video. But you brought it up a couple of times. So I figured I’d get an opinion of a fast guy. the scenario that I typed was related to a race I was in this past weekend in Prescott AZ. Found myself stuck (no place to pass very narrow technical single track) right on the rear of 3-4 dudes I was obviously faster then. Another guy gets behind me and starts screaming to get out of the way. Well I have no idea weather I should yield to him because I can’t get to my race speed because of the people in front of me so I can’t really gauge weather I’m holding up the guy behind me or not. For that matter I can’t really say that I’m faster then the two guys in front of me because they are obviously being held up by the guy in front of them. I don’t think there is anything I can do but hang in. Turns out I dusted all of them at the first hill climb but I’m just curious given that situation what’s race etiquette there?
I can't imagine how anyone who used to have a 2 stroke and now is riding a flubby ass yzf 250.
These yz250fxs are the best bikes in the woods. Take my word for it.
@@fastguysslowbikes you are saying they're better than a KTM 300 xc-w? I think you're just a good rider and can make any bike go fast.
Assert dominance 😂
I've got a 97 xr 600r for sale if you or anyone is interested.
I use to watch you until you showed your true political colors. You could of ignored it but you made it a point to get political
You could have ignored it too
Jason Mahr You're not going to watch someone for pointing out how asinine it is to brainwash little kids with political rhetoric is pretty petty.
You complain a lot!
Are you complaining about my complaining?