Love the Prove-It idea! Bringing vendors and competitors together to showcase real-time interoperability is brilliant. It immediately exposes those who don't fully embrace Industry 4.0, like Microsoft with its custom headers. This could be the most valuable conference, setting it apart from experiences like the Pharma keynote where OEMs didn’t consider connectivity. Fantastic concept!
+1 for the PROVE IT show ❤ thanks for coming at Hannover, it was a resourcing experience, hearing your advices and seeing the manufacturing tech community gathered around the 4.0Solutions/Intellic team
It was great meeting you. ❤ Thank you for answering my questions in detail there. I remember you shared 3 tips for people to learn during litmus session and one was to learn containerisation, I forgot about the other two
I was there for two days as well, didn’t have the luck to bump into your team. Totally agree with your observation, after 10 years of Industrie 4.0 failed attempts in europe the tech geeks have discovered your UNS and as it works well they are pushing it hard into their organizations! Looking forward to meeting you at “Proove it 2024”
Great summary Walker. Glad to have met you at this weeks show all be it for a few minutes but will follow up with you around the ‘prove it’ theme idea I mentioned at the Litmus stand. Also suggest you take a look at Scheider electric who were in hall 11 they are decoupling their PLC runtime software from their various I/O platform plus they have built some apps for depolyment to Linux edge devices. Signifance being that this is the old guard embracing the new
I was also lucky to be there. Did try to find you and your team, but I did not manage to find you and your team. I’ve been lucky to have visited the Messe many times. You do see a change, though. I see way less ‘real’ manufacturing and way more services and fluff. Imagine that 10 years ago it was literally twice the size! I noticed a lot of poorly made demos that do not reflect (real) manufacturing at all. Still loved it, I mean, it is still really cool to be there! Siemens always has by far the largest booth, but I never really know what to look for at their stand. 100% agree with your statements. I enjoyed hall 15 the best, but still was a bit disappointed this year.
Thanks a lot for the great overview Walker. Learned a lot as usual. And seriously could not stop laughing at ... "If a vendor can't tell you how much it costs, f*&king run!".
Enjoyed this. Great info and insights. Have to stick up or Inductive though...IMO their building is nice, but not extravagant or wasteful. The previous building was like in strip mall and they needed to expand. Just for the sake of healthy debate: when you give the maker of a product your money, you get their product. That is an even exchange. What they do with their profit is their choice. That said, I do like to look at both sides of any point/issue - I had a friend who worked for a Consultancy (E&Y or someone like that), and they didn't want their consultants showing up at the client with an extravagant rental car. I get that. WRT your idea at the end: great idea
agreed. The building was suitable for them to grow into. IMO... but the back story of it.. they over extended themselves a bit to move into it and perhaps that's what's influencing Walker's opinion here. - Zack
Thanks for the update. Always enjoy your insights. Maybe one day I can go to Hannover Messe. I like the idea of the "Prove It" conference. This would be a major shift in my opinion of how end users deal with equipment providers. Typically end users have to take the word of someone, which we know most of the time is not always totally truthful and then to be shown solutions that actually do what they need. I'd compare this idea to your Industry 3.0 v Industry 4.0 Integrator video from several years ago. I'd also compare this to your "land and expand" software comments. This should be the way going forward between vendors and end users. It would be a better way for end users to get what they need and reduce their risk going forward.
Speaking on behalf of WAGO I love the “prove it” idea. I think this should be core premise of all major trade shows in this space going forward. We would be interested to attend.
Thanks for the report. I wonder how an OEM that has developed their machine HMIs in FactoryTalk View or WinCC, implement Tulip's co-pilot system into said HMIs? I mean to aid operators in running the machine more efficiently, or towards a specific task that isn't daily operation. I mean a basic breakdown of how this co-pilot system could be implemented. That would be an interesting video.
Love the "Prove it" idea but not just demos. You must bring your solution and connect to the ecosystem. 10 companies 10 use cases Each company get a use case Companies have to bring a model/test rig/simulator to publish data to the Show broker. Companies can showcase their solution, but can also apply their solution to the data from other companies. And of course publish back the relevant data The idea is to test the openness and speed of integration And of course anyone else can access the broker and use it to showcase their solution to use cases Needs some work as an idea.
One of the issues with the DX market is how products are developed. What you have are some extremely bright, talented, and earnest software engineers backed by a lot of $$$ (thereby marketing budgets to create buzz/noise) developing applications that they believe will solve problems on the plant floor without ever having worked on the plant floor. Very academic in their approach after having "studied" the problems.
Great video, thank you for the content. Curious about one technology mentioned as breakthrough tech, the IFM Bluetooth mesh. I thought Bluetooth was one of the more unreliable wireless communications due to the bandwidth it is allocated in? Is this a concern here with this new tech?
@@walkerreynolds973 Glad to see you got a deep dive on UMH they are doing some great things. Appreciate the update! Dell Native Edge definitely has our interest peaked.
Our take is that at first glance, at a technical level, it’s a step in the right direction and has potential. It requires a deep dive to give a firm opinion. The issue at Microsoft is strategy and approach. They are still building tech for sale, rather than starting with the problem and working their way back to the solution… and our talks at HM only reinforced that.
@@4.0Solutions would be much appreciated if you could share your point of view after you will have a deep dive. My take is that this evolving strategy with IoT Ops and Adaptive Cloud make way more sense. From preview of IoT operations, there are more out-of-box capabilities than others building blocks approach. The MQTT broker is on bar, the low-code/no-code edge data processing is impressive, the Akri offers great flexibility. I also heard great things of ADX these days. I have not seen an integrated demo between IoT Operations and their Fabric (& the manufacturing data solutions which is a ISA-95 data modal) and co-pilot templates, which could be very, very interesting.
Are you sure on that? On their website under connectors they have their IO-Link masters, their vse vibration boxes, and one more thing I can’t decrypt yet.
@@PhilippEchtelerbased on what they told us - yes. There will be inbound and outbound MQTT connectors. My point Is the tech is interesting - bluetooth mesh with IIoT Platform. Dumb sensors into smart sensors into platform. I am not advocating for the platform - I am saying it’s interesting. 🙏
@@walkerreynolds973 totally on your side. I know ifm from the competition side ;-) The invest they did in the platform is insane. How much value do you assign direct access to sensor data parallel to the plc‘s?
The problem is that the core industry players have a culture that will likely not take note of your objective criticism. In general Europeans have a lofty attitude that is not exactly an industry driver (may be it was in the 19th century).
@@4.0Solutions Persist. Educate. Keep making the right technical solutions (UNS). People are not blind it is just that here in the EU there is a lot of cultural burden and political debt.
Organizing an event centered on the practical application of Unified Name Space (UNS) and featuring specific use cases is a great idea 👍
Thanks for sharing!
Love the Prove-It idea! Bringing vendors and competitors together to showcase real-time interoperability is brilliant. It immediately exposes those who don't fully embrace Industry 4.0, like Microsoft with its custom headers. This could be the most valuable conference, setting it apart from experiences like the Pharma keynote where OEMs didn’t consider connectivity. Fantastic concept!
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I was there also, and was lucky to meet you😊 I agree with your oppinion and comments !
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+1 for the PROVE IT show ❤ thanks for coming at Hannover, it was a resourcing experience, hearing your advices and seeing the manufacturing tech community gathered around the 4.0Solutions/Intellic team
Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It was great meeting you. ❤ Thank you for answering my questions in detail there. I remember you shared 3 tips for people to learn during litmus session and one was to learn containerisation, I forgot about the other two
Containerization and stacks (Portainer is a good tool for this), Data Ops (HighByte), Snowflake
+1 for the PROVE IT show!
Thank you!
We got a bog standard Azure IoT instance setup by Cognizant, who was great at billable hours. We shut it all down after a year.
So disappointed in them
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I was there for two days as well, didn’t have the luck to bump into your team. Totally agree with your observation, after 10 years of Industrie 4.0 failed attempts in europe the tech geeks have discovered your UNS and as it works well they are pushing it hard into their organizations! Looking forward to meeting you at “Proove it 2024”
Thank you Stefan!
Great to meet you there. Another vote for Prove it!
Thank you!
The conference idea would be excellent
Thank you!
Great summary Walker. Glad to have met you at this weeks show all be it for a few minutes but will follow up with you around the ‘prove it’ theme idea I mentioned at the Litmus stand. Also suggest you take a look at Scheider electric who were in hall 11 they are decoupling their PLC runtime software from their various I/O platform plus they have built some apps for depolyment to Linux edge devices. Signifance being that this is the old guard embracing the new
🙏 You can DM me on LinkedIn and set something up.
Great update!
Glad you enjoyed it!!
I was also lucky to be there. Did try to find you and your team, but I did not manage to find you and your team.
I’ve been lucky to have visited the Messe many times. You do see a change, though. I see way less ‘real’ manufacturing and way more services and fluff. Imagine that 10 years ago it was literally twice the size!
I noticed a lot of poorly made demos that do not reflect (real) manufacturing at all. Still loved it, I mean, it is still really cool to be there! Siemens always has by far the largest booth, but I never really know what to look for at their stand. 100% agree with your statements. I enjoyed hall 15 the best, but still was a bit disappointed this year.
Thanks a lot for the great overview Walker. Learned a lot as usual. And seriously could not stop laughing at ... "If a vendor can't tell you how much it costs, f*&king run!".
Thank you Emile!
Great work!
Thank you Lachlan!
Enjoyed this. Great info and insights. Have to stick up or Inductive though...IMO their building is nice, but not extravagant or wasteful. The previous building was like in strip mall and they needed to expand. Just for the sake of healthy debate: when you give the maker of a product your money, you get their product. That is an even exchange. What they do with their profit is their choice. That said, I do like to look at both sides of any point/issue - I had a friend who worked for a Consultancy (E&Y or someone like that), and they didn't want their consultants showing up at the client with an extravagant rental car. I get that. WRT your idea at the end: great idea
agreed. The building was suitable for them to grow into. IMO... but the back story of it.. they over extended themselves a bit to move into it and perhaps that's what's influencing Walker's opinion here. - Zack
Thanks for the update. Always enjoy your insights. Maybe one day I can go to Hannover Messe. I like the idea of the "Prove It" conference. This would be a major shift in my opinion of how end users deal with equipment providers. Typically end users have to take the word of someone, which we know most of the time is not always totally truthful and then to be shown solutions that actually do what they need. I'd compare this idea to your Industry 3.0 v Industry 4.0 Integrator video from several years ago. I'd also compare this to your "land and expand" software comments. This should be the way going forward between vendors and end users. It would be a better way for end users to get what they need and reduce their risk going forward.
I appreciate you Chris! Great feedback!
The Prove It idea is brilliant! I will go to that and tell everyone I know to go.
Thank you! 🙏
Speaking on behalf of WAGO I love the “prove it” idea. I think this should be core premise of all major trade shows in this space going forward. We would be interested to attend.
I’ll be publishing the announcement video on Monday 4/29 - 🙏
Thank you!
Yes on the Prove It event
Let’s do it!
Like your T-Shirt „Lord of the Things“ from HiveMQ.
LOL
Yes please please do "Prove it"
We are kicking around the idea internally! (I'm really excited about this) - Zack 🙂
Thanks for the report. I wonder how an OEM that has developed their machine HMIs in FactoryTalk View or WinCC, implement Tulip's co-pilot system into said HMIs? I mean to aid operators in running the machine more efficiently, or towards a specific task that isn't daily operation. I mean a basic breakdown of how this co-pilot system could be implemented. That would be an interesting video.
Tulip and Rockwell just partnered to have tulip apps inside a Rockwell panel view HMId
Love the "Prove it" idea but not just demos.
You must bring your solution and connect to the ecosystem.
10 companies
10 use cases
Each company get a use case
Companies have to bring a model/test rig/simulator to publish data to the Show broker.
Companies can showcase their solution, but can also apply their solution to the data from other companies. And of course publish back the relevant data
The idea is to test the openness and speed of integration
And of course anyone else can access the broker and use it to showcase their solution to use cases
Needs some work as an idea.
Love it!
One of the issues with the DX market is how products are developed. What you have are some extremely bright, talented, and earnest software engineers backed by a lot of $$$ (thereby marketing budgets to create buzz/noise) developing applications that they believe will solve problems on the plant floor without ever having worked on the plant floor. Very academic in their approach after having "studied" the problems.
Thank you for the Insight Michael!
Great video, thank you for the content.
Curious about one technology mentioned as breakthrough tech, the IFM Bluetooth mesh. I thought Bluetooth was one of the more unreliable wireless communications due to the bandwidth it is allocated in? Is this a concern here with this new tech?
It looked impressive in demo and we have plans to do a deep dive and report on the results
0:00 Walker, why do you wait a few seconds (at the intro) when you are recording locally instantly? lol
lol - habit
You mentioned UMH but I think you got sidetracked before discussing. Hope to hear your thoughts on their work and progress soon.
I have another video coming out where I will talk about UMH specifically - probably Sunday.
@@walkerreynolds973
Glad to see you got a deep dive on UMH they are doing some great things. Appreciate the update! Dell Native Edge definitely has our interest peaked.
Hi thanks for sharing. What’s your take of MSFT’s recent announcement on IoT Operations, Mfg data solutions on Fabric and co-pilot template?
Our take is that at first glance, at a technical level, it’s a step in the right direction and has potential. It requires a deep dive to give a firm opinion. The issue at Microsoft is strategy and approach. They are still building tech for sale, rather than starting with the problem and working their way back to the solution… and our talks at HM only reinforced that.
@@4.0Solutions would be much appreciated if you could share your point of view after you will have a deep dive. My take is that this evolving strategy with IoT Ops and Adaptive Cloud make way more sense. From preview of IoT operations, there are more out-of-box capabilities than others building blocks approach. The MQTT broker is on bar, the low-code/no-code edge data processing is impressive, the Akri offers great flexibility. I also heard great things of ADX these days. I have not seen an integrated demo between IoT Operations and their Fabric (& the manufacturing data solutions which is a ISA-95 data modal) and co-pilot templates, which could be very, very interesting.
You mentioned IFM early on in the video is their Moneo platform a UNS? I’m still learning all this.
It isn’t a UNS but it can consume from a UNS.
Are you sure on that?
On their website under connectors they have their IO-Link masters, their vse vibration boxes, and one more thing I can’t decrypt yet.
@@PhilippEchtelerbased on what they told us - yes. There will be inbound and outbound MQTT connectors. My point Is the tech is interesting - bluetooth mesh with IIoT Platform. Dumb sensors into smart sensors into platform. I am not advocating for the platform - I am saying it’s interesting. 🙏
@@walkerreynolds973 totally on your side. I know ifm from the competition side ;-)
The invest they did in the platform is insane.
How much value do you assign direct access to sensor data parallel to the plc‘s?
The problem is that the core industry players have a culture that will likely not take note of your objective criticism. In general Europeans have a lofty attitude that is not exactly an industry driver (may be it was in the 19th century).
What would you say the solution is?
@@4.0Solutions Persist. Educate. Keep making the right technical solutions (UNS). People are not blind it is just that here in the EU there is a lot of cultural burden and political debt.
If they cant tell you how much it costs, fn run! -- Make 'em prove it
Thank you!