Is My Lumix GX8 & Olympus 17mm f1.8 Is Still relevant in 2021/22?

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  • @sdhute
    @sdhute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use the oly 17mm as my primary lens on my g9. M43 needs to be experienced.

    • @walterzannoni
      @walterzannoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. AF is well? Better than 20mm Lumix?

    • @davebellamy4867
      @davebellamy4867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's become the main lens on my OMD EM10II. Gorgeous and small. Sharp and conteasty images. Lovely out of focus background too. The 14-42 EZ s always seem to break.

  • @robertromanelli9425
    @robertromanelli9425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The GX8 is one of my all-time favorite cameras. It’s always good to hear someone singing its praises, especially if that someone is very experienced in photography. I think the more you use the GX8, the more you’ll like it. It is not only very capable but a lot of fun! And yes, this camera really is relevant even in 2021. In closing, thank you Brian for posting yet another informative and enjoyable video. Subscribed.

  • @andreasrochow5170
    @andreasrochow5170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My oly 17 mm is on its way from Hongkong China to Europa. My two "nines" are prepared for the perfect normal view, after judging the Sigma 19 mm f2.8 as too narrow and its AF-speed as too slow. The Pergear 12 mm f2.0 offers the ideal focal length for M4/3, but unfortunately has no autofocus. The sharpest images are obtained by deactivating the in camera O.I.S. You will need both the 17 mm and the 12 mm to be able to select the appropriate image section. Pure joy to use it with the Lumix GX and the G! Your Lumix GX8 is a standout , versatile and sophisticated camera that will last a long time if you manage shutter shock by "stabilizing off". Thank you for your beautiful pictures.

  • @abchappell01
    @abchappell01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a wonderful discussion, I am now going to charge the battery in my LUMIX GX8 and go outside to take some photos. I am also subscribing to your channel right now. :)

  • @philballou7387
    @philballou7387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks, Brian, for driving up used GX8 prices, lol! I just bought a used silver one from B&H Photo with their condition rating of 9. It turns out to have had only 260 shutter counts, can hardly tell it from new. I paired it with the Zuiko 12-45 f/4.0 Pro, which makes for a very nicely balanced splash-resistant package. The look and feel are outstanding, and there is nothing wrong with the images either. I also have the G9, which I love, but I think this GX8 is a keeper too.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. Yes, mine is definitely staying

  • @korben4340
    @korben4340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:55 folks
    thanks for the rundown and all your other m43 info on the channel, great stuff
    seriously eyeing a used one with the 12-32mm I believe
    killer feature even without having tried it IRL is the weather sealing, crucial in this part of the planet

  • @afallfromgrace
    @afallfromgrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just bought this lens, love it. Never really done candid but I'm tempted now.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see me using it a lot now.

    • @afallfromgrace
      @afallfromgrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatMicro43Guy Absolutely, I'm running it in aperture priority and keeping it wide open, haven't noticed any issues :)

  • @mart872uk
    @mart872uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoying your videos. Thank you .

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got 2 GX-8s for video. They will do 4K (on the AC adapter) video until they fill the SD card and never overheat. My primary primary is the Leica 15mm f1.7.

    • @zulfikarwijaya-albatuni
      @zulfikarwijaya-albatuni 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hear GX8 IBIS not working in video mode, is that true?

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @zulfikarwijaya-albatuni 99% of my videos as static shots, so I looked in the manual. Panasonic turns ibis off in 4k mode because it is noisey. And likely the processor can't keep up.

  • @ulfjonsson2122
    @ulfjonsson2122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mojo feel is probably more in you than the camera. Nice video.

  • @trevorfentiman5283
    @trevorfentiman5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nicely put together and explained, it’s surprising what you can get from an older model if you know what you are doing, I use an old Fuji xt1 which a lot would say has had its day but like you it’s good enough when I brought it and still is

    • @SarahJaeckel
      @SarahJaeckel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm absolute with you. The X-T1 is my first APS-C, I'm a microforthirds-girl... and I really love this camera. Everything feels just right with it, all the dials are where they should be - and the colours are magic

  • @eldorado5650
    @eldorado5650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from NZ! I have just found your channel and have just subscribed as I like your insights. I watched this whole 27-something minute video but it didn't feel that long because my brain was listening.
    I am going to binge your videos now. Cheers!

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the channel. Now there is a country which has some amazing photo locations. I have friends living down there and they say the scenery is amazing.

    • @eldorado5650
      @eldorado5650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatMicro43Guy Thank you. Yes, especially in the South Island, where almost everything man-made is almost made to compliment the reserves/nature. Here in the North Island, the reserves are really good for the sceneries, with a bit of hiking, of course.
      I admire the photos that my photo friends from the UK publish, too. They live on the countryside and I like how they wait for those cloud breaks to capture drama. Cheers.

  • @johnleonard458
    @johnleonard458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Brian , I too have just purchased a GX8 from MPB ,they are great to buy and sell ,
    only 70 shots on checking ! I have used a lumix14-42PZ and a Lumix 45-150 ,can't fault the image quality

  • @SarahJaeckel
    @SarahJaeckel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for reviewing these "older" gems. I actually use a G9 for my main purpose but own also a G7 (and an X-T1 which is a different kind of love :-)
    I think it's time to get off the newerbetterhigher ratrace, these cameras were great a few years ago - why should they suddenly be crap overnight?
    Nobody would dare to question if a 1930ies Leica is a great camera, even if it won't hold up against a 1960ies consumer model by the numbers.
    So let's go reasonable again! There's absolutely no need for a 100mp monster Fuji middle format for every shoot....

  • @jeffslade1892
    @jeffslade1892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The lenses are mix and match but as you observed there are some differences in the way the back handles them. The camera firmware has a 'look-up table' for the lenses. The trick with a Lumix lens on an Olympus back is to ensure the Lumix lens has been updated on the the Olympus camera. This sorts out correction and focussing foibles. Most of the MFT lenses will already be in the look-up tables but maybe not the latest version, even if the lens has been updated (on a Lumix back). Updating Lumix and Olympus is different. On Lumix the file is copied to the SD card. On Olympus a computer application is used (Olympus Camera Updater). The majority of my lenses are Lumix but I assume the reverse is true.
    If the lens is not in the look-up then the exif will report 'unknown lens', such as most adapted lenses. If we look deep into the exif of the Lumix pancake 20mm f/1.7 we find it is actually a Leica. The other discreet pancake to check out is the Lumix GX PZ14-42 which is far better than the Olympus EZ14-42 in operation, it's also an 'X' lens.
    For a VLog camera check out the Lumix G7 which are going dirt cheap used now; it's something they do really well.

  • @ecamormex
    @ecamormex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have GAS. I own 11 cameras, including my new iPhone. It's been about two years since I've bought a new camera and I've got the itch. I admit, I don't go out to shoot as much as I'd like now, since I've had to take care of my mother and due to lockdown in the last couple of years. I'm looking into trying my first micro 4/3 camera so I can walk around with it. We'll see where I land.

  • @snugsonblitz
    @snugsonblitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those car pics - fantastic

  • @mawavoy
    @mawavoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brian, just watched two of your posts. They were both informative and straightforward. I have subscribed.

  • @keithwilkinson8310
    @keithwilkinson8310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian, thanks for a very informative and useful video on the GX8. I have an EM1-II and an EPL7 that I have had for several years. I like both. The EPL7 is unobtrusive and really convenient to carry around but I miss having a viewfinder and I think it might be near the end of its life. The replacement EPL9 EPL10 seem to have hardly any advantages over the EPL7 and many facilities that I use, like MySets have actually been removed. After watching your video I liked the look of the GX8. Its view finder, screen and weather sealing are particularly attractive but good ones seem hard to find. So I had a look at its replacement the GX9 - what a disappointment. The GX9 has no weather sealing and the screen cannot swing forward. Lumix seems to have gone the same direction as Olynpus and dumbed-down their entry-level cameras. If the GX9 had included the same facilities as the GX8 that it replaced I would probably have bought one, possibly new. Ha well. I shall keep on looking for a decent second-user GX8. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscribe to your channel.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comments Keith. As I said in the video it is actually larger than my olympus EM1 but I like the 'rangefinder' type form factor. One thing I didnt mention about the GX8 compared to the GX7 & GX9 is the viewfinder is oriented toward 4:3 stills shooting as its default image and it crops down to the 16:9 on video. I believe the others start with a 16:9 image and crop the sides for the 4:3. As I'm primarily a stills shooter I think this gives the GX8 a big advantage.

  • @bhamerlik
    @bhamerlik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Brian, I´ve enjoyed this video very much and subscribed to your channel right away :)

  • @MrFirstdance2000
    @MrFirstdance2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your point of view with your shot c choices! Thank you for explaining what you're seeing, the post technique's you apply and, the time it took to edit this. Cup of coffee headed your way compliments of initials S.B.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind words and much appreciated.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a big cup of coffee. Very appreciated. Thank you

  • @LennyG2006
    @LennyG2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My GX8 is one of my favourite cameras to use. I just wish the GX9 had been weatherproof, but that's another story. Watch out for shutter shock though - there are workarounds for it.

  • @ulfjonsson2122
    @ulfjonsson2122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely relevant in aug. 2022! Coming classics are: Olympus 12/2, 15/8, 17/1,8, 25/1,8, 45/1,8 & 75/1,8! / Regards

  • @Hannemanneke
    @Hannemanneke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for the review of this lens Brian 👍👍
    I’m looking for a lens on my Oly E-M10 and thinking of something from 15 to 20mm. So this lens can be a choice for me.
    You talked about the colors and that they are (almost) as in real time. So they are great and do not need (much) editing.
    I know this is important for a lens.
    But isn’t it also because the camera performs well?
    I can imagine the sensor and software in the body are important too.
    So is it possible this lens will perform different on another brand body?

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent point, yes, you are right it will. All the Lumix/Olympus lenses are adjusted in the camera and the lens to a degree by a profile in the camera/lens firmware to take into account things such as distortions, vignetting and colours etc. but a good lens is going to have less adjustment. Prime lenses are much easier to cater for than a zoom but no lens is perfect, all have their shortfalls.
      It’s worth checking out Robin Wongs review of this lens, he’s not so keen as I am so it’s worth getting another view.
      But even with that, I love this lens still. I use it a lot and for the price I still think it’s excellent. And perhaps, most importantly I’d buy one again if anything happened to this one.

  • @TheMoparian
    @TheMoparian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also picked up this camera second hand! Its in good condition and came with its original 25mm lens. Besides this lens, what else would you recommend for video of showing off cars and small things like lego? And also vlogs and such.

  • @Brianuyahoo
    @Brianuyahoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice!
    I’ve got a GX8 and I love it.. although there are things that you have to “learn how to live with”!
    That’s a beautiful lens! I have the Lumix 20mm f/1.7 .. and it would be a fun comparison.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I also have the 25mm1.7 lumix. I think the 20mm is a great lens too, I used one for a while and it’s of better build quality than my 25..
      There are so many great primes for mft even just using the big two manufacturers from 12mm to 75mm. My overall favourites are the 45mm Olympus and the 42.5 Panasonic as I shoot a lot of portraits

    • @Brianuyahoo
      @Brianuyahoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatMicro43Guy I got the 20mm lens because it’s a tiny “pancake” len and I like it that it’s a bit wider than the 25mm. :)

    • @SarahJaeckel
      @SarahJaeckel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatMicro43Guy I like my 1.7 25mm Lumix, but somehow it misses character. As I prefer to shoot manual in most occasions, I started to try several cheap and cheerful Chinese glass...

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarahJaeckel I must admit, the manual clutch ring on my 17mm Olympus makes manual focusing a treat. The endless focusing rings are probably the thing I like least about M43 lenses

    • @SarahJaeckel
      @SarahJaeckel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatMicro43Guy Same thing with the XBC lenses from Fuji. I hate it. My personally preferred lenses are my cinema lenses... especially the Meike 25mm on my G9 ist astonishing, even more given the price tag of around 110 Euro...

  • @HumanClouds
    @HumanClouds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review, thanks!

  • @rosscrichton8584
    @rosscrichton8584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Danke!

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Vielen Dank für deine Unterstützung

  • @williamstatt8651
    @williamstatt8651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one of these in April 2022. May 15, I looked at it on the floor next to my chair and I saw the "dreaded" ring adjuster setting next to the camera on the floor. I took it to a phone repair shop thinking that they knew a lot about glues and could possibly glue it on. They had to take it to the manager. He told me that they did not have the glue that I would have to use. He told me to go and get some 'super glue'. Well I got the gel formula, but even then, the drops were too big to get just into the groove so I would not glue the shutter button too. I used a toothpick to just touch a spot of glue into the groove. Everyone knows that a spot of glue is about 50% smaller than a drop. I pushed it on, held it for 30 seconds while holding my breath. Then, the test. It turned and the shutter button worked. I don't know what would have happened if I had lost it in the woods. BTW, without the ring, is the camera still water proof. Also, BTW, with the ring, is the camera water proof. I looks like water could easily get under the ring and into the camera. Good vids BTW.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I believe the water sealing lies below the ring around the shaft inside

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve learned something today in the relative sizes between a drop and a spot thank you. This falls in line with my theory about Rich Tea and Digestive biscuits. A Rich Tea has around 120 calories but a crumb has well less than 1, effectively it has no calories. Since a crumb (an internationally recognised measure) is a piece of broken biscuit then breaking a full Rich Tea in half produces two large ‘crumbs’. As we have established a crumb has 0 calories and if we add the two crumbs together 0+0 then we get zero calories…….which is why I’ve remained so slim all these years lol

  • @DamianBrown
    @DamianBrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did the GX8 ever get 4K live cropping? Got my eye on a second hand one and think it might go well with my GX80

  • @richardschrader6011
    @richardschrader6011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed the pics,,,,What are your typical picture profile settings

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  ปีที่แล้ว

      On the GX8 for general stills I normally shoot vivid, aperture priority, multi metering, auto iso

    • @richardschrader6011
      @richardschrader6011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatMicro43Guy thanks for the prompt response,,,so no changes within vivid itself…cool..,,the pictures are so so sharp,,just got the gx8,,,so am now workin on getting the 17 1.8 ,,,

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardschrader6011 all I do is a little exposure and contrast balancing in lightroom

  • @everfor9234
    @everfor9234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely presented. Thanks

  • @robertorraya
    @robertorraya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I have a question, if I use that lens on my Lumix camera, can I use the manual and automatic focus as if I were using any Lumix lens?

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can in an identical way. The advantage on this lens is the manual clutch on the lens by sliding the focus ring backwards and forwards allows easy switching between MF & AF just as it would on Olympus cameras. It’s so easy.

  • @stumcp367
    @stumcp367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Brian another interesting video. Would be interested in how the front dial issue is resolved as I have the same problem. As you say dial still works with some difficulty. would be good to have cover replaced but can't seem to find one.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve not had it fixed, we came to a price reduction arrangement. When the shops reopen I’ll ask at my dealers about a replacement dial. If I get it sorted I’ll make a video

  • @humbertopool8836
    @humbertopool8836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I'v a GX8, is excellent but I think that when use lenses not stabilized the result is like a earthquake. All the frame moves. Question, is a problem of my camera or all GX8 have the same?

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately it’s the GX8. I cover it in my 14mm f2.5 video. But the GX8 is one of the earlier dual IS cameras from lumix and not as good on that front as later ones

  • @Widepartini
    @Widepartini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Brian,
    Thanks very much for your informative Blogs. May I ask a favour? I've just bought a used PEN E-PL7 and I can't load the set up software on my Apple Mac using Sur 64 bit OS. I've found the Olympus web-site confusing and can't seem to find out if there is an upgrade or not. Would you be able to shine a light on this for me? Many thanks in anticipation.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be honest, I wouldn't know where to look or what to look for as I don't use a mac or a PEN either. However, most updates including firmware seem to be done through the Olympus Workspace program which I have found here support.olympus-imaging.com/owdownload/
      Best wishes and good luck

    • @Widepartini
      @Widepartini 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatMicro43Guy Thanks Brian.for the useful pointers. All the best.

  • @Rotfuchsiii
    @Rotfuchsiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would prefer the sigma 16mm 1.4.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would too.......if it matched the price and weight of these ones lol

  • @martywild6359
    @martywild6359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That footpath shot would look great in b/w.

  • @AlanHouser
    @AlanHouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: that you know of, are there differences between a US and UK GX8? MPB sold mine to someone else! I had it locked on a trade-in quote and they sent it elsewhere. 😡😡🤬🤬
    Now I’m staring at TEN (10) GX8’s on the MPB UK site, and questioning support - demanding they send me one of those. (Rocket science it’s not)

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I know imports whether new or used are not supported in different countries. There are often different specs for things like recording times on video modes too. They usually have a different model number and can also be identified by their serial number. Your call I’m afraid.

    • @AlanHouser
      @AlanHouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatMicro43Guy thanks so much! I have a GX85 on hold, but sticking to the GX8!

  • @seanmangan2769
    @seanmangan2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That 17mm seems much like my Lumix 20mn F/1.7.

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are very similar. I find that the Olympus and the lumix are situated between each other’s ranges with lumix having the 12,15, 20 & 25 and oly having the 12, 17 & 25
      . you really need to make a choice which way to go as they are so close to each other’s to not make buying all cost effective but far enough apart in focal length to be important.
      If I’d gone down the lumix route I would have stuck with that as it is. Having the oly make the lumix a poor choice for me purely on focal length choice not quality.
      All good lenses in my opinion

  • @mrchandi8062
    @mrchandi8062 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hlo sir. I am from English rose

    • @ThatMicro43Guy
      @ThatMicro43Guy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello my friend and thank you so much for making me welcome at the English Rose cafe in the past three weeks I’ve been in Cyprus. Best wishes. Brian

  • @rayharris7909
    @rayharris7909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No