Electric Sawmill

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  • @nicksnextproject535
    @nicksnextproject535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man this is awesome. I really like the simplicity of it. You have made it seem as though anybody could tackle this mill build.

  • @mattlambert6714
    @mattlambert6714 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you add a Spring to the end of your rope where it Meet your ladder it will take a lot of the choppy mark's out of the lumber also a ripping chain at 10° makes a much nicer cut

  • @isaacguffey1111
    @isaacguffey1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love a video of the sleeve/clutch build to attach the chainsaw chain and bar

  • @theincredulousr
    @theincredulousr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great build. Whilst everything like this has inherent danger I think i'd look at adding a guard where you are standing. If the chain snaps the sprocket can keep on pulling and whip the chain around into your thigh. Would only be a few more welds and a bit of steel plate or even thick mesh.

    • @scor440
      @scor440 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t use chainsaws do you?The chain is contained and doesn’t act as a whip if it comes off and the chain isn’t long enough to cause harm but the guard is a good idea for sawdust containment

    • @theincredulousr
      @theincredulousr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scor440 Do a search and read on the various forums that people have been hit by the broken chain, granted its not hugely common but it is possible. Also the chain isn't 'contained' if it is broken and in this setup it is not contained at all as far as I can see. This is not a standard chainsaw with it pointing out in front of you, it's literally at junk height! and the operators hand comes pretty close to the chain as he turns the wheel. Might be a pretty low chance of causing injury but I'd rather put something in the way if something was to go wrong on a diy chainsaw setup.

    • @bmw328igearhead
      @bmw328igearhead ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scor440 I'm gonna suspect you are overly confident with a chainsaw.
      I've broken a chain, and my right thigh has the 6" long scar to prove it. Don't tell me a chain can't whip.
      Don't be a Karen/Kevin. In the real world, anything is possible.

  • @DubDTube
    @DubDTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool build man. Been researching chainsaw mill, thought electric, boom here you are, and thanks for including operation sound @3:00

  • @Benzijune
    @Benzijune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks man 🙏
    It looks sufficient and practical.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @fixingstufftv453
    @fixingstufftv453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent design! with a small generator It's portable, transport the whole thing in the back of a pickup. You could set it up to a huge oak in the middle of the forest without having to move the log.

  • @TripleTRanchAndSawmill
    @TripleTRanchAndSawmill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good concept. Bet it will serve you for many years!

  • @jodywade5617
    @jodywade5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, that is cool.

  • @haroldh9798
    @haroldh9798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this! Well done!

  • @my83roadster4me
    @my83roadster4me 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a very good idea you came up with. Nice job.

  • @leetaves6493
    @leetaves6493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT JOB

  • @modoc852
    @modoc852 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple and low cost setup,I think I might have to make something like this to save wear and tear on my 036. Only I’m probably going to use a 3450 rpm motor 3-5 hp 220v single phase to be able to use a longer power cord and lessen the i r loss. Preferably a used j or c-face pump motor or air compressor motor.

  • @tgmod
    @tgmod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well done,

  • @brianphilbrook5262
    @brianphilbrook5262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done 👏👏👏. Did you use a rip chain?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Brian. I used a Oregon chip chain. I don't know a lot about the chains. I was told that this is a good soft wood and hard wood chain.

  • @sawingdummie
    @sawingdummie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job. an idea you may or may not like, i know you want to be by the motor incase something happens, but why not put your crank handle on the ladder end that way your out of the saw dust being thrown out. just a suggestion.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a dandy idea! I might try it on my next machine. I gotta stay open. Thanks. Lonnie.

  • @ShowAndTool
    @ShowAndTool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would somehow wedging behind the cut being made prolong life of chain/ reduce friction/ weight on bar? I'm not sure how that could be managed in a safe way. really solid build!

  • @douglasmcleod7481
    @douglasmcleod7481 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    have you tried a bigger chain sprocket to get more rpm ?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have.. 2 Horse power is The maximum I can run on 120 volts. By bringing my PPM's up my torque goes down. Its still cuts about the same speed. I only cut for myself and my kids so I am in no hurry. with the limited power I could make it faster with a narrower blade. I really enjoy milling,....

    • @douglasmcleod7481
      @douglasmcleod7481 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegreensbackhoe i have whats rated a 5 hp compressor motor at 110 . im guess because its 1700 rpm it has similar powet to your 3400 rpm 2 hp

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@douglasmcleod7481 there are some strange Horse power ratings out there. It takes about 7.5 amps to run a one horse power motor. A true 5 horse power 120 volt motor would take about 38 amps to run. a 20 amp circuit could never run it. I would be curious to see the plate on the motor. most likely it is 15 amp draw. Sounds like someone came up with a new way to measure Horse power to sell compressors.
      The 1700 rpm motor would be a little slow to run a mill. You would have to pull the bar through really hard to make up for the slow speed which in turn would start to wear things out. I feel like 3450 rpm is about the minimum speed .

    • @douglasmcleod7481
      @douglasmcleod7481 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegreensbackhoe ha ha i pulled the shroud off the motor and saw 1.5 on the plate

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@douglasmcleod7481 your motor would probably work, It would be painfully slow. In the description of this video, I put a link to some information about my log to lumber equipment. th-cam.com/video/vr9tmCDDxN4/w-d-xo.html

  • @seriksson9721
    @seriksson9721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice build a better chainlub and its top.

  • @randallkeisler7372
    @randallkeisler7372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a great sawmill you built can I use your plain

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Randall. I have plans for the gas chainsaw mill. The electric mill is the same frame with a different power head design. Send an email to thegreensmachines@gmail.com I will send the pdf down load. I dont have plans for the electric power head because there are too many different types of saws.

  • @TilkRaivo
    @TilkRaivo ปีที่แล้ว

    Three important things you definitely already know.
    1: The sharpening angle of the saw chain when sawing longitudinal wood must be 10° insted 35°. The saw blade remains stable and the table surface is smooth.
    2: Lubrication of the saw chain is absolutely necessary.
    3: The linear speed of the saw chain should be the same as that of the chainsaw. (The chainsaw makes 10,000 rpm, the electric motor 3,000rpm. Use about 3times accelerating transmission, or at least 12 teeth spocket)
    🙂

  • @ÁrvoresEmadeiras
    @ÁrvoresEmadeiras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job man, hows it working after a year? How much power does it need?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. I am pretty sure that it is pulling about 16 amps. It would depend on the load. I run it on a 20 amp 110 volt AC wall outlet. I finished my lumber. A friend borrowed it to do his lumber. It has been sitting for about 6 months. When time allows I will mill some more lumber.

    • @ÁrvoresEmadeiras
      @ÁrvoresEmadeiras 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegreensbackhoe thanks for replying, I live off grid so I dont have much power, do you think I could use a small motor or should I do it with a gas engine? Thanks again man! Hope you find time to have some fun milling, I'm researching about it because I'll mill everything for my home construction.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ÁrvoresEmadeiras I use the electric motor because I am on the grid. If I was not on the grid I would not use an electric motor. For me the electricity is way cheaper than the gas to run a saw. The quiet is nice too.
      After doing some milling I also know that the chainsaw mill is a little slow on the harder wood like oak, If time is an issue then I would go with a gas powered band saw mill.
      If you want to do a gas powered chain saw mill with the ladder track then email me At thegreensmachines@gmail.com I have some drawings that will help. Thanks. Lonnie.

    • @ÁrvoresEmadeiras
      @ÁrvoresEmadeiras 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegreensbackhoe My problem with a bandsaw mill is getting the blades because I'll be in Brazil, I think I'll do a gas powered with the chainsaw blade, thanks for replying! Thanks for offering the drawings.

    • @scor440
      @scor440 ปีที่แล้ว

      What hp is the motor

  • @nhart6046
    @nhart6046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any plans for this design

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send me an email at thegreensmachines@gmail.com I will give you plans for the gas version. The gas and electric are the same basic mechanism with a different attachment. th-cam.com/video/Dfy6I5PbfRk/w-d-xo.html

  • @joshsoorlin579
    @joshsoorlin579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What rpm is the motor 1750 or 3400

  • @Wedget
    @Wedget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloody awesome mate, keeping it simple yet keeping it effective, and I would guess the build cost is kept to a minimum as well. Just a suggestion have you considered a support for the bar tip which would help prevent bar flex especially when cutting wide boards? Just by the look of your design it would be easy to adapt an Alaskan mill style of bar tip support to accommodate this.!!.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi . Since it is only an 18 inch bar there is no flex. I think that I would need a support at about 20 inches. Thanks, Lonnie.

  • @DobleWhiteAndStabley
    @DobleWhiteAndStabley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the bright side, you can use a generator to run it when the grid fails you lol. Be it steam generator, or gas.

  • @kelceygerman1400
    @kelceygerman1400 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was most interested in hearing what the mill sounds like with the electric motor, but I got sleepy bedtime music during the cutting. Other than that, great video:)

  • @hollyr8788
    @hollyr8788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really cool setup is this a TEFC or ODP motor? If ODP are you having any issues with sawdust getting into the motor? Thanks for sharing your build. I am building similar and just was reading about the different type motors and would prefer to purchase an ODP due to cost but was just curious of your experience after using this for a while.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi. It turns out that I used a ODP motor . I learn something new every day. They have the brand new 2 hp compressor motors for a good price. I have not had any trouble with the sawdust getting in the motor. I do blow out the dust with my leaf blower. Let me know if you have any other questions. Lonnie.
      www.surpluscenter.com/Electric-Motors/AC-Single-Phase-Motors/Air-Compressor-Motors/?page_no=1&fq=ATR_Motors_HP:2&fq=ATR_RPM:3450

    • @hollyr8788
      @hollyr8788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegreensbackhoe TY, those are good prices does the 2 hp seem to be enough to handle the milling? I am not milling everyday but more for wood for projects. I might do some logs 20 inch diameter but nothing huge.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hollyr8788 It is enough for everything I have done. The 2 Horse power electric motor is equivalent to a 4 horse power gas engine. This is also the largest electric motor that will still plug into a wall outlet. I have cut alot of boards on my mill. Homemade live edge boards are great gifts. It will come down to how sharp the blade is.

    • @hollyr8788
      @hollyr8788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegreensbackhoe Cool, I’m ordering one and definitely agree on the sharpness of the chain I will use ripping chains. Thanks for sharing your experience and creativity with your mill.

  • @alexecheverria
    @alexecheverria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent solution! Long live the electric sawmill.

  • @thegreensbackhoe
    @thegreensbackhoe  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will do about a 24 inch log but it seems most efficient with about an 18 to 20 inch log. I am pretty sure that a bandsaw mill with the same motor would cut twice as fast. Maybe the next project? Thanks, Lonnie.

  • @joshsoorlin579
    @joshsoorlin579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u make some more vids on it!?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have other vids on this one. th-cam.com/video/Dfy6I5PbfRk/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/26vWfsULB5Q/w-d-xo.html
      There are a whole bunch of videos on my You tube channel .. th-cam.com/channels/EE_TJKBd41X9Rh7xIco6wg.html
      Thanks. Lonnie.

  • @joshsoorlin579
    @joshsoorlin579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    best one yet i have seen as far as simplicity! can you make more vids on it or make another one!

  • @davidellis7695
    @davidellis7695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding machine. It’s what an engineer would call an elegant solution.

  • @max-28382hhfh
    @max-28382hhfh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome. How many rpms is your motor?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it is 3450 rpms

    • @leetaves9143
      @leetaves9143 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think it is a 1750 rpm for faster work you would use a 3450 rpm motor

  • @tompeace2621
    @tompeace2621 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much you want for that

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Tom. If you are interested in the sawmill, email me at thegreensmachines@gmail.com

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job

  • @BenDiscoe
    @BenDiscoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A natural question would be: can't I do this by just buying a corded chainsaw, which are cheap ($115 on amazon for 18" 15A saw)? And I think i know the answer. Corded chainsaws are well known to overheat/shutdown frequently, especially when used for long continuous cuts (exactly what milling requires). By using a much larger motor, even tho it is rated to draw around the same power, you have avoided the problem of a small electric motor overheating. Does that make sense? I'm guessing they simply don't make corded chainsaws with bigger motors because they'd get too heavy, which isn't an issue for a mill.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi ben. You have the right idea. I did try an electric chainsaw. It ran hot and was noisy. Typical skill saw type brushed motor.
      These induction motors are quiet with good torque. I do have to blow the saw dust out of it once in a while. The only flaw I have found is that the points that kick the capacitors in to start the motor get sawdust in them. I sometimes have to start the mill with a stick.
      The mill works great. I think I will do a bandsaw mill with the same size motor next.
      There are still lots of trees being cut down. Thanks, Lonnie

  • @tvs3497
    @tvs3497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the price of lumber keeps going up. One 2x6x8' is over $12 at the Home Depot. This sawmill would pay for itself in one 10" log.

  • @georgepeel7469
    @georgepeel7469 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice and easy solution to slabbing, Thank you. One problem I see that as sawdust collects on the wheels you will lose accurateness, solution would be to put a little board to scrape the track clean of sawdust as it moves in front of the wheels.

  • @AlienPirate
    @AlienPirate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely brilliant!

  • @larryvaughn2567
    @larryvaughn2567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what kind of chain you are using.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Larry, I am not sure what chain it is. It was the chain that came on the saw. I did get a sharpening stone for my dremel. I feel like the saw cuts pretty fast on pine and cedar not so fast on oak.

  • @davewelch1932
    @davewelch1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm like you. The bandsaw mill investment is harder to swallow.
    I live in BC Canada. Don't have a ton of money to spend. Semi retired. Been a carpenter 50- years. Saw a Russian You Tube clip all wood. And rough. But a longer bar 60".
    Also saw a hydraulic. Same speed as electric. Doesn't bogs down.

    • @davewelch1932
      @davewelch1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gave me some more ideas.

    • @davewelch1932
      @davewelch1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've investigated skip chains and hypererskip chains. Going to investigate with my Remington electric -14" I picked up for $50.00 some 15 years ago. Sacrificing that saw is cheaper than a gas powered. Thinking a 24" bar. Have a 30" Willow block to try.
      My daughter needs a couple of end tables for her appointment. Want to try a river table.
      Love your setup. Awesome simple ideas.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Dave. I tried a Harbor freight electric saw. It was 7 amps and just a little too slow. I think that the Remington might have a little more power. Nothing better than taking those throw away logs and making something useful. Good luck. Lonnie

    • @davewelch1932
      @davewelch1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just tried it with the 16" husky bar. Slower than shit. Talked to HUSKIES dialer. Said could put on my kiddies 136 Husqvarna .but would burn it out. That is why I was going to use it on my little Remington. $50. Saw 15 years ago. Thinking a 24 or 28 inch blade as long as pitch same. Not going to worry about burning it out. Been a carpenter for 50 years. Want to make a river table side tables for my daughter. Just bought a Willow block. 30" anyway. In BC Canada that is the closest most reasonable hardwood.
      Experiment stages.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Dave . My original chain saw was a 18" 42 cc poulon pro. For 129 dollars it came with a case and extra chains. I did not expect much from it. I used it to cut about 4 cords of madrone fire wood. I realized that the Madrone was beautiful wood so I built the gas chainsaw mill to make some boards. After some trial and error I made lumber.
      The little poulon chainsaw ran flawlessly board after board. I only built the electric mill because I wanted to mill early in the morning and I also was getting sore ears from the hearing protection.
      The electric mill is just a little faster than the poulon.
      Here is what I learned:
      Oak and madrone is super hard and slow. I have to touch up the blade every 3 or 4 boards.
      Green lumber is easier to cut.
      The pull rope that is on the crank will save a lot ot fatigue.
      Pine and cedar are like cutting through butter. If you ever see someone demonstrating their mill system it will always have a pine log on the mill.
      I do all my milling in blocks. Usually about 1 week of milling will give me all the lumber I need for 6 months to a year.

  • @dahlbo016
    @dahlbo016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many RPM do you need to have on the electric motor?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Juha. My motor is 3600 Rpms. The gas chain saws are turning between 10 thousand to 14 thousand rpms. I am happy with the speed of my mill. I think that slower rpms will work. Just not as fast

    • @dahlbo016
      @dahlbo016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegreensbackhoe Hello again! :) do you mean from the output shaft of the motor or chain?

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dahlbo016 The motor output shaft. Here is a link to a similar motor. It can run on 120 volts www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/AC-Single-Phase-Motors/AC-Motors-Base-Mount/2-HP-115-230-3450-RPM-Marathon-Air-Compressor-Motor-EM03-0-36-10SP-10-2619.axd

    • @BspPlays9287
      @BspPlays9287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Sir. Question for you, have you ever bogged down the motor. I have an old electric motor laying around just wondering of you can go lower than 2 HP.

    • @thegreensbackhoe
      @thegreensbackhoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. I think that if you were going to be cutting smaller logs. Maybe down to 1.5 Hp. If I was to crank down on the pull cable I could bog it down. It would really come down to the length of the bar and log size.