My team follows military convoy ops. We maintain coms (HAM); lead rig up front, a middle and an tail leader. Rigs are also numbered with a square paper sticky in the window and we do a count off at every pause, so we know we have everyone. We have a designated point guide with reflective vest so the rig being guided knows who to watch, ground guide uses uniform distinct hand signals, because it's not always easy to understand verbal cues with the sound of the engine and other people vocalizing their own input further confusing the driver. We have emergency first aid, food, water and overnight gear and trash bags. Tools, fluids (oil, coolant, power steering, etc). On paper this sounds like a lot, but when your group is tight and in sync these things are on auto-pilot and we are able to focus on what we're out there to do...respect others and have fun.
Trail Etiquette is entirely in my eyes common sense. Treat others how you want to be treated. Also when on the trail it is my home and I will always keep it clean. OCD
...If you are the guy arriving into base camp late, like 1 AM. Don't have a full volume conversation after you pull in. "Whew! It was crazy getting up here!" Understand there are a dozen other vehicles and people already there and sleeping. Grab your minimum sleeping gear, settle down and rack out. Say hi to everyone in the morning while you're mooching coffee! :-)
Great video, we have a dedicated frequency for coms and we make sure we do a quick radio check at our meet point before departure, it ensures we can keep in touch enroute...makes life so much easier.
I yielded just yesterday to a side-by-side on a narrow rocky logging road wide enough for my Sequoia and about a foot on each side. I keep a mental note of where I've driven..so when I had to back up..I knew that there was a spot not too far back that had enough clearance for those riders to pass. Keep it clean! Be kind always.
Awesome advice, last night on a trail with my truck i stopped moved right half off for two sidebysides to get by, and after awhile they caught up again on the trail i stopped to let them by.kind of proud of myself for doing this unknown rule, now i know,lol
Well since you asked… When traversing obstacles make sure you wait for the next person only after you have gone far enough for them to clear the obstacle so they do not have to stop while still on or in it.
My etiquette rule is to take out more than you took in. I am known to stop and pick up garbage on the trail, and in campsites all around. My trasharoo is my favorite accessory
Thanks for this one haha!! There were a few lessons in there for me. Actually the only reason I clicked it was because there is trail etiquette in mountain biking too and I thought I might learn something here. So thank you again 👍🏻.
Staying on or as close to the trail as possible is huge. The soil is delicate and houses the foundation of the desert ecosystem. Camp in places that are established if possible. Mind the crust. Donuts are for eating.
I'm here to make sure my common sense is on point and to read every comment to learn all l can. I ain't never went out with a group yet, I've been out alone every time without any recovery gear or even a winch. Yup not too smart i know. I've been waiting on my new engine so I've spent a ton of money getting ready to be ready. All i can think about is being back on the trail, literally lol
Thanks for the refresher Michael, think I will share this one. Any music at 2 am is enough to make me not want to travel with the same persons again. I need my beauty rest.
Question: what do you do when you come up behind another vehicle either a 4x4 or an ATV--and they are going very slow? Do you pass them? If so how? TIA
What’s trail etiquette on passing someone or politely letting them know you want to pass?? I have great suspension and often come up on guys going 20 mph slower than me and never know what to do...
Oh I get it. Usually being behind SHOULD be enough to make them aware enough to pull over. If it gets extremely painful - I'd think a light tap on the horn would be OK. You do have to be careful though, not knowing the folks in front. Thats just a tough one.
In a convoy, it’s the tail gunner’s responsibility to let the rest of the group know that another rig is entering the convoy from the rear. Lead rig then slows the convoy down while looking for a place to pull the convoy over safely. Once convoy is stopped the tail gunner waves the overtaking rig on by using hand signals to let the overtaking rig know how many rigs. If solo you should be checking your mirrors and looking for people wanting to move faster than yourself. Pull over and let the faster person go by.
Along with this, if you overtake a convoy and they pull over to let you by, but you don’t want to overtake the group, ask if it’s ok to join. Be respectful and they will more than likely not mind.
Mind your lights, avoid setting up camping lighting that isn't necessary. It isn't fun to have someone pull up shining lights right at you or your site or your tent. Once you are settled, keep your lighting to a minimum. It is better for the environment and nature too!
Yielding addendum, Its not always Yield to the vehicle traveling UP unless they are both in a matching levels of safety, its Always have the vehicle with the safest Yield option do the yield, EXE Large Truck hauling a gigantic goose neck trailer on a narrow road will not be able to yield where a 4-wheeler can on the same road, large truck going down small rig coming up the Larger rig should be yielded to, as it is not safe for the large trailer to reverse.
PICK UP AFTER YOURSELF. BE AMAZED HOW MANY PEOPLE DO NOT.
Leave it better than you when you got there.
My team follows military convoy ops. We maintain coms (HAM); lead rig up front, a middle and an tail leader. Rigs are also numbered with a square paper sticky in the window and we do a count off at every pause, so we know we have everyone. We have a designated point guide with reflective vest so the rig being guided knows who to watch, ground guide uses uniform distinct hand signals, because it's not always easy to understand verbal cues with the sound of the engine and other people vocalizing their own input further confusing the driver. We have emergency first aid, food, water and overnight gear and trash bags. Tools, fluids (oil, coolant, power steering, etc). On paper this sounds like a lot, but when your group is tight and in sync these things are on auto-pilot and we are able to focus on what we're out there to do...respect others and have fun.
1. On tight forest roads up here in the pnw, the person closest to a turn out yields. 2. Always wave 👋 3. Pick up your f*****g trash.
Travis George , this and yield to vehicles traveling uphill. I’m right by Rainier and the tourists in their Audi’s definitely don’t get that one.
That bit about the "number in my group" and "fist up for the caboose" was really helpful.
shut off engines and lights for horseback riders. Had a diesel truck in our convoy that spooked a horse one time.
Trail Etiquette is entirely in my eyes common sense. Treat others how you want to be treated. Also when on the trail it is my home and I will always keep it clean. OCD
...If you are the guy arriving into base camp late, like 1 AM. Don't have a full volume conversation after you pull in. "Whew! It was crazy getting up here!" Understand there are a dozen other vehicles and people already there and sleeping. Grab your minimum sleeping gear, settle down and rack out. Say hi to everyone in the morning while you're mooching coffee! :-)
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If going in a convoy, discuss trail manners and expectations with everyone before leaving. Common sense isn't all that common.
It’s been a while since I heard Stay the Night, so I played the official video after watching yours...highly recommend it. Classic 80’s masterpiece.
Great video, we have a dedicated frequency for coms and we make sure we do a quick radio check at our meet point before departure, it ensures we can keep in touch enroute...makes life so much easier.
Great review, don’t forget tred lightly and leave no trace.
YES!
Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints!!
Amen to that!
I yielded just yesterday to a side-by-side on a narrow rocky logging road wide enough for my Sequoia and about a foot on each side. I keep a mental note of where I've driven..so when I had to back up..I knew that there was a spot not too far back that had enough clearance for those riders to pass. Keep it clean! Be kind always.
Awesome advice, last night on a trail with my truck i stopped moved right half off for two sidebysides to get by, and after awhile they caught up again on the trail i stopped to let them by.kind of proud of myself for doing this unknown rule, now i know,lol
Well since you asked… When traversing obstacles make sure you wait for the next person only after you have gone far enough for them to clear the obstacle so they do not have to stop while still on or in it.
and if someone is in an obstacle (like a sandpit), allow them to clear it, before you enter.
I'm a new member and new to over landing so this was perfect.
Thanks for the video @Overland Bound. This is extremely helpful for someone like myself and wife who are new to the off-road world.
My etiquette rule is to take out more than you took in. I am known to stop and pick up garbage on the trail, and in campsites all around. My trasharoo is my favorite accessory
Thanks for this one haha!! There were a few lessons in there for me. Actually the only reason I clicked it was because there is trail etiquette in mountain biking too and I thought I might learn something here. So thank you again 👍🏻.
Love all your videos, but I thought today’s message was a wonderful message. Thank you.
If I see a group that is coming Towards me I like to ask them trail conditions. More than once the trail was closed for whatever reason.
Staying on or as close to the trail as possible is huge. The soil is delicate and houses the foundation of the desert ecosystem. Camp in places that are established if possible.
Mind the crust.
Donuts are for eating.
I'm here to make sure my common sense is on point and to read every comment to learn all l can. I ain't never went out with a group yet, I've been out alone every time without any recovery gear or even a winch. Yup not too smart i know. I've been waiting on my new engine so I've spent a ton of money getting ready to be ready. All i can think about is being back on the trail, literally lol
The principles of Mikey, Family and the extended Family.
So it is said, so it shall be done. Cheers, Mate.
On the east coast when encountering oncoming group's we yield to the larger group. The less rigs you have to squeeze off trail the better.
Your awesome.
I really respect you and what your group does. Love more and don’t just think about what I want.
Great topic. Also, the one takes are doing wonders for your presence on video. Love the content
Thanks for the refresher Michael, think I will share this one. Any music at 2 am is enough to make me not want to travel with the same persons again. I need my beauty rest.
Thanks Michael, great refresher video.
Thanks for the refresher! Well done.
Another great video Sir. Very informative
All are great points. Thx
Thanks for creating this video! Will definitely send this video link out to some of my trail friends...
Great information.
TREAD LIGHTLY. Pack it in. Pack it out!
Spot on !
Thanks! Learned a couple of new things!!
Excellent video
Fantastic video brother.....
Excellent. Common sense is not that common.
Haha
Great stuff Mike
Great message
Total Common Sense. Thanks for sharing.
This Video should be mandatory for everyone to watch, that are using trails.
Question: what do you do when you come up behind another vehicle either a 4x4 or an ATV--and they are going very slow? Do you pass them? If so how? TIA
Great video! Did you do a recovery essentials yet?
Not yet!
I hope it’s soon 😄
Great video
Awesome 👏 video 🍻🍻🍻
What’s trail etiquette on passing someone or politely letting them know you want to pass?? I have great suspension and often come up on guys going 20 mph slower than me and never know what to do...
I don’t ask this in a rude way, but I spent thousands on my suspension so I could go fast lol
Oh I get it. Usually being behind SHOULD be enough to make them aware enough to pull over. If it gets extremely painful - I'd think a light tap on the horn would be OK. You do have to be careful though, not knowing the folks in front. Thats just a tough one.
In a convoy, it’s the tail gunner’s responsibility to let the rest of the group know that another rig is entering the convoy from the rear. Lead rig then slows the convoy down while looking for a place to pull the convoy over safely. Once convoy is stopped the tail gunner waves the overtaking rig on by using hand signals to let the overtaking rig know how many rigs. If solo you should be checking your mirrors and looking for people wanting to move faster than yourself. Pull over and let the faster person go by.
Along with this, if you overtake a convoy and they pull over to let you by, but you don’t want to overtake the group, ask if it’s ok to join. Be respectful and they will more than likely not mind.
Hey Michael, if you wanna blast Chicago at 11pm, you won't get any complaints from me, haha! Hope all is well and thanks for the vids!
😂😂😂
Awesome!
Leave it better than you found it.
Thats why i travel alone
What the rule when meeting an oncoming vehicle on a level track too narrow for both the pass?
Staring contest...
I just make it a habit to be the first to yield. If they beat me to it, fine, but it's just the nice thing to do.
I'm guessing the audio is lav mic mixed with Cam mic, is it ?
Just lav, no cam
Be kind...REWIND! 🥴😁
Mind your lights, avoid setting up camping lighting that isn't necessary. It isn't fun to have someone pull up shining lights right at you or your site or your tent. Once you are settled, keep your lighting to a minimum. It is better for the environment and nature too!
Reminded me of convoy operations in the Army 😂
Can someone forward these tips to the SxS community? It's getting ugly out there!
I have seen them trying to force hikers out of their way......
Yielding addendum, Its not always Yield to the vehicle traveling UP unless they are both in a matching levels of safety, its Always have the vehicle with the safest Yield option do the yield, EXE Large Truck hauling a gigantic goose neck trailer on a narrow road will not be able to yield where a 4-wheeler can on the same road, large truck going down small rig coming up the Larger rig should be yielded to, as it is not safe for the large trailer to reverse.
It shouldn't have to be said but PACK OUT YOUR TRASH & EMPTY BEER CANS!!!
Your intro is a bit loud compared to your speech. Background level is great tho!
First
I would have guessed that you liked polka 🤣