Why are my Philodendron's leaves turning yellow!? | Silver Cloud + Mamei | Chatty Plant Troubleshoot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- G'day, guys! In today's episode I troubleshoot my dying Philodendron mamei and Philodendron 'Silver Cloud', both on a sphagnum moss pole. Something's been going wrong recently. Why are my Philodendron's leaves turning yellow?! They're crispy, brown, yellow, and falling off!
I suspect it's root rot... It could be from overwatering or underwatering the plant. Let's find out and see if we can save the plants before they're completely dead.
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We end up propagating the Philodendron mamei and Philodendron 'Silver Cloud' via water propagation and we also repot some of the plant bases left over after we chop & prop. Fingers crossed they all survive!
Ah I’ve fallen down the petevsplants hole. It’s nice to see his enthusiasm for plants and glad to know I’m not the only one struggling with plant addiction. Anyways, I think the mamei is a crawler, but I’ve forced my McDowell to grow vertical so I don’t think that’s the issue. But I do think it might stunt leaf growth. Anywho excited to see the progress on these props in various environments❤
Thanks for the kind words mate :D
I don’t think I’ve ever watched your videos & not laugh. You provide not only valuable plant information, but loads of comic relief. You have enough plants & gab for daily videos. When you have time, you should make a video every day for a week. Thanks for being so cheerful & funny!
Naw, thanks a lot Carol. Haha I did it in December :) 29 videos in a row.
Your thumbnail with so many funny faces made me feel so awkward? with your normal face🤣 Ive been watching your video since yesterday and i think they are so informative and fun. Thank you!🪴
Haha thanks, mate. Yeah, annoyingly it's what works best on TH-cam to get people to click on your thumbnails to watch the content. If you just have a standard normal face, people ignore it lol
Yes, I do enjoy your videos mostly because of who you are, which is the way you present this love of yours. You are a cool guy and a pleasant one. Thank you. You know we're going to learn something.
You're really kind, Oma! Thanks so much for the support!
Honestly love watching people experiment in various mediums. Hakunalaplanta is really good, and I learn a lot from his experiences
Yeah, I love Kevin :D He's great!
Definite yes for more diagnostic/problem solving videos! I don’t have the said plant but it was still interesting to see what was going on with it and how you dealt with it. Hope there is an update in few weeks time. It will be interesting to see how the propagations and the base are doing. Hope you have solved the problem and made happy, healthy plants!
Cheers, Gerda. The good thing (sort of) is that the same issue happens to most plants where the lower leaves yellow off, top ones shrink as they come out and get deformed, etc. and it's usually root rot associated I think. So hopefully you can apply these lessons to other indoor plants too.
@@petevsplants7516 couldn’t agree more!
I have a mamei, and mine is thriving. It does attract spider mites though. One observation is that mamei’s I believe are crawling philodendron so they don’t want to be crawling up a moss pole. I don’t know about the silver cloud but the mamei for sure is a crawler.
Mamei is a crawler, sodiroi is a climber ❤
oh my....you make me feel so normal!!! you actually have plants that dont look picture perfect Shit Time???? i love it
Hehe :D
That pointy bit sticking out beside the leaf is where my flower buds came from on my jungle boogie, not the same, but a phil.
Glad to find your channel, I’m a plant lover from Auckland and wonderful to find an Aussie plant lover on TH-cam. I’m binge watching since I’m on holiday.
Welcome, mate! And thanks for subbing :D
Oh Man! You finally realized. I was so relieved when you just pulled it all out. Look what you've missed thinking those little ones would recover in that condition.
Ok, it was fighting, cool but look at the overall condition of the whole plant. It still was as you said, sheet. So glad you just ripped it all out of the pot. Add some peroxide to that soil if you'll use it again.
Hehe yeah... that was definitely a learning lesson... I should've been paying more attention.
Yes to more videos like this one please it’s so helpful to know how others deal with the same issues with the same plants and in the same country Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
Yay! Thanks Kirsty. Lol I've definitely got more plants on the dying list that I'd be happy to show and troubleshoot with :D
Love these videos Pete, entertaining educational and so real. Gold. :)
Thanks as always mate :D appreciate the support!
I like the detail as you think aloud. Thanks.
Ive had similar issues with some of my plants leaving some of the old soil on and potting it in a chunky mix, then leaves start yellowing and curling like that. I used to be afraid of damaging the roots or shocking the plant by getting all the soil off, but on my most recent plant gets I just removed all the old soil right away and the are doing fine, so im going to do that from now on.
You treated that silver cloud like an ugly stepchild.
Every time you said "I'm really not fazed" (or somethin along those lines) I felt the plant wilt a little more🥀
Seriously, good job.
I enjoy learning from you.
Thanks for the info.
Lol brutal... I feel like I'd be an okay step-dad. Might not like the kid but would never cut them up haha lol thanks mate :D
@@petevsplants7516
Lmao... I get it.
We all do it👌🏽
I love these! Problem solving is kind of fun.
Hehe cheers, mate! Where you watching from?
You are such the mad scientist 😂; good video!
Haha, cheers, Kathryn!
I don't know why but when I saw the title and thumbnail I worriedly glanced at my Florida ghost for few seconds before my brain recognised what the plant was XD
lol :D
My silver cloud from bunnings has struggled heaps too. My mix was too dense. I ended up with a stump and I repotted it in a chunkier aroid mix and now it activated 3 growth points and I have a couple of leaves. When it gets bigger I'll let it crawl and see if it'll grow nicely. It's supposed to be a crawler rather than a climber. So maybe growing horizontally would help? Otherwise, bin this goes 😂
haha yeah, pretty much. I'll have to see how the propagations go. Every silver cloud I've seen so far has been on a pole hence assuming it was a climber... grrr
Not sure if anyone has answered. But from what I know and have seen, Mamei is a crawler while the Mamei Silver Cloud is a climber. That being said, my Silver Cloud is the slowest to "upsize". Have not had the time to focus on troubleshooting it. But! Not an urgent problem for now haha! All the best to yours!
Cheers, mate! Yeah, watching the video again and looking at how the mamei was growing, I think it was definitely trying to crawl.
@@petevsplants7516 Actually now that you mentioned it, I think yours is a Mamei. Silver Clouds have almost 50% silver on the leaves. While the Mamei has much lesser. And at 7:20 there is a shoot growing out of the sheath instead of directly a new leaf(not sure if its the same for the rest of your leaves). My Mamei Silver Cloud throws out a leaf directly from the sheath. Again, from my latest video, the first plant, is the Silver Cloud. Can check it out if you'd like.
These are just based on the shoots and also silver on the leaves ya. There's also a difference in the wavy things on the petioles which is hard to see on yours.
Now that you have many cuttings, might as well let one or two grow how it wants without poling to see what it really is.
This type of video is interesting, we can all learn how to save plants.
I received a few weeks ago a Half moon Monstera Albo and , because it was too cold, the stem and leaves melted. I could only save a tiny bit of the stem and 2 baby leaves. To my surprise the roots were good and no cold damage affected them.
She activated 2 growth points, not the highest one as i expected, but the lower ones. Luckily they seem to be situated at the border between green and white , so i hope they will be half moon too.
This is my first time propagating a half moon plant, so it will be interesting to see what happends . I am still sad that this happended but since i got my refund, i can take this as a learning experience 😅
Oh man, that sucks but glad it turned out worth it re: refund and learning experience. It's definitely good to have gown through this stuff for your own experience.
A big thumb up just after seeing the first 30 seconds of the video 🤣🤣
Haha cheers, Yunting!
weird seeing these plants on a pole when both of them are crawlers. maybe they're just tired of climbing up. lol
Lol google said they could both climb... I feel betrayed!
The Philodendron Burl Marx have those wonky growth points It is just the way they grow. Suzettes Garden has several Mamei vidoes where she revived the Mamei I sent to her that I was having trouble with. She ended up chopping tte plant and propped it in Spag. Later setting the spag root ball on top of a pot of soil so the roots eventually grew down into the pot. Months later all the chopped props are doing really well.
Ah very cool! I'll have to check it out. Thanks mate :D
They are crawling plants BUT, you can train them to climb with no issues. So it's definitely not that.
Mine is doing the same thing, was beautiful and green/silver but now the leaves are yellowing so I'm going to dig her up and see if there's something going on with the roots.
If I can't see anything then I too might end up chopping her as there's a new leaf about to unfurl. I don't want to risk the new leaf yellowing. I honestly wonder if they need more food than other plants.
Yeah, I think you might be right. Looking more into plant nutrition now and wonder if they were nute deficient or something.
@@petevsplants7516 it is probably a process of elimination lol. If it's not the roots then could it be a virus, if it's not a virus then could it be bugs etc 🤣
Philos are normally really hardy but mine are sassy lol
@@petevsplants7516 I have just bought an Aglaonema Pictum tricolor. Have you got one 😍
In NZ they're really quite rare.
I have the same plant, and I have the same issues. What i have noticed is that the plant is super happy in spring/summer/autumn when out in the garden; as soon as she is back inside… the misery. Spider mites, yellow leaves and the grow point struggle. I live in Brussels, so cold/humid weather. For me, she survives inside with a lot of water and away from the grow light.
haha oh man, that sucks! Glad it gets to live its best life outside for 3/4 of the year though :D Hope you work out what the issue is when brought inside and you can fix it :D
Spider mites are the bane of my existence
Love your videos and yes I’ve learned more today. I have an aero garden looking forward to trying il
Oh, thanks a lot, Karen! That means a lot :)
So long as you're cleaning up after yourself, the missus shouldn't get pissy imho. Just like any hobby. Keep ya shit tidy and clean up any mess ya make and it should all be sweet. At least in theory. Humans can be odd critters sometimes. lol
The monstrosity you mention at 18:15, I'd just leave as is in its own pot and see what it does. Now it's got less foliage to deal with, it might take off again. I'd have potted them separately but understand space and not wanting extra pots to tend.
haha yeah fortunately she's pretty good about things :D
Yes, experimentation with different substrates.
:D hehe always! A good way to hedge your bets too
The research I've done difference between mamei and silver cloud is one is a crawler one is a climber
Yeah, I'll have to just pay attention to how they grow in future instead hehe
There is no nutriments in this perlite bark mix. A plant needs soil to get the nutriments and settle the roots. I think that Chunky Mix is a social media trend ... I have tried myself and the plants are growing small.. 50% coco 50% chunk is the way to go for me ! I have seen great improvements...
Cheers, mate!
Mamei have longer, arrow shaped leaves with not that much silver at all, while Silver Cloud has round leaves with. LOT of silver. What you bought as a Mamei is a Silver Cloud and you got scammed because actual mamei are more valuable. However it could be a Pastazanum-McDowell situation.
Yeah, this sort of situation irritates me so much in the plant world. Whether maliciously or ignorantly, the number of plants that are mislabelled and sold is so frustrating.
I recently proped and chopped my silver/mamei (bunnings buy and sometimes they're mislabled plants) ... fingers are crossed they root! Both plants are crawlers and many plant people say there's little difference between the two mature plants (they're both crawlers, have red /pinkish back veining when mature and both start getting a heary shape)... mistakes are expected, though I suspect they're the same damn plant.....
Yeah, you're probably right.
Not saying that its flat mites but flat mites do I only attack growth points.
haha it seems everyone thinks everything is flat mites currently
How about a video on eliminating thrips from your collection? Thanks.
That plant could have mites and low humidity, I put mine out in the rain,plus mine are semi hydro,that must be the silver cloud,it climbs.from NZ
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@32:19 🤣🤣
lol get it up ya :D
In answer to your question. 👍 yes
Hehe
My silver cloud was also struggling with growth points, I have chopped it and half of the cuttings died. The only ones that survived were already rooted in the pot.
Interesting. I'll have to see how the ones in the water propagate. The tip seems to be pushing out its roots still, but the lower most leaf has carked it already.
@@petevsplants7516 That happened with my Silver Cloud when I propagated it. I forgot to say, the cataphyl looks like that normally. It is quite flat and unusual. My silver cloud sort of transferred to mature cataphyls instead of sheaths connected to the leaf and only then did the problems occur. It might be one of those things where the plant suffers to be beautiful e.g. all white variegated monstera
Ohhh, you are the same person from Aussie English 🤭... I thought I was seeing doubles.
Haha I am :) well spotted. Are you a listener?
@Pete vs Plants yup, first an Aussie English viewer, now a Pete vs Plants viewer 😊
My Silver Cloud ⛅️ s a little crunchy at the point of the leave but not too much. I think mine really doesn’t like being dry. Mine is small but still growing.
What's your humidity normally at?
It’s lives in my bathroom so probably 65% or more depending on our humidity outside.
yellowing leaves is usually a root problem, mostly overwatering and the consequence being root rot
Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head there :D
Philodendron mamei, I've found, if the most dramatic and hard to care for plant I've ever owned. Out of nowhere I had 3 of 4 leafs yellow, the I got a half leaf grow, then one that unwrapped torn, then another deformed leaf. I finally got a decent leaf and I'm not sure what I was doing wrong or how I corrected it.
lol yeah feels about right... All mine bar one looks like shit. The one that looks good is AMAZING but only has 2 leaves after recent propagation haha
@Pete vs Plants it's disappointing because it really is a beautiful plant. I'm preying mine is finally happy but have little faith it ever will be 🤣
My mamei and yes they are silvercloud turned crunchy but I think it was too bright under the lights I had on them.
Ah interesting. Did you move it away and see some better results?
@petevsplants7516 yes they have recovered. I now use barrina for them. As it is cold here in winter.
Dude, why didn't you just pull the whole entire plant out of the pot and off of the pole? I just knew you were going to do that. What's going on with the entire root ball? What's going on around that moss pole deeper in? Just wanna know.
Root rot :(
My understanding mamei or silver cloud is a crawler. Dont know why bunnings staked them up
Yeah, it's a strange one. I've heard mixed things like you can grow them either way and its fine, or they're definitely crawlers or definitely climbers. It's a weird one... I guess you just have to watch the plant and see how it grows.
that's a ground crawling plant, not a climbing one.. shoukd remove that from it's pole
Philodendron Mamei it crawler - maybe that's the issue ?
Hehe could be
0:15 - 0:26 Me today, treating the same plant for the 100th time for aphids because they just. Won't. Die.
I know... wtf pests...
Aren't those Philodendron crawlers?
I've heard mixed things which is why I'm confused here haha
My silver cloud does the same thing it drives me insane lol
Annoying!
@@petevsplants7516 vary lol I took ur advice and started over with the cuttings
Where do you get the activated charcoal powder? I'm also in Aus.
Dont put all ur eggs in one basket...lmbo 😁😊
lol :D thanks mate
😢😢 prefer transparent pot to check the root
Yeah, 100% correct. I need to repot a lot of my original moss poles as I couldn't get my hands on any clear pots at that time :(
A mamei is a crawler. The Silver cloud is a climber from what I have seen. My mamei is a crawler. How you got that on that pole? 😂
lol google seems to think it can do both. But looking at it now in this video and how it's growing I'm thinking "Damn that was dumb!" lol
I almost did that to my philodendron Sodiroi aff until I seen a video on what happens when you put a crawler on a pole. 😂😂😂 everything is a learning experience
Oh and all the ones you say aren't that important you can save for your mum next christmas.
Ouch! 😀
@agneslazarenko2653 well did you watch him.pick the plants he potted for her.He picked what he didn't want-sooo.
HAHAHAHA :D
Brutal... lol well I was hardly going to give her my largest Albo to hand off to my relatives who aren't plant people
Pete. wouldn't give any of mine away, I'm greedy. I'm an old lady, we grow African violets, granddaughter wanted one and I knew she wouldn't take care of it, so I told her no.
What's the name or type of charcoal that you put on the cut ends of the plants? TYIA
Hey mate! Activated charcoal.
@@petevsplants7516 OK. Awesome! Thank you!
ok I'm confused bc I got a tc Mamei Silver Cloud 😂😂 idk wth I have
Hahaha lol could be either
Pretty sure silver cloud is mamii x glorriosum
Ah interesting. I'll have to check. Thanks mate
Mamei is a crawler..
Came to the comments to say this also. The Mamei is a crawler, not a climbing philodendron
Yeah, I've seen a few comments saying that. I'd been told even though that's the case it can be trained to climb. Google seems to agree. Next time I'll have to try it crawling I guess.
What is pond??
Do you sell many plants?
Hey mate, I'm still in a growing out phase at the moment. I've got stock that can probably be sold, but haven't started just yet as I want to make sure they're all as big as possible and as pretty as possible too hehe
Don't put all your eggs in one basket!
That's the one
Please.... don't propagate the word "janky" 😅
Hahaha... it'll multiply huh?