ANZAC Day tomorrow 25th. Australian New Zealand Army Corps. Our remembrance and recognition of our troops in all the wars and peace keeping. of those who served. At the going down of the sun and in the morn We will remember them Lest We Forget.
Again I will stay home. I'm an American Vietnam Veteran (2/502 Infantry, 101st Airborne). I move to Australia after 9 years US Army ... all my Australian Brothers are now dead. 2 ended it themselves and the rest to cancer... I got lucky I was told as they caught mine early. I'm rated at 100% Disability by the USA. I so miss our Friday piss-ups at the "Oaks" and "Philip's Foot"
I really appreciate the way he did that, I think the stopping and starting can really change the reaction. Listening to a song the whole way through just hits different.
523 Aussie's never came home alive after that war, what for, it gained nothing RIP Diggers, more than 200 were conscripts that had no choice to be there
No you're incorrect, nasho's had to agree to go, they couldn't be sent against their will. But, when you have to stand in front of the boys you've been training with for a year, and asked if you're going to tell them that you're not going to go with them, the nasho's would be embarrassed into agreeing to be deployed.
This song is about the song writer, John Schumann's brother in-law, Mick Storen. He wasn't a conscript, he volunteered and they drew a card from amongst his platoon and it was him that drew the card. It's a song about war and it's horrors and they effects of PTSD. This song came out about 12 months before I joined the Army and it had a very strong effect on me at the time. This song was also very central to the Government finally recognising the Vietnam veterans and an official apology. The way they were treated by some people and the government on their return was deplorable, as you said, you don't take out your frustrations on the people that were doing their job and following orders. But since then people have had a new found respect for Veterans and their sacrifices. To all the Veterans out there, thank you for what you have done, tomorrow (ANZAC Day April 25th) is your day. Remember your lost mates and their sacrifice and reconnecting with your mates. Lest We Forget.
@utha2665 My photo appeared in the local paper during this period saying I had returned from a tour of duty and was continuing on in the Army. My younger sister was at university at the time and was treated very badly by some after the article appeared. One person who stood up for both her and me was someone I went to school with and was very anti the Vietnam War. This surprised me, but as he told me years later. Their fight was with the Government not the people doing their job.
@@daviddixon9458 And I wouldn't have had an issue with someone protesting a war, that is their right, but taking their frustrations out on the troops is just wrong. Kudos to your school friend supporting you despite being anti-Vietnam War and I salute you for your service and sacrifice. I do think though, many people around the world have seen the error of their ways and are more educated on what active service means. This may be because of the media coverage these days.
I posted this elsewhere but want to share it as far and wide as I can. A real life exprience of Vietnam P.T.S.D. My father was never called up... but he had a best friend who was, Brian. As children we would have sleep overs with his children who were the same age as us... 10, 11 or so. Often, more often than I would like to say, Brian would wake us all up in the middle of the night and rush all us children out of the house and behind the outside wall, screaming to get down, get down. He would keep us there for hours to make sure we were safe from an enemy that no longer existed. He was terrifiied that we would be hurt, he was reliving his experience over and over again. His wife would try to calm him down, some times it helped sometimes it didn't. He never hurt us but he was so afraid we would be hurt and had no idea where he was. Brian was a funny and amazing man. We all loved him. He was kind and would always help anyone in need. I never felt unsafe around him, even in those moments. We learnt to adjust. He carried whatever he had experienced with him until he killed himself at the age of 67. He never forgave himself for what he had done, I don't know what he had done, but it left him broken, mostly at night. 42 years later I still think about the Brian I knew when I was 10. Whatever he did, he couldnt live with and it haunted him his entire life. He was only 19.
The thing that probably hurt most was being treated as less than by veterans of earlier wars because there was no actual declaration of war, so they weren’t considered’proper’ veterans by the others, let alone the government, until much, much later.
My father fought in PNG in WW2 and when he came home was one of the founding members of our local RSL. After 6RAR (local battalion) came home following their first tour of Vietnam which included the Battle of Long Tan he resigned from the committee in disgust after the President and Secretary passed a motion refusing to allow the 6RAR vets to march on Anzac Day; the punchline was although those two committee members were WW2 "veterans" neither saw combat and one never even left Australia.
Well done regarding your knowledgeable comments regarding the Vietnam War's negative psychological, emotional and physical fallout on Australian soldiers who participated in it , voluntarily or by conscription. Many people from other countries do not even know that Aussies went to fight in Vietnam.
My grandfather fought in WWI, my father in WWII and my brother was getting to the age for conscription. This war was on our tv's every night at dinner time. Very emotional for me now at the age of 68. Horror, horror, horror
I had two brothers that went to Vietnam, more that once and both were changed,were never the same, nightmares and dramas. Both die from cancer ,that was the doctor say were from agent orange. One passed at 58 and the other suffered on till he was in his early 70s. Heart breaking to see the mental trauma they suffered after being there. That song Alway makes me cry for them. Bev Aussie
When the diggers returned home from Vietnam after their tour was over, they were treated in the most appalling manner by a large number of their fellow Australians, who were violently opposed to the war. The Australian politicians who made up the government that committed these young men to serve in Vietnam, did nothing to help them on their return, in fact they scuttled away, and let the young diggers take the heat, for the decisions that they made.
My brother who I never knew thanks to war . He was 12 years older than me in 1968 and his birthday never came up, so he joined the regular army . Miss him.
This is an intensely moving song, no matter what your opinions of Australia's involvement in the Vietnam War may be. I was lucky enough not to have been conscripted, but one of my cousins (a newly qualified doctor) was.
Yes .. ANZAC were not conscripts. They actually had something to fight for .. Many may not like it however .. They fought for God King and Country .. To ensure our inheritance
This song was what first brought attention to PTSD in soldiers. There is another video where songwriter, John Schumann tells the story of a Vet who had been dismissed by so many doctors when seeking help for his symptoms, gaslighted. When he heard this song, he was driving. He had to pull over and he cried, knowing he was not alone. th-cam.com/video/XwFDncI_i0U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=I2_-JU5qITL6N6bd
The Vietnam war was a war that should never have been fought. The people of Vietnam wanted rid of their currupt government. Too many good people died for nothing.
In 2005 the singer (John Schumann) and Skip Hop band The Herd (Skip Hop = Aussie Hip Hop) did a remix version, many don't appreciate it but I really liked it. When the Remix version was released they also released this version of the song (there is an OG version to this song from 1980's), and so I'd hear the different versions played on the radio a lot while I worked as a driver.
I'm a 39 year old Aussie. Respect to those who in this case were most likely forced to serve. My late father wanted to serve like his father (Lancaster bomber crew) had WW2. He worked as a pattern maker carving molds for gear used mostly in ship building so he did his part while staying home. Thankfully or my sister and I might not have been born.
Aussie Gina Hear. Thank You. For Your Watching It. Listening To It. I Love You Showing You Care. Love You For Being You. My Kind Brother. My Father Was AirForce. My Husband's Father Was A Machine Gunner. They Both Came Home But Other Family And Friend's Did Not. Over 160.000+. Horse's Went To War. BUT Only ONE HORSE CAME HOME. Most Of The Horse's Were From My Home Town. Australia. "Queensland. My Home "City. Brisbane". I Am 1. Of 13. Children. We As We Speck. Have A Lot Of Our Family And Friend's Serving. In All. Right Across The ALL. Thank You My Brother. By. Lest We Forget. Lot's Of Love. To All Right Across This Whole Wide World. Love Always.🎼💖🎼
Don't forget that 'Frankie kicked a mine the day that mankind kicked the moon', on July 20, 1969. This makes 'He was going home in June' more poignant because Frankie stayed on and paid the ultimate price.
I was 14 in 1969 and remember the moon landing and the war in Vietnam. It seemed to go on forever. I remember worrying that it'd still be going on when my brother was old enough to be sent over there. This is a beautiful, sad song.
This is a fallacy that has been repeated ad infinitum. 6 RAR arrived in Vietnam on the 8th May 1969, the incident referred to in the song occurred just over two months later on the 21st July 1969 therefore they had nearly another 10 months of their tour left so no Frankie (Francis Hunt) did not "stay on". The true story is that it wasn't Frankie who was killed, however he was severely wounded and repatriated the following day the 22 July 1969. June was simply poetic licence to rhyme with moon.
love this song, one of the most powerful descriptions I have heard. I do love the video too - really clever! Somehow though together they pull me out of the experience of the song? Props to the director though - it seems to work for everyone else. ;)
That clip shows all the trickers that brings everything back Anzac day for our military tomorrow Its a public holiday tomorrow so public can show their respected As the soldiers remember they're fall mates by marching all main streets in the country After the morning memorial service Your spot on they don't chose but sent by the country and are treated like 💩 from government's As well some in society who don't have the guts to stand up for the country or the people in it Cheers mate 🦘🇦🇺👍
It's a *PRIVELEGE* for Britain to have allies of such high calibre as the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians. *KNOW THIS- WE HAVE COMPLETE AND UTTER FAITH AND TRUST IN YOU. THERE ARE NONE BETTER,* *RESPECT TO THE ANZACS!*
Lest we forget. There is a live version of this song that just gives me chills every time I listen to it. The slightly different intonations on the delivery of the lyrics is a ground breaker
"It's a song about two mates of mine who went to Vietnam, came back Agent Orange victims. The title "A Walk in the Light Green" stems from the fact that when the Australian soldiers in Vietnam were given their missions, they looked at the areas where they'd be working in on the map and if it was dark green on the map, then there was cause for some consolation, because dark green meant thick jungle, lots of cover, and there were no mines. If they were working in areas that were light green on the map, that meant light jungle, not much cover, and heaps of mines. This is a song for Mick and Frankie. It's called "A walk in the light green". John Schumann (Redgum). A direct quote from a live version of this song I have. ANZAC Day today. We don't KNOW them all, but we OWE them all. Rest In Peace Digger. Lest We Forget.
I recommend you also do -Eric Bogle - The Band Played Waltzing Matilda - This song was written to remember the ANZACs that fought at Gallipoli, WWI 1915. 'Lest We Forget' (if you do do a reaction, please do the one that has the old black and white photos)
Eric's song explains the British and French Gallipoli experience, not the Australian experience. The British landing was heavily defended with 4 Victoria Crosses being awarded for the landing.
@@daviddixon9458 can't agree with you there, Eric wrote this song about the ANZACs - after he saw his first ANZAC parade in Canberra 1971, apart from the song having 'Waltzing Matilda' in the title, some of the lines include 'the Murrays Green basin' 'blew me right back to Australia,' and landing at 'Circular Quay' - can't get more Aussie than that, - the photos in the 'b&W' clip may not be ANZACs, but the song is,
Jay you are correct in what you say, but the campaign explained in his song was based on the British experience. Only history needs like would pick on this. Never the less it is still a bloody good song.
@@daviddixon9458 Guessing you aren't Aussie or NZ - Early on the morning of 25 April 1915, Allied forces landed on the Gallipoli peninsula in Ottoman Türkiye. The British Army landed at Cape Helles. Troops of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) landed north of Gaba Tepe (Kabatepe) headland, on a beach later called 'Anzac Cove' - there an interview with Eric where he says he wrote this song about the ANZACs ..
@jayneattherock1083 I am Australian who had family members fight at Gallipoli. I am also a former Army Officer who studied the Gallipoli campaign. When the ANZACs landed, they, at first, faced light, well directed opposition. It wasn't until later that day that the Turks were able to get reinforcements to the landing sites. The site was able to be defended by a small number of rifle men and machine gunners. Attaturk, the Turkish commander, told his men they were not to fight for Turkey but to die for Turkey. Where the British landed was strongly defended. On top of that, the landing tactics used by the British led to very high casualties. When I listen to that wonderful song, it sounds like he was describing the heavily opposed British landings. This is understandable as Eric is British, and it is most likely he learnt British history. When studying this campaign, the researcher sees it was a campaign of missed opportunities, poor planning, and in some cases, poor leadership. Also, researchers need to remember this was the first opposed landing Britain had faced since 1812. Remember, even though the ANZACs were involved, the landing was planned and commanded by the British.
As an Aussie who watched her generation leave school and get sucked into that horror, I can only say I'm glad that people today 2024 are still able to hear what it was like for young men back then. Zoomers like to think that Boomers had it easy. That's BS.
My job in Vietnam was as a Mathemetician who flew in B-52s and radioed co-prdinates to the Yankees in Saigon. They would then command the bombadier to release thousands of tons onto villages the other side of the Mekong ( Cambodia ). I couldn't live with it morally and got out as fast as I could. General Westmoreland was the " burn baby burn" general who attempted to win this war. No one's a winner in war. I knew 5 forward scouts from my city and nearby area, 4 did not survive. I hated war and still do. Now Vietnam is a place we accept citizens from, am going back this year because the people are gentle souls, the food is great, and , they like a beer.
The Military Alliance called ANZUS between the USA, Australia and New Zealand brought us into the Vietnam War. French Indo China was falling apart. There was a fear of China's influence in the region in the 1960s. The Jungle War was difficult and became very unpopular. The South Vietnamese struggled to fight the North Vietnamese. The War for ANZUS allies ended badly and the returned soldiers had a terrible time as a victory wasn't secured. They were left with health issues because of Agent Orange and PTSD. The Government's support to these men and women was lacking. It's only been in the last 30 years or less that recognition has been done.
If only the French had fought for their own country as they did for their overseas colonies. Instead of handing power over to the locals it duped the Eisenhower administration believing a war of independence was a fight against communism resulting in this war.
As I recall this song was the first time an artiste expressed sympathy for the Vietnam vets. Until this, all songs were against Vietnam war in general, and by implication the servicemen involved. As a teen I too was strongly against the war. I mean why didn't they just refuse to go? I still think the war was a mistake, but I don't judge the soldiers. Under different circumstances I could have been one of these men.
Imagine being 19, having been told to go to a country to kill people you have never met, done nothing to you and you to them, just because some US president said we can make some money. And then leave in defeat.
There is one line that always annoys me cos it is false, 'and the ANZAC legend didn't mention mud and blood and tears', Yes it bloody well did. The Flanders mud is well known to ANZACs folklore. And blood and tears - my regiment, a descendant regiment of the 8th Light Horse Regiment - cut to pieces within minutes at the Battle of the Nek, Gallipoli. Two lines of total of three hundred men, within 4 minutes, over half were dead from the futile bayonet charge including the CO Lt Col Alex White. The 10th Light Horse followed soon after with a similar result. Brit unit, the Cheshires were due to follow the 10th but finally common sense head prevailed and the Charge was cancelled. The carnage was so terrible, 8th and 10th Light Horse were pulled out the front line trenches and back to the beaches to recover.
Another raw and moving song about the ANZACS in the First WW is "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" by Eric Bogle...I can highly recommend you react to it.
Yes it's Vietmam and they didn't get coming home Parade in fact they got heckled weren't allowed to join RSL didn't get thier medals for 20 years and they were conscripts so they didn't get any choice..if yoy had a certain birthday like chook lotto you were chosen
I was looking after the Melbourne Museum one night & found in the basement storage area the Machine (Like the Lotto Tumbler) that chose the Birthdays of the next conscripts, gave me the chills looking at it.
Some units such as Battalions did, smaller units and individuals did not. I joined the RSL shortly after returning as did a number of others that I know. Medals due were issued before your return to Australia. Ex Viet Vet and NS.
The trauma that our Vietnam vets suffered was made worse by the fact that they were treated like shit when they came home. Thank you all for your service, and to those no longer with us, lest we forget.
This official video of Redgum's song has music which really pulls the emotional strings - "I was only 19"... th-cam.com/video/mGDhzVi1bqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cfLQ-AdfPiVtJ-4Z
Yeah, they were heros. A lot of them had no choice but to go. Their birth date was drawn out of a barrel (the type of raffle that you don't want to win). My brother joined the RAAF to avoid being drafted into the army, figuring that he'd be safer in the air force. He ended up spending 20 years in the RAAF.
This song by John Schuman is about the Vietnam conflict. Might I suggest you view Eric Bogle's song 'And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda' about WW1. Very moving. < th-cam.com/video/cnFzCmAyOp8/w-d-xo.html >
For the first part of Australia' involvement in the Vietnam war, the government would not repatriate the bodies of Australian soldiers who had been killed. It was only after major uproar by the people of Australia, in particular the families of those soldiers, that the Australian government changed this ridiculous policy allowing the families to bury their own sons. Michael Dillon, Perth Western Australia
Thank you for your understanding and kind words. Many of those veterans were conscripted to serve/ And yes when our soldiers came home they were ostracised by many ignorant people. Even told not to wear their uniforms as many were spat on and abused. War is hell. That Agent Orange they mention wa sprayed by US choppers supposedly to kill the mosquitoes in the jungles but the effects on the soldiers were felt years and years later. Nothing seems to be learned from wars...today it's killing thousands of innocent people....men, wpmen, and children.
it's a sshame - it's not the original official video made for this song, created by the band Redgum, much more emotive and has such a better and stronger impact.
🕊️ 🤗 I lived through war. I get this song. I get it that it was tragic loss of life caused by war & conflict and caused suffering. This song moves me because the lyrics are poignant and sung with such conviction. We need more anthem like songs to actually add lyrics to also condemn those who give orders for war & conflict. If we didn't have war & conflict in the first place we could prevent this sort of loss, pain and suffering
I should also have added, that one of the main reasons that Australia became involved in the Vietnam war and sent, mostly, conscripted soldiers to fight (and die ) was because the powerful lobby group called the Catholic Church lobbied the Australian government of the day, at the request of the South Vietamese president (a Catholic himself) to send troops to help preserve the Catholic religion which was in danger of being taken over by non-catholic North Vietnamese. Michael Dillon, Perth Western Australia.
Australia's Vietnam forces were often conscripts. Conscription was introduced to enlarge the availability of troops to send to what was essentially America's war in SEA. Their birthdates were drawn from a barrel - just random, and so awful. I and lots of Aussies did not and do not support Australia's knee jerk responses to being invited / expected to join in America's wars. No alliance is worth it.
As a Brit, I just think Aussies role in the world is to be in the frontline. We don't take Aussies all that seriously over here in the UK. It's almost laughable to even give a shit about this song.
These young men were conscripted to go to war, no choice, war or gaol, hence the change to the voting age here, if you want to take the 18 year olds, they should be able to vote on the government who want to send them off
Australian conscripts did not have to go Vietnam. They were given a choice. Most went because of the pressure applied by the Army and their fellow soldiers. At least, that is what I understood when my name went into the ballot, fortunately my birth date was not selected.
@@blueycarlton From a summary of the National Service Act as prepared by the AWM. All national servicemen were liable for military service in Australia and overseas, or 'special overseas service', while with the Army full-time. Officially, national servicemen could not be posted according to their wishes and therefore could not choose whether or not they served in Vietnam, although a national serviceman could apply to his commanding officer to remain in Australia on compassionate grounds. Been there, done that. Ex Viet Vet and NS.
@daviddou1408 check your facts . Why do you think you are of age at 18 and not 21, because of conscription. Mainly mothers, if they are enough to go to war they are old enough to vote
@@andrewbellamy575 I did check my facts, back in 1967 when I was conscripted, at the age of 20. One source the NAA "The conscription ‘lottery’ In November 1964, the Australian Government led by Prime Minister Robert Menzies introduced a scheme of selective conscription known as national service. The scheme was introduced under the National Service Act 1964 and was designed to create an army of 40,000 full-time soldiers. Selective conscription meant that a certain number of 20-year-old Australian men would be chosen to serve in the Australian army." Time for you to get off it and do some factual research yourself instead of listening to fairy tales. Another the AWM "The National Service scheme was introduced by the Menzies Government in November 1964 and operated until December 1972, when the newly elected Whitlam Labor Government suspended it. The scheme was based on a birthday ballot of twenty-year-old men who had registered their names with the Department of Labour and National Service (DLNS)." National Service 1967/1969, RAA, Vietnam 1968/1969.
ANZAC day today. Respect to all our Service men and women, past and present
Appreciate that on behalf of Both of my sons. 🇦🇺
❤❤❤
ANZAC Day tomorrow 25th. Australian New Zealand Army Corps. Our remembrance and recognition of our troops in all the wars and peace keeping. of those who served.
At the going down of the sun and in the morn
We will remember them
Lest We Forget.
We will remember them
We will remember them
Again I will stay home. I'm an American Vietnam Veteran (2/502 Infantry, 101st Airborne). I move to Australia after 9 years US Army ... all my Australian Brothers are now dead. 2 ended it themselves and the rest to cancer... I got lucky I was told as they caught mine early. I'm rated at 100% Disability by the USA. I so miss our Friday piss-ups at the "Oaks" and "Philip's Foot"
Why three million Vietnamese who never harmed any of us had to die, and us along with them is beyond reasoning. The US is like the world's cancer.
I love that you just sat back, watched it all the way through, and then analysed it. Thank you, that feels very respectful. 🇦🇺
I really appreciate the way he did that, I think the stopping and starting can really change the reaction. Listening to a song the whole way through just hits different.
God bless all our past and present service men & women 🙏🏻❤️
523 Aussie's never came home alive after that war, what for, it gained nothing RIP Diggers, more than 200 were conscripts that had no choice to be there
Lest we forget.
No you're incorrect, nasho's had to agree to go, they couldn't be sent against their will. But, when you have to stand in front of the boys you've been training with for a year, and asked if you're going to tell them that you're not going to go with them, the nasho's would be embarrassed into agreeing to be deployed.
@@stephenanthony6508 Correct.
Australia in general shouldn't have been there to begin with. But our politicians basically make us lap dogs to the US.
@@stephenanthony6508 Many vets will say they had no choice. They may very well mean exactly what you are saying.
This song is about the song writer, John Schumann's brother in-law, Mick Storen. He wasn't a conscript, he volunteered and they drew a card from amongst his platoon and it was him that drew the card. It's a song about war and it's horrors and they effects of PTSD.
This song came out about 12 months before I joined the Army and it had a very strong effect on me at the time. This song was also very central to the Government finally recognising the Vietnam veterans and an official apology. The way they were treated by some people and the government on their return was deplorable, as you said, you don't take out your frustrations on the people that were doing their job and following orders. But since then people have had a new found respect for Veterans and their sacrifices.
To all the Veterans out there, thank you for what you have done, tomorrow (ANZAC Day April 25th) is your day. Remember your lost mates and their sacrifice and reconnecting with your mates. Lest We Forget.
We will remember them
@utha2665 My photo appeared in the local paper during this period saying I had returned from a tour of duty and was continuing on in the Army. My younger sister was at university at the time and was treated very badly by some after the article appeared. One person who stood up for both her and me was someone I went to school with and was very anti the Vietnam War. This surprised me, but as he told me years later. Their fight was with the Government not the people doing their job.
@@daviddixon9458 And I wouldn't have had an issue with someone protesting a war, that is their right, but taking their frustrations out on the troops is just wrong. Kudos to your school friend supporting you despite being anti-Vietnam War and I salute you for your service and sacrifice. I do think though, many people around the world have seen the error of their ways and are more educated on what active service means. This may be because of the media coverage these days.
I posted this elsewhere but want to share it as far and wide as I can.
A real life exprience of Vietnam P.T.S.D.
My father was never called up... but he had a best friend who was, Brian.
As children we would have sleep overs with his children who were the same age as us... 10, 11 or so.
Often, more often than I would like to say, Brian would wake us all up in the middle of the night and rush all us children out of the house and behind the outside wall, screaming to get down, get down.
He would keep us there for hours to make sure we were safe from an enemy that no longer existed.
He was terrifiied that we would be hurt, he was reliving his experience over and over again.
His wife would try to calm him down, some times it helped sometimes it didn't.
He never hurt us but he was so afraid we would be hurt and had no idea where he was.
Brian was a funny and amazing man. We all loved him. He was kind and would always help anyone in need. I never felt unsafe around him, even in those moments. We learnt to adjust.
He carried whatever he had experienced with him until he killed himself at the age of 67.
He never forgave himself for what he had done, I don't know what he had done, but it left him broken, mostly at night.
42 years later I still think about the Brian I knew when I was 10.
Whatever he did, he couldnt live with and it haunted him his entire life.
He was only 19.
That is a powerful example of the trauma Brian and all who when to Vietnam suffered 😕
Dont forget our Kiwi comrads.❤❤
The thing that probably hurt most was being treated as less than by veterans of earlier wars because there was no actual declaration of war, so they weren’t considered’proper’ veterans by the others, let alone the government, until much, much later.
My father fought in PNG in WW2 and when he came home was one of the founding members of our local RSL. After 6RAR (local battalion) came home following their first tour of Vietnam which included the Battle of Long Tan he resigned from the committee in disgust after the President and Secretary passed a motion refusing to allow the 6RAR vets to march on Anzac Day; the punchline was although those two committee members were WW2 "veterans" neither saw combat and one never even left Australia.
Well done regarding your knowledgeable comments regarding the Vietnam War's negative psychological, emotional and physical fallout on Australian soldiers who participated in it , voluntarily or by conscription. Many people from other countries do not even know that Aussies went to fight in Vietnam.
That is an acoustic version, you should listen to the original release version that we all grew up on in the 80s
My grandfather fought in WWI, my father in WWII and my brother was getting to the age for conscription. This war was on our tv's every night at dinner time. Very emotional for me now at the age of 68. Horror, horror, horror
Beautiful, honest reaction from a young bloke (I'm 63) I have hope for the future. And yes, it's an absolutely iconic song here in Oz. Stay safe.
I had two brothers that went to Vietnam, more that once and both were changed,were never the same, nightmares and dramas. Both die from cancer ,that was the doctor say were from agent orange. One passed at 58 and the other suffered on till he was in his early 70s. Heart breaking to see the mental trauma they suffered after being there. That song Alway makes me cry for them. Bev Aussie
I thank you from a former Vietnam 68/69 and still it is around today.
When the diggers returned home from Vietnam after their tour was over, they were treated in the most appalling manner by a large number of their fellow Australians, who were violently opposed to the war.
The Australian politicians who made up the government that committed these young men to serve in Vietnam, did nothing to help them on their return, in fact they scuttled away, and let the young diggers take the heat, for the decisions that they made.
My brother who I never knew thanks to war . He was 12 years older than me in 1968 and his birthday never came up, so he joined the regular army .
Miss him.
This is an intensely moving song, no matter what your opinions of Australia's involvement in the Vietnam War may be. I was lucky enough not to have been conscripted, but one of my cousins (a newly qualified doctor) was.
It's ANZAC Day here in Aust & NZ. Dawn service for 10s of 1000s. Teens as young as 14 managed to convince recruiters they were older & went to WW1
Yes .. ANZAC were not conscripts. They actually had something to fight for .. Many may not like it however .. They fought for God King and Country .. To ensure our inheritance
Great song, the imagery it creates is powerfull.
This song was what first brought attention to PTSD in soldiers. There is another video where songwriter, John Schumann tells the story of a Vet who had been dismissed by so many doctors when seeking help for his symptoms, gaslighted. When he heard this song, he was driving. He had to pull over and he cried, knowing he was not alone.
th-cam.com/video/XwFDncI_i0U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=I2_-JU5qITL6N6bd
I think the original black and white version has more impact. Thanks for your comments from a proud Aussie.
It always gets me chocked up
VB - Aussie beer !
Puckapunyal - Australian army training facility
Tinnies - cans of beer (usually VB - Victoria bitter)
Thanks from Mr UJ RAN (Retd).
I was only 19 & in the RANC when this came out.
The Vietnam war was a war that should never have been fought. The people of Vietnam wanted rid of their currupt government. Too many good people died for nothing.
ANZAC Day today…and this song still makes me cry all these years later 😢
In 2005 the singer (John Schumann) and Skip Hop band The Herd (Skip Hop = Aussie Hip Hop) did a remix version, many don't appreciate it but I really liked it. When the Remix version was released they also released this version of the song (there is an OG version to this song from 1980's), and so I'd hear the different versions played on the radio a lot while I worked as a driver.
Thank you to all servicemen and women for your service.
Great, emotional song, but I do prefer the original version, very similar but just rawer
There’s a better film clip of original footage not a dramatised version also.
I'm a 39 year old Aussie. Respect to those who in this case were most likely forced to serve.
My late father wanted to serve like his father (Lancaster bomber crew) had WW2. He worked as a pattern maker carving molds for gear used mostly in ship building so he did his part while staying home. Thankfully or my sister and I might not have been born.
No one wase forced to serve, get a grip
@@charlieroberts7775 Wake up and get a grip, National Service was a voluntary gig!
Thank you for not interrupting the song and keeping your comments to the end. My brother nearly was c9nscripted into this war. Aussie
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From Australia there legends to us
Thank you for the respect you showed mate. It’s ANZAC day here in Australia too.
Lest We Forget.
Don't forget that 'Frankie kicked a mine the day that mankind kicked the moon', on July 20, 1969.
This makes 'He was going home in June' more poignant because Frankie stayed on and paid the ultimate price.
That breaks me up every time I hear this song. 😢😢😢
I was 14 in 1969 and remember the moon landing and the war in Vietnam. It seemed to go on forever. I remember worrying that it'd still be going on when my brother was old enough to be sent over there.
This is a beautiful, sad song.
This is a fallacy that has been repeated ad infinitum.
6 RAR arrived in Vietnam on the 8th May 1969, the incident referred to in the song occurred just over two months later on the 21st July 1969 therefore they had nearly another 10 months of their tour left so no Frankie (Francis Hunt) did not "stay on". The true story is that it wasn't Frankie who was killed, however he was severely wounded and repatriated the following day
the 22 July 1969.
June was simply poetic licence to rhyme with moon.
It was a bugger of a time. Never get over it. And the way we were treated on our return was terrible.
Thank you for your service.
love this song, one of the most powerful descriptions I have heard. I do love the video too - really clever! Somehow though together they pull me out of the experience of the song? Props to the director though - it seems to work for everyone else. ;)
That clip shows all the trickers that brings everything back
Anzac day for our military tomorrow
Its a public holiday tomorrow so public can show their respected
As the soldiers remember they're fall mates by marching all main streets in the country
After the morning memorial service
Your spot on they don't chose but sent by the country and are treated like 💩 from government's
As well some in society who don't have the guts to stand up for the country or the people in it
Cheers mate 🦘🇦🇺👍
Good on ya mate for letting the song play it's entirety and paying respect afterwards.
There was also national service. It was by a number ballot.
National service stopped in 1974.
It's a *PRIVELEGE* for Britain to have allies of such high calibre as the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians. *KNOW THIS- WE HAVE COMPLETE AND UTTER FAITH AND TRUST IN YOU. THERE ARE NONE BETTER,*
*RESPECT TO THE ANZACS!*
Much respect to these young men
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OOOOFFFFFF, this song gets me EVERY TIME 😰
Thank you for your service to all our men and women in uniform.
We are not at war with anyone and we are not the US. Please don’t do this to us. It’s just BS.
Lest we forget. There is a live version of this song that just gives me chills every time I listen to it. The slightly different intonations on the delivery of the lyrics is a ground breaker
The siger of Redgum written this song about his brother in law who did serve & went to Vietnam
ANZAC day or not, our veterans deserve the best everywhere, not only in Australia
One of the best anti war songs ever written. Up there with “the band played waltzing Matilda.
this song made me cry when i first heard it
"It's a song about two mates of mine who went to Vietnam, came back Agent Orange victims. The title "A Walk in the Light Green" stems from the fact that when the Australian soldiers in Vietnam were given their missions, they looked at the areas where they'd be working in on the map and if it was dark green on the map, then there was cause for some consolation, because dark green meant thick jungle, lots of cover, and there were no mines. If they were working in areas that were light green on the map, that meant light jungle, not much cover, and heaps of mines. This is a song for Mick and Frankie. It's called "A walk in the light green". John Schumann (Redgum). A direct quote from a live version of this song I have. ANZAC Day today. We don't KNOW them all, but we OWE them all. Rest In Peace Digger. Lest We Forget.
I recommend you also do -Eric Bogle - The Band Played Waltzing Matilda - This song was written to remember the ANZACs that fought at Gallipoli, WWI 1915. 'Lest We Forget' (if you do do a reaction, please do the one that has the old black and white photos)
Eric's song explains the British and French Gallipoli experience, not the Australian experience. The British landing was heavily defended with 4 Victoria Crosses being awarded for the landing.
@@daviddixon9458 can't agree with you there, Eric wrote this song about the ANZACs - after he saw his first ANZAC parade in Canberra 1971, apart from the song having 'Waltzing Matilda' in the title, some of the lines include 'the Murrays Green basin' 'blew me right back to Australia,' and landing at 'Circular Quay' - can't get more Aussie than that, - the photos in the 'b&W' clip may not be ANZACs, but the song is,
Jay you are correct in what you say, but the campaign explained in his song was based on the British experience. Only history needs like would pick on this. Never the less it is still a bloody good song.
@@daviddixon9458 Guessing you aren't Aussie or NZ - Early on the morning of 25 April 1915, Allied forces landed on the Gallipoli peninsula in Ottoman Türkiye. The British Army landed at Cape Helles. Troops of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) landed north of Gaba Tepe (Kabatepe) headland, on a beach later called 'Anzac Cove' - there an interview with Eric where he says he wrote this song about the ANZACs ..
@jayneattherock1083 I am Australian who had family members fight at Gallipoli. I am also a former Army Officer who studied the Gallipoli campaign. When the ANZACs landed, they, at first, faced light, well directed opposition. It wasn't until later that day that the Turks were able to get reinforcements to the landing sites. The site was able to be defended by a small number of rifle men and machine gunners. Attaturk, the Turkish commander, told his men they were not to fight for Turkey but to die for Turkey. Where the British landed was strongly defended. On top of that, the landing tactics used by the British led to very high casualties. When I listen to that wonderful song, it sounds like he was describing the heavily opposed British landings. This is understandable as Eric is British, and it is most likely he learnt British history. When studying this campaign, the researcher sees it was a campaign of missed opportunities, poor planning, and in some cases, poor leadership. Also, researchers need to remember this was the first opposed landing Britain had faced since 1812. Remember, even though the ANZACs were involved, the landing was planned and commanded by the British.
Also and the band played waltzing matilda was written about men coming back from world war 1
Eric Bogle, listened to it this morning.
Lest we forget ❤
As an Aussie who watched her generation leave school and get sucked into that horror, I can only say I'm glad that people today 2024 are still able to hear what it was like for young men back then. Zoomers like to think that Boomers had it easy. That's BS.
Cry everytime
My job in Vietnam was as a Mathemetician who flew in B-52s and radioed co-prdinates to the Yankees in Saigon. They would then command the bombadier to release thousands of tons onto villages the other side of the Mekong ( Cambodia ). I couldn't live with it morally and got out as fast as I could. General Westmoreland was the " burn baby burn" general who attempted to win this war. No one's a winner in war. I knew 5 forward scouts from my city and nearby area, 4 did not survive. I hated war and still do. Now Vietnam is a place we accept citizens from, am going back this year because the people are gentle souls, the food is great, and , they like a beer.
The B-52 was nicked named the monkey killer. Have a great trip I hope they don't put ice in their beer like Filios do.
Least we forget
25th April today
Thinking about the sacrifice
My god!!!😢
The Military Alliance called ANZUS between the USA, Australia and New Zealand brought us into the Vietnam War. French Indo China was falling apart. There was a fear of China's influence in the region in the 1960s. The Jungle War was difficult and became very unpopular. The South Vietnamese struggled to fight the North Vietnamese. The War for ANZUS allies ended badly and the returned soldiers had a terrible time as a victory wasn't secured. They were left with health issues because of Agent Orange and PTSD. The Government's support to these men and women was lacking. It's only been in the last 30 years or less that recognition has been done.
If only the French had fought for their own country as they did for their overseas colonies. Instead of handing power over to the locals it duped the Eisenhower administration believing a war of independence was a fight against communism resulting in this war.
As I recall this song was the first time an artiste expressed sympathy for the Vietnam vets. Until this, all songs were against Vietnam war in general, and by implication the servicemen involved. As a teen I too was strongly against the war. I mean why didn't they just refuse to go?
I still think the war was a mistake, but I don't judge the soldiers. Under different circumstances I could have been one of these men.
Imagine being 19, having been told to go to a country to kill people you have never met, done nothing to you and you to them, just because some US president said we can make some money. And then leave in defeat.
There is one line that always annoys me cos it is false, 'and the ANZAC legend didn't mention mud and blood and tears', Yes it bloody well did. The Flanders mud is well known to ANZACs folklore. And blood and tears - my regiment, a descendant regiment of the 8th Light Horse Regiment - cut to pieces within minutes at the Battle of the Nek, Gallipoli. Two lines of total of three hundred men, within 4 minutes, over half were dead from the futile bayonet charge including the CO Lt Col Alex White. The 10th Light Horse followed soon after with a similar result. Brit unit, the Cheshires were due to follow the 10th but finally common sense head prevailed and the Charge was cancelled. The carnage was so terrible, 8th and 10th Light Horse were pulled out the front line trenches and back to the beaches to recover.
Ronald everingham 1916-11-09
Place of embarkation Sydney
Another raw and moving song about the ANZACS in the First WW is "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" by Eric Bogle...I can highly recommend you react to it.
Great song, great choice Zanoz especially just before ANZAC Day tomorrow. When we will remember them.
At the going down of the sun, we will remember them! Lest we forget! RIP to all who lost their lives in this senseless war!
*At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
Thank you God bless from Australia 🇦🇺
Yes it's Vietmam and they didn't get coming home Parade in fact they got heckled weren't allowed to join RSL didn't get thier medals for 20 years and they were conscripts so they didn't get any choice..if yoy had a certain birthday like chook lotto you were chosen
I was looking after the Melbourne Museum one night & found in the basement storage area the Machine (Like the Lotto Tumbler) that chose the Birthdays of the next conscripts, gave me the chills looking at it.
Some units such as Battalions did, smaller units and individuals did not. I joined the RSL shortly after returning as did a number of others that I know. Medals due were issued before your return to Australia.
Ex Viet Vet and NS.
The trauma that our Vietnam vets suffered was made worse by the fact that they were treated like shit when they came home. Thank you all for your service, and to those no longer with us, lest we forget.
This official video of Redgum's song has music which really pulls the emotional strings - "I was only 19"... th-cam.com/video/mGDhzVi1bqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cfLQ-AdfPiVtJ-4Z
I cry when I hear this song.
Yeah, they were heros. A lot of them had no choice but to go. Their birth date was drawn out of a barrel (the type of raffle that you don't want to win). My brother joined the RAAF to avoid being drafted into the army, figuring that he'd be safer in the air force. He ended up spending 20 years in the RAAF.
This song by John Schuman is about the Vietnam conflict. Might I suggest you view Eric Bogle's song 'And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda' about WW1. Very moving. < th-cam.com/video/cnFzCmAyOp8/w-d-xo.html >
I'm an ex digger, this gets me everytime.
For the first part of Australia' involvement in the Vietnam war, the government would not repatriate the bodies of Australian soldiers who had been killed. It was only after major uproar by the people of Australia, in particular the families of those soldiers, that the Australian government changed this ridiculous policy allowing the families to bury their own sons.
Michael Dillon, Perth Western Australia
Thank you for your understanding and kind words. Many of those veterans were conscripted to serve/ And yes when our soldiers came home they were ostracised by many ignorant people. Even told not to wear their uniforms as many were spat on and abused. War is hell. That Agent Orange they mention wa sprayed by US choppers supposedly to kill the mosquitoes in the jungles but the effects on the soldiers were felt years and years later. Nothing seems to be learned from wars...today it's killing thousands of innocent people....men, wpmen, and children.
Agent Orange was used to kill the jungle so the enemy could not hide in the forests. Not kill mosquitoes.
Approx. 25% of us were conscripts and Agent Orange, one of many of the "Rainbow Chemicals" , was a defoliant not an insecticide.
@@daviddou1408 God bless you sir....Thank you for your service....Hope all is well for you. 💚💛
You should watch the original version or the one were he tells why he wrote this song
it's a sshame - it's not the original official video made for this song, created by the band Redgum, much more emotive and has such a better and stronger impact.
Canungra and Shoalwater Bay are special forces training bases. Hell on earth. V.B. is nasty beer in "tinnies"... cans.
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🕊️ 🤗 I lived through war. I get this song. I get it that it was tragic loss of life caused by war & conflict and caused suffering. This song moves me because the lyrics are poignant and sung with such conviction. We need more anthem like songs to actually add lyrics to also condemn those who give orders for war & conflict. If we didn't have war & conflict in the first place we could prevent this sort of loss, pain and suffering
You need to watch The band played waltzing Matilda 😊
Yes! Cry every time. War sucks. Old men sending young men to be slaughtered.
I should also have added, that one of the main reasons that Australia became involved in the Vietnam war and sent, mostly, conscripted soldiers to fight (and die ) was because the powerful lobby group called the Catholic Church lobbied the Australian government of the day, at the request of the South Vietamese president (a Catholic himself) to send troops to help preserve the Catholic religion which was in danger of being taken over by non-catholic North Vietnamese.
Michael Dillon, Perth Western Australia.
Fact check, only 25% were conscripts yet they represented approximately 40% of deaths. In the case of Long Tan 11 of the 18 killed were conscripts.
Lest we Forget.
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Australia's Vietnam forces were often conscripts. Conscription was introduced to enlarge the availability of troops to send to what was essentially America's war in SEA. Their birthdates were drawn from a barrel - just random, and so awful. I and lots of Aussies did not and do not support Australia's knee jerk responses to being invited / expected to join in America's wars. No alliance is worth it.
Please watch Eric Bogle's The band played waltzing Matilda a song about the ANZACs in the 1st world war.
Lest we forget
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This is not the original fillm clip the original was more confronting
Thank Harold Wilson kept the UK out of this war if the Tories had been in there would have been another generation of young Brits lost
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As a Brit, I just think Aussies role in the world is to be in the frontline. We don't take Aussies all that seriously over here in the UK. It's almost laughable to even give a shit about this song.
Wtf
@@LizB-wx3en Is that a problem?
as a brit myself i couldn't agree more.. aussies were best to serve in the frontline..
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These young men were conscripted to go to war, no choice, war or gaol, hence the change to the voting age here, if you want to take the 18 year olds, they should be able to vote on the government who want to send them off
Australian conscripts did not have to go Vietnam. They were given a choice. Most went because of the pressure applied by the Army and their fellow soldiers.
At least, that is what I understood when my name went into the ballot, fortunately my birth date was not selected.
@@blueycarlton From a summary of the National Service Act as prepared by the AWM.
All national servicemen were liable for military service in Australia and overseas, or 'special overseas service', while with the Army full-time. Officially, national servicemen could not be posted according to their wishes and therefore could not choose whether or not they served in Vietnam, although a national serviceman could apply to his commanding officer to remain in Australia on compassionate grounds.
Been there, done that. Ex Viet Vet and NS.
Conscription was for the age of 20, 18 tear olds volunteered for the regular army.
@daviddou1408 check your facts . Why do you think you are of age at 18 and not 21, because of conscription. Mainly mothers, if they are enough to go to war they are old enough to vote
@@andrewbellamy575 I did check my facts, back in 1967 when I was conscripted, at the age of 20.
One source the NAA
"The conscription ‘lottery’
In November 1964, the Australian Government led by Prime Minister Robert Menzies introduced a scheme of selective conscription known as national service. The scheme was introduced under the National Service Act 1964 and was designed to create an army of 40,000 full-time soldiers.
Selective conscription meant that a certain number of 20-year-old Australian men would be chosen to serve in the Australian army."
Time for you to get off it and do some factual research yourself instead of listening to fairy tales.
Another the AWM
"The National Service scheme was introduced by the Menzies Government in November 1964 and operated until December 1972, when the newly elected Whitlam Labor Government suspended it. The scheme was based on a birthday ballot of twenty-year-old men who had registered their names with the Department of Labour and National Service (DLNS)."
National Service 1967/1969, RAA, Vietnam 1968/1969.