THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! You not only saved me several hundred $ but even more, you gave me the satisfaction of fixing the EXACT same problem on the EXACT same mower!! Again 1000 Thank you's!! P.S. I had to use the vice grip method to remove & install the valve as I didn't have the special tool
Been a gardener for last 20 years, watched your vids and learned a lot of tips to keeping engines running etc. A small tip for you, when you reseat the valve seat, finish by using the valve as a drift, this will ensure proper alignment between valve and seat
I had the exact same problem with a 17 HP Briggs Intek and I realized that I have been adjusting the valves the wrong way this whole time! Now I've got around 100 psi of compression and it runs like a champ! Great video!
5 years ago the parts were very reasonable, today however, it can be cheaper to fix rather than replace. I had a Briggs where the intake valve guide moved and held the valve open, no compression. Took it to a Machine shop removed the guide, knurled it replaced and it worked great, he also did a valve job, it would have taken more than just lapping the valves to make them seat properly. Great video sir
One of the best channels on youtube i admire your work and talents and you do it all while being very genuine and a true nice bloke full credit to you.
Agreed, I think that the fact that he is so down to earth, informative and non drama oriented, plus just a regular kinda guy is why he's my favorite TH-camr
thank you soo much for this video. my 3 year old Craftsman replaced my 20 year old Craftsman that I nursed along. quit running. cleaned carb and also replaced flywheel as it stopped after hitting tree root, turns over but wont catch; plan to replace starter next already replaced spark plug, fuel filter, battery, etc.);s have learned everything from youtube and BS manual. While using flywheel puller, of course made hole in crankshaft not sure if thats a problem; will try to figure out how to check compression; but if thats the problem I guess I'll break down and search for a shop; your video helped a lot but also showed me its not something I have tools or knowledge to do what you did. I'm an old retired school teacher and cant afford $100 a month to get yard mowed. I've looked at many videos and yours is one of the best I've seen. Again thank you.
Hey thanks for the video! This is my same exact mower and thanks to you I was able to fix my mower. It suffered the exact same problem, the seat came out but with the help of your video it running great now!!! Thanks you my friend!
Nice video! I had the 20hp model for 9 years and before selling it, I gave it a quick valve job, and cleaned up the head with new gaskets. I always used a synthetic oil and kept on eye on the air filter, which can clog pretty quick especially with cotton wood fluff. After 6 years it still runs great!
Great video! The intake pushrod is aluminum and the exhaust pushrod is steel to compensate for uneven expansion of the metals when the engine warms up. the intake pushrod also tends to wear at the guide plate and should be reversed if not replaced, they're cheap. Also, run the piston 1/4" past TDC to bypass the compression relief when adj. valves. Nice job!
That large gap in clamping force has been resolved in newer engines. And the aluminum vs steel pushrod is for heat. Aluminum for intake, steel for exhaust. Gauging lash should be done with some force to pull gauge out. Not loose but tight. Some drag is best. Rings wouldnt hurt but I've been there, done that. Expensive for my 445677 0476 e1 twin cylinder. Almost 40 a set. On Ebay, they ran up to 99 a set. Ridiculous but worth it when these engines run 1000 or more for new units. Got a new carb from China for it. It's so reliable that it cuts grass 3 ft high with little effort. I wish I had a shop that nice. I've got more tools than most people but I need a shop. Enjoy your mowing folks!
For us do-it-our-selfers, your site provides the inspiration! Love it & Thanks for taking the time to show us all of your tricks of the trade. Most enjoyable.
This by far the BEST CHANNEL on small engines and things like that, Mustie I went to Briggs and Stratton School in Memphis Tenn back in 1992 at a place called Engine Power Company, I will be 50 this year and man o man you have really taught me much much more, thanks Mustie, keep up the good videos and awsome work that you make so easy to understand!!!
Great video ! There is just one more step I would of taken after staking the valve seat back in place. I would of lapped the valve lightly with some lapping compound. After the compound is wiped off you can see where the valve is contacting the seat. Inspect the lapped area on the seat just to make sure the valve is making contact with the seat all the way around as there is a possibility that the seat is not in completely straight. Think of it this way. only by a slight chance are you going to get the seat back in the head at the exact same rotational position it was installed at the factory, the original position the valve seat was cut in. You only need to be a thou off here or there for the valve to not seat properly. Now if the valve seat in the head looks good after lapping then check the valve. If the valve is bent even the slightest amount there then would be area where the seat on the valve is not polished looking from the compound. This overlooked step is one that does not take a lot of time and should not be overlooked. Keep up the great videos!
Dude I can sit and watch you all day, I'm one of those that has to watch the video 100 times just for a simple spark plug change LOL, but being able to see and watch someone else just makes things so much easier for me. I just started learning how to repair Small engine so all knowledge is good knowledge so thank you for your patience and taking the time to record !!!!!
Only 8 minutes into the vid and I'm learning TONS. When refitting the valve retaining collets, my Dad always used to hold them in place with a dab of thick grease before loosening the valve spring compressor - I didn't inherit his practical engineering abilities. It's a shame that you're not EVERYONE's neighbour!
If you take a socket and a hammer sometimes you can give the top of the valve spring a couple good whacks and the keeper will dislodge before the spring returns to it's normal shape. I've had great success with it before. Also, putting oil on the keeper before installation will help keep it in place when you go to install it.
Bought a non running 8HP Craftsman chipper for $50. Carb cleaned and headgasket blown. Purr's like a kitten. I still need to sharpen the two smaller blades and order the long single blade. I found pencils and some crap from mice. The longer blade had some large chips in it. Not a bad fix. Thanks for the video's and keep up the good work.
I enjoy watching you troubleshoot and fix these old things with go ol' ingenuity! I had a Craftsman mower with a 12hp engine that kept losing the valve seat too, so I used a punch to 'stake' it back in place... worked forever after that!
Hi there great job and like lots of others l spotted you forgot to install the caps for the valves before setting the gaps. This reminds me of me every time I do a job and try to reverse engineer the rebuild. It great to see guys like you have the same issues. Many thanks for the honesty and sharing. Kindest regards. Joe.
I have never been mechanically minded but by watching your videos and your very enjoyable easy manner I am loving learning about engines and motors.... keep up the good work :O)
Own a 2000 Craftsman mower. A little older than that one. Had to do some repairs, even had the parts book. The parts they sent me were not what I ordered. They had alternative part nums. Most parts were not available any more. Got it fixed but it took some searching for parts. Love that mower. Even the wife can run it. It's been almost trouble free.
The reason they give for two different metal push rods is that the exhaust valve gets hotter than the intake valve which cools when the gas/air mix passes it. Apparently the different metals and different temps allow both push rods to expand the same amount.
Nice explanation. Briggs & Strattons are great engines and designed flawlessly. mine lasted 17 years but just keeping her oiled up. It was an LT1000 with an Intek.
Awesome, informative video. Straightforward, to the point, without all the "filler bs" other guys put in because they have no substance. This entire video is very pertinent and useful. Thank you!!!!!!
Thanks for the top walk through. Our intek 17.0HP just threw a valve, was about to drag the mower to the scrap but I’ll think I’ll have a go at repairing it with a replacement head 👍🏻
I watched this video when it was uploaded. Funny how now I ended up with one of these mowers/engines to fix. Just my luck that the valves are fine in it. It has a connecting rod issue...well, half of a connecting rod and bunch of shrapnel.
Hi Mustie: It's fun going back and watching some old videos once in a while. I enjoyed this the first time and now am enjoying it again back in the old shop. Cheers, Steve
Love your videos, and your ingenuity. When you were trying to tap the seat back into the block, it reminded me that I was taught to use the valve in place to keep the seat straight. Then use a socket about the same diameter as the valve face to gently tap it in. Only do this until the seat is started about halfway down. Then remove the valve and drive the seat in the rest of the way. The valve does a great job of keeping the seat aligned, but don't hit the valve too hard or it will break.
I know this is an older video, that said I want to thank you for saving me a lot of time diagnosing my 2004 Craftsman DLT 4000 that has this engine. Nothing as dramatic as yours, I've always looked for mouse nests etc before doing my seasonal PM. Now at 420+ hours, it wouldn't start when hot the other day. A minor valve adjustment and we're good to go again. Thanks for the great informative videos!
Having worked on my mowers for years without any training, it was nice to see my "intuition" was close on many things. My test was does it run (better) that when I started, if it did, it was a victory. B&S, Kohler, unmarked for Gravely and Troy-built (had to order parts from THEM) I kept them all running (and sharpened) by intuition, sweat, and an occasional drop of blood. Gave up all my equipment when we moved in-town, but makes me happy to watch your video and see someone with far more experience do things roughly the same as I did. Thanks.
When I was young (too many moons ago) I would repair neighbors mowers and things to have money for go kart and field cars parts and gas. (gas - 24 cents a gallon) It amazes me to see how different things are made now where most things you work on I have never seen apart. I suspect when your out cruising and see something sitting out for sale or free you have a good idea of what might be up and if it would be feasible to grab, even before coming to a stop!
I have the intek 21 series 12HP very very similar looking to this engine. My dad bought it in 2010 and still 2021 no blown gasket but I replaced it anyway for fun. Mainly the valve cover gasket was starting to leak oil and collect dirt and looked gross, I like my things spotless so that's why I opened up a lawn mower engine for the first time. Thanks for this video it was entertaining to watch. I gotta get myself a filler gauge for those exhaust/intake gaps.
Hey bud thanks alot for your videos my local mower repair dude tryed telling me that my ride on was not worth fixing and i should give it to him for 200 bucks after i paid 1000 for it only 2 weeks prior after this video i spend $13.50 on a gasket 10 bucks on a set of feelers and boom new mower ohhh ffffuuuccckkk yeah bud thanks alot
My old craftsman had a bad valve seat, instead of just popping it back in i took it to an Aluminum welder had the valve hole filled in, then re-drilled it, so the seat wouldnt come back out, it only cost me $50.00..Mower was $150.00 repair was $50.00 sold it to brother for $250.00 ..it still runs!
In the divorce settlement, the other spouse owed you a new bar, chain, internal sprocket, and ten cans of carburetor cleaner....plus whatever other parts were screwed.....!!!
Going through that now with a 3 wheeler i recently bought, has low compression and the guy at our local small engine repair said" better off getting a new one, ill give you hundred bucks for it" meanwhile I paid 700 in June . They think people are just going to give their stuff away. NOT THIS GUY
I LOVE YOUR EXPERTISE and your WITT ! You know what you're doing and you make it look EASY, and I know it ain't! And the gag-reel of bloopers at the end was the icing on the cake! Thank You! Bill, from Tn. 🇺🇸
This happened to a friend of mine Briggs....I was winging it but first I did a comp test and wasn't sure if it was a bent valve or what.Then this is what I found.I popped it back in and didn't do the punch around the seat emboss.....but it still worked and lasted years.He paid me with a bunch of Farnicastaffs.
... Just started watching this video today, I like this guy presentation, none of this putting down the other video guys, straight up forward to the point on how to make old and unusable parts come back alive..
Great video, however in my small engine shop I lap that valve w/valve grinding compound prior to spring installation. That 3 minute procedure ensures a perfect seal and alignment of the valve face surfaces.
Had the exact same thing happen 16yrs ago to a craftsman self propelled push mower with a 5hp briggs ohv, a former friend gave it to me bc it wouldnt start. Took the head off, compressed the valve and knocked the seat back in. Thing ran for another 3yrs before upgrading to a rider. Watching this brought back some good memories.
Yea speaking of neiabors after they borrowed my lawnmower I went to mow and I just heard my deck drive belt slipping and I wondered why. So I looked under the deck and saw a bunch of stuff on the blades. And once I got a closer look their were 8 garbage bags on the blades and they were on all 3 blades. And to make it worse they put a huge scratch in the side and busted the deck discharge plastic. Needless to say that was the last time I let them use it.
Riding lawn tractors are something that people with push-mowers always want to barrow. I hate being rude to people so I take it easy on them and just politely tell them to FUCK OFF!!
I hear your voice and I see the actor Allen Alda, you sound so much like him. That is why your videos are so good and soothing when you explain what you are doing. I have seen many of your videos, they are good, interesting and I have learned a lot. I think I can tackle my lawn tractor thanks to you. I will make a comment back to you in the future when I get the tractor to run. Thanks for you help and education. I really enjoy your videos.
I took small engine repair while in high school, and we had a blast bringing lawn mower engines back to life, I wonder what our teacher did with all the good running engines we worked on. We were able to work on a couple lawn tractor engines and cut the grass at the place, and I heard those tractors were used for many years after we rebuilt the engines.. It was a totally cool class!!
I also took a small engines shop in highschool . Normally what they always did was rotate the engines and then have the next class tear them back down for being rebuilt. If you were at the top in your class you got to take the engines home.
Thank you Mustie 1. This 3 year old video helped me diagnose and repair a mower recently. It was put to the curb with a sign : RUNS, SORT OF. It started and ran ok for a few minutes, then would begin to stumble and lose power. Because I had watched this, I knew about loose valve seats. Sure enough, when I pulled the head, the exhaust valve seat was sitting cockeyed. Tapped it back in, dimple peened around it, runs fine now. You have the best man-channel on TH-cam.
Gotta love a guy who believes that blue painters tape make a great bandaid! Having spent years in a machine shop and walking around with me and the guys with oily rags and blue tape around Injuries makes me feel right at home
How I wish to have known of your video's a year earlier! It took my mechanic a whole lot of expensive (!!) investigation hours to finally discover a dislodged valve seat in my 3 cyl Mitsubishi engine. "This never happens", he said. "I didn't go look for it because it seemed to me the less likely thing". Right. Had to pay him nearly 2000 dollars...... Great video's Mr Mustie! Thnx
a little dab of grease will hold them keepers in place and make it a lot easier, pulse if you do happen to drop them they stick to the bench and not bounce to the magic hole in your shop. ;)
Next time use small sockets under valve spring clam to valve spring that will get much more clearance, but be careful not to push it in too much 50 years of an engine working for me love to watch. Also great humanism showing miss happenings that mostly happen to every one of us, Great for good chuckle!
I like the out takes at the end. And, yes, I did catch that you forgot the valve stem caps on re-assembly, but I did not say anything out loud - wanted to see how long it took you to realize the booboo . Mustie, you make these repairs look so easy - if I had half of your skills .... Always a pleasure watching your videos !
this repair was easy though. Most of the repairs on the channel are just neglect based, and are easy to fix. That's what makes this channel gold though, he's showing you how easy it is to fix your junk.
Interesting range of videos and repairs! You could have put the seat in the freezer over night and warmed the head up in an oven then popped the seat in a lot easier with a 'socket' type drift.
I came to comment the exact same thing and of course it's already been said. Used to do the same thing many years ago putting steel roller bearings into alloy housings, half the time you'd barely have to tap the bearing to seat it home. That said, I'm not sure I'd want to heat cycle any cylinder head to any great degree without it being clamped to its cylinder block - I'm thinking perhaps it could warp a tad then not seat right when reassembled. I never tried that specifically, so just spit balling concerns.
The point of the failure being: The head had already overheated, expanded, and dropped the seat. Not much interference fit left to be enhanced by thermal expansion/contraction of the individual parts for reassembly. Judiciously coax the seat in to full purchase, and "punch" the surrounding head material around the seat to grasp it as best as one can.
Nice fix. I didn't know you could put the valve seat back in the head. I learned something today. Great video. Thanks for producing these informative videos.
Note to self, if you use a sharp pointed punch and make some punch marks around inside the hole along the sides it will help hold them in also it just make it a little harder to get them back in but when the motor gets hot again they have a better chance of staying in place..
Great Video’s Mustie, bingeing on your projects as I recover from surgery. Thanks for the quality subject matter and sharing your extensive knowledge. Thanks so much for the extra work so we have interesting films to watch. Take care and may the free piles treat you well!
I've found that a soda blaster works fantastic for cleaning up heads and other misc small engine parts. I got one cheap for about $120 at harbor freight. One of my favorite tools
Watching your video's, these are extremely informative on small engine repairs,,the things I know very little about, thanks for the lessons. Seeing your different videos on repairs to a wide variety of modern mechanical marvels is a pleasant way to enjoy some downtime. Thanks
You're making some quality videos, there. And highly educational, too! I really enjoy watching them. Your channel is my new addiction😎...The 'blooper reel' add-on is a nice touch. Already looking forward to the next one. All the best from the Netherlands🇳🇱
Love watching your videos and bring engines back to life. Really sad how Americans don't fix much stuff anymore and just throw it away to buy a new one
You found the valve caps before starting so no worries. Easily done. Briggs and Stratton should do oversize exhaust valve seats so the head could be machined out and oversize seats pressed in. Valve seat tool bowed out normally due to overcoming tension in valve keepers, we call them collets in Uk. Tip take initial tension with valve spring compression tool and tap with bronze hammer on valve cap end tool, just enough o break the lock. It’s just a light tap and keeps now released carry on winding and not not bending the tool. Works on lawn mowers to trucks I mean triple axle articulated trucks.
So appreciate your videos and the time you take to present these.. On a personal note I learned to stop swearing when I'm working which is most times is alone.. I pretend I'm making a video... Miracles occur in strange ways at times. Thx
Thank you mustie I suffer from PTSD and I use to do what you do but the last 10 years has been really bad dealing with my issues I watched you all the time in the past now I'm back I know it sounds funny but your videos help me in a way to deal with my situation
If the old gasket is not blown/worn down and looks good you can reuse it. An old military trick learned in war when head gaskets were depleted for planes is to paint the old gasket with aluminum or silver paint which when it heats up helps seal the old gasket. I recently tried this on an old Kohler head gasket. So far works fine.
Just watched your video on the new car lift. Nice job on the assembly of it. This is a nice addition to your shop and no more working on your back or knees lol .were getting to old for that.
SPRING LAUNCH !! Great channel man, my craftsman was leaking oil like a sieve on the bottom end, had to retorque all the main bolts. Still leaks on the top end, probably the head gasket. Mine is a tecumseh 12hp from 1990. Also its way past its valve gap check, so I got to fix that too. I also think you're a great channel because you show that its not too hard really to FIX STUFF. Cant believe what you find at yardsales and stuff.
I have this exact mower I got for free, but it's branded Poulan Pro, it didn't run because of the anti backfire module in float bowl....I simply disabled it... been mowing with it 2 years now. Though this vid gives me an idea of its engine and what could fail... nice to know. Thanks.
I love the electrician tape on the finger !!! My dad who was a master mechanic over 50 years showed me that in 1964 when I was 7 . And blue my favorite color!!!!
i take a piece of sandpaper and wrap it on my thumb and finger and tape it up.....to push springs in guns... works everytime... otherwise i cant stand the pain... the sandpaper is tough and provides finger protection..
Same deal with a Briggs valve seat on a borrowed small water pump on the beach at Nome Alaska in '05. Only tools were a cheap socket set found a few days earlier while driving an ATV on the beach. Gaskets were good, seat good and I carefully cleaned 'stuff' with gasoline. Seat went back in A-OK but no hammer or punch. Rock and a found 16d nail got the punching done.
There's your problem lady... ;) Anyone ever notice that valve spring compressors never seem to be "quite" right for the task at hand. It's almost they design the damn things for 1 specific engine but tell you its "universal"...
In the 60s my neighbor had a big push mower...when I got a house in 1986 I went push power too but could never find one as big and nice as my neighbor's mower. I had a Craftsman push-edger too. Lots of work but good exercise.
Thanks for the video. This same thing happened to a Cub Cadet and I was able to fix it right in the barn yard. You hate to work like that but you do what you gotta do.
@@1pcfred no they don't. U can do it by hand. Cars and trucks u need a spring compressor.. not to correct you. But for my 45 yr old hands they aren't too baf.. baf.. lol baaaaaaaaaaahf
A blopper real at the end... Classic Jackie Chan... LMAO... That's why you have the best channel you admit when your wrong and show us too, keep the videos coming.
I wasn't going to say anything, but I didn't see you put those valve buttons back on....LOL. Also when you asked what we thought about the blade, I thought it looked ok if you were going to plow the garden and then you said it had a little bit of a roto-tiller thing going on....WOW...great minds do think alike....love your videos.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! You not only saved me several hundred $ but even more, you gave me the satisfaction of fixing the EXACT same problem on the EXACT same mower!! Again 1000 Thank you's!!
P.S. I had to use the vice grip method to remove & install the valve as I didn't have the special tool
I have the exact mower and it ran like a dream until a few days ago. Started surging and running rough. Wish I lived near you. You are a wizard.
Been a gardener for last 20 years, watched your vids and learned a lot of tips to keeping engines running etc. A small tip for you, when you reseat the valve seat, finish by using the valve as a drift, this will ensure proper alignment between valve and seat
Folding the aluminum over the lip is called “peening”. Great video, thumbs up
I had the exact same problem with a 17 HP Briggs Intek and I realized that I have been adjusting the valves the wrong way this whole time! Now I've got around 100 psi of compression and it runs like a champ! Great video!
5 years ago the parts were very reasonable, today however, it can be cheaper to fix rather than replace. I had a Briggs where the intake valve guide moved and held the valve open, no compression. Took it to a Machine shop removed the guide, knurled it replaced and it worked great, he also did a valve job, it would have taken more than just lapping the valves to make them seat properly.
Great video sir
Prices have over doubled in 3 years
One of the best channels on youtube i admire your work and talents and you do it all while being very genuine and a true nice bloke full credit to you.
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Agreed, I think that the fact that he is so down to earth, informative and non drama oriented, plus just a regular kinda guy is why he's my favorite TH-camr
Youre wrong it's not one of the best it IS the best
Hes the best. I cant wait til he truly blows up
thank you soo much for this video. my 3 year old Craftsman replaced my 20 year old Craftsman that I nursed along. quit running. cleaned carb and also replaced flywheel as it stopped after hitting tree root, turns over but wont catch; plan to replace starter next already replaced spark plug, fuel filter, battery, etc.);s have learned everything from youtube and BS manual. While using flywheel puller, of course made hole in crankshaft not sure if thats a problem; will try to figure out how to check compression; but if thats the problem I guess I'll break down and search for a shop; your video helped a lot but also showed me its not something I have tools or knowledge to do what you did. I'm an old retired school teacher and cant afford $100 a month to get yard mowed. I've looked at many videos and yours is one of the best I've seen. Again thank you.
Hey thanks for the video! This is my same exact mower and thanks to you I was able to fix my mower. It suffered the exact same problem, the seat came out but with the help of your video it running great now!!! Thanks you my friend!
I had a grey 2006 LT1000 with the 18.5 HP motor
Mustie, I love your honesty about the valve caps for adjusting. You are real and it is appreciated.
Nice video! I had the 20hp model for 9 years and before selling it, I gave it a quick valve job, and cleaned up the head with new gaskets. I always used a synthetic oil and kept on eye on the air filter, which can clog pretty quick especially with cotton wood fluff. After 6 years it still runs great!
Burned valve seat. They were all flatheads when I worked @ Lawn mower shop now I'm 69 wow...Great job brother!.
I’m 73 and retired diesel mechanic but I’m owning a small engine shop and stay covered up, I’ve done a lot of both since I was raised in dad’s shop 😊
Great video! The intake pushrod is aluminum and the exhaust pushrod is steel to compensate for uneven expansion of the metals when the engine warms up. the intake pushrod also tends to wear at the guide plate and should be reversed if not replaced, they're cheap. Also, run the piston 1/4" past TDC to bypass the compression relief when adj. valves. Nice job!
That large gap in clamping force has been resolved in newer engines. And the aluminum vs steel pushrod is for heat. Aluminum for intake, steel for exhaust. Gauging lash should be done with some force to pull gauge out. Not loose but tight. Some drag is best. Rings wouldnt hurt but I've been there, done that. Expensive for my 445677 0476 e1 twin cylinder. Almost 40 a set. On Ebay, they ran up to 99 a set. Ridiculous but worth it when these engines run 1000 or more for new units. Got a new carb from China for it. It's so reliable that it cuts grass 3 ft high with little effort. I wish I had a shop that nice. I've got more tools than most people but I need a shop. Enjoy your mowing folks!
For us do-it-our-selfers, your site provides the inspiration! Love it & Thanks for taking the time to show us all of your tricks of the trade. Most enjoyable.
This by far the BEST CHANNEL on small engines and things like that, Mustie I went to Briggs and Stratton School in Memphis Tenn back in 1992 at a place called Engine Power Company, I will be 50 this year and man o man you have really taught me much much more, thanks Mustie, keep up the good videos and awsome work that you make so easy to understand!!!
Great video ! There is just one more step I would of taken after staking the valve seat back in place. I would of lapped the valve lightly with some lapping compound. After the compound is wiped off you can see where the valve is contacting the seat. Inspect the lapped area on the seat just to make sure the valve is making contact with the seat all the way around as there is a possibility that the seat is not in completely straight. Think of it this way. only by a slight chance are you going to get the seat back in the head at the exact same rotational position it was installed at the factory, the original position the valve seat was cut in. You only need to be a thou off here or there for the valve to not seat properly.
Now if the valve seat in the head looks good after lapping then check the valve. If the valve is bent even the slightest amount there then would be area where the seat on the valve is not polished looking from the compound. This overlooked step is one that does not take a lot of time and should not be overlooked. Keep up the great videos!
Dude I can sit and watch you all day, I'm one of those that has to watch the video 100 times just for a simple spark plug change LOL, but being able to see and watch someone else just makes things so much easier for me. I just started learning how to repair Small engine so all knowledge is good knowledge so thank you for your patience and taking the time to record !!!!!
Thanks Mustie for for all the great videos you've made. Been stuck to this channel.
Only 8 minutes into the vid and I'm learning TONS. When refitting the valve retaining collets, my Dad always used to hold them in place with a dab of thick grease before loosening the valve spring compressor - I didn't inherit his practical engineering abilities. It's a shame that you're not EVERYONE's neighbour!
He showed you the correct way 😊
If you take a socket and a hammer sometimes you can give the top of the valve spring a couple good whacks and the keeper will dislodge before the spring returns to it's normal shape. I've had great success with it before. Also, putting oil on the keeper before installation will help keep it in place when you go to install it.
Bought a non running 8HP Craftsman chipper for $50. Carb cleaned and headgasket blown. Purr's like a kitten. I still need to sharpen the two smaller blades and order the long single blade. I found pencils and some crap from mice. The longer blade had some large chips in it. Not a bad fix. Thanks for the video's and keep up the good work.
I enjoy watching you troubleshoot and fix these old things with go ol' ingenuity! I had a Craftsman mower with a 12hp engine that kept losing the valve seat too, so I used a punch to 'stake' it back in place... worked forever after that!
Hi there great job and like lots of others l spotted you forgot to install the caps for the valves before setting the gaps. This reminds me of me every time I do a job and try to reverse engineer the rebuild. It great to see guys like you have the same issues. Many thanks for the honesty and sharing. Kindest regards. Joe.
thanks for watching joe
I have never been mechanically minded but by watching your videos and your very enjoyable easy manner I am loving learning about engines and motors.... keep up the good work :O)
Yes Very True , Real Talk
I second that.
Own a 2000 Craftsman mower. A little older than that one. Had to do some repairs, even had the parts book. The parts they sent me were not what I ordered. They had alternative part nums. Most parts were not available any more. Got it fixed but it took some searching for parts. Love that mower. Even the wife can run it. It's been almost trouble free.
The reason they give for two different metal push rods is that the exhaust valve gets hotter than the intake valve which cools when the gas/air mix passes it. Apparently the different metals and different temps allow both push rods to expand the same amount.
No, but whatever you choose to think is fine...
It's usually a bean-counter decision to cheap out on some materials
> No, but whatever you choose to think is fine...
Is that a variation of "You're just wrong"?
@@LoganDark4357 just can't "put anything over" on you engineers, eh?
Nice explanation. Briggs & Strattons are great engines and designed flawlessly. mine lasted 17 years but just keeping her oiled up. It was an LT1000 with an Intek.
thank you so much your comments told me why my ride on has so much compression .old videos are valuable , your the man,
Awesome, informative video. Straightforward, to the point, without all the "filler bs" other guys put in because they have no substance. This entire video is very pertinent and useful. Thank you!!!!!!
Thanks for the top walk through. Our intek 17.0HP just threw a valve, was about to drag the mower to the scrap but I’ll think I’ll have a go at repairing it with a replacement head 👍🏻
I watched this video when it was uploaded. Funny how now I ended up with one of these mowers/engines to fix. Just my luck that the valves are fine in it. It has a connecting rod issue...well, half of a connecting rod and bunch of shrapnel.
Hi Mustie: It's fun going back and watching some old videos once in a while. I enjoyed this the first time and now am enjoying it again back in the old shop. Cheers, Steve
Excellent teacher and great work as always!!Great video.
Love your videos, and your ingenuity. When you were trying to tap the seat back into the block, it reminded me that I was taught to use the valve in place to keep the seat straight. Then use a socket about the same diameter as the valve face to gently tap it in. Only do this until the seat is started about halfway down. Then remove the valve and drive the seat in the rest of the way. The valve does a great job of keeping the seat aligned, but don't hit the valve too hard or it will break.
I know this is an older video, that said I want to thank you for saving me a lot of time diagnosing my 2004 Craftsman DLT 4000 that has this engine. Nothing as dramatic as yours, I've always looked for mouse nests etc before doing my seasonal PM. Now at 420+ hours, it wouldn't start when hot the other day. A minor valve adjustment and we're good to go again. Thanks for the great informative videos!
Having worked on my mowers for years without any training, it was nice to see my "intuition" was close on many things. My test was does it run (better) that when I started, if it did, it was a victory. B&S, Kohler, unmarked for Gravely and Troy-built (had to order parts from THEM) I kept them all running (and sharpened) by intuition, sweat, and an occasional drop of blood. Gave up all my equipment when we moved in-town, but makes me happy to watch your video and see someone with far more experience do things roughly the same as I did. Thanks.
When I was young (too many moons ago) I would repair neighbors mowers and things to have money for go kart and field cars parts and gas. (gas - 24 cents a gallon) It amazes me to see how different things are made now where most things you work on I have never seen apart. I suspect when your out cruising and see something sitting out for sale or free you have a good idea of what might be up and if it would be feasible to grab, even before coming to a stop!
pretty much, but now with youtube l look for things that would be interesting to film too
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I have the intek 21 series 12HP very very similar looking to this engine. My dad bought it in 2010 and still 2021 no blown gasket but I replaced it anyway for fun. Mainly the valve cover gasket was starting to leak oil and collect dirt and looked gross, I like my things spotless so that's why I opened up a lawn mower engine for the first time. Thanks for this video it was entertaining to watch. I gotta get myself a filler gauge for those exhaust/intake gaps.
Hey bud thanks alot for your videos my local mower repair dude tryed telling me that my ride on was not worth fixing and i should give it to him for 200 bucks after i paid 1000 for it only 2 weeks prior after this video i spend $13.50 on a gasket 10 bucks on a set of feelers and boom new mower ohhh ffffuuuccckkk yeah bud thanks alot
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My old craftsman had a bad valve seat, instead of just popping it back in i took it to an Aluminum welder had the valve hole filled in, then re-drilled it, so the seat wouldnt come back out, it only cost me $50.00..Mower was $150.00 repair was $50.00 sold it to brother for $250.00 ..it still runs!
Just minty my man
In the divorce settlement, the other spouse owed you a new bar, chain, internal sprocket, and ten cans of carburetor cleaner....plus whatever other parts were screwed.....!!!
Going through that now with a 3 wheeler i recently bought, has low compression and the guy at our local small engine repair said" better off getting a new one, ill give you hundred bucks for it" meanwhile I paid 700 in June . They think people are just going to give their stuff away. NOT THIS GUY
I LOVE YOUR EXPERTISE and your WITT ! You know what you're doing and you make it look EASY, and I know it ain't! And the gag-reel of bloopers at the end was the icing on the cake! Thank You!
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This happened to a friend of mine Briggs....I was winging it but first I did a comp test and wasn't sure if it was a bent valve or what.Then this is what I found.I popped it back in and didn't do the punch around the seat emboss.....but it still worked and lasted years.He paid me with a bunch of Farnicastaffs.
... Just started watching this video today, I like this guy presentation, none of this putting down the other video guys, straight up forward to the point on how to make old and unusable parts come back alive..
Great video, however in my small engine shop I lap that valve w/valve grinding compound prior to spring installation. That 3 minute procedure ensures a perfect seal and alignment of the valve face surfaces.
I was thinking the same thing, especially after seeing him doing the valve lapping on other engines...
Yeah, I was waiting to see him lap that valve
Your doing it right,Sir 😊
Had the exact same thing happen 16yrs ago to a craftsman self propelled push mower with a 5hp briggs ohv, a former friend gave it to me bc it wouldnt start. Took the head off, compressed the valve and knocked the seat back in. Thing ran for another 3yrs before upgrading to a rider. Watching this brought back some good memories.
Remember....when mowing, ignore obstructions. Drive straight ahead and only stop when then the mower stops.
exactly what my neighbor did when he borrowed my lawnmower.
Yea speaking of neiabors after they borrowed my lawnmower I went to mow and I just heard my deck drive belt slipping and I wondered why. So I looked under the deck and saw a bunch of stuff on the blades. And once I got a closer look their were 8 garbage bags on the blades and they were on all 3 blades. And to make it worse they put a huge scratch in the side and busted the deck discharge plastic. Needless to say that was the last time I let them use it.
Tyler's Neighborhood Garage That's what is taught at the School of Lawn $ Garden Equipment Abuse! LOL
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Riding lawn tractors are something that people with push-mowers always want to barrow. I hate being rude to people so I take it easy on them and just politely tell them to FUCK OFF!!
I hear your voice and I see the actor Allen Alda, you sound so much like him. That is why your videos are so good and soothing when you explain what you are doing. I have seen many of your videos, they are good, interesting and I have learned a lot. I think I can tackle my lawn tractor thanks to you. I will make a comment back to you in the future when I get the tractor to run. Thanks for you help and education. I really enjoy your videos.
From Italy with affection
Thank you for having shared your knowledge and passion
Sorry if my english is not perfect
Not to worry! What you said makes perfect sense, and it was all spelled correctly.
I took small engine repair while in high school, and we had a blast bringing lawn mower engines back to life, I wonder what our teacher did with all the good running engines we worked on. We were able to work on a couple lawn tractor engines and cut the grass at the place, and I heard those tractors were used for many years after we rebuilt the engines.. It was a totally cool class!!
I also took a small engines shop in highschool . Normally what they always did was rotate the engines and then have the next class tear them back down for being rebuilt. If you were at the top in your class you got to take the engines home.
Well done Bud!! I use the same Shop Band-Aids!! Once in a while I use the black ones!!☺
Right! Scrap of paper towel, black electrical tape, and keep on keepin' on!
Thank you Mustie 1. This 3 year old video helped me diagnose and repair a mower recently. It was put to the curb with a sign : RUNS, SORT OF. It started and ran ok for a few minutes, then would begin to stumble and lose power. Because I had watched this, I knew about loose valve seats. Sure enough, when I pulled the head, the exhaust valve seat was sitting cockeyed. Tapped it back in, dimple peened around it, runs fine now. You have the best man-channel on TH-cam.
Gotta love a guy who believes that blue painters tape make a great bandaid! Having spent years in a machine shop and walking around with me and the guys with oily rags and blue tape around Injuries makes me feel right at home
I've always used black tape myself.
How I wish to have known of your video's a year earlier! It took my mechanic a whole lot of expensive (!!) investigation hours to finally discover a dislodged valve seat in my 3 cyl Mitsubishi engine. "This never happens", he said. "I didn't go look for it because it seemed to me the less likely thing".
Right. Had to pay him nearly 2000 dollars......
Great video's Mr Mustie! Thnx
a little dab of grease will hold them keepers in place and make it a lot easier, pulse if you do happen to drop them they stick to the bench and not bounce to the magic hole in your shop. ;)
AAAAAAMEN !!!!
I thought I was the only one with a magic shop hole! LOL
Grease is like magic holder. Especially if you have had to repack needle bearings.
Good comment!
In my broke days when I had limited tools I used grease MANY TIMES on a yard stick or screwdriver to retrieve, a bolt..
Next time use small sockets under valve spring clam to valve spring that will get much more clearance, but be careful not to push it in too much 50 years of an engine working for me love to watch. Also great humanism showing miss happenings that mostly happen to every one of us, Great for good chuckle!
I like the out takes at the end. And, yes, I did catch that you forgot the valve stem caps on re-assembly, but I did not say anything out loud - wanted to see how long it took you to realize the booboo . Mustie, you make these repairs look so easy - if I had half of your skills ....
Always a pleasure watching your videos !
this repair was easy though. Most of the repairs on the channel are just neglect based, and are easy to fix. That's what makes this channel gold though, he's showing you how easy it is to fix your junk.
I know not a lot about engines but I’m fascinated by the way you explain things great entertainment 🇬🇧
Interesting range of videos and repairs! You could have put the seat in the freezer over night and warmed the head up in an oven then popped the seat in a lot easier with a 'socket' type drift.
JJ Mac some pressurized CO2 would also do the trick. Stick the part in a welding glove with the hose end inside and let it run a bit.
I came to comment the exact same thing and of course it's already been said. Used to do the same thing many years ago putting steel roller bearings into alloy housings, half the time you'd barely have to tap the bearing to seat it home.
That said, I'm not sure I'd want to heat cycle any cylinder head to any great degree without it being clamped to its cylinder block - I'm thinking perhaps it could warp a tad then not seat right when reassembled. I never tried that specifically, so just spit balling concerns.
The point of the failure being:
The head had already overheated, expanded, and dropped the seat. Not much interference fit left to be enhanced by thermal expansion/contraction of the individual parts for reassembly. Judiciously coax the seat in to full purchase, and "punch" the surrounding head material around the seat to grasp it as best as one can.
Nice fix. I didn't know you could put the valve seat back in the head. I learned something today. Great video. Thanks for producing these informative videos.
Note to self, if you use a sharp pointed punch and make some punch marks around inside the hole along the sides it will help hold them in also it just make it a little harder to get them back in but when the motor gets hot again they have a better chance of staying in place..
Great Video’s Mustie, bingeing on your projects as I recover from surgery. Thanks for the quality subject matter and sharing your extensive knowledge. Thanks so much for the extra work so we have interesting films to watch.
Take care and may the free piles treat you well!
I was freaking out seeing you forget the rockers, then you remembered and all was well again haha.
I've found that a soda blaster works fantastic for cleaning up heads and other misc small engine parts. I got one cheap for about $120 at harbor freight. One of my favorite tools
He makes the most complicated stuff look so simple.
Watching your video's, these are extremely informative on small engine repairs,,the things I know very little about, thanks for the lessons. Seeing your different videos on repairs to a wide variety of modern mechanical marvels is a pleasant way to enjoy some downtime. Thanks
You're making some quality videos, there. And highly educational, too! I really enjoy watching them. Your channel is my new addiction😎...The 'blooper reel' add-on is a nice touch. Already looking forward to the next one. All the best from the Netherlands🇳🇱
Hey! Those of us who watched this mower start ti finish deserved to see the finished product!
Terrific video. You're an excellent teacher.
THAT is why I subbed. I learn stuff,here.
Your diagnosis of the problem was right on point. I have a sneaking suspicion that you've done this kind of thing before.
it'd be awesome to start a apprenticeship with mustie. it would be so great to know all of this stuff and learn it hands on.
I doubt it
@TheJR1948 Yeah right...What an asshole comment.
Love watching your videos and bring engines back to life. Really sad how Americans don't fix much stuff anymore and just throw it away to buy a new one
Dood, as a guy who works on computers (and guns in my free time), I love watching your videos. This is the kind of stuff I wish I knew.
Good luck its not that hard once you get on it
You found the valve caps before starting so no worries. Easily done. Briggs and Stratton should do oversize exhaust valve seats so the head could be machined out and oversize seats pressed in. Valve seat tool bowed out normally due to overcoming tension in valve keepers, we call them collets in Uk. Tip take initial tension with valve spring compression tool and tap with bronze hammer on valve cap end tool, just enough o break the lock. It’s just a light tap and keeps now released carry on winding and not not bending the tool. Works on lawn mowers to trucks I mean triple axle articulated trucks.
I love the 405 thumbs down from the folks that gave their "broken" mowers away.
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Mustie1, your videos are absolutely the very best engine repair constructional ever produced.
Great video as usual. I am not a mechanic; I was wondering when valve grinding into the seat is indicated. Thanks
So appreciate your videos and the time you take to present these.. On a personal note I learned to stop swearing when I'm working which is most times is alone.. I pretend I'm making a video... Miracles occur in strange ways at times.
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just so happens...in my horde. ..I have a brand new one...Love it!!#
Thank you mustie I suffer from PTSD and I use to do what you do but the last 10 years has been really bad dealing with my issues I watched you all the time in the past now I'm back I know it sounds funny but your videos help me in a way to deal with my situation
If the old gasket is not blown/worn down and looks good you can reuse it. An old military trick learned in war when head gaskets were depleted for planes is to paint the old gasket with aluminum or silver paint which when it heats up helps seal the old gasket. I recently tried this on an old Kohler head gasket. So far works fine.
Just watched your video on the new car lift. Nice job on the assembly of it. This is a nice addition to your shop and no more working on your back or knees lol .were getting to old for that.
That bent blade is for making crop circles!
SPRING LAUNCH !!
Great channel man, my craftsman was leaking oil like a sieve on the bottom end, had to retorque all the main bolts. Still leaks on the top end, probably the head gasket. Mine is a tecumseh 12hp from 1990. Also its way past its valve gap check, so I got to fix that too.
I also think you're a great channel because you show that its not too hard really to FIX STUFF. Cant believe what you find at yardsales and stuff.
This guy does such fun and interesting projects.
You are so modest. Keep on wrenching! Hope you get new tools in your stocking!
better than watching a perry mason show....solved it in less than a hour. awesome job.
LOL. Only bad thing is Della Street is not helping him solve the case.
I have this exact mower I got for free, but it's branded Poulan Pro, it didn't run because of the anti backfire module in float bowl....I simply disabled it... been mowing with it 2 years now. Though this vid gives me an idea of its engine and what could fail... nice to know. Thanks.
Use a socket the size of the valve seat with an extension. Hold socket square on top of seat and tap the extension with hammer.
use a blowtorch to expand the head first..... valve seat in the freezer..
I love the electrician tape on the finger !!! My dad who was a master mechanic over 50 years showed me that in 1964 when I was 7 . And blue my favorite color!!!!
i take a piece of sandpaper and wrap it on my thumb and finger and tape it up.....to push springs in guns... works everytime... otherwise i cant stand the pain... the sandpaper is tough and provides finger protection..
good tip
Seem that heating up the head to replace the seat would have been a good idea.
Same deal with a Briggs valve seat on a borrowed small water pump on the beach at Nome Alaska in '05. Only tools were a cheap socket set found a few days earlier while driving an ATV on the beach. Gaskets were good, seat good and I carefully cleaned 'stuff' with gasoline. Seat went back in A-OK but no hammer or punch. Rock and a found 16d nail got the punching done.
There's your problem lady... ;)
Anyone ever notice that valve spring compressors never seem to be "quite" right for the task at hand. It's almost they design the damn things for 1 specific engine but tell you its "universal"...
Universal tools are the worst.. I'm looking at you, universal 2/3 jaw flywheel and pulley puller..
The main problem is that no one has the Universal Motor the tools were made for ....
Sounds like an Eric O. quote from South Main Auto.
In the 60s my neighbor had a big push mower...when I got a house in 1986 I went push power too but could never find one as big and nice as my neighbor's mower. I had a Craftsman push-edger too. Lots of work but good exercise.
Another very interesting vid. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video. This same thing happened to a Cub Cadet and I was able to fix it right in the barn yard. You hate to work like that but you do what you gotta do.
I removed the keepers like that once. Takes incredible amount of hand strength. I'm now to old to do it that way.
I do not think small engine valve springs have a lot of tension to them.
Really
@@1pcfred no they don't. U can do it by hand. Cars and trucks u need a spring compressor.. not to correct you. But for my 45 yr old hands they aren't too baf.. baf.. lol baaaaaaaaaaahf
Ty for the learning experience. Would love more details and specifics about the fine tuning process.
A blopper real at the end... Classic Jackie Chan... LMAO... That's why you have the best channel you admit when your wrong and show us too, keep the videos coming.
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I wasn't going to say anything, but I didn't see you put those valve buttons back on....LOL. Also when you asked what we thought about the blade, I thought it looked ok if you were going to plow the garden and then you said it had a little bit of a roto-tiller thing going on....WOW...great minds do think alike....love your videos.
I loved this one. I like the small engine videos.
I'm running out of places to keep equipment. Got my first John Deere 318 1986 running yesterday. Thanks Mustie1..