I cannot stress enough how bleak our future will be if the saints draft a QB in the first round. Draft some Elite defensive talent and competent defensive coaching and we are back to being a watchable team within a season. If we draft a bad QB we will be revisiting this EXACT conversation again in 3 years
i do not care how bad or good people think he is. I want spence out there at qb next season so we can load this team with talent this year. we are not in a position to take a risk at these qbs. especially since none of them are amazing prospects. I agree with what u said, no need to get an other qb
@LFC123-l3x So far, Spencer Rattler has shown flashes, but he turns the ball over too much. He panics way more than I thought he would given his time behind a bad line in South Carolina. We need to focus on the offensive line and play Carr next season while we let Rattler develop. He was thrown in too soon by coaches in "win now" mode, and he certainly wasn't ready. Carr has already shown he can get wins behind a bad offensive line, and he's been an MVP candidate behind a really good offensive line.
The age of the team has caught up to the organization. Demario, Cam, and Tyran have all gotten slow and are well past their prime. We have very little upside anywhere else on the roster.
Carr is not a liability to this team. Would’ve been interesting to see how the season would’ve turned out had he stayed healthy and had competent weapons. Just for fun, I feel like we would be 10-7, in the Playoffs, and Carr would’ve gone 4,500 yards, 36 TDs, 12 INTs, at 71% completion. It was a miserable season full of injuries that derailed the team.
@pharaoh390 delusional? How? Drew Brees is a much better quarterback, hands down. Now, look at who he had to work with those first 2 seasons with the team. He had Marques Colston, Joe Horn, Duece McAllister, Devery Henderson, Reggie Bush, David Patten, and Pierre Thomas. He also had a future Hall of Fame coach who designed an entire offensive system around Brees. In those first 2 years, he went 17-15. Carr has gone 14-13 in 2 years with FAR less, and people are calling for him to be gone. Having been a Saints fan for over 40 years, I have a little perspective.🤷🏿♂️
@@dl9232 lol do you actually watch the games? Drew Brees is better and was younger when he was with us. He was 27 when he came to New Orleans Derek Carr is now 33 and still hasn’t done anything in the nfl. Is the goal not to win? Derek Carr has never been able to do that why do you keep trying to defend him knowing we will never compete with him at QB
@pharaoh390 When he joined the Saints (after 58 games), Brees had just 1 pro bowl, and that was it. That was on the Chargers with LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Tim Dwight, David Boston, Curtis Conway, and Keenan McCardell. In the same span of games, Carr had 3 pro bowls and placed 3rd in MVP voting his 3rd year on a team with far fewer weapons. Basically, Cooper and Crabtree. Again, I already said Brees was better. Yet, if you're results-driven, then you have to look at context as well. The age only matters if Carr's arm is shot or if he's taking a lot of sacks because he can't navigate the pocket or get rid of the ball quick enough. With a bottom 5 offensive line, I'd say he's done quite well. As far as "do I actually watch the games," well, I watch an inordinate amount of games and have for decades as a former player and coach. I also use the all-22 film to break down games. I watch the games without bias because at the end of the day, I don't care who our quarterback is. As long as they put us in the best position to win. 👍🏿⚜️💯
How refreshing! All FACTS, no "Fan Boy" blaming everyone else for the loss. I thought your use of the Eagles in the same injury boat as the Saints was spot on! You have me as a subscriber! I am looking forward to your next breakdown.
The State of Louisiana needs to start a #demoteMickeyLoomis protest or something. Loomis is the real disease to this franchise’s future. He’s about to hire Arron Glen lol
@@brantfekete7812 Or a promotion. Either works. As long as he has nothing to do w scouting drafting trading or coach picking. He could totally reorganise all the file cabinets, or reassign all the parking spaces?
James, my brother in Christ. This team was on a 3 game losing streak when everybody was healthy but McCoy. You can’t kept using this injury excuse. It’s the same excuse for past 3 seasons.
This never happened. I do not know what time frame you have in mind, but we were never on a 3 game losing streak with everyone healthy but McCoy this season. The only 3 game losing streak we had with Carr starting (just one position, QB) was Eagles, Falcons, Chiefs but there was a litany of injuries in there.
@@KermitTFYT I think the injuries might’ve played a role in that my guy. Clyde Edwards Helaire and MVS are our starting RB and starting WR. They weren’t even on the team when people were saying we’d be 5-12 and 6-11
Raider /Carr fan but sweet revenge. We absolutely destroyed the saints. They need to release Carr and give the dude a chance with talent. Saints 3 yrs away
Having Carr in this game wouldn't have mattered. Our star players on offense was Juwan Johnson and Moreu. MVS was nonexistent, other than that Austin had one big catch and couldn't run the ball. Everything around Carr would just make him obsolete.
We need offensive line help. It doesn't matter who's playing QB behind a piss poor line. Even when our starting line is on the field, we're playing 3 backups. Ruiz, Penning and Patrick can't start anywhere else in the league.
If the Saints keep Carr, he should be the starting QB because he will give the Saints the best chance to win. The Saints needs to draft talented offensive linemen and not just oversized and overweight tackles and guards. If they do this, the Saints will make the playoffs next year.
Fire Loomis, he's responsible for why the Saints are in the deepest, darkest and worst hell in football. He promoted Dennis Allen to HC which he tried to convince everyone that DA was a good HC which we all knew he was the complete opposite. Loomis has muffed drafts with awful draft evaluations which have messed up the future of the team, his compulsive and constant kicking the can and terrible FA signings are why we might not have a future. As long as Loomis is our GM and Gayle Benson enables him and tries to give him a another chance that he doesn't deserve and plus if she does not do her job and make the decision to fire him, the Saints will eventually become one of the worst teams in football, and we will be stuck in the deepest, darkest, and worst hell that we are in.
Don't be sad for the Superdome James. It has the Sugar Bowl and Super Bowl coming up. If you stand far away from the TV, mess with the lighting and close one eye, there's a chance you could see the gold helmets and mistake the Irish for a quality Saints team battling a Georgia team dressed in red and black.
Wait a minute brother we are working with injuries on every Important position on offense I would like to say everytime DC has been injured so has the whole team
The Saints are like Disney World. Do you want to do something that you never have achieved, just play the New Orleans Saints and they'll make your dreams come true. CONGRATULATIONS! You're playing the New Orleans Saints, make a wish!
You heard it here first, Shadeur is going to be another franchise crushing bust. Really hoping we don't take a QB in this next draft. We're not doing much better than Rattler with the prospects coming out of this draft so for the love of god pick some skill players and we'll deal with QB for '26
No one, move down. Need bodies to begin this rebuilding process. See if they can do better than they have done in regards to the draft lately, not all but some, Lack of effort on some was apparent on tv.
1 Draft the best available RT with their first pick 2 Draft the best avaliable C with their 2nd pick 3 Draft the best available G with their 3rd pick 4 Trade A K and Cam Jordan for Micah Parsons 5 Bench whoever thinks Derek Carr isn't the leader on offense.
@@dalord63 Hire a Brad Holmes (Lions) type GM. Smart, patient. HC can be one of the hot OCs in the league (new, not a retread) or steal a great college coach 1st rd- If Sanders and Ward are gone (they will be), take Jeanty, or trade down 8-10 spots take Tyler Warren or Jaden Milroe. Impact players basically. Get Edge, T, CB, WR with the next 4 picks. RB is super deep this year, WR is shallow. We need DT, G, so many things, but we gotta get the guys who take a year or two to get up to speed this draft ie- TE, Linemen, QB. We will still suck next year while they're learning but we can take the div the year after.
I didn't know which one to start my rant... You post so many times. Rattler is two sweaty checks on a humid night. Soon as he had to prove it with his arm.. No more gadget plays, he stunk it up....
@@BryanRevis-x8t I want a qb in the draft. Carr is a below average qb. This is why we needed to see rattler. I don’t think you people understand how bad the contract is with Carr and the rest of the vets. It’s not about who’s the better qb. It’s about how we obtain a qb that can compete with the best. Derek Carr is not an elite qb. He cannot compete with Mahomes (check the Vegas record vs Mahomes) he cannot compete with Allen Jackson burrow hurts Herbert etc. face reality.
We really crying about 1 IT because it tipped out the cedric hands! and the 2nd one he’s just trynna make a play we were behind. Rattler can’t win for shit with the haters lol
What you aren’t understanding James is the starting defense is on the field and they can’t play. Now with the offensive players we have playing right now wasn’t that bad. The defense is just too old or too young. Saints have nobody in between. This team 100% healthy is still average to below average. Saints are starting what most teams would consider backups or practice squad players. Not everyone but a majority of them. Saints only have a handful of actual starting players on both sides.
Yall really expected the Saints to win without their starting QB, 2 WRS, C, RB and TE? Starting a rookie QB with practice squad skill players and undrafted free agents? Yall goofy frfr
James, we are not saying fire Loomis because of the injuries and the current roster you are saying fire mickey Loomis because of the fact we never get anyone in free agency because of the way he handles cap and always trying to stay with the same old core
Even though he was the leading receiver for us today I can only hope the Juwan Johnson experiment is over, he's a "receiving" tight end who routinely drops balls especially when he's hit. He is too soft and too inconsistent to play Tight End in the NFL.
@@geoffhoutman1557 I would say Warren is just as good as Bowers in my opinion plus he is versatile as well, a bit like Taysom. Also, I do miss Shockey, he was good but I miss Jimmy Graham more, he was the best TE for us and maybe the best offensive weapon for Brees.
It doesn’t suck that Carr didn’t play. No one wants him on the field. Lmao gotta be kiddin, you guys are so in love with his personality when he is trash do y’all wanna win or what cause no way we are still wanting Carr back.
They make a million excuses of why he hasn’t achieved anything of significance in 11 years. Then they compare him to a first year 5th round pick. It’s ridiculous. They’re all short a few brain cells imo
If I’m the GM I would be honest with the fan base it’s going to take the Saints 3 good solid drafts to turn this team around because it’s no money until 2026 hire good coaches and tell the fans that 2027 the Saints will be competitive again This will be my 2025 draft picks (1)RG (2)DT (3)LG (3)S (4)LB (6)DE (7)C
@ 6:15 We don’t say fire Mickey because we have injured players and we’re losing. It’s fire loomis for bad roster management. Ceedy deuce and. Trey Hendrickson should’ve been here longer. Why are we paying guys like Granderson who hasn’t had a 12+ sack season, and Ruiz and who is an average OL. Look at at the cap penalty for guys like cam Jordan and Demario Davis. Like just look at all of that. That’s four players on paper who could honestly be 6-8 quality players team wise. That’s why we say fire loomis. Much respect to cam and Demario but they should’ve been gone two seasons ago. We paying taysom hill (gadget guy) like a qb1 and he don’t even get 9 touches a game. That’s why we say fire loomis. That’s very bad roster management.every time we resign a player it be for a crazy check and the whole fan base is scratching our heads trying to figure out why are these certain players getting these crazy contracts that other teams wouldn’t even pay. But the guys we Need to pay (Trey Hendrickson, Chauncey Gardner Johnson etc) we let them walk away as if they weren’t impact players. That’s why we say fire loomis
I'm so ready for the off season and contract cuts plus the draft. This team is legit bad. Fast forward button on repeat. I don't care who wins the SB either. 🤷🏽♂️
@matthenagan8189 I'm not slow to the game. I know they will suck yet again but we have to start somewhere and it begins with finding better players. What we have is not it.
You are right about that. I would keep Kamara and Hill, hopefully Hill will be fully recovered for next season but we need more offensive weapons to put around those guys. Also need more wide receivers, like three more good to decent. Olave and Shaeheed are vulnerable players. We need a big physical wide out and tight end. I think we need more offensively than defensively. What about you?
@@matthenagan8189 I think both are important. But I agree mostly we need to over haul that offense because Hill shouldn't be our only go to when players aren't available. As far as the defense I think we need to face reality and pursue younger stronger and faster players. The veterans are old and tired.
"No team could survive losing a Ceasar Ruiz and a Lucas Patrick" they probably wouldn't survive it because they wouldn't be starting there in the 1st place. Saints are an Professional football organization where the first football decision maker with an ACTUAL FOOTBALL BACKGROUND is the HC. Quit trying to save these fools that's not doing their jobs, James.
Man, I don't know has a damn voodoo doll of the entire Saints team but they need to back off. Playing for the Saints this season is like signing up for the death penalty. If you are any member of the NO Saints based off of this season, you are at risk for some kind of injury or worse.
Don't nobody say one more word about DEREK CARR until you find better. AOC lost his start 3 times since he was signed. You heard the announcer say there's been a QB void since CARR left. Lol, lol, lol and 😂😂
@geoffhoutman1557 remember that guy who helped get the saints their best record in years? You probably think Winston (benched), Dalton (Walmart) did. But it was Derek.
as much as i would like for kubiak and rizzi to have a chance i dont think it will be them. i think this is it for these saint legends besides McCoy, AK41, and i think thats it ofc we keep the young players but other then that say good bye to everyone roster and coaching staff. see ya later idc i just want to be good again. rattler ain’t the future and it ain’t his fault but unless the next coach sees something he likes he ain’t keeping him around
Dude had no weapons, what did you expect? When he did do something positive, there would be a penalty then leading to a negative play. He needs to learn to put a little more touch on his passes and maybe run the ball a little bit more. That he can do.
raiders/carr fans are not Saints fans, remember that when yall engage with these dodo’s. They have endless excuses for 11 years of mediocre to below average and try to compare that to a first year 5th round pick. He’ll be gone sooner or later and his dingleberries will go with him. No worries
Our CFL Saints team can’t catch, pass block, stop the run, stop the pass, run block, literally doing anything. Bad coaching to boot. Not saying Rattler was great, but Tom Brady ain’t winning with this team!
@DoubleKAllday ain't no damn carr fan boy, just calling it how I see it. Isn't rattler 0-5 while carr has been 14-10, carr has been playing with that same team. And was doing a whole Hella a lot better then any other QB there, that isn't a opinion that's a fact.
I predicted 7-10 with Dennis Allen being fired and most fans just sneered. "Playoffs" they all wrote! How in the hell do you let a 3 win team come into your crib and beat us by 15? I for one as much as I believe he is mediocre would rather see Carr next year if Rattler is the other option. Hill will retire, Jordan will probably retire, Davis has lost more than a step, Chase Young is useless....5-12 again next year.
I'd personally take a chance on Chase Young. He may not always get a sack, but he does move the pocket and with another legit pass rusher , maybe someone out of the draft, then it could open things up for a Chase Young or Carl Granderson a bit more.
We can't catch, can't run and can't defend either. I'd get rid of everyone bar AK, rattler, olave, kool aid (not even been good), shaheed, the tackles, McCoy, Foster (as a TE2) and Breese it really is that bad
If we are hiring a Defensive head coach (not my choice we need offensive) im on the Brian Flores train. He is proven. ITS MY OPINION DONT COME OVER HERE WITH THE HATE🛑🛑🛑🛑
I put this into perspective for my lady about Mickey He’s been with us since 00 he became the gm in 02 that was some of the worst football from the saints they had a couple years of being bad until they got the peices they went on a 6/7 year run from 06 to 13 an then had another 3/4 in a half years untill we was good again an guess what guess what guys they had a 6/7 year DOMINANT run way more dominant than the 06-13 so we are on the shit end of the spectrum again it’s not all bad here guys that’s a long time to be a gm for one team we have one of the most stable teams in the league if the fans ran this team this team would never be shit so people need to shut up man up an get through this drought mind you this will be a rare sight for Mickey to loose more then 10 games an not win over 5 games so yes they make weird decisions but I’d stay right here over go to any other team the stability is here so man up
Fire the strength and conditioning staff. It's their fault. Too many injuries to too many people. Maybe if they were in better shape they wouldn't get hurt as much.
No James I normally agree with you but on this one you’re wrong, Sean Payton ran this team you can’t put this on injured players this team is old and have no depth Mickey Loomis had Sean Payton and Drew Brees all the bad contracts and no young talent it’s time for a new GM & Coach
Man how you come to the conclusion Loomis is not apart of the problem is diabolical. Failed drafts, look at the players we’ve let leave the building that are All-pro talent. Horrible cap management. Loomis is a huge part of the problem my guy. Sorry
Tebuild from the front office on down. Saints won't be anything for at least 5 years or better thanks to the incompetent office. I'm even for selling the team at this point.
No. We will not win next week though. Loomis deserves full credit for building this team. Let’s give him a round of applause as he retires. (Gayle follows James so she will read this)
Tanking is a crock of shit. It's not the same as rebuilding. What we need is a new GM, new HC who is impactful, quality and builds/brings a winning culture, finding ways to get through cap, and nailing the draft by picking only impact players.
@@elijah5765 I hear the top 2 qbs draft stock is falling. All the teams in the top 5 don’t need qbs other than giants but they just gifted the pats the 1 pick.
And I DO NOT want to see Alontae ever talk about playing outside again
Same lolllll he good in the slot
I double down on that..
They turned an outside corner into a slot corner, now he can’t perform on the outside because he spent 2 years learning slot. Typical Saints…
@theohsowavydarkskin1193 no he's not. Dude is BBQ chicken lol
@@chrismcqueen5134 I thought I was the only one. I think he just gave up on the team tbh. I’d play like 💩 too.
James you need to react to Foster moreau’s post game interview. It is the most beautiful and most authentic interview I’ve seen this entire season
I cannot stress enough how bleak our future will be if the saints draft a QB in the first round. Draft some Elite defensive talent and competent defensive coaching and we are back to being a watchable team within a season. If we draft a bad QB we will be revisiting this EXACT conversation again in 3 years
They need to pay you just for being reasonable. There is so much work to be done. A rookie QB can not fix it.
i do not care how bad or good people think he is. I want spence out there at qb next season so we can load this team with talent this year. we are not in a position to take a risk at these qbs. especially since none of them are amazing prospects. I agree with what u said, no need to get an other qb
@LFC123-l3x So far, Spencer Rattler has shown flashes, but he turns the ball over too much. He panics way more than I thought he would given his time behind a bad line in South Carolina. We need to focus on the offensive line and play Carr next season while we let Rattler develop. He was thrown in too soon by coaches in "win now" mode, and he certainly wasn't ready. Carr has already shown he can get wins behind a bad offensive line, and he's been an MVP candidate behind a really good offensive line.
About 12 drops td
Brock Bowers best TE in football period
@@BryanRevis-x8t He’s a stud
@@JamesSkrmettahe was drafted just one pick before us I believe but we needed an o lineman so bad anyway we would not have taken him!
The age of the team has caught up to the organization. Demario, Cam, and Tyran have all gotten slow and are well past their prime. We have very little upside anywhere else on the roster.
@@brendonbanks5 True
@@JamesSkrmetta James in the offseason you was saying . The age doesn’t matter lol
@ Age doesn’t matter. Performance does.
@@JamesSkrmettaIt's hard to perform when you can't keep up. It's like watching 70 year old men run behind two year olds.
We need a young roster overall
Carr is not a liability to this team. Would’ve been interesting to see how the season would’ve turned out had he stayed healthy and had competent weapons. Just for fun, I feel like we would be 10-7, in the Playoffs, and Carr would’ve gone 4,500 yards, 36 TDs, 12 INTs, at 71% completion. It was a miserable season full of injuries that derailed the team.
We don’t draft depth peices well in this case and if we do we always get players that are injury prone
@@BillyRayValentineFCOJlol yall are delusional. He’s gone ASAP
@pharaoh390 delusional? How? Drew Brees is a much better quarterback, hands down. Now, look at who he had to work with those first 2 seasons with the team. He had Marques Colston, Joe Horn, Duece McAllister, Devery Henderson, Reggie Bush, David Patten, and Pierre Thomas. He also had a future Hall of Fame coach who designed an entire offensive system around Brees. In those first 2 years, he went 17-15. Carr has gone 14-13 in 2 years with FAR less, and people are calling for him to be gone. Having been a Saints fan for over 40 years, I have a little perspective.🤷🏿♂️
@@dl9232 lol do you actually watch the games? Drew Brees is better and was younger when he was with us. He was 27 when he came to New Orleans Derek Carr is now 33 and still hasn’t done anything in the nfl. Is the goal not to win? Derek Carr has never been able to do that why do you keep trying to defend him knowing we will never compete with him at QB
@pharaoh390 When he joined the Saints (after 58 games), Brees had just 1 pro bowl, and that was it. That was on the Chargers with LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Tim Dwight, David Boston, Curtis Conway, and Keenan McCardell. In the same span of games, Carr had 3 pro bowls and placed 3rd in MVP voting his 3rd year on a team with far fewer weapons. Basically, Cooper and Crabtree.
Again, I already said Brees was better. Yet, if you're results-driven, then you have to look at context as well. The age only matters if Carr's arm is shot or if he's taking a lot of sacks because he can't navigate the pocket or get rid of the ball quick enough. With a bottom 5 offensive line, I'd say he's done quite well. As far as "do I actually watch the games," well, I watch an inordinate amount of games and have for decades as a former player and coach. I also use the all-22 film to break down games. I watch the games without bias because at the end of the day, I don't care who our quarterback is. As long as they put us in the best position to win. 👍🏿⚜️💯
How refreshing! All FACTS, no "Fan Boy" blaming everyone else for the loss. I thought your use of the Eagles in the same injury boat as the Saints was spot on! You have me as a subscriber! I am looking forward to your next breakdown.
@@vernonheughan7526 Comment of the day!
The top Saints excuse channel.
The State of Louisiana needs to start a #demoteMickeyLoomis protest or something. Loomis is the real disease to this franchise’s future. He’s about to hire Arron Glen lol
He’s the constant in this failure, got no Brees or Payton to cover his az
I agree 100% on this right here!
Yes since he can’t be fired a demotion is the best case scenario for us
@@brantfekete7812 Or a promotion. Either works. As long as he has nothing to do w scouting drafting trading or coach picking.
He could totally reorganise all the file cabinets, or reassign all the parking spaces?
@@geoffhoutman1557 yeah that would work as long as he is not making the decisions!
Thanks James
Can't wait for this season to be over. We're almost there, thank you God
James, my brother in Christ. This team was on a 3 game losing streak when everybody was healthy but McCoy. You can’t kept using this injury excuse. It’s the same excuse for past 3 seasons.
This never happened. I do not know what time frame you have in mind, but we were never on a 3 game losing streak with everyone healthy but McCoy this season. The only 3 game losing streak we had with Carr starting (just one position, QB) was Eagles, Falcons, Chiefs but there was a litany of injuries in there.
@@saadiq311 Yeahhhhhhh this didn’t happen my dude
do you realize taysom got hurt in the game vs the eagles? he tried to play vs atlanta and had to come out at around halftime
Preach!
Ps Loomis gotta geaux
Defense been 90% most of the year and still been getting spanked
They were right about us being 5-12 6-11 this year. Sad but true.
@@KermitTFYT I think the injuries might’ve played a role in that my guy. Clyde Edwards Helaire and MVS are our starting RB and starting WR. They weren’t even on the team when people were saying we’d be 5-12 and 6-11
@ true true.
Rattler did just fine + he held his own. Stop the nonsense, rookie ballin
Let’s not mention Kendre Miller’s name on this channel ever again.
It’s the saints players vs opponent, Mickey Loomis, coaching staff, medical staff, cap situation lol
We need a overhaul on the defense we need to go get a d tackle who can stop the run
@@Shehshshshsh20 Yeah the run defense is horrific
@@JamesSkrmetta absolutely abysmal
Jack Sawyer is a run killer (but from the edge)
@@JamesSkrmetta you don’t know how good you have it till you don’t have it anymore that run defense from 2017-2020 was so good 😭😭
And linebackers who can make a tackle
Raider /Carr fan but sweet revenge. We absolutely destroyed the saints. They need to release Carr and give the dude a chance with talent. Saints 3 yrs away
He ain’t winning anything anywhere else. Mediocre QB at best and one of the most inconsistent QB the last 10 years
Wanted him to start today to increase his record from 31 to 32
Game wasn’t on up here in Shreveport, cowboys took over the noon hour. From
The looks I was saved from misery
@@jasonwynn318 That’s wild they didn’t even have coverage
Last two years: Carr 14-10, Rattler 0-5, Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1. Numbers don’t lie, Saints cannot win without Carr.
Having Carr in this game wouldn't have mattered. Our star players on offense was Juwan Johnson and Moreu. MVS was nonexistent, other than that Austin had one big catch and couldn't run the ball. Everything around Carr would just make him obsolete.
Taysom Hill since Brees retired 7 and 2
We gotta let this team build as a fan base it’s our job to sit back and support let’s hope they can use that support and get better next year
It’s hard for a rookie qb to excel with a bad OL and no weapons!
Trudat. Rattly deserves another year, the QB we draft can sit behind him for a year
@@geoffhoutman1557Owen Rattler will take the Saints Owen 17😂😂😂
@@alu.304 You make no sense. Is there a "block user" button or something?
@@geoffhoutman1557 simple math. You should try it👍🤣
Tough stuff. Not even going to complain. Looking forward to find out who the new head coach is.
Honestly can’t wait to see the inevitable change finally
@James What was the TOP?
Klint Karmichael cannot run a drive to save himself. I swear one of our 3 and out took 40 sec off the clock
Raiders and saints fan, would have loved dc playing this. Rattler not great stats but again shows real promise, and i am loving brock bowers
We need offensive line help. It doesn't matter who's playing QB behind a piss poor line. Even when our starting line is on the field, we're playing 3 backups. Ruiz, Penning and Patrick can't start anywhere else in the league.
Gotta draft T and G for sure
Along w a lot of other pieces
Drop passes kills a young qb confidence
And positive plays with penalties that lead to negative plays and mistakes. Can't have the good without the bad. Story of the season.
Man if we stayed healthy and didn’t lose every single cornerstone, this would all be different
Since week 3 these games have been a chore to watch
PFN mock draft sim is more entertaining
If you take those 2 wins away at the beginning of the season, we are a three win team right now. Looks and feels like it anyway.
If the Saints keep Carr, he should be the starting QB because he will give the Saints the best chance to win. The Saints needs to draft talented offensive linemen and not just oversized and overweight tackles and guards. If they do this, the Saints will make the playoffs next year.
Fire Loomis, he's responsible for why the Saints are in the deepest, darkest and worst hell in football. He promoted Dennis Allen to HC which he tried to convince everyone that DA was a good HC which we all knew he was the complete opposite. Loomis has muffed drafts with awful draft evaluations which have messed up the future of the team, his compulsive and constant kicking the can and terrible FA signings are why we might not have a future. As long as Loomis is our GM and Gayle Benson enables him and tries to give him a another chance that he doesn't deserve and plus if she does not do her job and make the decision to fire him, the Saints will eventually become one of the worst teams in football, and we will be stuck in the deepest, darkest, and worst hell that we are in.
Rattler out there throwing hospital balls gowd damn
Clyde just showed how bad the running back room is, he not even a top rb himself. Holy
Don't be sad for the Superdome James. It has the Sugar Bowl and Super Bowl coming up. If you stand far away from the TV, mess with the lighting and close one eye, there's a chance you could see the gold helmets and mistake the Irish for a quality Saints team battling a Georgia team dressed in red and black.
James you are my guy but cannot keep defending Loomis hiring a poor HC and not drafting well that’s him my guy
James i think your legit and appreciate your content... I hope you see how Carr makes your team 10 times better
THANK YOU..... I'm tired of saying it. 😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao😂😂😂
Wait a minute brother we are working with injuries on every Important position on offense I would like to say everytime DC has been injured so has the whole team
5-5 is ten times better than what?
Carr makes a team mid. We were mid with Jameis and Dalton...
@@geoffhoutman1557 No, DENNIS ALLEN made y'all mid. Better than now.
I feel like they shouldn’t blow it up. Depends on who the new head coach is. I’d give gruden a look for sure if they keep Carr
Not blow it up? How many years of no playoffs do you want 5? 6? 7?
The Saints are like Disney World. Do you want to do something that you never have achieved, just play the New Orleans Saints and they'll make your dreams come true. CONGRATULATIONS! You're playing the New Orleans Saints, make a wish!
Rattler had nothing
Carr is infinitely better
@@shawnmallon2833 Carr is a bum enough said
@ low IQ
Last 2 years Carr 14-10, Rattler 0-5, Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1. Numbers don’t lie. Saints cannot win without Carr.
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ But yet you Carr groupies compare a rookie to a 11 year who haven't won nothing since he have been in the league, smh sad.
You heard it here first, Shadeur is going to be another franchise crushing bust. Really hoping we don't take a QB in this next draft. We're not doing much better than Rattler with the prospects coming out of this draft so for the love of god pick some skill players and we'll deal with QB for '26
Rattler made some good throws
Serious question. Name five specific things that have to happen in the off-season for the Saints to be considerably better next year.
New GM
New HC and staff
Draft uninjured non prospects
Trade down for once
Bench Carr til he demands a trade
@@geoffhoutman1557 Most of that is non-specific. Who do you hire at GM? Who do you hire at HC. Who do you draft first round?
No one, move down. Need bodies to begin this rebuilding process.
See if they can do better than they have done in regards to the draft lately, not all but some,
Lack of effort on some was apparent on tv.
1 Draft the best available RT with their first pick
2 Draft the best avaliable C with their 2nd pick
3 Draft the best available G with their 3rd pick
4 Trade A K and Cam Jordan for Micah Parsons
5 Bench whoever thinks Derek Carr isn't the leader on offense.
@@dalord63 Hire a Brad Holmes (Lions) type GM. Smart, patient.
HC can be one of the hot OCs in the league (new, not a retread) or steal a great college coach
1st rd- If Sanders and Ward are gone (they will be), take Jeanty, or trade down 8-10 spots take Tyler Warren or Jaden Milroe.
Impact players basically.
Get Edge, T, CB, WR with the next 4 picks. RB is super deep this year, WR is shallow. We need DT, G, so many things, but we gotta get the guys who take a year or two to get up to speed this draft ie- TE, Linemen, QB.
We will still suck next year while they're learning but we can take the div the year after.
0:25 we look beyond the results.
I didn't know which one to start my rant... You post so many times.
Rattler is two sweaty checks on a humid night. Soon as he had to prove it with his arm.. No more gadget plays, he stunk it up....
Only td a trick play LMAO 😂. He's better than Carr though right? I'm rolling right now lol
@@BryanRevis-x8t I want a qb in the draft. Carr is a below average qb. This is why we needed to see rattler. I don’t think you people understand how bad the contract is with Carr and the rest of the vets. It’s not about who’s the better qb. It’s about how we obtain a qb that can compete with the best. Derek Carr is not an elite qb. He cannot compete with Mahomes (check the Vegas record vs Mahomes) he cannot compete with Allen Jackson burrow hurts Herbert etc. face reality.
@@BryanRevis-x8t The best part is. I WON. Carr didn't play, Raiders did their thing. Sunday fun-day..
@@1B2B-ReyA raiders fans are not saints fans. Carr has played like trash his entire time as a saint. Bro finally admitted it lol.
We really crying about 1 IT because it tipped out the cedric hands! and the 2nd one he’s just trynna make a play we were behind. Rattler can’t win for shit with the haters lol
James ppl are saying fire Loomis not just because of this year c'mon bro it obvious this team has not improved from previous years
@@junebug2552 They did improve last year from the previous year though
7:05 hurt or quit on team
What you aren’t understanding James is the starting defense is on the field and they can’t play. Now with the offensive players we have playing right now wasn’t that bad. The defense is just too old or too young. Saints have nobody in between. This team 100% healthy is still average to below average. Saints are starting what most teams would consider backups or practice squad players. Not everyone but a majority of them. Saints only have a handful of actual starting players on both sides.
Gayle needs to clean house no one should be safe! Absolutely a dumpster fire in NO!!!
The amount of drops these guys had is ridiculous. Get Juwan off the team also.
Mickey has missed the playoffs the last 4-5 years…. I’m tired of the excuses 🤦🏾♂️ he needs to go
can we get a reaction to rattler and demario interviews
Yall really expected the Saints to win without their starting QB, 2 WRS, C, RB and TE? Starting a rookie QB with practice squad skill players and undrafted free agents? Yall goofy frfr
Should have a top 3 pick
James, we are not saying fire Loomis because of the injuries and the current roster you are saying fire mickey Loomis because of the fact we never get anyone in free agency because of the way he handles cap and always trying to stay with the same old core
Not this year but things do and will change.
This team needs to do everything it can to convince Justin Fields to come start at QB for us next year despite our poor o line 😂
QB?! Are you kidding?.....If this team doesn't draft OL & DL Loomis needs to hit the road
Even though he was the leading receiver for us today I can only hope the Juwan Johnson experiment is over, he's a "receiving" tight end who routinely drops balls especially when he's hit.
He is too soft and too inconsistent to play Tight End in the NFL.
Tyler Williams would help.
How good is Bowers? Man....
@@geoffhoutman1557You mean Tyler Warren, TE of Penn St. Warren would be great for us. Bowers is one of if not the best TE this year.
Plus to add Bowers passed Mike Ditka for the most receiving yards of a rookie TE.
@@KryptoKai72 That's the fellah! If he's half as good as Bowers he will be twice as good as what we have now.
Man, I still miss Jeremy Shockey
@@geoffhoutman1557 I would say Warren is just as good as Bowers in my opinion plus he is versatile as well, a bit like Taysom. Also, I do miss Shockey, he was good but I miss Jimmy Graham more, he was the best TE for us and maybe the best offensive weapon for Brees.
It doesn’t suck that Carr didn’t play. No one wants him on the field. Lmao gotta be kiddin, you guys are so in love with his personality when he is trash do y’all wanna win or what cause no way we are still wanting Carr back.
They make a million excuses of why he hasn’t achieved anything of significance in 11 years. Then they compare him to a first year 5th round pick. It’s ridiculous. They’re all short a few brain cells imo
Whole house clean. Fire the Janitor also.
If I’m the GM I would be honest with the fan base it’s going to take the Saints 3 good solid drafts to turn this team around because it’s no money until 2026 hire good coaches and tell the fans that 2027 the Saints will be competitive again
This will be my 2025 draft picks
(1)RG
(2)DT
(3)LG
(3)S
(4)LB
(6)DE
(7)C
@ 6:15 We don’t say fire Mickey because we have injured players and we’re losing. It’s fire loomis for bad roster management. Ceedy deuce and. Trey Hendrickson should’ve been here longer. Why are we paying guys like Granderson who hasn’t had a 12+ sack season, and Ruiz and who is an average OL. Look at at the cap penalty for guys like cam Jordan and Demario Davis. Like just look at all of that. That’s four players on paper who could honestly be 6-8 quality players team wise. That’s why we say fire loomis. Much respect to cam and Demario but they should’ve been gone two seasons ago. We paying taysom hill (gadget guy) like a qb1 and he don’t even get 9 touches a game. That’s why we say fire loomis. That’s very bad roster management.every time we resign a player it be for a crazy check and the whole fan base is scratching our heads trying to figure out why are these certain players getting these crazy contracts that other teams wouldn’t even pay. But the guys we Need to pay (Trey Hendrickson, Chauncey Gardner Johnson etc) we let them walk away as if they weren’t impact players. That’s why we say fire loomis
Rattler 3td 4 picks 0-5. Conversation over about Carr. Sorry u haters feel that way. Live with it
Put me at WR or DB rn for the saints!
I'm so ready for the off season and contract cuts plus the draft. This team is legit bad. Fast forward button on repeat. I don't care who wins the SB either. 🤷🏽♂️
I feel you on that but at this point do you think next season can or will be any better my dude?
@matthenagan8189 I'm not slow to the game. I know they will suck yet again but we have to start somewhere and it begins with finding better players. What we have is not it.
You are right about that. I would keep Kamara and Hill, hopefully Hill will be fully recovered for next season but we need more offensive weapons to put around those guys. Also need more wide receivers, like three more good to decent. Olave and Shaeheed are vulnerable players. We need a big physical wide out and tight end. I think we need more offensively than defensively. What about you?
@@matthenagan8189 I think both are important. But I agree mostly we need to over haul that offense because Hill shouldn't be our only go to when players aren't available. As far as the defense I think we need to face reality and pursue younger stronger and faster players. The veterans are old and tired.
I like rattler even still
I feel bad for him, I figured if he was going to get his first win as an NFL QB, that it would be against the Raiders.
"No team could survive losing a Ceasar Ruiz and a Lucas Patrick" they probably wouldn't survive it because they wouldn't be starting there in the 1st place. Saints are an Professional football organization where the first football decision maker with an ACTUAL FOOTBALL BACKGROUND is the HC. Quit trying to save these fools that's not doing their jobs, James.
Man, I don't know has a damn voodoo doll of the entire Saints team but they need to back off. Playing for the Saints this season is like signing up for the death penalty. If you are any member of the NO Saints based off of this season, you are at risk for some kind of injury or worse.
Don't nobody say one more word about DEREK CARR until you find better. AOC lost his start 3 times since he was signed. You heard the announcer say there's been a QB void since CARR left. Lol, lol, lol and 😂😂
Derek who?
@geoffhoutman1557 remember that guy who helped get the saints their best record in years?
You probably think Winston (benched), Dalton (Walmart) did. But it was Derek.
Last 2 years: Carr 13-12, Rattler 0-5, Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1.
@@1B2B-ReyA Derek who? The one who gets injured just before a run of tough teams?
Most expensive backup QB in the league
@@ejford5083 True. Let's do playoff records now...
Why are there carr fans in the comment section?
They will go when he does
They act like this dude is some sort of savior, when we might have like 6 wins instead of 5 if Carr was starting 😂
@geoffhoutman1557 i hope so they are annoying
@@TyCharlot I'm saying
@@TyCharlot IF he was starting. Too unlucky and injury prone to be worth talking about really
I really feel rattler is an elite QB
@@Victor-cr5rr He’s gotta be good before he can be elite
@JamesSkrmetta lol I was being sarcastic, rattler is bad
I have to say the falcons are putting together a good team.
I could’ve started at wr or te today
as much as i would like for kubiak and rizzi to have a chance i dont think it will be them. i think this is it for these saint legends besides McCoy, AK41, and i think thats it ofc we keep the young players but other then that say good bye to everyone roster and coaching staff. see ya later idc i just want to be good again. rattler ain’t the future and it ain’t his fault but unless the next coach sees something he likes he ain’t keeping him around
Fire everyone
Draft a whole new entire team, keep Kamara and Hill though.
I didnt bother watching, first game i missed live in the last 2-3 years....
Rattler fans where u at? 0-5 3tds 4 pcks and lost to Raiders. Dont even open your mouth again. Save yourself the embassment.
*embarrassment
Meanwhile defense let Aidin O Connell have the ball 80% of the game 😂
Um. O couldn’t keep a drive going, that’s why they won the TOP by so much
@@geoffhoutman1557 O can’t get warmed up with the defense hogging up the whole game…
Dude had no weapons, what did you expect? When he did do something positive, there would be a penalty then leading to a negative play. He needs to learn to put a little more touch on his passes and maybe run the ball a little bit more. That he can do.
Carr is a real franchise qb lol look what the team is with and without him
Your serious, right?
He thinks 5-5 is awesome QB play!
@@geoffhoutman1557 when the team is 0-6 without him. Yes you bafoon
Let’s be real, Rattler can’t handle pressure/blitz just yet. It’s so obvious
Cam jordan left the dome just like 20 mins ago from me commenting this he's definitely done
It’s all about our poorly run front office - Mickey & Dennis!
You can not blame a pig for being a pig. It’s not about the players James.
raiders/carr fans are not Saints fans, remember that when yall engage with these dodo’s. They have endless excuses for 11 years of mediocre to below average and try to compare that to a first year 5th round pick. He’ll be gone sooner or later and his dingleberries will go with him. No worries
Joe Woods gotta go too. “Lazy Joe” I’m depressed.
Our CFL Saints team can’t catch, pass block, stop the run, stop the pass, run block, literally doing anything. Bad coaching to boot. Not saying Rattler was great, but Tom Brady ain’t winning with this team!
Can't even give Rattler a WIN
To b fair, he cant even help himself to win, cuz hes trash
Carr fanboy lmaoooooo
@DoubleKAllday ain't no damn carr fan boy, just calling it how I see it. Isn't rattler 0-5 while carr has been 14-10, carr has been playing with that same team. And was doing a whole Hella a lot better then any other QB there, that isn't a opinion that's a fact.
I predicted 7-10 with Dennis Allen being fired and most fans just sneered. "Playoffs" they all wrote! How in the hell do you let a 3 win team come into your crib and beat us by 15? I for one as much as I believe he is mediocre would rather see Carr next year if Rattler is the other option. Hill will retire, Jordan will probably retire, Davis has lost more than a step, Chase Young is useless....5-12 again next year.
Young had been among the top of the league in pressures I think
We gotta draft a QB
It’s getting embarrassing now
@@geoffhoutman1557 I thought Rattler was "the guy"?
I'd personally take a chance on Chase Young. He may not always get a sack, but he does move the pocket and with another legit pass rusher , maybe someone out of the draft, then it could open things up for a Chase Young or Carl Granderson a bit more.
@@captaindeluxe7328 Not enough evidence to tell yet. Haener and Carr haven't impressed much so far.
tbh I miss Teddy Bridgewater, he was good with us
We can't catch, can't run and can't defend either. I'd get rid of everyone bar AK, rattler, olave, kool aid (not even been good), shaheed, the tackles, McCoy, Foster (as a TE2) and Breese it really is that bad
kool aid is awful but he a rookie so
Keep Grupe.
Is our punter getting better too?
@@geoffhoutman1557 punter been good all season special teams is the only good thing on this team
@@BROWNBOY833 Trudat. Hope we can keep Drizzi as ST coach
If we are hiring a Defensive head coach (not my choice we need offensive) im on the Brian Flores train. He is proven. ITS MY OPINION DONT COME OVER HERE WITH THE HATE🛑🛑🛑🛑
I put this into perspective for my lady about Mickey
He’s been with us since 00 he became the gm in 02 that was some of the worst football from the saints they had a couple years of being bad until they got the peices they went on a 6/7 year run from 06 to 13 an then had another 3/4 in a half years untill we was good again an guess what guess what guys they had a 6/7 year DOMINANT run way more dominant than the 06-13 so we are on the shit end of the spectrum again it’s not all bad here guys that’s a long time to be a gm for one team we have one of the most stable teams in the league if the fans ran this team this team would never be shit so people need to shut up man up an get through this drought mind you this will be a rare sight for Mickey to loose more then 10 games an not win over 5 games so yes they make weird decisions but I’d stay right here over go to any other team the stability is here so man up
Fire the strength and conditioning staff. It's their fault. Too many injuries to too many people. Maybe if they were in better shape they wouldn't get hurt as much.
No James I normally agree with you but on this one you’re wrong, Sean Payton ran this team you can’t put this on injured players this team is old and have no depth Mickey Loomis had Sean Payton and Drew Brees all the bad contracts and no young talent it’s time for a new GM & Coach
I wanna apologize on behalf of the organization. They don’t have an Identity No staff No nothing. We will try not to put you to sleep again.
Man how you come to the conclusion Loomis is not apart of the problem is diabolical. Failed drafts, look at the players we’ve let leave the building that are All-pro talent. Horrible cap management. Loomis is a huge part of the problem my guy. Sorry
The team has no Culture no identity no NOTHING and still is undisciplined.
Tebuild from the front office on down. Saints won't be anything for at least 5 years or better thanks to the incompetent office. I'm even for selling the team at this point.
Don't lie bro, I won't, this sucks, I'm trippin.
Are we tanking?
No. We will not win next week though.
Loomis deserves full credit for building this team.
Let’s give him a round of applause as he retires.
(Gayle follows James so she will read this)
Don't think we're tanking. We're just a really bad team with no talent, and the little talent we do have are either too old and slow or injury prone.
Tanking is a crock of shit. It's not the same as rebuilding. What we need is a new GM, new HC who is impactful, quality and builds/brings a winning culture, finding ways to get through cap, and nailing the draft by picking only impact players.
@@RealistNato organically tanking
Nailed it
Ben Johnson rattler Ashton Jeanty ?
Carson beck isn’t the best option
I’d take Jeanty at 10. AK only here two more years and everyone else is... inconsistent?
@@elijah5765 he’s the best qb beside shadeur and ward. If there’s a way to get sanders i say you get him.
@@elijah5765 cam skattabo > jeanty
@@elijah5765 I hear the top 2 qbs draft stock is falling. All the teams in the top 5 don’t need qbs other than giants but they just gifted the pats the 1 pick.
Mickey loomis has to go if we want anything to change