@@armorer94 oh I know but I wanted to know why the original commenter was interested. I’ve worked inside cookie cutters and I’ve seen the inside of many max facilities back in the day. The never ending wall of Greenhaven made my mouth drop.
@armorer94 because they want to coddle them instead of corrections behavior. You want to encourage people to NOT go back. But with the hotels they have as prisons today they all want to go back.
@ligmasack9038 And by the way, that's not my story. That's just one of the many messed up reasons I've heard of people being incarcerated. There's a little charge called disorderly conduct, which is about as vague a phrase as you can make legally that gives officers the ability to arrest you for a large range of complete and total BS. You're just fortunate enough that you haven't been confronted in your life yet. But I'm sure someone like you has never done something like driven home after having a couple of beers at the bar right? You've never done anything illegal and just haven't been caught right cuz you're perfect
Funfact: by the 1980s, it wasn’t much better. My uncle spent 4 years there before moving to a close minimum security. But he had PTSD, to the point that when my mom (his sister) woke him up once he almost punched her and then warned her to never do it again. I don’t know what they did, but I know he was 6’2, big, and left there with muscles and barely any fat. And then never exercised again. He did get better treatment because he was white, I know that. Hell, he was sentenced to first degree and got out in 7 years because of good behavior. (Plus the police fought to get him out. The guy who died was a mafia boss with ties to NYC who threatened to off my entire family if he quit selling for them. So… he took care of something the cops legally couldn’t, as the guy always kept his hands clean.) But he spent a long time in Attica, and my parents used to drive the 5 hours to see him at least biweekly.
What people doesn't seem to understand is that prison is as much about punishment as it is about rehabilitation. The punishment part is easy: loss of freedom is more than punishment enough. But You can't treat someone like a rabid dog and believe he will get better. He won't. I'm not talking privilege or golden parachute here. I'm talking one shower everyday, decent (decent, not luxury) meals, fewer inmates per cell and so on. I'm talking about psychiatric help, counseling, work specializations - so he can earn his money when get out. It's cheaper (for society as a whole) to do this than to face the consequences. And You ask "but what about the ones where it doesn't work?". Well, I'm a death penalty believer for a reason... Being humane is different from being a push over.
you cant rehab people who cant and wont be rehabed.. liberal pipe-dream.. if your interested in bettering yourself you can do it when you get out.. sorry not sorry.
used to ride my snowmobile in the hills around the prison at night i had a good spot to pull off the trail and crack a beer and pondered what type of person found themselves inside them walls as i considered myself lucky to be living free
yo wyoming was literally the worst medium i went to during my 3 1/2 flat. marcy was kiddie camp, it was kinda cool though, cayuga was chill most of the time, a small step up over marcy…but damn, wyoming was nutty. I think its because the lifers that have done almost a decade and get their security classification moved down get to go on down the hill to wyoming as their first spot. Honestly-It might be a good thing I did more than half the bid there, If i went to marcy and stayed there after downstate- I’d prob still be living the life since it was like a college dorm…just no women ahaha
Who knew that treating people like dirt makes em more violent? Remember, the punishment in imprisonment is meant to come from the simple revocation of one's freedom and civil liberties, not being subject to inhumane treatment!
If you want to know more you should to read the Pulitzer Prize winning book "Blood in the Water" by Heather Ann Thompson. She not only wrote the definitive history on the event by digging thru dusty court archives and interviews, she published many things that the guards didn't want published and buried deep. Its a truly crazy read. She also has a few talks on youtube. Not only on the riots but the current struggles.
Did 1 day there in transit and it was absolutely hell and I’ve done a combat tour in Afghanistan. Even in 2012 the guards will try to set you up an I literally spent 1 day there. F that hell hole
@ oh gosh you know nothing about him first of all Nelson never wanted to succeed because he was a Rockefeller he wanted to succeed in spite of being a Rockefeller. He had worked for both FDR and Eisenhower, he was a profound supporter and contributor of the civil rights movement (he paid for and made almost all the arrangements for MLK’s funeral), it’s thanks to him we have SUNY, and the Empire plaza in the Empire State….its just by his fourth term of governor I think he stopped giving a fuck or maybe wanted to impress his former republican rival Nixon?
Empire plaza was an urban planning failure and displaced thousands of people while ruining the downtown of Albany all for some imposing brutalist architecture and highways…
I live just outside NYC, in Long Island, and went to a rehab upstate when I was younger, and a counselor there did 13 years in Attica, EVERY SINGLE doorway he walked thru he would knock on the doorframe as he was stepping thru. Even just walking down the hall, every doorway he passed thru he would :: Knock:: Knock:: as he walked thru em. He said it was because at Attica am inmate had to make his presence known before stepping into a room, I think he meant he had a job doing whatever, cleaning let's say, and before walking thru any doorway you would have to knock to make your presence known, and after 13 years of doing this everyday, he couldn't stop, he didn't even realize he was doing it anymore, it was a part of him.
My uncle was a guard there during the riot. I was about 13. We lived in Rochester ny. My uncle was on vacation in Florida when the riot started. The guard that filled in for my uncle was killed. Needless to say my mother was beside herself. Id never seen her so upset. My uncle flew back to help take back the prison. He told my father what happened and his part in taking the prison back. Afterwards they transferred my uncle to Elmira at that prison.
My father was in Attica during this riot.I was three years old. I actually vaguely remember visiting my father.With my mother of course. Both of my parents have now passed. Good Riddance to both of them. Mike Brown from Red Creek NY
I been in NYS prison system, went up in '08, did 27 months on a 3 year bid for drugs. I remember pulling up to Comstock (Great Meadow Facility, maximum security) and seeing that huuuge wall and thinking: "holyyyy Shiiit" and then bam, they busted a left and I see: "Washington Correctional Facility" (medium security, with a fence, not an insane wall) and I was like: "oh, thank God"
They didnt school you too well in county did they young blood. I did my 3 and a half flat from 2013-2016. Did no one ever tell you that to go “Behind the wall” (slang for a max) you have to meet certain criteria? First of all, your not gonna touch a max on a 3 year bid unless you are a total security issue and literally throw hands within the first couple days/weeks wherever you land. 6 years-8 years is usually the least amount of time to get sentenced too and end up in a max. Second of all-You said it was a drug crime. Im dont know of a single drug crime thats classified as a violent. Thats another factor that will affect your classification. If your felony is classified as a violent F, than you might end up doing your first year or so in a max if you get 5-6, just because youve already proven you will resort to violence without thinking too much about it. I mean, I’d have probably been shittin a brick too, but when I went up on my 3 and a half on a violent charge (Robbery in the 2nd) I knew, and was told by many other inmates in county that have been up north before, that as long as I kept my nose clean and wasnt raising hell at every medium, Id never touch a max that bid.
The whole country does need more prisons C.O's and staff to alleviate overcrowding but it costs money but also needs rehabilitation programs for inmates as well
Had to do some masonry work in Attica. Place is all around scary. I hated working inside spent hours checking tools,equipment and materials in and out was a lot of red tape.
My dad was in Attica my uncle was in Attica and my grandfather was in Attica all in different periods of time but their stories and scars are all the same … racial tension, human rights being violated and and lack of medical care on top of the everyday violence between inmate gangs and prison guards.
Never went to Attica,but I did 8yrs in the NYS juvenile correctional facilities, like dfy, spodford and trion and Pius 12 and many other places, and I was put in the system cus my mom was a widow who was poor,so they took us away,my life is and was CRAZY I'm 41yrs old now. My mom came from Hungary as a baby in 1959 my father was born in New Jersey in 1927 and had passed away when I was only 3yrs old and my mom had a rough life as well, so she really didn't know what to do after her husband died who was older then her and she had 2 kids already and it just gets deeper from their. I'm a father now and Ive done everything to make sure NYS never gets a hold of my kids, cus NYS will take your kids if you need help it's actually crazy how much control this state has over people.
Attica is a serious place to be Hard to do time C.O always ready to put hand on you I was there 2011-2012 C-block A- block 5 company This is were boy become man
Please do a documentary on Baltimore City Jail or BCDC after the State took over, I was there many times in the 90’s and it was like a murder every other day! That place was a Zoo, I’m glad they tore it down!
Hello, thank you for sharing that story, I spent over 20 years going to visit my brother in law at graterford prison and to a new facility called SCI PHOENIX. ( 100 YARDS AWAY. ) IT was brand new . Very nice. , bill cosby was there , I got to see him one n Time talking to his lawyer, WOW DAVID RUDER is my brother in law, and he has a life sentence for killing a drug dealer. The philly cops said he should have gotten a award , go figure, he's been in since he was 19 or 20 years old, he is now 54 years , In Pennsylvania life is life . I have met a lot of good people there ( prisoners & guards ) and it's a very depressing place to be. 😢😢
I did some time in comstock (Great Meadow Correctional Facility) which isn’t as nationally known as Attica but I’ll be lying if I said I wasn’t scared when I first hit that spot. It was shambolic as fuck there man.
To everyone saying that the inmates deserved to be treated like animals: you make me sick. Not everyone that's in prison is a predator. People make mistakes. Some of those people deserve another chance at life, but if you treat someone like an animal, they're going to become an animal, & if they do get another chance at life onthe outside, they're only going to know how to be an animal.
Nobody deserves to be treated inhumanly, but prison isn’t supposed to be a luxury resort either. There should be no TV, radios, or internet for prisoners. As long as you’re getting three squares a day, a shower, and 1 hour of activity time, that’s all a prisoner should be entitled to. You make prison too cushy prisoners won’t want to leave as they become accustomed to this lifestyle, especially prisoners with long term sentences.
The easiest way to keep them out is through education and job training. A lot of trade training have been eliminated from prisons. With no job training, how do we expect them to come back and work?
@truckinguy92 why should they not have tv radio or internet? They don't get money, get to meet anyone new, see family or friends...do you really think someone who got caught smoking weed in the 90s should have the same treatment as a rapist? Imagine if you had a one bedroom apartment. Then take out the kitchen and living room. Now stay there. For years. Hardly a "luxury resort"
Your comment about prison population at 17:00 is dishonest and deceptive. Your gave the number for the year 2000. Its currently less than half that. 2000 was a quarter century ago.. I'm definitely not defending the Department of Corrections, but be honest. The prison population in New York is down significantly. In the last decade many prisons here have closed, saving taxpayers money. Recidivism numbers are also down in New York.
That's not exactly true. Your security status is based almost solely on how much time you have left to your minimum release date. More than seven years and you are going to a max, regardless of how dangerous you actually are or how vulnerable you are.
@@TonysMusic1974 You haven't watched many prison TH-camrs. AfterPrisonShow (Joe Guerrero) served 7.5 years for non violent drug charges. He was only in low level prisons
@JoiceVaderd I dont have to. I'll just say that I am VERY familiar with how new york does things. I dont know who you are referring to or what state he was in (or if it was the feds).
Ryan struggles with some pronunciations. A few videos back he used the word debuted, only he prounced the T. So day-bu-ted. I've corrected a few times, but I don't think he reads the comments.
@@uncomfortabletruth2988 Im all for that. The mental health crisis in this country is ignored by pretty much everyone and its a serious issue. Things were better when the state hospitals were open and Im old enough to remember that.
As a lot of information is correct, a lot of it is not correct. me and my family live in Attica and the surrounding towns many of our family members have worked at that prison, including my grandfather, and great grandfather as Attica was, at the time, the most maximum security prison in the country, besides Alcatraz house, some of the most violent killers and rapist in the country With the thousands of incident reports that can be pulled up if you submit for the records there are many many reports of violent acts against the guards, visitors and employees of the prison I feel like most of this video is made doing research online and not actually talking to people who served there as I remember stories of family members getting stabbed and assaulted. Most of the problems and that prison were from politicians and state representatives
It’s crazy just cause you make a mistake doesn’t mean you deserve to get treated like 💩 cause at the end of the day nobody is perfect so keep that in mind before you start talking crazy
I have transported iraqi prisoners and i possess no interest in prisons but earth is definitely a prison. Thy Will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Innocent people can end up in jail, innocent people can end up being lottery millionaires too.
Your pro inmate. Why don't you make your video telling the story of both sides. You end this crap with if you were an inmate send a message. Why not message from both sides??? JO
George Jackson died on August 21-1971 at eighteen he was arrested there say of stealing seventy dollars from a gas station there give him one year to life i brought the book Blood in my eye Angel Davis Attica is the worse prison today 🎉🎉
Russia and Belarus still allow guards to beat and torture in jails and prisons. If youre already in prison and concede to guilt and a forfeiture of your rights. After conceding to justice, whoever is lower, wont be happy to be physically beaten down even further and refused rehabilitation. Its easy to be victimized when you give up your rights by committing a crime. But there is a fine line to tread if you dont want to commit a war crime, because the same rules apply in the real world. Think again, but live in the real world and grow up kid.
It is not really a spin. It was the entire cause of the event. The prisoners were extremely blunt and open during and after on what caused this. They made demand lists and tv interviews. Telling their side of history is important or we repeat the mistakes made.
When you make videos, don't include music then. It is very common for videos, movies, TV shows etc. to have music. Kind of an odd thing to be up in arms about.
Don’t do the crime if you don’t wanna do the time 🤷. They took hostages, assaulted guards, tried to escape and were constantly egging them on. wtf you think was gonna happen? Bunch of clowns.
But do the crimes they committed really justify inhumane conditions? I don't think so. Besides, inhumane prison conditions don't do anything but satisfy the American appetite for inmate suffering and the idea of justice necessitating vengeance and wanton cruelty.
Many of your stories, if not most, are in New York. Do you do history around the country or are your writers so limited, they don't deem other historical locations around the country worthy?
Born and raised in Batavia NY with family in Attica. It's a prison town you're either a CO or a farmer.
Prison architecture is so interesting to me.
What about it?
Attica belongs to an older design principle. Prisons nowadays look like college campuses with razor wire.
@@armorer94 oh I know but I wanted to know why the original commenter was interested. I’ve worked inside cookie cutters and I’ve seen the inside of many max facilities back in the day. The never ending wall of Greenhaven made my mouth drop.
@armorer94 because they want to coddle them instead of corrections behavior. You want to encourage people to NOT go back. But with the hotels they have as prisons today they all want to go back.
Have you played Prison Architect?
I've been here many times, my uncle was there for about 5 years. It's very intimidating when you see it in person.
ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
lol, Dog Day Afternoon
Anyone that's ever been incarcerated knows that those words still ring out in jail cells to this day
@@michaelfrench3396 If they didn't break the Law, they wouldn't be getting punished.
@@ligmasack9038, there is a difference between being punished and being abused. BIG difference.
@ligmasack9038 And by the way, that's not my story. That's just one of the many messed up reasons I've heard of people being incarcerated. There's a little charge called disorderly conduct, which is about as vague a phrase as you can make legally that gives officers the ability to arrest you for a large range of complete and total BS. You're just fortunate enough that you haven't been confronted in your life yet. But I'm sure someone like you has never done something like driven home after having a couple of beers at the bar right? You've never done anything illegal and just haven't been caught right cuz you're perfect
Funfact: by the 1980s, it wasn’t much better. My uncle spent 4 years there before moving to a close minimum security. But he had PTSD, to the point that when my mom (his sister) woke him up once he almost punched her and then warned her to never do it again. I don’t know what they did, but I know he was 6’2, big, and left there with muscles and barely any fat. And then never exercised again.
He did get better treatment because he was white, I know that. Hell, he was sentenced to first degree and got out in 7 years because of good behavior. (Plus the police fought to get him out. The guy who died was a mafia boss with ties to NYC who threatened to off my entire family if he quit selling for them. So… he took care of something the cops legally couldn’t, as the guy always kept his hands clean.) But he spent a long time in Attica, and my parents used to drive the 5 hours to see him at least biweekly.
What people doesn't seem to understand is that prison is as much about punishment as it is about rehabilitation. The punishment part is easy: loss of freedom is more than punishment enough.
But You can't treat someone like a rabid dog and believe he will get better. He won't.
I'm not talking privilege or golden parachute here. I'm talking one shower everyday, decent (decent, not luxury) meals, fewer inmates per cell and so on. I'm talking about psychiatric help, counseling, work specializations - so he can earn his money when get out. It's cheaper (for society as a whole) to do this than to face the consequences.
And You ask "but what about the ones where it doesn't work?". Well, I'm a death penalty believer for a reason... Being humane is different from being a push over.
you cant rehab people who cant and wont be rehabed.. liberal pipe-dream.. if your interested in bettering yourself you can do it when you get out.. sorry not sorry.
used to ride my snowmobile in the hills around the prison at night i had a good spot to pull off the trail and crack a beer and pondered what type of person found themselves inside them walls as i considered myself lucky to be living free
Maxed out from Attica in 2010. Those cops ars crazy. I was also in Wyoming next door. That's how i ended up back in a max
I was there in 2015 - 2017. I know what you mean. The stories I can tell i will be banned.
yo wyoming was literally the worst medium i went to during my 3 1/2 flat. marcy was kiddie camp, it was kinda cool though, cayuga was chill most of the time, a small step up over marcy…but damn, wyoming was nutty. I think its because the lifers that have done almost a decade and get their security classification moved down get to go on down the hill to wyoming as their first spot. Honestly-It might be a good thing I did more than half the bid there, If i went to marcy and stayed there after downstate- I’d prob still be living the life since it was like a college dorm…just no women ahaha
I'm an old ex convict junkie. Once I got clean and stopped breaking the law, I never went back to prison.
Funny how that works. Good for you man.
Me too. 24 years down 24 years free...never looking back. NYSDOC. Grrr..
I got PTSD I blame on SHU mainly.
Damn, 24 yrs is a long time. I did 5 and it sucked..it's sad how fast it actually goes
I was not incarcerated at Attica but I have gone through the NYS system and would be willing to share my experience. Mid 2010 era
@@onegiftedjedi5678 ok so share it 🤷
I was in Attica in 2015 - 2017
@@onegiftedjedi5678 you and a million other people boss LOL you're not special
Pills?
Attica is an amazing place to see up close. Those walls are huge! I worked nearby. Glad to be on this side
Sad to say, my father Frank Lott was chairman of the negotiation committee at Attica during the riot. He died a free man, thank God! ✌️
You should see how the incarcerated treat each other. No one ever does a documentary on that.
3:41 "Attica...an overcrowded institution became a powder keg." - shows photo of early United Nations. :-D 😄
Who knew that treating people like dirt makes em more violent? Remember, the punishment in imprisonment is meant to come from the simple revocation of one's freedom and civil liberties, not being subject to inhumane treatment!
"For punishment to be effective, it mush often be cruel and unusual".
They all had a chance to change their own courses before they hit prison, now you want prison to do it for them.? give over..
you can't send a feral pitbull to obedience school and expect it to behave and not bite!! you either contain or terminate!!!
If you want to know more you should to read the Pulitzer Prize winning book "Blood in the Water" by Heather Ann Thompson. She not only wrote the definitive history on the event by digging thru dusty court archives and interviews, she published many things that the guards didn't want published and buried deep. Its a truly crazy read. She also has a few talks on youtube. Not only on the riots but the current struggles.
I was in Attica in 2015 - 2017. There are bullet holes still in D block.
This is a great page!! Great work making history interesting for those not so interested!!
Did 1 day there in transit and it was absolutely hell and I’ve done a combat tour in Afghanistan. Even in 2012 the guards will try to set you up an I literally spent 1 day there. F that hell hole
I grew up in Louisiana and the state pententery at Angola was the end of the line. Don’t want to be part of it, well don’t do crime.
Yeah don't have to commit a crime to be jailed.
@@Libertaro-i2uThat's generally the sequence of events.
nobody but you and me in this comment section seem to see it that way .
I went to Angola my senior year with other older kids from my church. After that, I didn't want to see any kind of jail or prison.
@@robertbrouillette6767 thanks officer
Damn yo Nelson Rockefeller was so checked out when that riot hit!
What do you expect from an old money yuppie
@ oh gosh you know nothing about him first of all Nelson never wanted to succeed because he was a Rockefeller he wanted to succeed in spite of being a Rockefeller. He had worked for both FDR and Eisenhower, he was a profound supporter and contributor of the civil rights movement (he paid for and made almost all the arrangements for MLK’s funeral), it’s thanks to him we have SUNY, and the Empire plaza in the Empire State….its just by his fourth term of governor I think he stopped giving a fuck or maybe wanted to impress his former republican rival Nixon?
Empire plaza was an urban planning failure and displaced thousands of people while ruining the downtown of Albany all for some imposing brutalist architecture and highways…
@ ….it ran out all the whorehouses yes but I think it looks pretty damn good and Im proud to have it in my back yard.
@@andrewb9302 oh are you from Rochester do you know anything about the abandoned subway? I love pinball I love visiting the museum of play!
I live just outside NYC, in Long Island, and went to a rehab upstate when I was younger, and a counselor there did 13 years in Attica, EVERY SINGLE doorway he walked thru he would knock on the doorframe as he was stepping thru. Even just walking down the hall, every doorway he passed thru he would :: Knock:: Knock:: as he walked thru em. He said it was because at Attica am inmate had to make his presence known before stepping into a room, I think he meant he had a job doing whatever, cleaning let's say, and before walking thru any doorway you would have to knock to make your presence known, and after 13 years of doing this everyday, he couldn't stop, he didn't even realize he was doing it anymore, it was a part of him.
i think some of the law suits didnt get settled to 2005
My uncle was a guard there during the riot. I was about 13. We lived in Rochester ny. My uncle was on vacation in Florida when the riot started. The guard that filled in for my uncle was killed. Needless to say my mother was beside herself. Id never seen her so upset. My uncle flew back to help take back the prison. He told my father what happened and his part in taking the prison back. Afterwards they transferred my uncle to Elmira at that prison.
Thank you for sharing
My father was in Attica during this riot.I was three years old.
I actually vaguely remember visiting my father.With my mother of course.
Both of my parents have now passed. Good Riddance to both of them.
Mike Brown from Red Creek NY
am i the only one who heard him say ‘34%’??? 04:17
Can harry the evaluater make a better impression because he recomende 10 days out patient and the judge ignored it also
I been in NYS prison system, went up in '08, did 27 months on a 3 year bid for drugs. I remember pulling up to Comstock (Great Meadow Facility, maximum security) and seeing that huuuge wall and thinking: "holyyyy Shiiit" and then bam, they busted a left and I see: "Washington Correctional Facility" (medium security, with a fence, not an insane wall) and I was like: "oh, thank God"
They didnt school you too well in county did they young blood. I did my 3 and a half flat from 2013-2016. Did no one ever tell you that to go “Behind the wall” (slang for a max) you have to meet certain criteria? First of all, your not gonna touch a max on a 3 year bid unless you are a total security issue and literally throw hands within the first couple days/weeks wherever you land. 6 years-8 years is usually the least amount of time to get sentenced too and end up in a max. Second of all-You said it was a drug crime. Im dont know of a single drug crime thats classified as a violent. Thats another factor that will affect your classification. If your felony is classified as a violent F, than you might end up doing your first year or so in a max if you get 5-6, just because youve already proven you will resort to violence without thinking too much about it.
I mean, I’d have probably been shittin a brick too, but when I went up on my 3 and a half on a violent charge (Robbery in the 2nd) I knew, and was told by many other inmates in county that have been up north before, that as long as I kept my nose clean and wasnt raising hell at every medium, Id never touch a max that bid.
10:10 in the prison drama HBO show Oz, the prison was called Ozwald State Penitentiary. Many of the situations were dramatized.
The whole country does need more prisons C.O's and staff to alleviate overcrowding but it costs money but also needs rehabilitation programs for inmates as well
Had to do some masonry work in Attica. Place is all around scary. I hated working inside spent hours checking tools,equipment and materials in and out was a lot of red tape.
“Non-nonsense”. That’s a new one.
My dad was in Attica my uncle was in Attica and my grandfather was in Attica all in different periods of time but their stories and scars are all the same …
racial tension, human rights being violated and and lack of medical care on top of the everyday violence between inmate gangs and prison guards.
Never went to Attica,but I did 8yrs in the NYS juvenile correctional facilities, like dfy, spodford and trion and Pius 12 and many other places, and I was put in the system cus my mom was a widow who was poor,so they took us away,my life is and was CRAZY I'm 41yrs old now. My mom came from Hungary as a baby in 1959 my father was born in New Jersey in 1927 and had passed away when I was only 3yrs old and my mom had a rough life as well, so she really didn't know what to do after her husband died who was older then her and she had 2 kids already and it just gets deeper from their. I'm a father now and Ive done everything to make sure NYS never gets a hold of my kids, cus NYS will take your kids if you need help it's actually crazy how much control this state has over people.
really interesting
The nations worst prison riot was in fact at PNM main in sante fe, New Mexico. I believe the death toll was 34 by the end of the riot
His buddy claimed he did not know dr. Simon and the va Jessica davies screwed me lol
i forget the title but...HBO made a movie about this roit at some point during the 1990's or 200's
Against the Wall
Attica is a serious place to be
Hard to do time
C.O always ready to put hand on you
I was there 2011-2012
C-block
A- block 5 company
This is were boy become man
Did a 3 year bid in the 70s for criminal neg homicide. Survived the riot. Crazy place. Been clean for almost 1/2 century.
How old would one have to be to be an Attica x-con and still alive?
70s or better
The prison is still in operation, so someone getting out right now would be an Attica ex-con.
I've been in Attica in 2015 - 2017.
Please do a documentary on Baltimore City Jail or BCDC after the State took over, I was there many times in the 90’s and it was like a murder every other day! That place was a Zoo, I’m glad they tore it down!
Hello, thank you for sharing that story, I spent over 20 years going to visit my brother in law at graterford prison and to a new facility called SCI PHOENIX. ( 100 YARDS AWAY. ) IT was brand new . Very nice. , bill cosby was there , I got to see him one n
Time talking to his lawyer, WOW DAVID RUDER is my brother in law, and he has a life sentence for killing a drug dealer. The philly cops said he should have gotten a award , go figure, he's been in since he was 19 or 20 years old, he is now 54 years ,
In Pennsylvania life is life . I have met a lot of good people there ( prisoners & guards ) and it's a very depressing place to be. 😢😢
Dont do crime dont do time..yes i used to be a Criminal in NYS..changed my ways. But i never forget loss of freedom...
I did some time in comstock (Great Meadow Correctional Facility) which isn’t as nationally known as Attica but I’ll be lying if I said I wasn’t scared when I first hit that spot. It was shambolic as fuck there man.
To everyone saying that the inmates deserved to be treated like animals: you make me sick. Not everyone that's in prison is a predator. People make mistakes. Some of those people deserve another chance at life, but if you treat someone like an animal, they're going to become an animal, & if they do get another chance at life onthe outside, they're only going to know how to be an animal.
Why did the lawsuit take around 30 years to settle
Attica! Attica! Attica!
Free cmurder hollywood the governt knows there place dont forget elchapo
Nobody deserves to be treated inhumanly, but prison isn’t supposed to be a luxury resort either. There should be no TV, radios, or internet for prisoners. As long as you’re getting three squares a day, a shower, and 1 hour of activity time, that’s all a prisoner should be entitled to. You make prison too cushy prisoners won’t want to leave as they become accustomed to this lifestyle, especially prisoners with long term sentences.
The easiest way to keep them out is through education and job training. A lot of trade training have been eliminated from prisons. With no job training, how do we expect them to come back and work?
we are already housing people in prisons who want to be there for the housing and food etc.
@@storytimewithunclekumaran5004 my point exactly. They need to make prison an undesirable place to live.
💯 % spot on!
@truckinguy92 why should they not have tv radio or internet?
They don't get money, get to meet anyone new, see family or friends...do you really think someone who got caught smoking weed in the 90s should have the same treatment as a rapist?
Imagine if you had a one bedroom apartment. Then take out the kitchen and living room. Now stay there. For years.
Hardly a "luxury resort"
Your comment about prison population at 17:00 is dishonest and deceptive. Your gave the number for the year 2000. Its currently less than half that. 2000 was a quarter century ago.. I'm definitely not defending the Department of Corrections, but be honest. The prison population in New York is down significantly. In the last decade many prisons here have closed, saving taxpayers money. Recidivism numbers are also down in New York.
They try to make J6 look like Attica 😂
If you’re in max security, rehabilitation is very highly unlikely. The worst of the worst go there, often for not behaving at lesser secure prisons.
That's not exactly true. Your security status is based almost solely on how much time you have left to your minimum release date. More than seven years and you are going to a max, regardless of how dangerous you actually are or how vulnerable you are.
@@TonysMusic1974 You haven't watched many prison TH-camrs. AfterPrisonShow (Joe Guerrero) served 7.5 years for non violent drug charges. He was only in low level prisons
@JoiceVaderd I dont have to. I'll just say that I am VERY familiar with how new york does things. I dont know who you are referring to or what state he was in (or if it was the feds).
@TonysMusic1974 Virginia DOC
Exasterbated? Do you mean exasperated?
Ryan struggles with some pronunciations. A few videos back he used the word debuted, only he prounced the T. So day-bu-ted. I've corrected a few times, but I don't think he reads the comments.
@@AeroGuy07 he sometimes does. We had a back and forth once about his coney island hit piece.
No, he meant "exacerbated". As someone else said, Ryan has difficulty with some pronunciations. But I still find his presentations riveting.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
Really original. You're a genius.
Make prisons great again.
@@AmsterdamHeavy Nah, Make Asylums Great Again
@@uncomfortabletruth2988 Im all for that. The mental health crisis in this country is ignored by pretty much everyone and its a serious issue. Things were better when the state hospitals were open and Im old enough to remember that.
And bring back the un-alive penalty
Imagine going to yard
They are only 5 phone on the yard if you ain’t ready at all
Time ℹ recommend to don’t get lock up
I think that the person who started it should not have forgiven him because he hit a officer and that should be punished.
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As a lot of information is correct, a lot of it is not correct. me and my family live in Attica and the surrounding towns many of our family members have worked at that prison, including my grandfather, and great grandfather as Attica was, at the time, the most maximum security prison in the country, besides Alcatraz house, some of the most violent killers and rapist in the country With the thousands of incident reports that can be pulled up if you submit for the records there are many many reports of violent acts against the guards, visitors and employees of the prison I feel like most of this video is made doing research online and not actually talking to people who served there as I remember stories of family members getting stabbed and assaulted. Most of the problems and that prison were from politicians and state representatives
hey i know people who work here lol
Free cmurder elchapo also diddy cho moes wont take are place
It’s crazy just cause you make a mistake doesn’t mean you deserve to get treated like 💩 cause at the end of the day nobody is perfect so keep that in mind before you start talking crazy
Everything they fought for , they done took now…
I have transported iraqi prisoners and i possess no interest in prisons but earth is definitely a prison. Thy Will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Innocent people can end up in jail, innocent people can end up being lottery millionaires too.
Love your channel. Thumbs down on the new fancy neon and branding
Preacher was crazy 🤪 those c.o were racist
Walking out to the yard was mean as fuck
Negotiations with convicted felons is a thing?!?!? No, a strict response is the only way.
Damn I live 10 min away 😂
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Eh I live in Attica the town
Your pro inmate. Why don't you make your video telling the story of both sides. You end this crap with if you were an inmate send a message. Why not message from both sides??? JO
what about HOT SOUP MUTHAFUKKA!?
Idk how I ended up here. first lol
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Thanks for the one-sided, woke commentary.
George Jackson died on August 21-1971 at eighteen he was arrested there say of stealing seventy dollars from a gas station there give him one year to life i brought the book Blood in my eye Angel Davis Attica is the worse prison today 🎉🎉
Angela Davis tried to get him out one year and then seven years is crazy but open up the door to other prisoners 🎉
It was a sad ending 🎉
165th
All or nothing.
Spinning this to make the prisoners seem like victims is wild
Russia and Belarus still allow guards to beat and torture in jails and prisons. If youre already in prison and concede to guilt and a forfeiture of your rights. After conceding to justice, whoever is lower, wont be happy to be physically beaten down even further and refused rehabilitation. Its easy to be victimized when you give up your rights by committing a crime. But there is a fine line to tread if you dont want to commit a war crime, because the same rules apply in the real world. Think again, but live in the real world and grow up kid.
It seems like your mind cannot discern propaganda, мы всегда будем подглядывать и вас использовать, спосибо что дали украину малыш 🤣
Yes, what many did that put them behind bars is terrible, but treating people like animals turns them into savages.
It is not really a spin. It was the entire cause of the event. The prisoners were extremely blunt and open during and after on what caused this. They made demand lists and tv interviews. Telling their side of history is important or we repeat the mistakes made.
@TheJttv oh the murderers, rapists and pedophile weren't treated so nicely. Sit and spin clowns. You're all jokes
Worst job on Earth keep it
WTF is the music for?
I'm here for information not music
When you make videos, don't include music then. It is very common for videos, movies, TV shows etc. to have music. Kind of an odd thing to be up in arms about.
@@mike79pattonfour agree with me. None with you so far.
All sorts of things are common. Not all of them good.
Wow! Four people!? The 4 more than how many give a shit about weather or not there's music in a video.
@@mike79patton or simply don't bother to express what they think. How many are asking for more music or saying they like the music?
0
@pobinr how many people care? 0
Don’t do the crime if you don’t wanna do the time 🤷.
They took hostages, assaulted guards, tried to escape and were constantly egging them on. wtf you think was gonna happen? Bunch of clowns.
But do the crimes they committed really justify inhumane conditions? I don't think so. Besides, inhumane prison conditions don't do anything but satisfy the American appetite for inmate suffering and the idea of justice necessitating vengeance and wanton cruelty.
That is such an 8th grade mentality. Reality is much more nuanced.
@@TonysMusic1974That's about their emotional and intellectual level.
Prison SHOULD be hard. NO talking. No human touch. No nothing. Your in prison.
@Devin-- Inhumane conditions in prisons don't even work!
Very cheesy B-roll stuff
Can you please stop putting yourself talking on the video. We don’t care about you becoming popular, we just want facts history.
Agreed!
Many of your stories, if not most, are in New York. Do you do history around the country or are your writers so limited, they don't deem other historical locations around the country worthy?
He does a lot of Chicago history.
@@dannydaw59, Ryan has stated in other videos that he grew up in Chicago -- that's probably why.
Inmates not suppose to run the facility. They gave up there rights by getting convicted of crimes they committed. Do your time !
@ticA
I love how Saying Attica incorrectly in the beginning of the video to then fixing yourself proud of you