00:00 Best performance luxury sedan 01:17 Mercedes S63 AMG 24:33 BMW 7 Series 760i 1:24:06 Audi S8 2:02:08 Audi RS7 2:18:51 Porsche Panamera Turbo 2:47:54 EQS AMG 3:11:23 BMW i7 M70 3:39:51 Which performance sedan to pick? #mercedes #bmw
I wanted to say bmw but their designs lately are very bad . Thomas when you say animal free you mean leatherette right . Because I think bmw took that too seriously with the new x3 and said here take plastic for sustainability and butchered the interior with scratchy plastic I have no problem having soft leatherette as long as it feels soft and nice but plastic in luxury cars is a crime
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: th-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/w-d-xo.html
@@autogefuehl but this is the thing luxury car makers cannot use this an excuse and charge the insane double the price of an regular car and take away all soft touch materials and aluminum buttons and handles and replace with plastic. What ever bmw is the worst culprit of all with terrible design and tons of love for plastic
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BMW, I would not draw attention to that front grill by illuminating it. Mercwdws, the MBUX is too complicated. Bring back buttons with haptic feedback for steering wheel, seat adjustment and temperature.
I bought the 760e thinking it would be better than it’s competitors, it’s only 2 months old . I’m unsure if you know this but there’s a major recall on the car which involves taking out the dashboard and putting it back in. Please be aware before you buy one and make sure the correction is been done from factory as there’s no way the technicians can do the job as was built from factory.
@@autogefuehl at the moment I’m trying to reject the vehicle or they give me a new one where it doesn’t need the dash taking out. Let’s see what they say. Otherwise the car is really nice to drive.
These episodes are really appreciated as some kind of Wikipedia for certain car segments! If you watch it full time over the day or split or just check a certain model is totally up to you. Some also use it as a full-day-car experience in the background instead of music for example
Audi’s s8 and rs7 are too expensive. The eqs amg and the s class amg are more of a limo, you sit in the rear. And it’s pretty good for the price, lil bit cheaper than audi. The 7 series is more of a family sedan and the panamera for Dailey driving
@@Johnny91832 s8 is over 200k. S63 is only 195k. I test drove a s63 a month ago trying to replace my 2022 m5 comp matte black. The model I tested had almost every option other than exclusive rear cabin
It’s actually a compilation of many comparable car reviews that were done before, not a single car review. This way, you don’t need to shuffle through different links to watch all relevant reviews of comparable cars. Personally, I find it very useful when I was shopping for cars in the same category.
00:00 Best performance luxury sedan
01:17 Mercedes S63 AMG
24:33 BMW 7 Series 760i
1:24:06 Audi S8
2:02:08 Audi RS7
2:18:51 Porsche Panamera Turbo
2:47:54 EQS AMG
3:11:23 BMW i7 M70
3:39:51 Which performance sedan to pick?
#mercedes #bmw
I wanted to say bmw but their designs lately are very bad . Thomas when you say animal free you mean leatherette right . Because I think bmw took that too seriously with the new x3 and said here take plastic for sustainability and butchered the interior with scratchy plastic I have no problem having soft leatherette as long as it feels soft and nice but plastic in luxury cars is a crime
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest:
www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars.
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary:
th-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/w-d-xo.html
@@autogefuehl but this is the thing luxury car makers cannot use this an excuse and charge the insane double the price of an regular car and take away all soft touch materials and aluminum buttons and handles and replace with plastic. What ever bmw is the worst culprit of all with terrible design and tons of love for plastic
With the hard plastic parts i agree to ur assessment
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This is our in-depth review comparison of the best performance luxury sedan, Mercedes S63 AMG vs BMW 7 Series 760i vs Audi S8 vs Audi RS7 vs Porsche Panamera Turbo vs EQS AMG vs BMW i7 M70. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
panamera
I like the BMW a lot, S8 sounds awesome with that v8 biturbo
Thomas, you keep crossing your arms when steering. This is a bad habit. Feed the wheel instead.
Audi RS7 💪
Good job Thomas 👍
cheers m8 !
RS7 is the coolest. But they are all great cars.
0:52 EQS sound almost made me cringe 😢
BMW, I would not draw attention to that front grill by illuminating it.
Mercwdws, the MBUX is too complicated. Bring back buttons with haptic feedback for steering wheel, seat adjustment and temperature.
I bought the 760e thinking it would be better than it’s competitors, it’s only 2 months old . I’m unsure if you know this but there’s a major recall on the car which involves taking out the dashboard and putting it back in. Please be aware before you buy one and make sure the correction is been done from factory as there’s no way the technicians can do the job as was built from factory.
Thanks for the report! Heard about that, so whats the status there? You getting a new dashboard ?
@@autogefuehl at the moment I’m trying to reject the vehicle or they give me a new one where it doesn’t need the dash taking out. Let’s see what they say. Otherwise the car is really nice to drive.
Because they cannot fit the dash? Or it takes too long?
S8 no doubt.
S8 no way, years old Dieselgate VW corporate shared platform.
Over 100k for a car with touch-only I couldn't accept in a 30k car? Certainly not
@@cricho15 well none of the cars from the video cost less than 100k €.
@@unowen-nh9ov the Audi S8 has a V8 petrol engine.
I really wonder what is the point of making this video 3 hours and 43 minutes and who is going to watch it without skipping any moment? 😒😒
These episodes are really appreciated as some kind of Wikipedia for certain car segments! If you watch it full time over the day or split or just check a certain model is totally up to you. Some also use it as a full-day-car experience in the background instead of music for example
@@autogefuehl I watched it all the way through!
🙌🙌🙌
Audi’s s8 and rs7 are too expensive. The eqs amg and the s class amg are more of a limo, you sit in the rear. And it’s pretty good for the price, lil bit cheaper than audi. The 7 series is more of a family sedan and the panamera for Dailey driving
Huh? The s63 is like 195k. The s8 is around 120 and rs7 130k
Too expensive? The S63 costs upwards of 200k plus?? Completely new goes up to 300k. The S8 is a bargain.
@@derekwalsh1935 no rs7
Is 200k, s8 also
@@Johnny91832 s8 is over 200k. S63 is only 195k. I test drove a s63 a month ago trying to replace my 2022 m5 comp matte black. The model I tested had almost every option other than exclusive rear cabin
@@sugarhog1938 I don’t know where you live but I bought and still own a ‘22 S8 for 138k USD
Those who are going to watch 3 hours and 43 minutes of a car review should go to a doctor for a check-up.
You must be new here my friend! Welcome to the 4k, full screen and full length. Lets go.
try it out you ll like it - set it on your TV and enjoy
It’s actually a compilation of many comparable car reviews that were done before, not a single car review. This way, you don’t need to shuffle through different links to watch all relevant reviews of comparable cars. Personally, I find it very useful when I was shopping for cars in the same category.
Golf R.
que lux ............
Plaid, all day
lul