Jeff, the drive motor needs a jackshaft to reduce the speed by at least a half the RPM it is now running the flywheel at, at that speed it will break the blade bar. It's great that you've rescued and are reusing that mighty "John Heine" machine, they made good gear.
Ohh So scary with that rapid automation. As a tech teacher I loved the one foot/ one slice pedal action on the Guillotine with all the guards in place and no loss of limbs or blood. Ten thousand students later i have turned grey but certainly not grumpy. Love your lessons Jeff
I remember visiting Westly Richards gunmakers in Selly Oak, Birmingham, UK just out of curiosity as they’ve been in business since 1812. What I did not expect was to work into a Dickensian time warp. I pushed the old rickety door open and had to duck under the wide strap running across the face of the opening. The whole room had these straps (can’t remember if they were rubber or canvas) strewn across the room in all directions connected to various machines. Clearly, their equipment was probably close to original as it gets. Gun making hasn’t changed for hundreds of years after all. Westly Richards are considered to be up there with the best London guns like Boss, Purdey etc which make be a proud Brummie. Nothing like quality craftsmanship to warm your cockles :)
When I was a young apprentice sheet metal worker 1965-1970 I operated a guillotine very similar to yours almost every day, the major difference it was foot operated with a treadle i.e no power , I cut the surplus from small 9” square pressed panels, literally hundreds of thousands of them 😩 brings back fond memories of my youth 👍
I love seeing videos of old industrial machinery being brought back but I am having to live vicariously -my garage is bursting at the seams as it is. Someday, when my ship comes in I want a 30 X 40 foot garage. Nicely done and congrats
Heating the cast iron before welding is crucial and it's great that you did it. But it is also important to allow it to cool down again very slowly. Wrap it in a pile old gardening/welding gloves and a thick blanket on top. Leave it till the next day. The table surfaces will look great sanded back and polished, then coated in oil to prevent rust.
I’m impressed with your ingenuity, figuring out and repairing such an old piece of equipment. We had a couple of shears that could cut 8:foot sheets longways. They were monsters!
Hmmm nice finger guards next on the list I think and a trip switch to stop leaving guard up...doing the alferrari I bet will be a bit difficult with a few digits missing.
I used to work at a printing company during school holidays. There was a guillotine there that used to slice through hundreds of sheets of paper like it was nothing. I still remember the sound. It was taken away every so often for sharpening. Have you worked that out? Great old machine.
Nice one again Jeff ! Maybe you could want to slow the movement and increase the cutting force by using a bigger ratio on your belt. Looks scary fast at the moment for a home shop!
Soo cool! So much better than the grinder! Love these off topic vids..you are saving cars and machines! Congrats on Harry!...so close to being on the road!
Hey man Kevin here. F_ _ _ k that's scary but you know you gotta restore it. Anyhoo thankyou so much for sharing Jeff stay safe and stay well. ✌ Peace. 🌻
I think that part of the (runnaway) problem is that it cuts a bit fast, my father in law has an old Russian machine and my friend has a new one and they both cut slower than yours, about 40-50% slower. Maybe look at videos of different machines working and change pulleys to reduce the flywheel speed. Hope it helps.
I think many would have just sold it for scrap, but no you did the right thing no manual work out how it should work and saved a real useful historic machine.
I've got a really old power hacksaw that has been converted from overhead belt to electric motor. It was going to be sold for scrap. Cost me $100 Australian. Made by Stewarts I couldn't resist it just for the name.
You have two things to do. It will break the pin again because maintenance is a big factor in its operation and the motor drive is too fast. It needs to be geared slower or a motor that spins slower. Cool piece of equipment though.
Evening Jeff I enjoyed your video I’ve just got a John Heine 36B and I having a problem with the adjustment of the blade . It’s very similar to yours would you have any information on how it’s setup/ adjusted ect. Thanks Ted
G'day from West Australia, Jeff as a very young child these and many other old school machines were powered by steam engine's, Dad used to take me around to all his old school trade friend's to see them in action, be it folders rollers what ever the machists needed for there trade!!! Glad to see some of these old machines will not only survive, but actually help create once again, on ya buddy😉🙂👍👍
I saw those steam powered workshops when I was a kid my dad took me to a few they powered loads of heavy duty tools that way belts powered by a steam engine, we used to have a big steem rally every year on one of the parks near my gran's house and they showed them in so many trades from farming to fire service it's amazing how time changes the world we live in.
got the same powered guillotine, john hein it should run slower than that, and mine has a very thick front gaurd piece that comes down first to hold the metal, i wish i had the front strut things you have, mine has a homemade backstop on it too.. its up the back if my workshop and i need to get it going again!... cheers
Hi Geoff love your videos mate I live Australia and I’ve purchased the same guillotine and I need to buy a motor for it can you tell me the horse power and kilowatts any specs would be appreciated
WAYYYY too much speed on the pulley combo with this setup...Although its WAY faster than my manual stomp shear haha. You should be aiming for around 20 strokes per minute MAX! With this age of machine I'd shoot for a full cycle every 5 seconds and it will last another hundred years! Good work though saving an old machine! Love it!
Jeff, I have a manual foot pedal guillotine about the sam age F.J. Edwards which has the same half round indent in the middle like yours, Is this for a roller to move sheets back & forth if you know can you drop me a comment. Cheers Dave
Lovely old thing Jeff, hopefully a man of your talent will fit two switches instead of the foot pedal so you can't get your hands under the knife by accident; Mrs Jeff may love you but she probably won't want to be wiping your arse for you!
Jeff, the drive motor needs a jackshaft to reduce the speed by at least a half the RPM it is now running the flywheel at, at that speed it will break the blade bar.
It's great that you've rescued and are reusing that mighty "John Heine" machine, they made good gear.
I have the exact same machine... you have just saved me hours of trouble shooting! Thanks mate👍
Glad I could help.
Ohh So scary with that rapid automation. As a tech teacher I loved the one foot/ one slice pedal action on the Guillotine with all the guards in place and no loss of limbs or blood. Ten thousand students later i have turned grey but certainly not grumpy. Love your lessons Jeff
I remember visiting Westly Richards gunmakers in Selly Oak, Birmingham, UK just out of curiosity as they’ve been in business since 1812. What I did not expect was to work into a Dickensian time warp. I pushed the old rickety door open and had to duck under the wide strap running across the face of the opening. The whole room had these straps (can’t remember if they were rubber or canvas) strewn across the room in all directions connected to various machines. Clearly, their equipment was probably close to original as it gets. Gun making hasn’t changed for hundreds of years after all. Westly Richards are considered to be up there with the best London guns like Boss, Purdey etc which make be a proud Brummie. Nothing like quality craftsmanship to warm your cockles :)
When I was a young apprentice sheet metal worker 1965-1970 I operated a guillotine very similar to yours almost every day, the major difference it was foot operated with a treadle i.e no power , I cut the surplus from small 9” square pressed panels, literally hundreds of thousands of them 😩 brings back fond memories of my youth 👍
I love seeing videos of old industrial machinery being brought back but I am having to live vicariously -my garage is bursting at the seams as it is. Someday, when my ship comes in I want a 30 X 40 foot garage. Nicely done and congrats
Heating the cast iron before welding is crucial and it's great that you did it. But it is also important to allow it to cool down again very slowly. Wrap it in a pile old gardening/welding gloves and a thick blanket on top. Leave it till the next day.
The table surfaces will look great sanded back and polished, then coated in oil to prevent rust.
Good job Jeff! I found on my saw bench if you clean the table up (wire brush) and rub bees wax on it, it stops rust and gives a nice sliding surface
I’m impressed with your ingenuity, figuring out and repairing such an old piece of equipment. We had a couple of shears that could cut 8:foot sheets longways. They were monsters!
Hmmm nice finger guards next on the list I think and a trip switch to stop leaving guard up...doing the alferrari I bet will be a bit difficult with a few digits missing.
I used to work at a printing company during school holidays. There was a guillotine there that used to slice through hundreds of sheets of paper like it was nothing. I still remember the sound. It was taken away every so often for sharpening. Have you worked that out? Great old machine.
Imagine that fully restored and painted... it would be perfectly at home in a living room working as a piece of art.
Just the thing to keep your toddlers amused
Pashak de Scilly 😂😂😂
" It dices, it slices, it even makes julian fries!"
Restored? Yes, abosultely.
Painted? .... I like that patina though.
(All patinas are not necessarily good looking. This one is!)
Awesome! You learn something every day!
Wow, great piece of history - thanks for sharing and keeping it alive!
Fantastically interesting. I love machinery like this. Nice explanation of the workings. Very enjoyable “aside”. Thanks Jeff! 😊👍👍
I have the same John Heine only foot operated. Strong right leg after several cuts. Very solid machines and yes crazy heavy for the size.
Nice one again Jeff ! Maybe you could want to slow the movement and increase the cutting force by using a bigger ratio on your belt. Looks scary fast at the moment for a home shop!
Soo cool! So much better than the grinder! Love these off topic vids..you are saving cars and machines! Congrats on Harry!...so close to being on the road!
That thing is awesome! Great job getting it going again👍
Hey man Kevin here.
F_ _ _ k that's scary but you know you gotta restore it.
Anyhoo thankyou so much for sharing Jeff
stay safe and stay well.
✌ Peace. 🌻
Great video 👍 Jeff those front stays you use as support and front stops to get accurate cut's.
You should disassemble it and completely restore it. That would be cool to see.
Sweet. So long as the cast iron doesn't crack then as you say, it'll last forever 😊
I think that part of the (runnaway) problem is that it cuts a bit fast, my father in law has an old Russian machine and my friend has a new one and they both cut slower than yours, about 40-50% slower. Maybe look at videos of different machines working and change pulleys to reduce the flywheel speed. Hope it helps.
i second this, that is cutting far too fast. gearing down the motor should make your cuts less stressfull
Absolutely agree, needs speed reduced.
That is a great piece of kit .
Nice piece of history Jeff, just watch out for the fingers 🤙
You should paint it up Jeff!! Keep up the great show
I think many would have just sold it for scrap, but no you did the right thing no manual work out how it should work and saved a real useful historic machine.
So much better than all the throw away rubbish
Nice to see old machinery rescued from the scrap metal merchants.
thats awesome Jeff!
Chop, One nice cut... chop chop...Sometimes two... lol.
I've got a really old power hacksaw that has been converted from overhead belt to electric motor. It was going to be sold for scrap. Cost me $100 Australian. Made by Stewarts I couldn't resist it just for the name.
You have two things to do. It will break the pin again because maintenance is a big factor in its operation and the motor drive is too fast. It needs to be geared slower or a motor that spins slower. Cool piece of equipment though.
I was really hoping for a fun facts with Mrs Jeff on the guillotine!
wow, what a gem
Nice, congratulations!
what a fantastic piece of kit. I reckon it was originally driven by a static steam engine.
Oh boy here it comes again 😱
You don't want your fingers in the way of that. It's great to see these old machines built so they can be repaired not just thrown away
Evening Jeff I enjoyed your video I’ve just got a John Heine 36B and I having a problem with the adjustment of the blade . It’s very similar to yours would you have any information on how it’s setup/ adjusted ect. Thanks Ted
Beautiful old piece of tech there. Needs some proper paint. :)
Definitely looks to be running fast, can you put a smaller pulley on the motor?
Ready for the next revolution - good move
G'day from West Australia, Jeff as a very young child these and many other old school machines were powered by steam engine's,
Dad used to take me around to all his old school trade friend's to see them in action, be it folders rollers what ever the machists needed for there trade!!!
Glad to see some of these old machines will not only survive, but actually help create once again, on ya buddy😉🙂👍👍
I saw those steam powered workshops when I was a kid my dad took me to a few they powered loads of heavy duty tools that way belts powered by a steam engine, we used to have a big steem rally every year on one of the parks near my gran's house and they showed them in so many trades from farming to fire service it's amazing how time changes the world we live in.
@@mclarenjohnf1 very true, old days no bloody DICTATORSHIPS within this once great land😉🙂👍👍
Excellent mini project Jeff, are you going to paint it too or just leave it as it is?
got the same powered guillotine, john hein it should run slower than that, and mine has a very thick front gaurd piece that comes down first to hold the metal, i wish i had the front strut things you have, mine has a homemade backstop on it too.. its up the back if my workshop and i need to get it going again!... cheers
Excellent ! Ready for the revolution! Haha
nice bit of kit Mate
Nice old machine, he didn't have the backstop fence that slot into those round bosses on the back also?
Super interesting.
Nice Shear! Need a break!
Really interesting 👍
RESTORATION!!! RESTORATION!!!! RESTORATION!!!!
nice find!
Built to last.......was broken and I had to fix it. :)
Very interesting video.
awesome mate
I have a 1940s bench drill and lathe. 3 people to try and move it.
Excelente.
Hi Geoff love your videos mate I live Australia and I’ve purchased the same guillotine and I need to buy a motor for it can you tell me the horse power and kilowatts any specs would be appreciated
My pizza shop needs one. Do you think those buggers can cut a pizza slice all the way through?
No Fun Fact with Mrs.Jeff. Got to admit it hurt.
Paint it Ferrari red and a fly by wire pedal))
WAYYYY too much speed on the pulley combo with this setup...Although its WAY faster than my manual stomp shear haha. You should be aiming for around 20 strokes per minute MAX! With this age of machine I'd shoot for a full cycle every 5 seconds and it will last another hundred years! Good work though saving an old machine! Love it!
Just needs a lick of paint Jeff and a good clean up and like you say will last another 100 hundred years
I heard on the grapevine that Jeff has a new nickname . The Toecutter.
Take care about your fingers Jeff. 👍👍
Guess what colour Jeff is going to paint it!
Jeff, I have a manual foot pedal guillotine about the sam age F.J. Edwards which has the same half round indent in the middle like
yours, Is this for a roller to move sheets back & forth if you know can you drop me a comment. Cheers Dave
No idea mate
Lovely old thing Jeff, hopefully a man of your talent will fit two switches instead of the foot pedal so you can't get your hands under the knife by accident; Mrs Jeff may love you but she probably won't want to be wiping your arse for you!
You need to slow it down. Maybe a Jackshaft.
John Heine and sons are still around. They might have spare parts
Robespierre approves this video 😂
i demand a try on your fingers!!! just kidding! ^____^
Neat : )
Why was it abandoned? Very American. You had to pay for it I assume. Same with your Datsun.