Who Played it Best - Vinnie Colaiuta Drum Part From Seven Days
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Guys - I know this was from a solo album and not the police. Had a lot of back and forths with the editing on this one, and didn't want to nitpick. But yea I know Sting's solo stuff is different than the police 🤣
Watching Vinnie behind his kit is like watching a painter craft a masterpiece in real time. All of the drum performances in this video were top notch.
The real deal here is the fact that these covers are all a reference. The genius is authentically coming up with these grooves and transitions. If an artist played these tracks to us with no reference drum track.... what we do? That’s where Vinnie rules.
Agree 100%! It's creativity and imagination that counts more than technique. Technique can be learned and copied; Invention cannot. Most drummers go on and on about Vinnie's technique, but i've always been blown away by hearing him produce one brilliant idea after another; whether it be soloing, playing a tune or playing an entire album. This is what makes him and a handful of others, uncopyable. As far as technique, creativity and imagination go, some are blessed to be in possession of all three and Vinnie is certainly one of those who inhabit such rarified air.
Exactly! The level of understanding of groove required to solve this song in the way vinnie did is mind boggeling. And he plays it so clean like the music just naturally flows out of him. Its like this is as natural for him as a straight 4/4.
Vinnie is the everest of benchmarks. Nobody has feel. Verbatum can be copied but the feel impossible. All great drummers that did the covers just amazing...
One of my favorite albums. I remember the first time I heard Seven Days I worked as a signpainter for Disneyland. It was 5:45 am and the sound crew for Fantastic had it playing for sound check over the Rivers of America on that perfectly still morning. I thought my God what is that. I recognized Stings voice, but was not familiar with the album yet. I have yet to have the same musical experience as that day, Wow! Thanks for your comparison video, great job. I encourage more. I'm 65, been playing since 1964 and am probably # 85 on your list. It's a tough one.
Agreed!… if there was only one record I could take on a deserted island it would be Ten Sumners tales. So much greatness on that record!🤦🏻♂️
Second that.
Ten Sumner was all I listened to that spring and summer of '93. No other album captured my attention like that.
At least not since I heard 2112 eight years before.
The vhs back in the day had the actual audio from this live session. Vinnie played some truly outstanding fills, more flashy and arguably more tasteful than the album version. Sadly someone decided to use the audio from the album for later releases.
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@@frankjaegervandlarssen6657 wow man thanks for sharing
You’re welcome ☺️
Also the version on Ten Summoner's Travels vid is well worth checking out for more Vinnie brilliance - it made me appreciate just how good Sting is live as singer-bass player with all that madness going on behind him! th-cam.com/video/YYkDveuILUM/w-d-xo.html
I liked the album version much better, when covering it this was my reference. this is my take:
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This was fun to watch and I had to smile because I was digging it as much as you were. You sold me with this and I'm planning to sign up for the basics.
Enjoyed that very much! Love your critiques and facial expressions 🙂
Love this video and your take on these talented drummers - thank you!
Super vidéo, fantastic covers!! Super
I agree, you made the correct choice of winner, though yes, they were all winners, you included. The winner nailed the nuances, and that is where much of Vinnie's magic sits. You spiced things up nicely. And the young lady approached this with a physical casualness that made her may favourite. Indeed, everyone except her and the final chap seemed so intent on trying to get it 'right' that I was longing for some personality of their own to shine through.
Thank you, this was great.
They were all tremendous. But the one that stood out for me was the young lady. Reason? There was a joy and a swing and a sheer swagger in it that made me wanna move - and isn't that what music is about?
I came straight to the comments to make a case for number 3. Her time was not “metronomically” perfect, but hers had something the other 2 did not. And that is personality. Her groove has a hip shake that was fun to listen to. If I was playing bass with her, on a Saturday night gig, in the 3rd set, I would thank my lucky stars to have her there to keep things fun. 10/10 for me!!
Really enjoyed her playing on this as well. I understand the ratings that Nate expressed, but I get what you mean about her version. I love the personality she brought, which he clearly appreciated too.
Amen to that --- this gal plays with total feel, period.
Perhaps not the "best" drummer, but definitely the feel I would want in my own band.
Let’s be honest, everyone was grooving beside Vinnie and the first guy that copies Vinnie the best.
Vinnie doesn’t groove, I never heard him groove, ever.
Can’t dance on him.
I am a bassist too.
Agreed…. She swings
I found this episode infinitely interesting and thought provoking. Thanks for conceiving it and bringing it to be.
That was great…. They were all good , love all the different takes and your take as well!
Legendary tune and drumbeat! Always loved playing the syncopations in this one
Great video, thanks! Oh and Merry Christmas!!!!
One of my favorite albums and one of my favorite songs from the album! I'm not a drummer but I very much appreciate Vinnie's precision and cleanliness on the recording. I loved all the covers!
Fantastic!!!
All these covers were very high class.... The bar with Vinnie is indeed high!!!!!!
I like your cover better than everyone elses. Killin', man!!
You are Humble, funny, and you rock...... Relaxing for the drummers community.
Pretty sure vinnie played it best
Great stuff bro love it
Nicely done!
All very good versions and I really liked your interpretation Nate 👏🙏
Love your channel.Just discovered it.Thanks.
Great video! Yea Nick! His was the best of the 6 covers. His timing was impeccable and his technique was on lock! Furthermore, he looked professional, completely relaxed, and commanding as he played the song. He played that song like he OWNED it and had vast intimate experience with it. Truly the best cover of that song that I have viewed and a great choice for the winning entry.
That being said, I liked yours even more. I thought that the creative elements that you brought to the table flowed really well with what Vinnie had played in the original and so it worked well as you played it and accented the other instruments expertly. I particularly like the quick double on the crash that seemed to sit somewhere between a flam and 32nd notes. :-) Your artistry on the hats was really nice to see. I enjoy seeing drummers who use their hats for more than just timekeeping. Playing the bridge part with the left hand playing the 32nd notes was really slick also. :-) I also liked your flammed folls near the end and splitting the flames between two surfaces. You had a really relaxed feel and looked confident and comfortable playing it.
Thanks so much!!!! I consider rhis as a christmas gift
Played drums for years. Love this song. I don't have it down pat but love just giving it my best shot lol😅 that is what drums are all about - just have fun! The better drummers out there of which there are many inspire me to keep playing and I am 50! Love drums and drummers globally.
Yo. Your channel is great to watch. Hopefully I can pull into taking lessons with you next year; life is funny at the moment.
Vadrum’s cover is insane. It’s literally the only reference of exactly what vinnie played.
I Salute that guy for studying that prt so hard.
Side question… Cauliflower ear… do you train bjj?
Also, Raghav… is a badass. New wave badass.
Loved it , thank you so much !!
All of these drummers were awesome and I liked some things you played yourself ,
I think the key of this groove and feel besides the execution of the actual groove and fills , is how are you feeling time either as along phrase or a short phrase loops with fills that break that comfort zone but yet still driving you with the same movement of rhythm , I’m sure there is a way to explain it better 😊
Luv this guy!
You are my favorite drummer on you tube. Also, without further ado I like la croix too. Thanks for being you.
I feel kind of lucky to have grown up learning to play in those pre-internet days. It was possible then to believe in your own talent, unaware of what was out there.
Now you need spend only five minutes on TH-cam to discover that there are three-year-old kids out there who can play better than you.
Well, I'm watching this a couple of yrs. after its release, but I believe the first two drummers were, the best. The tall, skinny kid did alright, but you can tell the first two were more experienced behind the kit. Its also important to remember that Vinnie Colaiuta is a professional drummer who went to Berkley and created the drum portion of this song at 36. At Stings request, the song is in 5/8 and Vinnie was able to make it palatable to the listener. This is the work of a true professional.
I am not a drummer. But I have to confess that I love watching this channel out of pure entertainment. ..... Sorry, I will probably never take a lesson but, I will continue to watch this channel because it's great. 😊👍
👍🙂 Nicely done Nate!!!!
Watch Yoyoka's performance.
Fascinating. As a mediocre (at best!) bassist, i have watched quite a few of your videos over some time. Always great to see what goes on in the other half of the rhythm section. Lots of interesting points for musicians of any calibre, in general, and not always specific to drumming.
Watching these covers, it is so pleasing to see so many fantastic drummers, and as, as i mentioned earlier, as a bassist, there is nothing that makes music so much fun for me, as to play with a really good drummer. Makes me sound and play better, knowing i can rely on my stuff whilst locking in with a someone who can groove.
Not going to comment on the relative merits of these drummers, as I would be lucky to get to play with any of them.
Keep up the great work!
PS interesting point re arm strength in the 4th clip. I once had the privilege to be standing right behind Bill Bruford who was playing at a demonstration, and was just floored by the range of dynamics he was able to get, from whisper quiet to real volume with absolutely no seeming effort being expended. A joy to watch.
Nice take Nate! You and Vadrum were my fav. 😁
Oh, I have been playing this a lot lately. Nice surprise, I thought everyone has forgotten this super song.
"Not quite as tight as Vinnie" 😂
Don't be fooled...Nick Molenda's version relies on Vinnie's original audio
Check at 0:59 in his video, the "ghost rim" when he plays the splashes...😏
I agree, and there were others parts too. Yoyoka, 13, has just dropped her version. I think it trumps the lot! So dynamic. If you're not aware of her yet there are 200 vids on her channel(YOYOKA). She has been gigging since she was 4 and it shows.
Fair assessments of each cover.
Have you ever scoured youtube for all the live Seven Days videos of Vinnie playing it and how differently he approaches the song at every show and how incredibly GOOD every performance of it is?! Like I was actively looking for live clips during the "back to bass" tour and show to show he was usually playing something so wildly different and just absolutely going for it. That song is just so "him," every drummer that's played that song with Sting just doesn't go anywhere near how Vinnie played it on record, let alone playing it with any ferocity he does live.
I enjoyed this video so much - thanks - I'm a guitarist/bassist whose theory knowledge has gone ahead of my actual ability to play - but I love drummers and I'd love to BE a drummer. Man.... so technical - and to pick a composition like this to focus on was just brilliant. Thank you again. 🙂
That song and the playing on that song so great makes me strangely emotional
great
Hey Nate, I love this series of videos. 50 ways to leave your lover Paul Simon could be another good song choice for this format. Keep up the good work
26:20 the triplet fill into the final chorus was awesome, definitely a model to follow
MERRY CHRISTMAS BROTHER AND HAPPY NEW DRUM YEAR 🥁
Nice chessy farfisa music during your commercial !!! Lol , Internesting vid on Vinny's chops!!!
Last guy has the best spirit and vibe. Doing it his way, at least to a certain extent. Bravo.
Great song choice duder
I just love your channel and your perspective on most everything you’ve posted. It’s been a longtime since I played along with Sting’s seven days. So, I just tried playing along with it again and let’s just say I have some practicing to do….. So again, how do I get your first three (I think it was three?) free lessons? You sent them to me but I couldn’t open them for some reason. Where do I send my email address again please??
Could you do an Actual Proof drum cover critique video?
Love this.
I'd hire the last guy every time. The passion was as good as the sound.
Nate, you’re awesome dude.
This is a top 10 album for me and I’ve been trying to play along smoothly to it since the 90s. All the entries were really impressive. Would’ve loved to see someone try to do Vinnie’s fills when he would play this live.
Grande 💪
This has got me wanting to give it a go. I think enough people are doing the whole verbatim thing. I do a lot of cross sticking as it is. I can hear different fills in some of the transitions.
One for the lads
Haha cool, I'm one of those people who's spent hours and hours on this song (and Love Is Stronger, and St Augustine from the same record) to get my grooves tighter and improve my uneven measures. And I still wouldn't beat any of these covers.
(Also, that's a pretty decent singing voice dude!)
The bird was best because she did all that sitting so awkwardly and pouting and head bopping.
Bana ilham ve motivasyon veren bir bakış açısı ve anlatım..
On the lips and hearts of drummers,
The name of god is Vinnie.
This song reminds me of college and when my ex destroyed my life. I used to love this song but now it just triggers ptsd
I'm trying to think of an equivalent...
My ex was great (we were just on conflicting timelines in our lives) so all the music she was into has a neutral/positive association, depending on the quality of the music
@@8020drummer hey thanks for responding and in your usual thoughtful fashion. I just want to let you know you have a great channel. You are the same exact kind of drum nerd I am so i appreciate everything you do. Keep up the good work :)
WE LOVE YOU 80/20 DRUMMER
I would have loved to hear comparisons and analysis for the outro portion of the tune (3:57 on). Vinnie’s playing with the time and accents alongside the ostinato string part always struck me as the most amazing part of the song….
I really was expecting "Yoyoka's" cover in there among the best. I came across her covering this years ago when she was only about nine years old i think and nailed it her way and not just a Vinnie copy. Would love to hear her do it again now she's much older and more mature. Anyway still enjoyed your post
Check out Jimmy Rainsford’s live full band cover of Seven Days. You might find a more personal take on the part while still staying true to the original feel.
Try Yoyoka Soma's recent cover..
I think what makes Vinny's the best is he sounds so on top of the beat, the miking is great and the tuning of the drums is great. But the way he hits the hat and the drums - but especially the hat and splashes - really makes his 'rhythmic intention' stand out. He makes every stroke heard, and part of that is probably because they're in the studio, but if somebody wants to cover it they really should be on top of that stuff. Nate could have been better if you could have heard everything and he was a little more muscular and a little more on top of the beat; one certainly gets the opinion from his smoothness that the rhythm is nothing for him. That's a big accomplishment as far as I'm concerned because I screw up playing this unless I'm really really concentrating. Impressive.
just my humble opinion of course. I haven't even tried to play this all the way through. If I did though I would keep most if not all of Mr. C's stuff and add embellishments and it would sound bitchin' if what I hear in my head could come out of my hands and feet.😁🙄🤔
I love this song. The energy from it can make me cry these days.
"He sounds so on top of the beat" I was thinking exactly the same. ...Btw I think Pablo did best.
timely - marries up perfectly after watching Zach Jones on Drumeo
The only one who had Vinnie's feel is drummer # 2, everybody else was too heavy handed and rigid. Vinnie seriously had a whip at the ends of both of his arms on this one. I have a theory about Mr. Colaiuta, goes like this - he killed Jeff Porcaro because no one could tell them apart from more than a few feet away and Jeff was destroying his income by sucking up all the good high pay no-jazz gigs. People would call the studio and book ''That awesome drummer with the glasses I saw there last month'' and then Jeff would show up and say ''Hi, my name's Vinnie. Where's my $1,500?'', then split before Colaiuta loaded in and no one ever knew (except Vinnie, he knew! O.o).
Interesting theory. I suppose it’s karma on Jeff Porcaro for spiking Jim Gordon’s mineral water for all of those years since Pretzel Logic.
Are you on drugs?
@@thomasedmundrichards maybe.
Agree 100 that best was #2
Love the song and admire the skill it takes to play it. Nick is by far the best, I have used his video to help break it down. He also does a great cover of Aaron Spear - Caught Up. The guy is incredible. You too of course..
What a song, unusual tempo
One thing… Gordy Knudtson uses the “Open/Close” method which is slightly different from the Moeller technique..🤨🙂‼️👍
check out Yoyoka ( drummer) - Seven Days (Cover) / Jam at Drum Fantasy Camp in Los Angeles
I’m a die hard Raghav fan! Love all his stuff, but 10.5 sub score seems high with some of those fills falling off time, still really loved his swingy take!
I thought it was all over the place, more like a 7.5 out of 10. Main issue was the constant flam between hats and rim shot.
Nick Melinda's cover is simply amazing.
I think it'd super impressive when someone can nail the parts verbatim, but I like originality more! Rahgav, and nates were the best in that regard. Everyone else killed it, but no originality.
Aaaaw too kind. Raghav killed it tho, you’re right
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Watch Yoyoka..
Off topic👀but are those Bourbon bottles in the background?
oooooh yea
Of course, you have to assume that Vinnie is a 12/10.
when is this series coming back?
No one clicked on the latest ones, leading me to believe no one wanted to watch any more of these ;)
@@8020drummer I wish it would come back, I absolutely loved it!!! Rosanna and Seven Days where great because I remember being frustrated trying to learn them, it was inspiring to see others crush it, it made me want to work harder on the craft!!!!
The first guy is how a drum machine plays Vinnie. My rating 4,2,3,1,5 i rate 3 and 2 above 1 because they have better musicality and the drummers look way more relaxed.
Haha I knew Nick’s going to win as soon as he shows up in the video, followed him long ago because every song he covered is perfectly note for note… he would’ve won the Rosanna cover contest if he was in it too.
Not.
Don't be fooled...Nick Molenda's version relies on Vinnie's original audio
Check at 0:59, the "ghost rim" when he plays the splashes
You need to check out Yoyokas cover mind blowing. These guys were good but Yoyokas better .
Great video, but sadly, comparing anyone to Vinnie is a Mission Impossible, but loved the lessons I picked up from this....thanks
What a coincidence, I got this in my recommendations and it says "7 days ago"
Vinnie's drumming on this album was awesome; he made the odd time signatures feel great (aided of course by Sting's composing). At the time, I remember being stunned that this was the same guy who drummed on Allan Holdsworth's Secrets album (as a drummer-loving non-drummer, Vinnie wasn't on my radar at the time)
Great video! Awesome song choice, and really excellent drummers! I think your assessment is spot-on. But can we talk about your cymbals??? Dude, do you need us to set up a GoFundMe for some new ones?
Funny… They sound fine but yeah…. Let’s get some new cans in there.
Whats with the chewed up cymbals?
The last guy was almost a Stewart Copeland type, which Sting would’ve said is over playing… just saying.
Wow! You do a killer horse @29:06. ❤
Interesting song to pick for a comparison. I mean to say that if you (a) pick a Vinnie song, and (b) pick a odd time song, you’ve got to have a baseline of talent that’s already impressive. Each drummer played so well, but I agree with your pick. Guy just glided through 5/4 like nothin.
It's like sting wanted to p.ss Mr Copeland off lol
Nick Molenda is a fucking monster, he has an Aaron Spears' caught up cover, which is fking mindblowing
No worries bra, you were spot on in your assessment. I thought you were pretty objective even when grading on something as subjective as feel. Don't get too worked up about the p.o.v. of the critic_ it is a healthy barometer for folks to work with when done correctly.