Remains the best camera BMD has created in the pocket series and overall imo because how it changed the market. Overall, the G2 is the best camera they've ever made imo, but the p4k you just can't beat for price, quality, etc. Such a great camera
Hey Thomas. Mark Thomas here. THIS is th camera I WANT....like passionate about for some reason. Some say, I'll spend a lot of accessory money to make it function like some Sony, Lumix with more functionality IN the camera. I don't know... These images look more beautiful to me than other brands.
I own two 4K's and love them. Had them for a little under a year. I bought them new and considered upgrading eventually to the 6K G2 but I think I may just stay with these a bit longer because they are great and if it isn't broke, don't fix it.
This camera has been an absolute MVP for my remote editing work and TH-cam Videos for the last three years. Love the iq, colors and reliability of this camera. Raw is amazing, but I have been shooting all my TH-cam work in prores for a faster turnaround.
Interested to see what the next iteration of the Pocket lineup will be. They've gotten quite huge and I'm not sure the DSLR-like form factor really works for everyone given how they always get super rigged up in the end. Good luck with your channel, looking great so far!
Me too, there’s definitely a desire for them to make a cube style like the z cams and Komodo, which i totally think they should, which to be fair wouldn’t be “pocket” styled. Thanks for the encouragement Phillip!
I just bought a used one for $1400 Canadian with a lens, cage and monitor! I have to say, I really love the colours that I'm getting out of it! For a camera of it's age, it's really impressive and think I prefer the image over the A7SIII or FX3, as I think the highlight roll-off looks more natural and filmic. Blackmagic really understands what goes into making a fantastic image. I just have to rig up a V-mount battery, as the stock battery life is rubbish. 😄
Hey I’m thinking about making the switch to the bmp4k, coming from a full frame sony a7s should I care if it’s a micro 4/3rds sensor?? Either way the Sony a7s doesn’t shoot in 4k
i havent really touched this thing since i picked up my fx3 about 2 years ago. just started playing around with it again and was blown away. it looks so good with so much less tweaking than my slog footage. made me go back and look at some of the stuff i shot with it and im so impressed. i picked up a lumix 12-35 since i sold all my ef glass when i switched to sony. the ois in that lens coupled with the ois in camera makes it super usable handheld. gonna start just carrying it around and taking little snippets of my day. i had initially intended on using it as a b-cam with my fx3 but havent really ever needed a second camera since switching.
True. There are certain things and features that you need to shoot at a competitive level . But beyond that it's really upto the skill. And pocket 4k provides all those features. I recently came across a video that was shot using p4k and one vintage lens and it straight up looked like a movie. It was called Arunachal wonderland or something about a state in my country. And while watching it I suddenly realised that this camera costs less than the latest iPhone and is capable of results that a lot of TH-camrs can't achieve who hop on to a new 'cinema camera' every six months. And in a couple of days your video pops up! Funny thing is, a lot of young filmmakers buy the iPhone or ipads citing budgetary reasons which actually probably is an excuse to avoid the learning curve coz I checked and realised the top iPhone costs more than a pocket 4K + vmount battery+ ssd+ a couple of vintage lenses 😂. You are absolutely right about it forcing you to get better. It really challenges you. Great assessment
Watching this video a day after my bmpcc 4k arrived. I'm so grateful that you put emphasis into the learning curve with this machine. I'm so happy to dive in. Just subscribed BTW (watched the rig video). Thanks bro 👍🏾
This is an odd observation, but I really enjoyed the sustained comments you made on learning curve (I.e. no/few jump cuts to trim dialogue) I actually found your thoughts really well, and refreshing to hear without being distilled in a TH-cam trend of in-out jump cuts.
I absolutely agree. I just upgraded to a UMP G2 and I have to tell you, I miss my pocket... especially shooting at night (I'm still adapting to the UMP G2 and everyday it gets better) but the Pocket 4K is a beast. With the right adapter very few cameras can beat it... and all of them are way more expensive.
@@brendana6760 Absolutely. Metabones is the way to go. You will lose some tiny bit of sharpness but you can make every single lens you put in your rig 1 1/3 stops faster.
@@MartinYernazian Yeah I wondered about that steep $700 pricetag on the metabones, but if it retains the color quality and those extra stops of light it is intriguing. Which lenses did you like using with it?
@@brendana6760 you don't need to spend 700 dollars. I use MPB and they used ones in great shape. I would choose the BMP4K Metabones adapter. It is sharper. Lenses? I used so many. I put a Cooke 20-100 on that camera and of course, it kicked some serious ass. My recommendation? Save. Buy great lenses and use those. There ar plenty of photo lenses that are close to cinema lenses. Not in the way they work but in the result. Yeah, save money and spend your money properly and wisely. It really depends what you want to do.
This câmera it's really amazing. I don't like using it with speedbooster, but with micro four thirds lens it's wasome. The 4k pro res files plays like a buther in premiere. The post production workflow its really good and the results most times are great after adapt using it
so ive never actually used MFT lenses before, I have some EF but mostly sony lenses at the moment. but yeah ive heard a lot of people love the MFT mount lenses
MFT lenses are awesome. I have the full set panny f2.8 zooms and another set of canon fd primes vintage lenses. These are so versatile and won't cost you an arm or leg or your kidney. The image quality is just awesome. I'm never a fan of super shallow dof. A super 16 like dof is what i love.
I have the 4K and I got the 6K G2 recently. I've been using a 24-105 f4.0 Canon L paired with a Viltrox M2 and I thought that my lens is the culprit for the soft and yellow tint that it creates over the image. When I got my 6K G2 and used the 24-105 lens over it, mannnnnnn. What an eye opener. I understand now why you got to really have a metabones adapter for the 4K. The Viltrox M2 degrades the image coming through the lens by a significant amount. I still love the 4K for the soft images it creates, I have the meike 25mm that I still use for the 4K. I wouldn't use the 4K for night scenes tho.
24-105+viltrox vs native mft meike 25mm do you found the same quality problem like soft and yellow tint? Just try to understand the problem is the P4K quality, SB (do you compared viltrox vs metabones?), or the significantly better quality of P6K-G2 😇
@@ardiyanto.t The problem is with the VIltrox Mii adapter and not with the BMPCC 4K camera. The BMPCC 4K is a good camera in itself. If you plan to use EF lenses with it, Metabones is the way to go. When I used my 24-105 in my 6k G2, the softness and yellow tint disappeared. Which lead me to the realization that the Viltrox is the culprit.
@@ardiyanto.tviltrox is dogshit, metabones speedboosters arent very good either, so you either get good native lenses (like meikes), or metabones adapters without glass.
thx I will get mine in a few days! even tho the situation here in Iran is the worst in my whole life. gears are the ,ost expensive in the world but Ill do it
man thats tough, hopefully things improve for you soon! the key is to never spend more than you have, and to not buy more than you need. I sure struggle with buying too much gear that i dont need and usually end up regretting it
@@thomasjmcclure thx mate but I do need p4k quality for filmmaking. Already have a7iii but to me it's too sharp and digitalized. But a cine camera like bmpcc gives me the result Im looking for
I had a pocket 4k for years, Just sold it. The image was amazing! Arguably better than sony a7s3 in certain conditions.... The colors and highlight roll off were sublime. However, i absolutely hated using the camera. I hated using it on paid shoots all day. Hated traveling with it. Hated always having to have it rigged up. I love photos and cinematography as an art so i initially thought i would be ok with all the downsides. I was wrong. At the end of the day the best camera is the one you have with you and you enjoy using. And i just never wanted to take this camera with me. I replaced it with a sony a7c, which is a HUGE downgrade image wise..... but now i have a convenient camera that i love to take with me in literally any scenario. And because of that i've already captured more (artistically) with the a7c than i ever did with the pocket 4k.... just my 2 cents....
Blackmagic Cinema are MOVIE camers, not DSLRs that shoot video. The other thing I like, besides the CINEMA asoect, is the Blackmagis OS. Once you learn the OS, you can operate ANY Blackmagic camera that uses that OS. I got my BMPCC4K in May of 2019 and I still love it. Even if I find myself getting the PCC6K Pro or BMD releases a PRO version of their new Cinema--6, I will STILL keep my 4K regardless. It, and its MFT cine DS lenses have earned their place in my gear inventory.
I'm totally new to making movies but I bought this setup for 1125 euro/1232 USD: -Blackmagic 4k Pocket Cinema Camera -SIGMA 18-35MM F/1.8 DC HSM ART Canon Lens -Metabones EF-MFT Mount T Speed Booster XL 0.64x -Smallrig full case -SSD smallrig mount Pretty good deal to start with right?
@@akenaken Not sure where you are from, in my country there is a good second hand website I could buy them from. Important note: the 0.64 x speedbooster gives vignette when combined with the Sigma 18-35 lens, so you need the ultra 0.71 booster for that lens.
If you use a video color chart like the calbright, it's even better you have a realy good starting point for color grading the result is realy more vibrant, of course you can desaturated and put a teal and orange grading on the final result, in BRAW it realy give you all the dynamic range to work with it , very usefull camera for small project like music video or even documentary and commercial , it's also usefull for b stock footage. Making an entire movie with it is risky, because of some downside this thing wont resist hard dust and bad weather conditions, have a limited batterie life , you need to put more accesories to have that film configuration, on low profile like a dslr camera this thing works realy fine.
It's funny I've come across this. I already have a full bmpcc6k rigged out etc, but I came across and ebay listing for a bmpcc4k and had to buy it. It came with a smallrig cage(with t5 mount), a feelworld 4k monitor, a voiglander 17.5mm f0.95 lens, a few batteries, and even a sealed davinci resolve licence still in the box. The guy had used it twice and had it just sitting there. All of that new is close to £3K and I got it for £1250. I didn't even have to pay delivery as he just so happened to live 2 stops away from me on the tube. This is definitely a sleeper that people should not ignore even though it's not a new camera. As they say, Old but Gold.
@@jacksonpetit1983 It is far more efficient to film with it in terms of data, and to be honest, in some instances I really like the look of the 4K more - that might be due to pairing it with a speedbooster makes it a lot closer to a full frame look.
why not buy the 6K pro? if one is saving money.. but I do have three 4/3 micro lenses from my GH3 should I sell all the lenses and gh3 and keep saving up money for a 6 K pro and a lens for that or should I jus sell the gh3 house and keep the lenses and get a 4 K pocket Black Magic camera now right away? or how to think if one want to make short documentaries and short films to make money from them, and maybe start with yourutube or other platforms like Fiverr ...?
Interesting your point « learning curve » (even more as beginner). For me the absolute point is it’s cinema look render (quality as « texture » etc) ; i’ve seen many comparaisaon with part of all dslr fromm 800 to even 2000€, no one can get such a cinema« renderging »
I intend to buy one, but i hesitate waiting bit more speculating a 4k also L-mount will arrive in several lonths (it’d be logicall…). If someone has heard something about this i’l taker..
I find it kind of funny that the intro clip where the item is focused on, then auto focuses to the face is totally impractical for the p4k (as someone who owns one and should have gotten Sony for my needs) 😅
Im thinking to switch to black magic design cameras cause of the BRAW. I have only 1 thing that holds me back. Is that the non flipping monitor annoying you? This the thing for my kind of work that give me the gap of 1000$ with the bmpcc6k. I want to avoid monitors . I want run and gun things with not so much weight. Thank you
I like your video, I have a7iii that I enjoy. I’ve used it for over a year. I just got a BMPCC4K but was going to return it and get the 6k. Would recommend a 6k over the 4k?
Very cool! Depends on your needs man, depends on what lenses you already have and whether the mft or ef mount would work better for you. And mainly if your budget allows for the price difference. I am a big fan of the 6k if you can justify it, but the 4K is a very capable camera
Depends on the price you can get it for. If you find a good used deal on it and it’s in good condition, it’s definitely a worth investment. But not at full retail price
You have to turn it the metabones lens to find that sweet spot, make sure to not lose the screws though. There's videos on that. It does it with the Viltrox as well. Once you find that sweet spot you tighten the speedbooster glass again. That should fix your issue if I'm correct.
@@JS-rh6cs Darn it, sorry to hear that. That's quite disconcerting for sure. I hope a solution comes up for this problem. Besides of course buying another set of lenses, or one more thing that you have to pay for, etc, etc....
The fact that you’re comparing a cinema camera to a digital photography camera is what every body does, the problem with that comparison is that the Blackmagic P4k is a cinema camera, and solely meant for that purpose. An Arri Alexa or any Arri cameras are all manual and don’t have any of the functions these new cameras do, and they are the cinematic standard. In fact, 95% of movies you watch today are shot on an Arri @1080p and upscale. Nor Sony or any other photography hybrid shots in raw because for the most part they can’t handle that much information. Where the BMPCC 4K can shot for hours at end, the Sony A7 series like any other photography camera, the sensor over heats and you have a max record time of 20 to 28 minutes. If you would have compared a BMPCC4k against a Red Komodo or Canon C70 C200 C700 or the like that would have been great. The Blackmagic is a dedicated cinema camera, and it functions like one. Stick to comparing digital photography cameras is you don’t know the difference. Oh yeah, Blackmagic 4K is well worth it in 2022 and 2023. If Arri is still making movies at 1080p and is the standard, Blackmagic 4K or 6 K is a great tool to use and keeps you in standard with most cinema cameras like Panasonic Varicam, kifinity, canon, red, and the like. Do your research and stop listening to these stupid video that can’t tell the difference in cameras.
Thanks for you’re input, you’re totally right that the bmpcc line are cinema cameras, not a hybrid, and cinema cameras are designed for a different purpose. However this video is not a comparison video, it is detailing reasons to purchase a cinema camera (the P4K in particular in this video) over a hybrid camera, including the reasons you have listed above. In the section of the video you are referring to I am only explaining my experience of moving from a Sony hybrid camera, to a cinema camera, and how the differences between the two was benificial to growing my skills. So yeah you are correct that they are different for good reasons, this is not a comparison video.
Remains the best camera BMD has created in the pocket series and overall imo because how it changed the market. Overall, the G2 is the best camera they've ever made imo, but the p4k you just can't beat for price, quality, etc. Such a great camera
Agreed!
Loved using that camera, and have seen so much great work with it too! $700 is a steal for what it can do!
For sure man! So fun to use as well
Anyone selling one for this price? Im Looking to buy one
@@RiquezesYou still need one?
@@SamualWilliamsyes I need one
@@akenaken You can have mine? I'm selling it. What all do you need with it? I have a ton of stuff for it because I have my rig I'm getting rid of.
Hey Thomas. Mark Thomas here. THIS is th camera I WANT....like passionate about for some reason. Some say, I'll spend a lot of accessory money to make it function like some Sony, Lumix with more functionality IN the camera. I don't know... These images look more beautiful to me than other brands.
I own two 4K's and love them. Had them for a little under a year. I bought them new and considered upgrading eventually to the 6K G2 but I think I may just stay with these a bit longer because they are great and if it isn't broke, don't fix it.
This camera has been an absolute MVP for my remote editing work and TH-cam Videos for the last three years. Love the iq, colors and reliability of this camera. Raw is amazing, but I have been shooting all my TH-cam work in prores for a faster turnaround.
Interested to see what the next iteration of the Pocket lineup will be. They've gotten quite huge and I'm not sure the DSLR-like form factor really works for everyone given how they always get super rigged up in the end.
Good luck with your channel, looking great so far!
Me too, there’s definitely a desire for them to make a cube style like the z cams and Komodo, which i totally think they should, which to be fair wouldn’t be “pocket” styled. Thanks for the encouragement Phillip!
I’m saving up, not long to go! Glad to see that it’s still the best option for me.
I just bought a used one for $1400 Canadian with a lens, cage and monitor! I have to say, I really love the colours that I'm getting out of it! For a camera of it's age, it's really impressive and think I prefer the image over the A7SIII or FX3, as I think the highlight roll-off looks more natural and filmic. Blackmagic really understands what goes into making a fantastic image.
I just have to rig up a V-mount battery, as the stock battery life is rubbish. 😄
Hey I’m thinking about making the switch to the bmp4k, coming from a full frame sony a7s should I care if it’s a micro 4/3rds sensor?? Either way the Sony a7s doesn’t shoot in 4k
i havent really touched this thing since i picked up my fx3 about 2 years ago. just started playing around with it again and was blown away. it looks so good with so much less tweaking than my slog footage. made me go back and look at some of the stuff i shot with it and im so impressed. i picked up a lumix 12-35 since i sold all my ef glass when i switched to sony. the ois in that lens coupled with the ois in camera makes it super usable handheld. gonna start just carrying it around and taking little snippets of my day. i had initially intended on using it as a b-cam with my fx3 but havent really ever needed a second camera since switching.
True. There are certain things and features that you need to shoot at a competitive level . But beyond that it's really upto the skill. And pocket 4k provides all those features. I recently came across a video that was shot using p4k and one vintage lens and it straight up looked like a movie. It was called Arunachal wonderland or something about a state in my country. And while watching it I suddenly realised that this camera costs less than the latest iPhone and is capable of results that a lot of TH-camrs can't achieve who hop on to a new 'cinema camera' every six months. And in a couple of days your video pops up! Funny thing is, a lot of young filmmakers buy the iPhone or ipads citing budgetary reasons which actually probably is an excuse to avoid the learning curve coz I checked and realised the top iPhone costs more than a pocket 4K + vmount battery+ ssd+ a couple of vintage lenses 😂. You are absolutely right about it forcing you to get better. It really challenges you. Great assessment
Do you happen to know the name of the vintage lens used in that video?
man, you make the prettiest rigs on TH-cam, you do it nicely 🤩
Watching this video a day after my bmpcc 4k arrived. I'm so grateful that you put emphasis into the learning curve with this machine. I'm so happy to dive in. Just subscribed BTW (watched the rig video). Thanks bro 👍🏾
This is an odd observation, but I really enjoyed the sustained comments you made on learning curve (I.e. no/few jump cuts to trim dialogue) I actually found your thoughts really well, and refreshing to hear without being distilled in a TH-cam trend of in-out jump cuts.
I absolutely agree. I just upgraded to a UMP G2 and I have to tell you, I miss my pocket... especially shooting at night (I'm still adapting to the UMP G2 and everyday it gets better) but the Pocket 4K is a beast. With the right adapter very few cameras can beat it... and all of them are way more expensive.
Were you using a speedbooster on your rig?
@@brendana6760 Absolutely. Metabones is the way to go. You will lose some tiny bit of sharpness but you can make every single lens you put in your rig 1 1/3 stops faster.
@@MartinYernazian Yeah I wondered about that steep $700 pricetag on the metabones, but if it retains the color quality and those extra stops of light it is intriguing. Which lenses did you like using with it?
@@brendana6760 you don't need to spend 700 dollars. I use MPB and they used ones in great shape. I would choose the BMP4K Metabones adapter. It is sharper. Lenses? I used so many. I put a Cooke 20-100 on that camera and of course, it kicked some serious ass. My recommendation? Save. Buy great lenses and use those. There ar plenty of photo lenses that are close to cinema lenses. Not in the way they work but in the result. Yeah, save money and spend your money properly and wisely. It really depends what you want to do.
Such a fun camera to use. Pretty cheap and holy smokes does it look great!
One of the few (or less) videos where is explained simply the right diference of BMPCC and the others...the way to work.
Very excellent explanation. Yes, I agree with you. This is one of the most powerful cameras. I love it very much, but I sold it and bought the FX3
This câmera it's really amazing. I don't like using it with speedbooster, but with micro four thirds lens it's wasome. The 4k pro res files plays like a buther in premiere. The post production workflow its really good and the results most times are great after adapt using it
so ive never actually used MFT lenses before, I have some EF but mostly sony lenses at the moment. but yeah ive heard a lot of people love the MFT mount lenses
MFT lenses are awesome. I have the full set panny f2.8 zooms and another set of canon fd primes vintage lenses. These are so versatile and won't cost you an arm or leg or your kidney. The image quality is just awesome. I'm never a fan of super shallow dof. A super 16 like dof is what i love.
I have the 4K and I got the 6K G2 recently. I've been using a 24-105 f4.0 Canon L paired with a Viltrox M2 and I thought that my lens is the culprit for the soft and yellow tint that it creates over the image. When I got my 6K G2 and used the 24-105 lens over it, mannnnnnn. What an eye opener. I understand now why you got to really have a metabones adapter for the 4K. The Viltrox M2 degrades the image coming through the lens by a significant amount. I still love the 4K for the soft images it creates, I have the meike 25mm that I still use for the 4K. I wouldn't use the 4K for night scenes tho.
Meike 25mm 💪😎
24-105+viltrox vs native mft meike 25mm do you found the same quality problem like soft and yellow tint? Just try to understand the problem is the P4K quality, SB (do you compared viltrox vs metabones?), or the significantly better quality of P6K-G2 😇
@@ardiyanto.t The problem is with the VIltrox Mii adapter and not with the BMPCC 4K camera. The BMPCC 4K is a good camera in itself. If you plan to use EF lenses with it, Metabones is the way to go.
When I used my 24-105 in my 6k G2, the softness and yellow tint disappeared. Which lead me to the realization that the Viltrox is the culprit.
@@RDRvideoprod Thank you.. 👍💪
@@ardiyanto.tviltrox is dogshit, metabones speedboosters arent very good either, so you either get good native lenses (like meikes), or metabones adapters without glass.
thx I will get mine in a few days! even tho the situation here in Iran is the worst in my whole life. gears are the ,ost expensive in the world but Ill do it
man thats tough, hopefully things improve for you soon! the key is to never spend more than you have, and to not buy more than you need. I sure struggle with buying too much gear that i dont need and usually end up regretting it
@@thomasjmcclure thx mate but I do need p4k quality for filmmaking. Already have a7iii but to me it's too sharp and digitalized. But a cine camera like bmpcc gives me the result Im looking for
great video man! it answered my questions and you´re a good guy to listen to!
Thanks man!
I had a pocket 4k for years, Just sold it. The image was amazing! Arguably better than sony a7s3 in certain conditions.... The colors and highlight roll off were sublime.
However, i absolutely hated using the camera. I hated using it on paid shoots all day. Hated traveling with it. Hated always having to have it rigged up.
I love photos and cinematography as an art so i initially thought i would be ok with all the downsides. I was wrong.
At the end of the day the best camera is the one you have with you and you enjoy using. And i just never wanted to take this camera with me.
I replaced it with a sony a7c, which is a HUGE downgrade image wise..... but now i have a convenient camera that i love to take with me in literally any scenario. And because of that i've already captured more (artistically) with the a7c than i ever did with the pocket 4k....
just my 2 cents....
no camara beat that 4k . for the money and the footage . that camera is a beast
just ordered it :D cant wait! I`ve just using my phone til now.
Blackmagic Cinema are MOVIE camers, not DSLRs that shoot video. The other thing I like, besides the CINEMA asoect, is the Blackmagis OS. Once you learn the OS, you can operate ANY Blackmagic camera that uses that OS. I got my BMPCC4K in May of 2019 and I still love it. Even if I find myself getting the PCC6K Pro or BMD releases a PRO version of their new Cinema--6, I will STILL keep my 4K regardless. It, and its MFT cine DS lenses have earned their place in my gear inventory.
I'm totally new to making movies but I bought this setup for 1125 euro/1232 USD:
-Blackmagic 4k Pocket Cinema Camera
-SIGMA 18-35MM F/1.8 DC HSM ART Canon Lens
-Metabones EF-MFT Mount T Speed Booster XL 0.64x
-Smallrig full case
-SSD smallrig mount
Pretty good deal to start with right?
Perfect for the price
I need to get this set up brother, any links you can direct me to?
@@akenaken Not sure where you are from, in my country there is a good second hand website I could buy them from. Important note: the 0.64 x speedbooster gives vignette when combined with the Sigma 18-35 lens, so you need the ultra 0.71 booster for that lens.
Hey Loving your content... as a Blackmagic user myself all the way from Zimbabwe (just subscribed too :)
Love this video. Keep up the GREAT work!
Thanks!
If you use a video color chart like the calbright, it's even better you have a realy good starting point for color grading the result is realy more vibrant, of course you can desaturated and put a teal and orange grading on the final result, in BRAW it realy give you all the dynamic range to work with it , very usefull camera for small project like music video or even documentary and commercial , it's also usefull for b stock footage. Making an entire movie with it is risky, because of some downside this thing wont resist hard dust and bad weather conditions, have a limited batterie life , you need to put more accesories to have that film configuration, on low profile like a dslr camera this thing works realy fine.
Just because of you i bought it today
Got mine for $800. Best cinema camera I’ve used.
good for filming a full length movie? i currently use gh4
It's funny I've come across this.
I already have a full bmpcc6k rigged out etc, but I came across and ebay listing for a bmpcc4k and had to buy it.
It came with a smallrig cage(with t5 mount), a feelworld 4k monitor, a voiglander 17.5mm f0.95 lens, a few batteries, and even a sealed davinci resolve licence still in the box. The guy had used it twice and had it just sitting there. All of that new is close to £3K and I got it for £1250. I didn't even have to pay delivery as he just so happened to live 2 stops away from me on the tube.
This is definitely a sleeper that people should not ignore even though it's not a new camera. As they say, Old but Gold.
How does it compare to the 6K?
@@jacksonpetit1983 It is far more efficient to film with it in terms of data, and to be honest, in some instances I really like the look of the 4K more - that might be due to pairing it with a speedbooster makes it a lot closer to a full frame look.
@@alanlavery Good to know. Thanks for the reply and for the info. Appreciate it!
why not buy the 6K pro? if one is saving money.. but I do have three 4/3 micro lenses from my GH3 should I sell all the lenses and gh3 and keep saving up money for a 6 K pro and a lens for that or should I jus sell the gh3 house and keep the lenses and get a 4 K pocket Black Magic camera now right away? or how to think if one want to make short documentaries and short films to make money from them, and maybe start with yourutube or other platforms like Fiverr ...?
Interesting your point « learning curve » (even more as beginner).
For me the absolute point is it’s cinema look render (quality as « texture » etc) ; i’ve seen many comparaisaon with part of all dslr fromm 800 to even 2000€, no one can get such a cinema« renderging »
I totally agree with you. BUT battery life... btw I love my bmpcc6k!
Love this!
Thanks!
Awesome bro! Just bought one. Bloody perfect piece of gear. Better than the sony I migrated from
I’m a big fan, much more than i expected.
Great job homie! I still use my 4k as a main cam and i love it.
I have a feeling this channel is going to do very well in this space, Keep it up👍
Thank you! I’m excited to keep working on it, the encouragement is much appreciated
I intend to buy one, but i hesitate waiting bit more speculating a 4k also L-mount will arrive in several lonths (it’d be logicall…). If someone has heard something about this i’l taker..
I find it kind of funny that the intro clip where the item is focused on, then auto focuses to the face is totally impractical for the p4k (as someone who owns one and should have gotten Sony for my needs) 😅
That rig looks very stable, can you show us?
Yeah man! Hoping to have that up some time tomorrow
Im thinking to switch to black magic design cameras cause of the BRAW. I have only 1 thing that holds me back. Is that the non flipping monitor annoying you? This the thing for my kind of work that give me the gap of 1000$ with the bmpcc6k. I want to avoid monitors . I want run and gun things with not so much weight.
Thank you
I think the 6k pro is definitely worth it, better battery, better flipping screen, built in ND’s. And you can find them used for under 2000
I still shoot with a bmpcc 4K.
Great vid 🖤
Thanks!
I need to get this Camera right away, send me some links to get it please
Dang I thought I got a deal buying the camera with 4 batteries, a charger, and bag for $700 but you got a cage!!!!!!
the BMPCC is like wine, the older the better
I like your video, I have a7iii that I enjoy. I’ve used it for over a year. I just got a BMPCC4K but was going to return it and get the 6k. Would recommend a 6k over the 4k?
Very cool! Depends on your needs man, depends on what lenses you already have and whether the mft or ef mount would work better for you. And mainly if your budget allows for the price difference. I am a big fan of the 6k if you can justify it, but the 4K is a very capable camera
Does anybody have any videos or movies shot purely with the p4k
IS THERE A LINK TO FULL RIG
My Favorite BMPCC 4K Cinema Rig
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Should I get it even though it's discontinued?
Depends on the price you can get it for. If you find a good used deal on it and it’s in good condition, it’s definitely a worth investment. But not at full retail price
Lol Just bought this_its 5 in the morning: been watching this since 3: lol man you sold me: money gone: but cont wait to pick this up
годные вещи говорит, подписался! спасибо.
With the metabones I can’t get my canon lenses get infinite focus… :(
You have to turn it the metabones lens to find that sweet spot, make sure to not lose the screws though. There's videos on that. It does it with the Viltrox as well. Once you find that sweet spot you tighten the speedbooster glass again. That should fix your issue if I'm correct.
@@kmal16 sadly with the FD Lenses this doesn't work because i screwed the Metabones lens already to the end point and its still not sharp
@@JS-rh6cs Darn it, sorry to hear that. That's quite disconcerting for sure. I hope a solution comes up for this problem. Besides of course buying another set of lenses, or one more thing that you have to pay for, etc, etc....
The fact that you’re comparing a cinema camera to a digital photography camera is what every body does, the problem with that comparison is that the Blackmagic P4k is a cinema camera, and solely meant for that purpose. An Arri Alexa or any Arri cameras are all manual and don’t have any of the functions these new cameras do, and they are the cinematic standard. In fact, 95% of movies you watch today are shot on an Arri @1080p and upscale. Nor Sony or any other photography hybrid shots in raw because for the most part they can’t handle that much information. Where the BMPCC 4K can shot for hours at end, the Sony A7 series like any other photography camera, the sensor over heats and you have a max record time of 20 to 28 minutes. If you would have compared a BMPCC4k against a Red Komodo or Canon C70 C200 C700 or the like that would have been great. The Blackmagic is a dedicated cinema camera, and it functions like one. Stick to comparing digital photography cameras is you don’t know the difference. Oh yeah, Blackmagic 4K is well worth it in 2022 and 2023. If Arri is still making movies at 1080p and is the standard, Blackmagic 4K or 6 K is a great tool to use and keeps you in standard with most cinema cameras like Panasonic Varicam, kifinity, canon, red, and the like. Do your research and stop listening to these stupid video that can’t tell the difference in cameras.
Thanks for you’re input, you’re totally right that the bmpcc line are cinema cameras, not a hybrid, and cinema cameras are designed for a different purpose. However this video is not a comparison video, it is detailing reasons to purchase a cinema camera (the P4K in particular in this video) over a hybrid camera, including the reasons you have listed above. In the section of the video you are referring to I am only explaining my experience of moving from a Sony hybrid camera, to a cinema camera, and how the differences between the two was benificial to growing my skills. So yeah you are correct that they are different for good reasons, this is not a comparison video.
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720 dollar for yu camera?! but your link leads to a camera for 1300 dollars, more or less the double price of what you present here... hmm..
The link is for purchasing one new, i found one used for $720
I got my bmpcc4k for ＄500
Bargain! Does it all work well?
@@thomasjmcclure No problem!
The Japanese camera market is cheap, so you can usually buy one for about $750!