As allways Kramer, great video. I wassad toread on your website that you will no longer be making bows. I truly enjoy the one I haveand was seriously considering getting another. Nonetheless, keep the videos coming. They are quite entertaining to watch.
As always, this was a fun video to watch. Obviously, we all know that Pine is not an ideal bow wood but nonetheless, it is a functional bow. What I have found is that compression is the weakness for softer woods. I wonder if it could be fire hardened to help with compression, and maybe a cheap backing of fiberglass cloth. You might be able to get it up to 35 or 40 lbs that way and still keep the price down.
This is a border life changing video for me. I understand there's some basic tool necessary to get the project done but cost vs skill xp is insane. Thank you sir, great video
I am always curious and theorize that pine woods from 2x4s are okay for bow making, but I've never actually tried it out of fear it'll just fail... But you, not only you prove it to be possible, but also make it seem easy enough for other people to build it. Thank you very much for your efforts 😊 now I'll know for sure it'll work if I follow these instructions 👏👏
The thing with this timber is it’s hard and brittle not hard and malleable so it can crack and break pretty easily over time even with good care, technique and let’s say linseed oil every so often. It works but I wouldn’t use this timber if it was my life on the line and had access to something else. It’s all fun and that’s what matters :)
I'd love to see how you tackle making a different style of bow, even if just for one video. Something like a asymmetric bow like a Yumi bow or even a Penobscot bow. Great video, keep up the good work!
Sounds like it'd be great for just plinking. Sometimes all you really want is to get out on the range and send some arrows, and this would absolutely do that.
I remember like it was yesterday a video you put out of a store bought board bow DIY. I wonder how many years ago that was and how long i've been with you on youtube
I remember seeing in a forum somewhere that some pine woods are denser than others. The pine from the lumber store is young and cheap pine which is going to be terrible. I also read that because it is a soft wood, you would need to make it wider and longer than your average bow so it doesn't set quickly. I always wanted to try doing a cheap pine build, but never have.
Yep, always finish your tiller before you shape up the handle. It's pointless to spend hours making a gorgeous handle just to find out your tiller is bad and the bow is fire wood.
Love the content man. I just ordered some strings for you for the first time. I'm glad I now where its coming from and the will be great quality. Keep up the great work brother.
You mentioned one of the limitations is the low poundage. Just for clarification, Colorado has a minimum bow poundage of 35 lbs and New Mexico has no minimum poundage limit, both to hunt big game including elk. People think you need to have a compound bow with more wheels, pulleys and strings/belts on it than an engine block with 80 lbs to hunt. Not so.
Another awesome video. Now let's say just for the sake of argument you want to take it a step further and back the bow. What's the cheapest way to effectively put a backing on it?
Kramer happy New Year my friend, great cheap build ! You should take this bow and put some glass backing on it. That would be interesting. I take it the 2x4 is pine ?
This is exactly what I was thinking. What happens to the durability if you back it with glass? Yeah, it's a cheap bow but maybe your using this to build a kids bow that they're going to grow out of but you don't want to risk it exploding on them?
A thought I often have watching you make entire bows from 1 piece of wood is: doesn't making the handle also affect tillering? Even if it's not by much you always seen to remove what looks like half the depth? of the wood at your thumb-pointer finger rest/grip spot.
Perfect! I need to make a low poundage bow; say 15 lbs. I tried my first bow out of Mountain Maple. Lots of knots. It broke at 4 pounds. Ooops. $2.34? Is that after you removed all the waste parts of the 2X4? 😂
Very interested in bow making, never done it, but I have done a fair bit of wood working, could you explain grain (sorry, new here, maybe you already have done), tightness (growth rings) their direction, etc for when choosing a suitable plank/board. TIA
i always thought the grain of the wood had to be showing along the side of the bow (kind of like natural veneers) , but in this video you are using the grain flowing down the face of the bow, is this common practice, or is it just the pattern of the stave being used? sorry, if this is confusing, i find it hard to describe what im talking about
What kind of wood is this? It looks like construction-grade spruce. Is that right? I've built bows before and I might take this on when the weather warms up.
I am curious about your total time invested and how much set it developed after those 200 (or 1000) shots. What does it chronograph at? I’m not asking to imply criticism; really just curious what a 20 lbs pine bow can do. Great video.
This might be an ignorant question but as someone who has never made a bow before and has only shot one a handful of times what arrows do you use for this type of bow?
lol swampy cree/native american guy here. Damn, i wish i knew how to make one and also hunt with an bow and arrow. do you guy's bows and arrow come ready to use when buying or would i have to built it. and string it and all that complicated stuff. i mean one day i would like to learn our old ways of hunting with a bow and arrow and learning how to make one also the old traditional way.
Hi sir I am building a Recurve take down bow I am from South Africa. My riser is 17 inch and I want a 62 inch bow. My limb pads will be 4 inches how long must the limbs be cut to make a 62 inch bow? I ask a lot of people and many do not know. I use my wife you tube channel. Nice video info you gave
I’m a bit scared of starting a project. Because I tried one of the bow you made a video about and it broke on my first try. I guess I need practice to success 🤷♂️
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
In the past month I've been trying to make a bow and the 3 that I have built all broke in roughly the same spot(near the handle). I have used different wood and tried multiple designs(including thus one). If anyone could help that would be nice.
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Will it bow... Bed slats... Cheap, a lot of the cutting is already done, flexible (beech, birch but probably not pine). I think it could be good.
As allways Kramer, great video. I wassad toread on your website that you will no longer be making bows. I truly enjoy the one I haveand was seriously considering getting another. Nonetheless, keep the videos coming. They are quite entertaining to watch.
2.50 materials, $500 worth of skilled labour :P very nice
My luck i send out my DNA and it gets planted at a crime scene some place I've never been.😂
@@joeasher2876 Aren't those only about 60" long or less?
As always, this was a fun video to watch. Obviously, we all know that Pine is not an ideal bow wood but nonetheless, it is a functional bow. What I have found is that compression is the weakness for softer woods. I wonder if it could be fire hardened to help with compression, and maybe a cheap backing of fiberglass cloth. You might be able to get it up to 35 or 40 lbs that way and still keep the price down.
Yes I agree! I would love to see just how far you could take a regular 2x4 by doing simple techniques like this!
A fiberglass backing would be detrimental. It would put more load on the belly which is obviously the weak spot with this wood.
@@malcolmjohnson5941Maybe this could be helped by laminating both the back and belly with fiberglass?
Yes u can overlay these with fiberglass mesh and poxy or even leather
These would be great for larp, cosplay, kids, beginners, really like the idea
This is a border life changing video for me. I understand there's some basic tool necessary to get the project done but cost vs skill xp is insane. Thank you sir, great video
I am always curious and theorize that pine woods from 2x4s are okay for bow making, but I've never actually tried it out of fear it'll just fail...
But you, not only you prove it to be possible, but also make it seem easy enough for other people to build it. Thank you very much for your efforts 😊 now I'll know for sure it'll work if I follow these instructions 👏👏
The thing with this timber is it’s hard and brittle not hard and malleable so it can crack and break pretty easily over time even with good care, technique and let’s say linseed oil every so often. It works but I wouldn’t use this timber if it was my life on the line and had access to something else. It’s all fun and that’s what matters :)
I'd love to see how you tackle making a different style of bow, even if just for one video. Something like a asymmetric bow like a Yumi bow or even a Penobscot bow. Great video, keep up the good work!
Glad to see this channel growing. Can't wait for you guys to start selling bows again. I'd be first on the list. 😉
Kramer you and Clay hayes are really making me want to start trying to build bows 🙏
You should try a pine belly with a birch back! Two laminate bow. It's the traditional Finno Ugric style. A cheap yet high performing bow?
I made a flat bow once from a piece of oak flooring (tongue and groove, real wood).
This is amazing! If I can, I would like to make this work for kids who would be able to see and help craft their own bow.
Sounds like it'd be great for just plinking. Sometimes all you really want is to get out on the range and send some arrows, and this would absolutely do that.
This would pair really well with the straw? and silk spiral targets you showed previously.
If Apocalypse Crafting 101 was a community college course, I love this
I am annoyed because I watched one of your shorts now this video....now I want to start building bows.
Nice one. Would a piece of bamboo flooring or skirting boards work better?
Here in Australia, We have a Hardware store, Bunnings. They sell Australian Spotted gum floor boards. They make very nice self bows
I remember like it was yesterday a video you put out of a store bought board bow DIY. I wonder how many years ago that was and how long i've been with you on youtube
I remember seeing in a forum somewhere that some pine woods are denser than others. The pine from the lumber store is young and cheap pine which is going to be terrible. I also read that because it is a soft wood, you would need to make it wider and longer than your average bow so it doesn't set quickly. I always wanted to try doing a cheap pine build, but never have.
The pure laugh on that first shot @11:40 That's why I want to build this. Thanks for the great idea and simple explanation. Rad.
Yep, always finish your tiller before you shape up the handle. It's pointless to spend hours making a gorgeous handle just to find out your tiller is bad and the bow is fire wood.
Always love watching your simple bow builds. Though I tried to make one in the past and it was not successful I still enjoy your videos.
Very nice- pine does look good with finish, and I love the clean lines- great build!
very cool ... simple explanations work every time :)
Your attitude is spot on ✌🏻
Love the content man. I just ordered some strings for you for the first time. I'm glad I now where its coming from and the will be great quality. Keep up the great work brother.
Congrats, Horizon; Zero Dawn gave me an itch for archery, and you've given me an itch to build a bow
You did it !!!
Thank you for sharing your experiments. 😄
So cool, thanks!!
You mentioned one of the limitations is the low poundage. Just for clarification, Colorado has a minimum bow poundage of 35 lbs and New Mexico has no minimum poundage limit, both to hunt big game including elk. People think you need to have a compound bow with more wheels, pulleys and strings/belts on it than an engine block with 80 lbs to hunt. Not so.
Another awesome video. Now let's say just for the sake of argument you want to take it a step further and back the bow. What's the cheapest way to effectively put a backing on it?
Kramer happy New Year my friend, great cheap build ! You should take this bow and put some glass backing on it. That would be interesting. I take it the 2x4 is pine ?
This is exactly what I was thinking. What happens to the durability if you back it with glass? Yeah, it's a cheap bow but maybe your using this to build a kids bow that they're going to grow out of but you don't want to risk it exploding on them?
Also remember recurves are used to get more poundage out of the same materials.
Welsh and proud buddy your a fellow Celtic warrior lol
A thought I often have watching you make entire bows from 1 piece of wood is: doesn't making the handle also affect tillering? Even if it's not by much you always seen to remove what looks like half the depth? of the wood at your thumb-pointer finger rest/grip spot.
Perfect! I need to make a low poundage bow; say 15 lbs. I tried my first bow out of Mountain Maple. Lots of knots. It broke at 4 pounds. Ooops. $2.34? Is that after you removed all the waste parts of the 2X4? 😂
So great :-) I´ve got very good bows. Have to try this
I would love to see what you can do with PVC. :>
Very interested in bow making, never done it, but I have done a fair bit of wood working, could you explain grain (sorry, new here, maybe you already have done), tightness (growth rings) their direction, etc for when choosing a suitable plank/board. TIA
The ones with flattest rings, ideally going horizontally across limb, are best. The key thing is no spiral / twist . Good luck
Amazing, keep up the good work!
could a backing be put on it? Maybe the whole drywall tape or snake / fish skin? Would burnishing the bow with a torch do anything?
If you ran a few layers of fibreglass tape down the front of the bow (convex side), would that improve the ‘poundage’ and resilience of the bow?
you can increase the poundege by giving the bow a syah
I made a 60lb at 29" bow out of maple from home depot. Just gotta sort through the wood
Which kind of maple was it?
Wow nice job but soft woods are alot harder to work with
I think even I could maybe do this…… new project underway!!
For a 60" 50-60# R/D Bow, about how thick are the limbs? (glass,veneers,core,tapers)
is it possible to stabalize the entire bow stave as a first step? And if so how would it affect the overall performance?
Very cool great job.
God bless.
Will the bow be stronger if you fiberglass it
If you want a stronger bow why not just make it out of different wood?
Hi Kramer
How do you decide which limb will be the top and which will be the bottom?
any advice on sharpening a cabinet scraper
i always thought the grain of the wood had to be showing along the side of the bow (kind of like natural veneers) , but in this video you are using the grain flowing down the face of the bow, is this common practice, or is it just the pattern of the stave being used? sorry, if this is confusing, i find it hard to describe what im talking about
🥹that’s so satisfying..
Would using thinner boards laminated together, create a stronger longer, lasting bow?
Great Video!!
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Get gud
Shoot stick. If stick sticks, stick is arrow.
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Would a layer of fiberglass help increase pull weight?
Great video 👌
How fast can you make a good bow?
i dont understand why alot of thumb draw bowers don't like Kramer bow builds.
Love your content!
What kind of wood is this? It looks like construction-grade spruce. Is that right? I've built bows before and I might take this on when the weather warms up.
How thin does the boy end up being to start tillweing on a tillering tree ?
Great job
Very cool! 😀
I am curious about your total time invested and how much set it developed after those 200 (or 1000) shots.
What does it chronograph at? I’m not asking to imply criticism; really just curious what a 20 lbs pine bow can do.
Great video.
Amazing!
Have you made a bow out of a pallet?
Now I want to try and make a takedown version.... 😁👍
This might be an ignorant question but as someone who has never made a bow before and has only shot one a handful of times what arrows do you use for this type of bow?
lol swampy cree/native american guy here. Damn, i wish i knew how to make one and also hunt with an bow and arrow. do you guy's bows and arrow come ready to use when buying or would i have to built it. and string it and all that complicated stuff. i mean one day i would like to learn our old ways of hunting with a bow and arrow and learning how to make one also the old traditional way.
Thank you. Sure beats sweating it out on a shave horse.
Would it help if you glued a layer of leather, fabric or something similar to the front? either to make it heavier or to extend life expectancy.
It has been done historically yes
@@BlueSparrow13 thanks, but why and who. to increase draw weight or to increase lifespan.
Hi sir I am building a Recurve take down bow I am from South Africa. My riser is 17 inch and I want a 62 inch bow. My limb pads will be 4 inches how long must the limbs be cut to make a 62 inch bow? I ask a lot of people and many do not know. I use my wife you tube channel. Nice video info you gave
I wonder how well this would work in penobscot fashion
I’m a bit scared of starting a project. Because I tried one of the bow you made a video about and it broke on my first try. I guess I need practice to success 🤷♂️
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
Many very successful and experienced bow builders broke bows. This is not a hobby or profession like anyome else. It takes a lot of time but is very rewarding on the long run.
What wood do you use
Could you whittle this? I have a Spartan Swiss Army Knife and not many other tools.
Ist es jetzt noch möglich eine Schicht Fiberglas aufzubringen? Würde das den Bogen haltbarer machen?
In the past month I've been trying to make a bow and the 3 that I have built all broke in roughly the same spot(near the handle). I have used different wood and tried multiple designs(including thus one). If anyone could help that would be nice.
So you see, thats where the trouble began. 11:35 That smile. That damned smile.
I heard that making a bow a recurve increases its poundage.
Lmao I looted my dad's garage for tools and now I'm making a Poplar bow.
Can't wait to snap the best quality piece of pine at Bunnings! For those outside Australia, its like finding a unicorn just to turn it into dog food.
You could back that with drywall tape and wood glue. Should make it stonger for not much more price.
Can you make traditional Japaneese bow
Is this pine?
No backing at all on this one?! I thought I had a nice red oak board bow up to about 26" draw at 35# it snapped.
how about a jbweld will it bow?
Very cool. Something I'll end up doing one day. Thankyou for the tips 👍🏻
@digitaldogs233 Today is one day. Just saying. It has been my personal experience that "one day" often as not never comes. This is not said to beat you up, but rather to encourage and embolden you. If you think you are seriously interested, then set a definite day/deadline to start this project. Even better, record your progress! Share it, so this budding community can celebrate your journey and grow in knowledge with you!
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I get you and no i didn't feel beat up. As you're comment is very true. 👍🏻
Now try to build a penobscot bow this way to get a hunting weight bow
You never explain how and where to remove wood. What is that you're doing when you tiller it? What's that tool for?
If you combine this bow with the duct tape backing then you will get a cheap but durable bow.
And now the megermend in a acual megerment that is logical like meters and cm
Ecxelente amigo regálame el de 100 libras😅
You really need to wear eye protection when you sand.
Going down to the Goodwill to "thrift" me a belt sander for under $30 🙃
Well, I guess I gotta go make another bow...
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