Gwen, you are a champion. That’s the word Colleen used to describe you the other day when she did a live on Instagram. I think it fits because you’re so consistent and precise with everything you do. I admire how nothing you do is half-hearted, and you are so in tune with your body and your running. Great video :)
Really like the Jerry method of tracking. I average 40-50 miles per week during marathon season and 20-30 during triathlon season. "Listening to your body," is excellent advice especially as you get older. BTW, love the Rudy Project glasses....
Thanks for giving an inside look on how you track your mileage! You make a lot of great points in regards to preventing injury! I would love it if you could share your journaling process! I love the videos! They have helped motivate me in this strange new "normal". Stay healthy!
Hi! This is so encouraging. I love keeping track of my miles, especially in the summer. I am currently doing 40-43 miles a week right now. Hoping to build up to 50 by August.
100% agree with the adage of not getting wrapped up in trying to hit a specific number of miles but rather focusing on the overall effect trying to be accomplished with the training during a given period and letting the miles appropriately match the desired stimulus.
I'm definitely a believer in listening to your body. Take a day off when needed. When you work. Work!! Gwen you are a Champion in and out of competition!!
I always give myself ranges. Like 8-10 for an easy run, it might be that you don't feel too great during the run and cut it a bit. Each day will vary just a little, but by the end of the week the range can be as much as 10 or so. Say 65-75, just because you hit 65 doesn't mean you didn't do everything you needed to. I have no more than 2 days a week of doubles and one rest day or a day that is 4 or less miles that is on Sunday which is after my long run on Saturday. I like waking up and deciding whether I should shakeout or not. That's my favorite part of the week.
Great cinematography as always from Patrick. This is the one of the best videos. Were all hung up on time milage enjoy listening to your views on this subject and comparing the two sports.
I like the way you keep track of your mileage.I think what you said about listening to your body couldn't be more true to prevent injury.I have a history of injury caused by hard training that was solved by changing the way I saw training
Thanks for the video...I found that really interesting as a way of tracking and something I’ve never heard of before. I was wondering how you judge the intensity of your runs? Do you just go by feel or use pace? I really struggle to make my easy runs easy enough!
Hello Gwen , i'm from Belgium , i count by kilometers , i do around 50 km/week . other than total kilometers i count Intesity Points based on a simplification of Daniels' Running Formula where i will do a ponderation with x0.2 points per minute of E running, x0.4 points per minute at M pace, x0.6 points per minute at T pace, x1.0 point per minute at I pace, and x1.5 points per minute at R pace.
Great insights as usual Gwen. I think it's fairly obvious that Jerry miles are a tool that coaches resorted to back when they only had their stopwatch outside a track and it was hard if not impossible to calculate actual mileage. The method became outdated with GPS watches, but it obviously holds emotional value for for athletes, and helps with not being fixated with mileage, so it's still a winner.
I track both 'mileage' (although my watch splits in kms because I feel it's more relatable to most race distances) and time but time is the more important metric for me. I feel like the body 'understands' time spent at an effort level rather than distance covered, so is more valuable for determining the training load I can handle. I also like to track rpe and keep an eye on what my rpe for all my weekly training is, and compare that to the average of the preceding 4 weeks. I love the glasses btw!
I switched to 9 day weeks about 2yrs ago. I give myself permission to switch workouts on the 3rd day. I can be too sore for hard intervals or long runs, but tempo tempo tempo isn't a bad default 😇
Good points about listening to your body. I am 65 years old and still running. You can run and race for a long time if one is careful and in tune with one's self.
Great insight Gwen! With all the math, it's good you're an accountant 😊 Since Gerry miles = time, why not just use the time from your watch? My coach has me use time vs miles.
Interesting to hear how people log miles.... and how many do it differently...! I've never logged w-up miles, jogs between intervals or warm downs... so I guess I've run a bit further than I think lol !! I only ever log the working miles/reps etc... most I've logged in a wk is 60 miles...
Hi, thank you great video! I personally do track miles according to GPS (usually between 70 to 80 miles, so 110-120KM), but still take easy days on time on feet, so e.g. 60 minutes easy. I would be curious on how you structure your typical training week if you are not racing (so when you have workouts, when you double, when you do a Long run etc.) Thank you and greetings from Austria, Europe, Teri
especially in the mtn's and hilly areas, I go by time. For example, a long run day, I go out an hour and a half and return. The total mileage is still important, but not the primary focus. Mtn's and hills make a big difference on long run days. For example, sometimes a hilly course will get you four mileages, sometimes seven miles but the effort is the same. So I go by time, the ego can handle it better...lol....btw...still log both.
Very informative. A great video. Two quick questions: does your Jerry mileage get closer actual mileage during marathon preparation? And is your total weekly mileage of workouts set as a fraction of the Jerry miles, e.g., 20% of Jerry miles?
What were your total training hours for all disciplines when you were training for triathlon and do you think your running benefited from cycling and swimming?
My GPS showed I dropped 1,000 feet in elevation in a quarter mile distance.... not true. It was more like 9 feet LOL! So yeah, I'm also basing my runs on time spent running rather than distance covered since it's currently about 15% off compared to actual distance when measured on exact starting and ending point. I like this Jerry-Miles approach.
I didnt start running till college , lol for cross country , I track it threw GPs. Rate now running about 55 km a week , adding a extra km to my runs once a week.
I was always fixated on the number of miles per week, but I've slowly converted to minutes over the last few years. But now I'm more fascinated by the amount of time per HR zone. To me, it gives a clearer picture of an individual training load. Do you focus on HR at all or more by perceived exertion?
In training for a trail marathon I was hitting 50 miles of "GPS miles" plus commuter miles in cross training. I recall reading somewhere about the diminishing return of benefits of increasing the mileage beyond 50 per week. But in practise it could be an age thing or having reached my peak (and oh so average) genetic fitness level...
I have run over 130,000 miles....as a 64 year old I say don’t do that....instead focus on a program of improving your race goals thru speed, tempo and aerobic endurance with plenty of rest.
have you done over 130.ooo miles?! are u a pro?! did you eat about 2800cal per day? how u manage this with knees,heart,and how much protein digestion? ultra running is hard for body. i hope u are always good!
Hi Gwen! Does the concept of Jerry Miles still apply if you're running slower than 8 minutes/mile? Should you apply your own mile time to make this fit? Thanks!
I am doing right now a aerobic base, i start with 65 miles a week, and on a period of 3 months i will complete 100 miles , then stay in 75 to 90 in strength base ...
I hit almost (49.6) 50 miles for the first time ever in a week in February in GPS miles training for a marathon that was cancelled. In Jerry miles it'd be a lot more because I'm slow...rough math is 70+ I think.
Hello you guys, always nice video! how are you doing during this coronavirus? gwen are you thinking of running any marathon this year? after all of these finish? i am running chicago this year in october and i hope not get cancelled! kostas from new york, that we took a picture together in marathon expo 2018 :) stay safe!
If it makes it easier for you to answer this common question, then you could plot the values and make a histogram. Then, you could tell people the average and standard deviation of your distribution (e.g., 85 miles w/ a std dev of 8). If there seems to be a bimodal (aka two distinct) distributions based on race weeks vs non-race weeks, then simply report two distributions. I like your take-aways.
Chris Tanner wow that’s sounds like a lot of work especially when each week is so diff. Some days I run over 8 min pace some days under 7 just depends on where I am
you are elite athlete, i admire a lot your skills, i suggest to all elite athletes to try to do some bussiness parallel to their activities, because top results may be unhealthy, especially in long run. like stallone,swazthceneger, or just coaching, weight loss etc
Why would you refuse to see the distance on your GPS watch and instead calculate the distance by time? And what's this obsession with miles? Distance is measured in km!
DOWN TOWN that’s what they were called at Wisconsin when Jerry coached there. The runners and Jerry aren’t at Wisconsin anymore. Considering Gwen runs for Jerry, I’m sure she knows better than you about what they call them lol
@@patlionel1203 :Hello Pat, your shitty attitude in your responce is really not needed here. Whatever they are called Jerry or Badger its a different approach thats for sure . A hard tempo at 6:20 / pace is hardly a badger / jerry miles
I knew a gal who did just that (injure herself by running too much), but that led her to start throwing and she ended up setting a school record and making it to the finals in the state championship.
Yes I’d love to understand what you mean. This is an informative video. She’s articulating information about the amount of miles she runs and explaining how she calculates that. I wouldn’t regard simple math or a lot of miles for a professional runner to be pretentious. Perhaps you meant intimidating 🤣
That thumbnail is excellent math
hahaha 13 gwen 13!
Shreyas someone must of commented without watching the video 😝
Talbot Cox nah she explained it but it’s still funny. It wasn’t directly addressed but watching the vid explains it lol
It’s actually supposed to be 47 but 🤷🏼♂️ 😂
Gwen, you are a champion. That’s the word Colleen used to describe you the other day when she did a live on Instagram. I think it fits because you’re so consistent and precise with everything you do. I admire how nothing you do is half-hearted, and you are so in tune with your body and your running. Great video :)
Love the concept of “Jerry miles”, never heard of that theory before!
"100km, which is 62 miles, which is like nothing"
uh......
DominoFuel hahah whoops
Love how you and Pat are so chill! Keep the vlogs coming.
Really like the Jerry method of tracking. I average 40-50 miles per week during marathon season and 20-30 during triathlon season. "Listening to your body," is excellent advice especially as you get older. BTW, love the Rudy Project glasses....
Thanks for giving an inside look on how you track your mileage! You make a lot of great points in regards to preventing injury! I would love it if you could share your journaling process! I love the videos! They have helped motivate me in this strange new "normal". Stay healthy!
Hi! This is so encouraging. I love keeping track of my miles, especially in the summer. I am currently doing 40-43 miles a week right now. Hoping to build up to 50 by August.
Did you get there?
@@KernowJackson I did! It took longer than expected, but in 2021 I maintained mileage (summertime) between 50-60 miles.
@@aubreyjohnson2551 brilliant, well done!
@@KernowJackson Thank you! Praise God!
Hope you have a great 2022!
100% agree with the adage of not getting wrapped up in trying to hit a specific number of miles but rather focusing on the overall effect trying to be accomplished with the training during a given period and letting the miles appropriately match the desired stimulus.
I'm definitely a believer in listening to your body. Take a day off when needed. When you work. Work!! Gwen you are a Champion in and out of competition!!
120 Jerry miles. I've never done more than 60 per week actual miles :(
*Remembers Gwen is Olympian; feels better
I always give myself ranges. Like 8-10 for an easy run, it might be that you don't feel too great during the run and cut it a bit. Each day will vary just a little, but by the end of the week the range can be as much as 10 or so. Say 65-75, just because you hit 65 doesn't mean you didn't do everything you needed to. I have no more than 2 days a week of doubles and one rest day or a day that is 4 or less miles that is on Sunday which is after my long run on Saturday. I like waking up and deciding whether I should shakeout or not. That's my favorite part of the week.
Great cinematography as always from Patrick. This is the one of the best videos. Were all hung up on time milage enjoy listening to your views on this subject and comparing the two sports.
This is so cool! Thanks for sharing Gwen!
Love it, thanks for sharing
can you do a draw my life running edition?
I like the way you keep track of your mileage.I think what you said about listening to your body couldn't be more true to prevent injury.I have a history of injury caused by hard training that was solved by changing the way I saw training
Thanks for the video...I found that really interesting as a way of tracking and something I’ve never heard of before. I was wondering how you judge the intensity of your runs? Do you just go by feel or use pace? I really struggle to make my easy runs easy enough!
Hello Gwen , i'm from Belgium , i count by kilometers , i do around 50 km/week . other than total kilometers i count Intesity Points based on a simplification of Daniels' Running Formula where i will do a ponderation with x0.2 points per minute of E running, x0.4 points per minute at M pace, x0.6 points per minute at T pace, x1.0 point per minute at I pace, and x1.5 points per minute at R pace.
Great insights as usual Gwen. I think it's fairly obvious that Jerry miles are a tool that coaches resorted to back when they only had their stopwatch outside a track and it was hard if not impossible to calculate actual mileage. The method became outdated with GPS watches, but it obviously holds emotional value for for athletes, and helps with not being fixated with mileage, so it's still a winner.
The thumbnail had me so confused for a second
awesome video
I track both 'mileage' (although my watch splits in kms because I feel it's more relatable to most race distances) and time but time is the more important metric for me. I feel like the body 'understands' time spent at an effort level rather than distance covered, so is more valuable for determining the training load I can handle. I also like to track rpe and keep an eye on what my rpe for all my weekly training is, and compare that to the average of the preceding 4 weeks. I love the glasses btw!
I switched to 9 day weeks about 2yrs ago. I give myself permission to switch workouts on the 3rd day. I can be too sore for hard intervals or long runs, but tempo tempo tempo isn't a bad default 😇
I absolutely LOVE your videos! Thank you so much for sharing with us! 🙏🙏🙏
Good points about listening to your body. I am 65 years old and still running. You can run and race for a long time if one is careful and in tune with one's self.
This is why I coach by time instead of distance, except intervals.
Glasses look great on you!!!
Hi Gwen. Would it be at all possible to do a Q&A with Shalane on your channel some day? Would love to see it. Cheers.
wow some solid mileage, good work
Great insight Gwen! With all the math, it's good you're an accountant 😊
Since Gerry miles = time, why not just use the time from your watch? My coach has me use time vs miles.
Sometimes the easy runs are the most important to allow your body to recover from hard training days
Interesting to hear how people log miles.... and how many do it differently...!
I've never logged w-up miles, jogs between intervals or warm downs... so I guess I've run a bit further than I think lol !!
I only ever log the working miles/reps etc... most I've logged in a wk is 60 miles...
for the first five minutes of this video, i was like: this is bonkers.
Your glasses are so cute!
Hi, thank you great video!
I personally do track miles according to GPS (usually between 70 to 80 miles, so 110-120KM), but still take easy days on time on feet, so e.g. 60 minutes easy.
I would be curious on how you structure your typical training week if you are not racing (so when you have workouts, when you double, when you do a Long run etc.)
Thank you and greetings from Austria, Europe,
Teri
especially in the mtn's and hilly areas, I go by time. For example, a long run day, I go out an hour and a half and return. The total mileage is still important, but not the primary focus. Mtn's and hills make a big difference on long run days. For example, sometimes a hilly course will get you four mileages, sometimes seven miles but the effort is the same. So I go by time, the ego can handle it better...lol....btw...still log both.
RunTravelAdventure4fun yes 💯
Where does Stanley factor into your TSS!? That CTL is nuts!
Very informative. A great video. Two quick questions: does your Jerry mileage get closer actual mileage during marathon preparation? And is your total weekly mileage of workouts set as a fraction of the Jerry miles, e.g., 20% of Jerry miles?
Yes bc I run slower when running 120+miles
What were your total training hours for all disciplines when you were training for triathlon and do you think your running benefited from cycling and swimming?
My GPS showed I dropped 1,000 feet in elevation in a quarter mile distance.... not true. It was more like 9 feet LOL! So yeah, I'm also basing my runs on time spent running rather than distance covered since it's currently about 15% off compared to actual distance when measured on exact starting and ending point. I like this Jerry-Miles approach.
I just track on Strava, which is very easy to sync with my watch
I didnt start running till college , lol for cross country ,
I track it threw GPs. Rate now running about 55 km a week , adding a extra km to my runs once a week.
Feel like I’m in math class 🙃
I was always fixated on the number of miles per week, but I've slowly converted to minutes over the last few years. But now I'm more fascinated by the amount of time per HR zone. To me, it gives a clearer picture of an individual training load. Do you focus on HR at all or more by perceived exertion?
I love this mental thing of switching from km to miles - 8 miles? seems fair. 16k? much more daunting... :-)
Well 8 miles is 13k so it’s fine.
You are the best..👍👍👍👍 MPRABO...🤗🤗🤗🏃🏃🏃
9 + 4 = 13 🤔🤔🤔
JJohn Hipp watch the video 😉
food for thought thanks, gonna give the time in the shoes a go
In training for a trail marathon I was hitting 50 miles of "GPS miles" plus commuter miles in cross training. I recall reading somewhere about the diminishing return of benefits of increasing the mileage beyond 50 per week. But in practise it could be an age thing or having reached my peak (and oh so average) genetic fitness level...
Very interesting! How does your body feel about the training load / level of fatigue vs when you were doing triathlon?
Andrew Li same as it end and flows greatly
I have run over 130,000 miles....as a 64 year old I say don’t do that....instead focus on a program of improving your race goals thru speed, tempo and aerobic endurance with plenty of rest.
have you done over 130.ooo miles?!
are u a pro?! did you eat about 2800cal per day? how u manage this with knees,heart,and how much protein digestion? ultra running is hard for body. i hope u are always good!
carrots [for good eyes], always peeled, apple a day keeps the doctor away
I dd 33 last week, a really small week but I also have otrher stuff to do
I run with normal stopwatch too 😀
I run 45 miles a week every week.
Great information
My favorite athlete
does a Jerry mile mean that on non-workout days you are allowed to run at a true 8-minute pace if that's what your body needs to recover?
Jordan Chervin or slower
Hi Gwen! Does the concept of Jerry Miles still apply if you're running slower than 8 minutes/mile? Should you apply your own mile time to make this fit? Thanks!
yes, it's just a metric to use to keep the time on feet (so could even do 10 or 15 min miles if you like)
What's the brand and version of your laptop? looks pretty cool!
葛Tarry it’s not mine it’s Talbots
I am doing right now a aerobic base, i start with 65 miles a week, and on a period of 3 months i will complete 100 miles , then stay in 75 to 90 in strength base ...
How come you have rTSS on your TrainingPeaks instead of just TSS since you’re getting power from your Stryd?
Just the way I upload. I have my Stryd uploaded to a separate TP account my coaches look at but it’s too much data for me :)
É uma pena não ter legenda em português (Brasil) ! Uma pena!
I hit almost (49.6) 50 miles for the first time ever in a week in February in GPS miles training for a marathon that was cancelled. In Jerry miles it'd be a lot more because I'm slow...rough math is 70+ I think.
Angela Brinker strong
Hello you guys, always nice video! how are you doing during this coronavirus?
gwen are you thinking of running any marathon this year? after all of these finish? i am running chicago this year in october and i hope not get cancelled! kostas from new york, that we took a picture together in marathon expo 2018 :) stay safe!
you are amazing thank you.
How many days do you train every week?
susan Williams take days off but not frequently
Us runners are typically obsessed with volume 😂😂😉
If it makes it easier for you to answer this common question, then you could plot the values and make a histogram. Then, you could tell people the average and standard deviation of your distribution (e.g., 85 miles w/ a std dev of 8). If there seems to be a bimodal (aka two distinct) distributions based on race weeks vs non-race weeks, then simply report two distributions. I like your take-aways.
Chris Tanner wow that’s sounds like a lot of work especially when each week is so diff. Some days I run over 8 min pace some days under 7 just depends on where I am
Gwen + 👓 = 👍
What are your favorite Nike shoes for the long runs ?
Sabrina Wi varies weekly. Last week was pegs week before infinity react, week before zoom fly
Gwen Jorgensen ok thanks
How much sleep do you get each night? How much do you want to get?
Kevin Decoteau 9
Gwen Jorgensen how do you manage to sleep so much? it’s been hard for me to get near eight hours when I need to get up at 6
hahaha, I am doing 5k Jogging five times a week hahaha only 25 km a week...........
I'm newbie lol. I run 15 miles a week down from 20due to.covid
you are elite athlete, i admire a lot your skills, i suggest to all elite athletes to try to do some bussiness parallel to their activities,
because top results may be unhealthy, especially in long run.
like stallone,swazthceneger, or just coaching, weight loss etc
I see the sticker on your laptop: He>I
Love that❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
4.07 what are openers
Seth Hershey striders
Is 8 minutes you're easy day pace? What designated 8 minutes to be the mark of a Jerry mile?
Christian Dillard that’s a good question and I never asked but assume it’s bc we would normally run at least 8min miles
@@GwenJorgensen right on! Thank you for the reply!
Are u gonna try out for the triathlon for Tokyo since the marathon didnt work out?
Last I heard she was going for 5k/10k. Let’s see if she responds.
Correct 10/5
Impressive
Gwen absolutely FLEXING on us with google!! HAHHA loved that!!
Kate Miller how?
Oh hahah maybe they should be a sponsor
50-60
that's a 16-inch MBP :)
Why would you refuse to see the distance on your GPS watch and instead calculate the distance by time? And what's this obsession with miles? Distance is measured in km!
time on feet
Only reason I clicked on this video was because the blatant math error.
Shoulda put 56/8 on the thumbnail
Gwen , they are called Badger miles . I’ve heard that for years
DOWN TOWN that’s what they were called at Wisconsin when Jerry coached there. The runners and Jerry aren’t at Wisconsin anymore. Considering Gwen runs for Jerry, I’m sure she knows better than you about what they call them lol
@@patlionel1203 :Hello Pat, your shitty attitude in your responce is really not needed here. Whatever they are called Jerry or Badger its a different approach thats for sure . A hard tempo at 6:20 / pace is hardly a badger / jerry miles
DOWN TOWN lol
This comment was made during the first week in April.
Bretzky hahahahab
High schoolers will be injured after watching this because they don’t want to run a “pathetic 20 mpw”?
I knew a gal who did just that (injure herself by running too much), but that led her to start throwing and she ended up setting a school record and making it to the finals in the state championship.
I hope not!
So much easier to just check the GPS totals at the end of the week. Your way is way too complicated. I prefer not to have to think so much 😊
WTF pls use the metric system ;-p
This is too confusing
This must be the kind of math they brainwash Nike athletes into thinking makes sense. Lost interest after about 2 minutes.
Alexander Budzisz actually was originally from my alma mater UW Madison
These shaky closeups are not working.
The pretentiousness of runners 🙄😂
rickyomason wdym? What about this entire video is pretentious is any way?
This is literally her job. Expertise is not pretentious
Yes I’d love to understand what you mean. This is an informative video. She’s articulating information about the amount of miles she runs and explaining how she calculates that. I wouldn’t regard simple math or a lot of miles for a professional runner to be pretentious. Perhaps you meant intimidating 🤣