Hey guys. , I have been using my RTR 160 4V for the last 3 years , I drove 42 000 kms right now the engine refinement is next level , even though I can't change clutch plates , chain spokets,even I can't change battery also. I just upgraded my bike tyres to front 100 , rear 140 section tyres am getting the mileage of 39kmpl it's enough, at last i blindly suggest you go for Apache 160 4v.
That's because of your bias towards the decision you made 3 years ago. You subconsciously feel the need to justify the money you spent on your bike. You might me correct but your word cannot be taken seriously by a potential buyer. That's why we have auto reporters. To to give us their unbiased(potentially) views and recommendations. Happy riding.
@@BhaskarKashyap I think we cannot belive in auto reviewers alone blindly , because we would never know what is going on behind the camera 😏. So it is better to personally experience the thing by yourself and make the decision according to your conclusion, it would be far better.
@@suresh51675 i suggest you to take Apache 160 4v. My personal experience was that I drove both the n160 and Apache 160 4v in terms of weight Apache is slightly balance-able because the weight of Apache 160 4v is 146 kgs. N160 is 154kgs.
I bought RTR 1604v special edition over Pulser 160 last month. Following are the reasons-. I had a bad experience with Bajaj regarding their engine quality over time, the poor quality of spare parts, and the bad resale value. There is a 15-year-old Apache also already at my home and believe me it's still running nice and smooth. Apache is providing everything at this price except the dual channel ABS. And I think it's a good value-for-money product in this segment.
Tu kharid ke pachta raha hai as u might ignore it that time or u unware about this bike. Itna ganda dikhne wala bike apache 4v😂n160 ke samne. Dont be jealous.
@@subhadeeppodder apni apni soch h. Jaruri nahi tu jaisa sochta h vaise hi sab sochte h kiddo. "Ganda dikhne wala" kya hota h? Tatti lagi aati uspar company se? Bhai jaise kisi ki shakl gandi hoti h lekin usko apni shakl sabse achchi lagti h, aise hi tujhe N160 achhi lagti hogi.
I am a fan Of both pulsar and apache but due to Pulsars killer looks I choose pulsar 180 over Apache 180 and believe me i abuse my pulsar 180 a lot And ridden 30k on odo 2017 bs4 variant I didn’t regret even at once Easy parts availability, Better service available in small towns Mileage Though back in 2017 when i have to choose between the 2 bikes many people said Pulsar engines this that quality blah blah so I was bit confused Wherther to buy Apache or Pulsar but i think my Choice wasn’t Bad Apache may have better quality but pulsar is worth Your money spent
Hello everyone, welcome to the game 'Find who tells the TRUTH' "Zigwheels vs Autocar India" '"Pulsar n160 vs Apache RTR 160 4v'" To point out of the difference, I have mentioned each motorcycle's data given by them in their videos side by side. Performance test: N160 (Zigwheels vs AutoCar India) 0-60: 5.24s v 5.41s 0-80: 9.44s v no data 0-100: 16.55s v 21.10s RTR 160 4V 0-60: 5.58s v 4.86s 0-80: 9.84s v no data 0-100: 18.34s v 16.64s ***All roll on tests in ZW says N160 is faster than RTR 160 4V whereas ACI the opposite than RTR 160 4V is faster than N160 in all roll on acceleration tests So the thing is not just ZW tests say N160 is faster in all tests, except topspeed maybe, than RTR 160 4V but also look at the differences in numbers as well. Especially in the 0-100 run. ZG results are nearly 5 seconds, like around 4.5 seconds!!! faster for N160 than what ACI claims. Or ACI claims N160 is almost 5 seconds slower than what ZW claims, whichever way you want to put it. **DO NOTE that even Bajaj claims best is class roll on acceleration in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears for N160 compared to competitors in its class, which surely includes RTR 160 4V as well. (You can check Bajaj website) The same continues over to the other most important aspect for these motorcycles, the MILEAGE. Again, ZW vs ACI: in kmpl N160: City: 59.11 vs 43.16 Highway: 44.38 vs 46.12 RTR 160 4V: City: 53.32 vs 41.58 Highway: 48.16 vs 51.94 Once again, such a stark difference. Be a judge for yourself and find who tells the truth, or maybe even both say the truth.. Autocar India's N160 vs RTR 160 4V video link: th-cam.com/video/s-3-3-KdqUI/w-d-xo.html
I used the RTR 160 4v for 2 years 20k kms I can say that you can trust on engine refinement, the same cannot be said so soon for the Pulsar. Both the bikes are sorted in most ways, for me it would be the riding posture/comfort that would work, for guys above 5.10 Pulsar, below that can blindly go for RTR.. I am almost 6ft tall and never felt comfortable on RTR in aggressive riding, the foot pegs are high and not enough rear set, I always felt as I was sitting on top of the bike
I am using RTR 160 4v for, 1 year around 16k km, giving me around 45+ milega on highway average speed of 70 kmph. At its peak speed around 80-95 kmph it doesn't vibration.
I own the apache and what every youtuber will not tell you is that suspension is not good on concrete roads You can feel even minor potholes and they have a faulty conset which will lose it barring ball in time and you have get it repaired every time.
Apache rtr 160 4v now with so much improvement from it's earlier iterations remind me of that Jose mourinho quote : they are investments from the past.
Well if one is looking for a bike in this segment which can serve as a family bike n fun to ride at the same time n also touring can be done....Apache is a better option because of the following reasons: 1. Spacious n comfortable seat for rider as well as pillion. (Emergency pe 3 log vi bath sakta ha jo N160 me possible nehi ha) 2. Ladies footrest, honestly it's much needed for mom/wife/sister wearing saree 3. Wider handle bar n comfortable seating posture for longer rides. Only I wish Apache had dual channel abs.😢
I'd choose the N160 Dual for, well, dual channel ABS at ₹1.28 lac! Safety and comfort are my biggest priorities. I've yet to test ride it, but from online reviews, I think I'd go with the N160 over the RTR 160 anyway.
As a RTR160 SPECIAL EDITION owner I solely recommend the Apache...I reached a top speed of 146k/mph in straight road and never slipped with my brackings... In terms of milage,speed, comfort, safely, riding modes the bike completely satisfied me and I have nothing to disappoint with...U can still think of RTR brother... All the best for new bike...if RTR is getting away from the mind it should be only because of KTM bikes...from Tamilnadu ♥️
@@PranjalKakati I didn't modified anything...we can cruze in 115-120kmph painless...the speed 146kmph i hit was a slight downstream straight long way and a bit jerked but I'm damn sure that with a RTR 160 4v anyone can touch 135-140kmph with a little bit effort...the speed you are telling 114kmph is the top speed in urban mode... check it out the same with sport mode...but please be safe...I won't recommend to be crossing 120kmph all the time including all safety.
While both these bikes are offering great value for money i am pretty happy with my Hero Xtreme 160r. It's a well balanced, peppy and light weight motorcycle with good useful features perfect for my daily commute and some highway drives.
4:25 clearly rear tyre is skidding... I expected rtr 160 might get dual channel abs quick as pulsar took the initiative (kuddos for that) ..only 5k difference is there btwn single and dual channel abs varients...well that 5k can save several thousands of rupees also...hope rtr will also get the option for dual channel abs
Anytime Apache.. i own a first generation RTR .. for the last 11 years i found TVS after sale service, part quality,part life is too good... And trust me my bike still giving same performance only need to service on time.. no major part replacment too.
I have rtr 160 4v same model which showed in video .. If you think for buy Appche then go for its a real beast.🫶🏻❤️ The bulid quality is much better than pulser
How dude, 1.5 ps less power, torque is also less, and weighs 6 kgs more, but pulsar is winning acceleration tests, physics gone for a toss, wah bheta wah, acceleration times are all over the place, do u guys forgotten and done the tests with apache on urban mode???!
This review is biased or not I can't guarantee however, it's for sure that there are other factors apart from torque and HP as well which attributes to a better acceleration, factors like aerodynamics, weight management, engine tuning play pivotal role.
I am 6ft 1 and i feel really uncomfortable with Apache RTR 4V in case of n160 the riding posture is perfect for mee for that reason i am going with N 160
Using apache from past 2 years .....used for long rides too like 170+km ....so for new buyers it's my honest experience. Engine refinement and smoothness - Top notch Breaking - excellent Turning radius - bad Comfort - good Durability - nice(faced accident 2 times ) Acceleration - good Shifting - ok(it lags sometimes)
This is a wrong review. Apache does 0-60 in 4 seconds in best conditions. I personally clocked 4.8 seconds. I guess they have not changed to sports mode while testing this. Didn't expect this kind of review from zigwheels.
@@deepakgupta-ki9mmthicker front tyre, bigger disc brake with duel channel abs is much better than having riding modes or Bluetooth connectivity or adjustable lever and all.
@@deepakgupta-ki9mm TVS is not unsafe but duel channel is safer than single channel. I am sharing my own point of view, you can stick to your choice no problem.
Go Wipe your eyes 😂😂 funny Sumit... As your wish you can choose pulsar but you can't tell that RTR looks funny... It has a great riding posture+comfort with damn awesome looks...
@@jpadharsh5216 but it's kind of future proofing too , you can travel for really long distances and its great for street too. Returned 46kmpl in laddakh
millage, 250 motor no practical use in city, 165cc easy can do 100 stress free with better millage than u,plus its has all the good u have. also big dumb exost free sexy side look .
"Race focussed " wording is almost used synonymous with apache here. Lets not forget we r talking about 160cc commuter here. He is doing everything he can to make apache sound nicer of the two
@@optimus-krv2074 ya. I m inclined towards neither bikes... But looked little biased. He makes it sound as if bajaj launches bikes directly from computer design without track test. 😂
You haven't talked about the Exhaust of the pulsar.. We all know how great the infrastructure is in Mumbai or some other great cities during heavy rains.. how good are the chances of water easily going into the exhaust ?
Guys which one should I consider buying Apache 160 special addition for the look and features...or Pulsar 250 Brookline black for the power... Confused cause want to book within 2months.
Why do a lot of riders call Apache smooth? My son’s Apache was very rough and noisy. You couldn’t go beyond 50 kph without feeling uncomfortable due to vibrations. We finally sold the bike due to this problem. I have driven a Pulser only once or twice but I think it was certainly smoother than Apache, though a little less so than the Unicorn.
For me pulsar first is look no match of look is very bulky and chunky and Apache in real life look plastics everywhere and if it some dirty like a plastic bike for pulsar look 💥💥💥 And 2 is there are many Apache is nearby and old design but n series is very less on road so road presence is so good of n160 it has fresh and new design and it is so smooth It has dual channel abs and very good headlight and also very good braking it ha 300mm brake inspite of 270mm of Apache and also 37mm of suspension inspite of 31mn of Apache so it look big bike and speedo meter of pulsar is look so good and 100 section tyre in front 8nspite of 90 8n Apache So my choice is pulsar (definately male) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
1:28 very wrong info right there. Rtr 160 does 0-60 in 4 seconds. Both 2v and 4v are much faster than pulsar n160. U can easily see this in lots of drag race videos. Rtr 160 4v : 0-60 4.0 s 0-100 11.6 s Top speed 132 kmph Mileage 40-45 kmpl N160 : 0-60 4.5 s 0-100 13.4 s Top speed 127 kmph Mileage 40-45 kmpl
My 18 year old Pulsar can have a replacement and RTR developed over the years has never been able to convince me, that it is better than a Pulsar. I find the sport traits to be more of marketing gimmick than substance. This N160 might have been refined and well built but it isn't any close to excitement of the original Pulsar or the screamer NS. So, I would give it a pass and might keep waiting until some brand can bring a NS kind of bike with N160 or Unicorn kind of a built or maybe save enough for a big step up to Ninja 300
The Apache 160 4v is quicker than the Pulsar N160 by quite a margin. I don't know where you got your timings from but you can check the drag races between them on TH-cam and in all of them the Apache wins with a big difference both in 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 races.
1:32 Feels like Bhaag Dhanno Bhag, Gunde peeche pade hai (KTM's on our tail). Reminds me of the good old days when the 150s were considered premium. Today it hardly makes any difference. Apache and Pulsars have come a long way. Buy the one you like.
As owner after riding 5k TVS 160 4v Pro: Milage 45-50 Maintenance is low, with smooth engine Cons: Brake is not as expected, going to hilly area you will feel the power issue specially with pillion rider, Overall good commuter bike with sportsy look but not recommended for long ride to hill area as per my experience
I didn't felt any power issues in hilly areas although with pillion...and breaks are also stable for me brother...I rode over 9000 kms from this March 31st... Everything is perfect for me...
@@jeevaganm1020 lucky you, I rode around 5000km till now. Yeah it may very for others but still I feel we should go for TVS 200 4v if budget is not a constraint
@@rajdeepdas9048 Sometimes yes, but I think it's upto rider. Till now I found out Honda highness clutch is very smooth compared to any other bike I get a chance to drive
I am eagerly looking for the TVS to compete with the KTM 390 , if it can be done then forget KTM , anyway Bajaj cannot do even with the collaborations with KTM, so forget about Bajaj, hopping on TVS. TVS please please do it
Well motorcycling isn't always about "which bike is faster" or "which bike has more bhp" Hence I'd happily Ride an RR310 over RC390 ( not saying that RC is a bad bike , it's a great machine too )
Why you guys are doing fake comparison 😂😂we all know 160 4v kan beat pulsar in 0 to 60, 0 to 80 and also in 0-100 also have better high speed. I have apache 160 4v bs4. after 3 years 28k km it still feel refined. It give milage between 48 to 50 kmpl
Fully paid promotion!!! I rided both motorcycle if you go with Apache 1604v you will get more comfort and refined engine then come to Pulsar N160 first priority it's safety & milage so both bikes are value for money. But TVS need to improve safety concerns & Bajaj need to improve overall build quality and comfort also hitting issue level for their Riders.
😂chutiya bana rhe hain. Even TVS Raider 125 with 11.5bhp does 60kmph in 5.6s. And this is the RTR 160 which has a legacy of acceleration in its segment.
Indian manufactured bikes loaded features seem to be good but what about long term reliability? And refinement?.Indian manufacturers design and manufacture and assemble vehicles locally transport and they have tax benefits too....
Do anyone owning RTR 4v special edition feels any kind of pain in the hands after filtering through city traffic? I'm noticing it quite often now not sure what's actually causing it. Vibrations aren't that much tho to cause such pains
i love bajaj n160 soo much. previously i have yamaha sz rr 2.0 150cc. Yamaha sucks quality. Engine kya tel dalu. Bike me daily problem. Service centre guys are from chambal always to loot u.
Please check real world drag race comparison in other channels where you can see the exact opposite of what these people are saying.. Zigwheels.. Your numbers are wrong. 👎
Abhi winner ke liye Apache ka naam lena hota to Zigwheels ki team dance kar rahi hoti. Pulsar winner ghosit krne me skip kr diya part viewers pe daal diya ye question.
I have watched 2 more Drag Race available in TH-cam.. Apache accelerate Faster than pulsar and even in Top Speed.. But this video numbers shows RTR lagging behind pulsar...
Where did you get these god knows what specifications and what a biased comparison 😂.. i mean bro.. You should work for the money paid by bajaj.. But don't think we viewer's are a fool !!
This is Definitely pulsar biased review, i think this is a sponsored video. I thought zigwheels puts out genuine reviews, but today i know, i hoped that I can believe the reviews from this channel, Karthikeya Singh's reputation is damaged, i will unsubscribe, thankyou.
Rtr 160 4v has vibrations beyond 70-80 speed .... build quality is not as good as pulsar 160...breaks are much better in Pulsar n160....TVS really needs to Next generation, complete new Apache 1604v and 200 4v!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
TVs wala plastic tika raha he logo ko Apache lightweight he to pickup jyada he aur kuch nahi , Apache ke engine ko pulsar n160 ke chassis par Chadha de to 100 ki speed bhi nahi pakad paye ,
bought the pulsar N160 its awesome.. its full of surprises its smooth n better built.
Hey guys. ,
I have been using my RTR 160 4V for the last 3 years , I drove 42 000 kms right now the engine refinement is next level , even though I can't change clutch plates , chain spokets,even I can't change battery also.
I just upgraded my bike tyres to front 100 , rear 140 section tyres am getting the mileage of 39kmpl it's enough, at last i blindly suggest you go for Apache 160 4v.
Hi bro i have bought 1604v in jan 2022. I have facing some issues can we have chat?
That's because of your bias towards the decision you made 3 years ago. You subconsciously feel the need to justify the money you spent on your bike. You might me correct but your word cannot be taken seriously by a potential buyer. That's why we have auto reporters. To to give us their unbiased(potentially) views and recommendations. Happy riding.
@@BhaskarKashyap I think we cannot belive in auto reviewers alone blindly , because we would never know what is going on behind the camera 😏. So it is better to personally experience the thing by yourself and make the decision according to your conclusion, it would be far better.
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
@@suresh51675 i suggest you to take Apache 160 4v. My personal experience was that I drove both the n160 and Apache 160 4v in terms of weight Apache is slightly balance-able because the weight of Apache 160 4v is 146 kgs. N160 is 154kgs.
It is just great to see Indian Manufacturers leading the most competitive segment in India... Kudos to to them .. 💯❤️
I bought RTR 1604v special edition over Pulser 160 last month. Following are the reasons-.
I had a bad experience with Bajaj regarding their engine quality over time, the poor quality of spare parts, and the bad resale value.
There is a 15-year-old Apache also already at my home and believe me it's still running nice and smooth.
Apache is providing everything at this price except the dual channel ABS. And I think it's a good value-for-money product in this segment.
I have an Apache 160 2v for 10 years...as you said the engine is the strongpoint of this brand....long lasting
Tu kharid ke pachta raha hai as u might ignore it that time or u unware about this bike. Itna ganda dikhne wala bike apache 4v😂n160 ke samne. Dont be jealous.
@@subhadeeppodder apni apni soch h. Jaruri nahi tu jaisa sochta h vaise hi sab sochte h kiddo. "Ganda dikhne wala" kya hota h? Tatti lagi aati uspar company se? Bhai jaise kisi ki shakl gandi hoti h lekin usko apni shakl sabse achchi lagti h, aise hi tujhe N160 achhi lagti hogi.
@@subhadeeppodderListen kid apperance are always subjective. Kisi ko ghodo ke samney gadhey pasand aate hai to kuch bol nahi sakte.
I am a fan Of both pulsar and apache but due to Pulsars killer looks I choose pulsar 180 over Apache 180 and believe me i abuse my pulsar 180 a lot And ridden 30k on odo 2017 bs4 variant I didn’t regret even at once
Easy parts availability, Better service available in small towns Mileage
Though back in 2017 when i have to choose between the 2 bikes many people said Pulsar engines this that quality blah blah so I was bit confused Wherther to buy Apache or Pulsar but i think my Choice wasn’t Bad Apache may have better quality but pulsar is worth Your money spent
Hello everyone, welcome to the game 'Find who tells the TRUTH'
"Zigwheels vs Autocar India"
'"Pulsar n160 vs Apache RTR 160 4v'"
To point out of the difference, I have mentioned each motorcycle's data given by them in their videos side by side.
Performance test:
N160 (Zigwheels vs AutoCar India)
0-60: 5.24s v 5.41s
0-80: 9.44s v no data
0-100: 16.55s v 21.10s
RTR 160 4V
0-60: 5.58s v 4.86s
0-80: 9.84s v no data
0-100: 18.34s v 16.64s
***All roll on tests in ZW says N160 is faster than RTR 160 4V whereas ACI the opposite than RTR 160 4V is faster than N160 in all roll on acceleration tests
So the thing is not just ZW tests say N160 is faster in all tests, except topspeed maybe, than RTR 160 4V but also look at the differences in numbers as well.
Especially in the 0-100 run. ZG results are nearly 5 seconds, like around 4.5 seconds!!! faster for N160 than what ACI claims. Or ACI claims N160 is almost 5 seconds slower than what ZW claims, whichever way you want to put it.
**DO NOTE that even Bajaj claims best is class roll on acceleration in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears for N160 compared to competitors in its class, which surely includes RTR 160 4V as well. (You can check Bajaj website)
The same continues over to the other most important aspect for these motorcycles, the MILEAGE.
Again, ZW vs ACI: in kmpl
N160:
City: 59.11 vs 43.16
Highway: 44.38 vs 46.12
RTR 160 4V:
City: 53.32 vs 41.58
Highway: 48.16 vs 51.94
Once again, such a stark difference. Be a judge for yourself and find who tells the truth, or maybe even both say the truth..
Autocar India's N160 vs RTR 160 4V video link: th-cam.com/video/s-3-3-KdqUI/w-d-xo.html
U just made my day
Whah..!!! What an observation!!
I observed the same but thanks for the detatails
So wat u r trying to prove here! Come to the point
I used the RTR 160 4v for 2 years 20k kms I can say that you can trust on engine refinement, the same cannot be said so soon for the Pulsar. Both the bikes are sorted in most ways, for me it would be the riding posture/comfort that would work, for guys above 5.10 Pulsar, below that can blindly go for RTR..
I am almost 6ft tall and never felt comfortable on RTR in aggressive riding, the foot pegs are high and not enough rear set, I always felt as I was sitting on top of the bike
no one told this.. thank you for such feedback
im also almost 6ft tall
The pulsar got a new engine bro,tryi it out and judge ...
I am also a 6 feeter and i wanted to know this, thanks for the review on height.
@@pranavjs new engine sucks what you know about bikes
I am using RTR 160 4v for, 1 year around 16k km, giving me around 45+ milega on highway average speed of 70 kmph. At its peak speed around 80-95 kmph it doesn't vibration.
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
@@suresh51675 TVs Ronin, hunter
I own the apache and what every youtuber will not tell you is that suspension is not good on concrete roads You can feel even minor potholes and they have a faulty conset which will lose it barring ball in time and you have get it repaired every time.
Go to a good mechanic bro, showroom guys can't do shit.
Even i had this problem, got it fixed outside & didn't even replace the coneset.
Same with mine too, due to this body panels started to rattle in 1.5 year
@@The.Dark.Knight. exactly showroom mechanics of TVS are shit, I don't know why.
Apache rtr 160 4v now with so much improvement from it's earlier iterations remind me of that Jose mourinho quote : they are investments from the past.
Otamendi, De Bruyne, Silva...
Well if one is looking for a bike in this segment which can serve as a family bike n fun to ride at the same time n also touring can be done....Apache is a better option because of the following reasons:
1. Spacious n comfortable seat for rider as well as pillion. (Emergency pe 3 log vi bath sakta ha jo N160 me possible nehi ha)
2. Ladies footrest, honestly it's much needed for mom/wife/sister wearing saree
3. Wider handle bar n comfortable seating posture for longer rides.
Only I wish Apache had dual channel abs.😢
It has now
I'd choose the N160 Dual for, well, dual channel ABS at ₹1.28 lac! Safety and comfort are my biggest priorities. I've yet to test ride it, but from online reviews, I think I'd go with the N160 over the RTR 160 anyway.
As a RTR160 SPECIAL EDITION owner I solely recommend the Apache...I reached a top speed of 146k/mph in straight road and never slipped with my brackings... In terms of milage,speed, comfort, safely, riding modes the bike completely satisfied me and I have nothing to disappoint with...U can still think of RTR brother... All the best for new bike...if RTR is getting away from the mind it should be only because of KTM bikes...from Tamilnadu ♥️
@@jeevaganm1020 How man, did you modified you engine🤔 I am able to reach only 111km/hr. And as per TVS claim also max Speed is not that much
To be accurate 114km/hr
@@PranjalKakati I didn't modified anything...we can cruze in 115-120kmph painless...the speed 146kmph i hit was a slight downstream straight long way and a bit jerked but I'm damn sure that with a RTR 160 4v anyone can touch 135-140kmph with a little bit effort...the speed you are telling 114kmph is the top speed in urban mode... check it out the same with sport mode...but please be safe...I won't recommend to be crossing 120kmph all the time including all safety.
While both these bikes are offering great value for money i am pretty happy with my Hero Xtreme 160r. It's a well balanced, peppy and light weight motorcycle with good useful features perfect for my daily commute and some highway drives.
I like Xtreme apart from the tail section 😪
@@Abhijeet_1997 I understand but you can always upgrade it with the external grab rails. Trust me it enhances the look greatly.
How much it gives mileage
@@vinithd6320 it depends greatly onthe riding style. The max i have got is 62 and the minimum i have got is 36.
@@vinithd6320 It gives around 50 kmpl in City. Second service done.
It has been a month since i bought n160 , if you ask me n160 is a really beautiful bike in all the manners
How much is on road price I want to buy?
@@manishankarkareti4362 i got it for 1.58 lakh on road
@@babaramrahim9890 location?
@@suryateja2k11 UP Sonebhadra
I would prefer duel channel abs rather than Bluetooth connectivity, riding modes, adjustable levers or front suspension.
rtr has radial tyres
4:25 clearly rear tyre is skidding... I expected rtr 160 might get dual channel abs quick as pulsar took the initiative (kuddos for that) ..only 5k difference is there btwn single and dual channel abs varients...well that 5k can save several thousands of rupees also...hope rtr will also get the option for dual channel abs
That would make RTR 160 4v much closer to 200 4v atleast interms of Dual channel ABS specs
@@Anonymous-xy6nh does that mean the rtr 160 user should not have a safety feature which might save his life??
Anytime Apache.. i own a first generation RTR .. for the last 11 years i found TVS after sale service, part quality,part life is too good... And trust me my bike still giving same performance only need to service on time.. no major part replacment too.
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
I have rtr 160 4v same model which showed in video ..
If you think for buy Appche then go for its a real beast.🫶🏻❤️
The bulid quality is much better than pulser
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
59kmpl milege for pulsar🤣🤣🤣.What a review🙏.
Yes fake reviews 🤣🤣🤣
Even fuel efficient fz strrugles to give that mileage
How dude, 1.5 ps less power, torque is also less, and weighs 6 kgs more, but pulsar is winning acceleration tests, physics gone for a toss, wah bheta wah, acceleration times are all over the place, do u guys forgotten and done the tests with apache on urban mode???!
Bro it's new bike soo bacically sponsered by Bajaj..
Itne bade bade chanel without sponsorship compaire nehi karte hai
Maybe gearbox? Or fuel quantity?
This review is biased or not I can't guarantee however, it's for sure that there are other factors apart from torque and HP as well which attributes to a better acceleration, factors like aerodynamics, weight management, engine tuning play pivotal role.
Internal Gear ratio and power output at Max rpm does matter
These numbers are from labs. Real world performance is different.
Good Joke bro ! 😀
Even Apache 160 2V is initially much more quicker than Pulsar N160.
Go n check Suraj Verma Drag Races.
Correct every youtuber who did drag races said the same don't know how come only here 4v is slower than n160
I am 6ft 1 and i feel really uncomfortable with Apache RTR 4V in case of n160 the riding posture is perfect for mee for that reason i am going with N 160
Using apache from past 2 years .....used for long rides too like 170+km ....so for new buyers it's my honest experience.
Engine refinement and smoothness - Top notch
Breaking - excellent
Turning radius - bad
Comfort - good
Durability - nice(faced accident 2 times )
Acceleration - good
Shifting - ok(it lags sometimes)
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
This is a wrong review. Apache does 0-60 in 4 seconds in best conditions. I personally clocked 4.8 seconds. I guess they have not changed to sports mode while testing this. Didn't expect this kind of review from zigwheels.
Safety is always ahead of features, in that case pulsar is the winner for sure...!!!!
How bro can you explain?
@@deepakgupta-ki9mmthicker front tyre, bigger disc brake with duel channel abs is much better than having riding modes or Bluetooth connectivity or adjustable lever and all.
@@debasissikder6534 dont compare .....just say is it un safe tvs 160 4v bs6 fi ? please help i was thinking to buy it
@@deepakgupta-ki9mm there is nothing unsafe here.....he said in comparison with apache
@@deepakgupta-ki9mm TVS is not unsafe but duel channel is safer than single channel. I am sharing my own point of view, you can stick to your choice no problem.
I'd personally choose the Pulsar here, it does what its supposed to do, nice torque band makes a good commuter. also the apache looks funny.
Go Wipe your eyes 😂😂 funny Sumit... As your wish you can choose pulsar but you can't tell that RTR looks funny... It has a great riding posture+comfort with damn awesome looks...
@@jeevaganm1020 Im sure that person haven't seen apache in real life and only judging looks from TH-cam reviews.
@@indrajith_indra For sure brother 🫂❤️🔥
I don't think pulser is so much better in every section as told here,it looks more like a ad. for pulsar
Agreed
Definitely..this is just a paid review
I am using N250, and i simply don't understand why someone will buy 160 when the price difference is just 20-25k.
Btw, 250 is an amazing machine
20-25k is a huge gap in price for this segment
@@jpadharsh5216 but it's kind of future proofing too , you can travel for really long distances and its great for street too.
Returned 46kmpl in laddakh
millage, 250 motor no practical use in city, 165cc easy can do 100 stress free with better millage than u,plus its has all the good u have. also big dumb exost free sexy side look .
@@rajnishdhull333 mujhe to sirf 33 milta hain😅😅
"Race focussed " wording is almost used synonymous with apache here. Lets not forget we r talking about 160cc commuter here.
He is doing everything he can to make apache sound nicer of the two
Did you watch the full video before commenting bro?
@@optimus-krv2074 ya. I m inclined towards neither bikes... But looked little biased. He makes it sound as if bajaj launches bikes directly from computer design without track test. 😂
You haven't talked about the Exhaust of the pulsar.. We all know how great the infrastructure is in Mumbai or some other great cities during heavy rains.. how good are the chances of water easily going into the exhaust ?
bro i am planning to buy rtr 160 4v this month should i wait for the next version in hope that will come with dual channel abs
Wait for next it has changed a way lot
N160 does not come with slipper assist, try to give correct info atleast
Guys which one should I consider buying Apache 160 special addition for the look and features...or Pulsar 250 Brookline black for the power... Confused cause want to book within 2months.
RTR!
N250 bas radial tyre dalwa Lena micilin road tyre or something like that nd n250 comes with dual channel abs now
@@hardeepjohal6693 n250 kaa Brookline black Mai looks bhi badya laga mere Koo🤔
@@weeb_wrld9915 bro agar aapko power chahiya aur dual channel abs chahiya aur new looks chahiya go for n250
@@gauravsingh432 yea bro 90% confirm huu... planning for this dewali 🙏...N250 black looks cool tho
Why do a lot of riders call Apache smooth? My son’s Apache was very rough and noisy. You couldn’t go beyond 50 kph without feeling uncomfortable due to vibrations. We finally sold the bike due to this problem. I have driven a Pulser only once or twice but I think it was certainly smoother than Apache, though a little less so than the Unicorn.
For me pulsar first is look no match of look is very bulky and chunky and Apache in real life look plastics everywhere and if it some dirty like a plastic bike for pulsar look 💥💥💥
And 2 is there are many Apache is nearby and old design but n series is very less on road so road presence is so good of n160 it has fresh and new design and it is so smooth
It has dual channel abs and very good headlight and also very good braking it ha 300mm brake inspite of 270mm of Apache and also 37mm of suspension inspite of 31mn of Apache so it look big bike and speedo meter of pulsar is look so good and 100 section tyre in front 8nspite of 90 8n Apache
So my choice is pulsar (definately male) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
power😌👎👎👎 n160
Bro bro your n160 copied design from mt15 .
@@Vijju.011 so what 🤣
1:28 very wrong info right there. Rtr 160 does 0-60 in 4 seconds. Both 2v and 4v are much faster than pulsar n160. U can easily see this in lots of drag race videos.
Rtr 160 4v :
0-60 4.0 s
0-100 11.6 s
Top speed 132 kmph
Mileage 40-45 kmpl
N160 :
0-60 4.5 s
0-100 13.4 s
Top speed 127 kmph
Mileage 40-45 kmpl
Correct I am too amazed by the results this means all the drag races done in different different youtube channels is false
Kabhi dono bikes ka weight karke dekh lena fir pata chalega Apache fast kyo he ,
My 18 year old Pulsar can have a replacement and RTR developed over the years has never been able to convince me, that it is better than a Pulsar. I find the sport traits to be more of marketing gimmick than substance. This N160 might have been refined and well built but it isn't any close to excitement of the original Pulsar or the screamer NS. So, I would give it a pass and might keep waiting until some brand can bring a NS kind of bike with N160 or Unicorn kind of a built or maybe save enough for a big step up to Ninja 300
Hello video maker bhai in Apache lovers ko ye bhi bata do ki pulsar n160 ka weight Apache se 15 kg jyada he aur weight bahut matter karta he
The Apache 160 4v is quicker than the Pulsar N160 by quite a margin. I don't know where you got your timings from but you can check the drag races between them on TH-cam and in all of them the Apache wins with a big difference both in 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 races.
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
The pulsar mileage becomes very poor as the bike ages... I owned a 150 i could see the mileage drop despite good maintenance.
Mine 2009-p150 has completed 1.4 lakhs km , I'm getting mileage of 44 average in chaotic and hectic Bangalore roads.
Mine 2013 model.
Engine rebuild by me and it gives me around 40-50kmpl.
Apache's engine is way more better than pulsar especially in its durability. Bajaj still needs improvement. 🙏✌️
They ll never improve. Always shitty engine. It's the same for past twenty years.
@@rv6569 true Apache engine is another level i have driven 33k no any issues buttersmooth and the double barrel exaust is blessed to hear
1:32 Feels like Bhaag Dhanno Bhag, Gunde peeche pade hai (KTM's on our tail). Reminds me of the good old days when the 150s were considered premium. Today it hardly makes any difference. Apache and Pulsars have come a long way. Buy the one you like.
Those mileage figures of Pulsar 🤯 are you sure.. my V15 with 12hp engine gives me 55 max 😵💫
I own one its shows 51kmph on the meter i Haven't done firt service yet.
It ran over 280 kmph
I have achieved 65kmpl from my r15m. New gen bs6 bikes are more efficient than the older ones.
As owner after riding 5k TVS 160 4v
Pro:
Milage 45-50
Maintenance is low, with smooth engine
Cons:
Brake is not as expected, going to hilly area you will feel the power issue specially with pillion rider,
Overall good commuter bike with sportsy look but not recommended for long ride to hill area as per my experience
Do you feel any pain in your hands after filtering through city traffic in Apache RTR 160 4V???
I didn't felt any power issues in hilly areas although with pillion...and breaks are also stable for me brother...I rode over 9000 kms from this March 31st... Everything is perfect for me...
@@jeevaganm1020 lucky you, I rode around 5000km till now. Yeah it may very for others but still I feel we should go for TVS 200 4v if budget is not a constraint
@@rajdeepdas9048 Sometimes yes, but I think it's upto rider. Till now I found out Honda highness clutch is very smooth compared to any other bike I get a chance to drive
@@PranjalKakati what exacy do you mean by riders??
I am eagerly looking for the TVS to compete with the KTM 390 , if it can be done then forget KTM , anyway Bajaj cannot do even with the collaborations with KTM, so forget about Bajaj, hopping on TVS. TVS please please do it
TVS please do it before I am getting too older to ride one of that bike
Well motorcycling isn't always about "which bike is faster" or "which bike has more bhp"
Hence I'd happily Ride an RR310 over RC390 ( not saying that RC is a bad bike , it's a great machine too )
I just have one question, where was the 160R
both are great bikes apache mets the power and pulsar mets style 👍👍👍
Feels like they are rooting for Bajaj.
Is it sponsered video
I own Pulsar N160, its been more than 10 days and clocked over 280kms.
Its my first bike.
What's the experience..? I am gonna buy very soon
@@debojyotimazumder6692 its pretty good. Great mileage. Perfect for my height.
Why you guys are doing fake comparison 😂😂we all know 160 4v kan beat pulsar in 0 to 60, 0 to 80 and also in 0-100 also have better high speed. I have apache 160 4v bs4. after 3 years 28k km it still feel refined. It give milage between 48 to 50 kmpl
Fully paid promotion!!! I rided both motorcycle if you go with Apache 1604v you will get more comfort and refined engine then come to Pulsar N160 first priority it's safety & milage so both bikes are value for money. But TVS need to improve safety concerns & Bajaj need to improve overall build quality and comfort also hitting issue level for their Riders.
This video says Pulsar is quicker but I saw a drag race between these two motorcycles....rtr160 won with ease.
When it comes to NVH Indian manufacturers came along way in engineering
😂chutiya bana rhe hain. Even TVS Raider 125 with 11.5bhp does 60kmph in 5.6s. And this is the RTR 160 which has a legacy of acceleration in its segment.
I need bike for only city riding, what do I choose n160 or rtr 4v??? Pls help
For city commute Xtreme 160r would be better than these both. Try test riding it.
@@R4v3N007 Thank you
@@R4v3N007 lol N160 is better than xtreme in every possible way.
@@seepranavg Beg to differ for city riding condition. The light weight and narrow turning radius makes xtreme way more nimble in the city.
@@R4v3N007 Then get a splendor
Indian manufactured bikes loaded features seem to be good but what about long term reliability? And refinement?.Indian manufacturers design and manufacture and assemble vehicles locally transport and they have tax benefits too....
Does the RTR 160 4v have a slipper clutch? mentioned in the specs of the video 🙄
Neither of them has slipper clutch. It's a normal wet multi-clutch
Slip & assist clutch kab aa gaya en dono mey ?? @zigwheels
N160 faster than rtr😱.I dont think so
Apache ka weight kam he n160 se us par vajah bandho dono bikes ka weight same karo fir race lagao fir pata chalega Apache fast he ya nahi
As a ex Bajaj owner, i will never suggest a bajaj bike.
You forgot to mention- This video is sponsored by Bajaj.
🤣🤣🤣. He literally said apache digital console is useless, on the other hand n160 usb charging is useful.
Getting my n160 at the end of the month....😍
Which city ?
@@adityakapkar7386 alappuzha, kerala
On road price
@@sachinbaiju6568 1.68
@@sandy99797 bro 168? I got it for 164 Kannur Kerala
Do anyone owning RTR 4v special edition feels any kind of pain in the hands after filtering through city traffic? I'm noticing it quite often now not sure what's actually causing it. Vibrations aren't that much tho to cause such pains
having watched the drag races between these 2 bikes, i guess there is some error in 0-60 and 0-100 times of pulsar. apache is faster than n160
Sir please compare pulsar n160 with hornet 2.0
apache is a great bike. this model like rtr 200 should have had a split seat.
If you say powerful motor under 160cc is Apache then where does Yamaha mt 15 which has R15 engine with 18 ps and 14 Nm at higher rpms gone
New RTR 160 2v cost 1.24 n pulsar n160 dual channel abs cost 1.28, hmmm
160 4v is best❤
City mileage is more than highway mileage
Head turns in Apache special edition only
i love bajaj n160 soo much. previously i have yamaha sz rr 2.0 150cc. Yamaha sucks quality. Engine kya tel dalu. Bike me daily problem. Service centre guys are from chambal always to loot u.
Make video on n250 dual channel abs
Wtf apache is much more quicker with its aggressive pulling than n160.. You can check 0-100 test of these two bike.
Paid review for sure.. 😶🌫
Please check real world drag race comparison in other channels where you can see the exact opposite of what these people are saying.. Zigwheels.. Your numbers are wrong. 👎
Both bike don't have slip & assist clutch
The Bajaj Pulsar cant beat the Rtr 160. Do a drag and let us know the truth. This review feels like its trying to please Bajaj or something.
I am 6ft tall which bike is suitable for me ...
Abhi winner ke liye Apache ka naam lena hota to Zigwheels ki team dance kar rahi hoti. Pulsar winner ghosit krne me skip kr diya part viewers pe daal diya ye question.
Then what about MT15? And pulsar copied the design from everyone knows . Actually fun is city mileage is more compared to Highway
I have watched 2 more Drag Race available in TH-cam.. Apache accelerate Faster than pulsar and even in Top Speed.. But this video numbers shows RTR lagging behind pulsar...
Come on bro Apache does 0-60 in 4secs and 0-100 in 12secs
Bajaj ke sabhi bick me ek bada problem h wo h graundclear ka
Tvs bick ka graundclear best h
N160 yet to launch in Karnataka
I have Apache rtr 2004v bs6 it's giving me 42kmpl in city in highway I'm getting 45kmpl
apache rtr 160 4v real city millagw plz
Blindly said king of 160cc(Apache )👍
I Like Pulser design
Any day RTR is ❤
0-100 seems a bit off here. I have seen better numbers for fz.18 seconds is too much.
Where did you get these god knows what specifications and what a biased comparison 😂.. i mean bro..
You should work for the money paid by bajaj..
But don't think we viewer's are a fool !!
Always Rtr lover❤
Bro ...my height is 5.4 which bike choose
@@suresh51675 go for RTR 2V seat height is 790mm
Rtr is Best.....Pulsar Is Not As Good as Rtr 4v.... But new pulsar is good over All Pulsar 150 gen
RTR does not have turn by turn navigation!
Jo v ho Apache 4v bohot hi badiya hai.
This is Definitely pulsar biased review, i think this is a sponsored video. I thought zigwheels puts out genuine reviews, but today i know, i hoped that I can believe the reviews from this channel, Karthikeya Singh's reputation is damaged, i will unsubscribe, thankyou.
Butthurt patché kid? 🤣
Rtr 160 4v has vibrations beyond 70-80 speed .... build quality is not as good as pulsar 160...breaks are much better in Pulsar n160....TVS really needs to Next generation, complete new Apache 1604v and 200 4v!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
TVs wala plastic tika raha he logo ko
Apache lightweight he to pickup jyada he aur kuch nahi , Apache ke engine ko pulsar n160 ke chassis par Chadha de to 100 ki speed bhi nahi pakad paye ,
I still find the RTR more likable than the Pulsars. It just feels pakaa for me
My height 5.4 .which bike choose..bro
Its not sorcery, its a PULSAR
I recently purchased f250
Go for rtr,u will love it