Honestly, the first scene in the city showed a normal battle without the gundams. Each side brutally attacking each other, with each side taking heavy damage. Until the aces show up.
@@zacharyuy-tioco2539 Aye, wasted opportunity for ZZ Gundam series to show the Titans Remnants as it took place right after the Gryps War and the beginning of the First Neo Zeon War. Like they should have been with Axis Zeon, the very enemy they're supposed to fight yet sided with them after the Federation disavowed them, even after their defeat and demise of Scirocco and continue antagonizing the AEUG and Judau's Gundam Team.
Blue Cosmos are like the Titans of Cosmic Era universe in a nutshell. They're both massive military organizations with massive hatred with those they don't like: Spacenoids and Coordinators, and they do stupid evil things for kicks. And now they're reduced to mere remnants who were whittled down constantly.
They did cut off from the Earth Alliance and took whatever they could from them. The EA must've only had a handful of 105 Daggers and Windams with some Jet Strikers, and what I think it is a large abundance of the old Strike Dagger's beam riffle and shield, and some Destroy Gundams that are either fully functional or in disrepair.
@@eldricksoberano2302 The Destroy Gundams were product of Blue Cosmos not the Earth Alliance. Also since the Atlantic Federation is a shell of what it used to be and Blue Cosmos's main supplier were the Atlantic Federation they could only get their hands on 105 Daggers with no Striker packs plus some Windams with the Jet Striker pack. Blue Cosmos probably have very small number of Destroy Gundams left in their armory which is why they don't deploy it that much.
I'm sure that's part of the plan, so that they can claim to be international and not actively say they are from some evil organization, pretty standard thing in false flag operations.
Also I think markings, as the Blue Cosmos Daggers would have different markings then the Eurasian Daggers. In fact during the opening scene of the battle against that mountain fortress you can see a couple of Daggers standing up and their shoulders sporting a modified Earth Alliance emblem.
105 Dagger are the previous model of Strike Dagger before the Dagger L which makes it more easier to acquire from the Atlantic Federation since if the Atlantic Federation start supplying Dagger L to Blue Cosmos the Pacific Federation, who are in charge of the entire Earth Alliance now, would notice and would intervene as the Dagger L is still in service.
@@CaptainIchimaruGin lorewise the 105 is a very rare unit tho, there were many more Dagger Ls than 105s. So honestly, its just Bandai testing the waters for 105 Dagger HG,
Huh. I am still wondering where in the world did they get all of those 105 Daggers? Thought they were only produced in limited numbers or something outside of the Slaughter Daggers anyways.
From what I heard they originally only made like 23 units in the first bloody valentine war so they either must've produced a lot of them post war or the writers forgot about that
@@mikeeB-m5h Shrug. I still think that they are converted from old GAT-01 Strike Daggers from the FIrst War, similiar to the RGM-79 GM to the RGM-79R GM II in the UC Timeline. It would make sense in my mind. Though I would think the Strike Daggers would be converted into Dagger Ls instead as they are cheaper. Shrug.
Wait, i am confused, why do the Gundam looking MS on the side of the Zeon looking MS, i thought the Zeon Looking MS are the bad guys in this Universe as well?
I guess since you must've not watched SEED yet... In this Gundam Seed Movie the Earth Alliance and ZAFT are now at Peace Terms, and the feddie looking suit/Daggers that you see belongs to the Blue Cosmos/Logos Remnants, the C.E equivalent of the Titans. And the Gundams that assisted ZAFT belongs to COMPASS, kinda the equivalent of AEUG/Londo Bell
@@gamejunky3040 Seed is a universe filled with plot issues and in-universe rule breaking. FUN FACT! In the Seed series, beam swords can't parry in this universe, it always beam on shield blocking.
Looks like absolutely everybody agreed the Windam was a mistake. Rare to see an intended successor unit so thoroughly overshadowed by the ostensibly obsolete unit it's meant to replace (although there's real-world precedent, like the british Fairey Albacore which went out of service before the Swordfish it was supposed to be an upgrade over...)
... in one fanfic idea I've been playing with, the entire Earth Alliance will discover that, no, their actions are *_NOT_* acceptable, and they have two choices: either unconditionally surrender before the hour is up *_OR_* have an entire Planetary Theater Group (think the forces required to fight across a whole _PLANET_ and militarily subjugate it) jammed down their throats. If the Earth Alliance starts throwing nukes at ground forces? Well, the faction in question is more than willing to LARP the Mobile Infantry from the book version of _Starship Troopers_ and vibe in the same environment as Bolo-verse and OGRE.
@@heerosefffinchannel5387 This is Blue Cosmos remnants on their last legs. Before they enjoyed unlimited funding and military power on their side like the Titans from Zeta Gundam. But now, they make do with what they have left when being picked off little by little in humiliation.
@@Fulcrox Destroy Gundam is only effective when Blue Cosmos had those Extended like Stella Louisser piloting it but they, a shadow of themselves - cut off from unlimited funding and resources they once enjoyed and wasted, don't have the luxury to create any more Extended and had use one of their regular fanatical grunt to pilot the Destroy Gundam which didn't go well after we see it beaten one-sided.
The former notion of only 23 105 Daggers that said to be the produced before production of Strike Daggers which was used on the defense on Heavens Base were thrown out the window after the flood of 105 Daggers in the Seed Freedom movie 🤣 and I'm sure the main reason was because of better color scheme and better performance than Strike Dagger 😂 they should have put the more plenty Dagger L rather than the 105 Dagger so that it wont change some of the lore of the Seed series 😅
They had the perfect opportunity to make a revive verison of the 105 dagger and yet they still haven't even with all these striker packs coming out on option sets recently
That's uh... pretty common in the SEED universe, especially given that they can't do beam saber clashes. Unfortunately, pretty much any attack the protagonists have goes right through them like they're made of paper.
I wouldn't say massacred as the original Gyan wasn't that great of a mobile suit. All it have was a shield that shoot missiles and a beam saber. The Gyan Strom comes with a beam axe, beam saber, beam saw shield, two triple barrel beam Gatling guns, heat rod, beam rifle, and the compatibility to be equipped with Wizard packs.
@@CaptainIchimaruGinhow dare you. It was silly and had charm. Anything made in the cosmic era (barring the red frame Gundam) sucks ass on the basis that it’s in the cosmic era. More weapons does not make for an interesting mobile suit; the Gyan was made that way because M’Quve was a fencer (and an idiot).
The star wars noises are distracting. Though it wouldn't be the first time SEED had some SW inspiration. Just look at the showdown between Durandal and Kira in Destiny. That room looked exactly like the one in ROTJ right down to the chair.
![RGM-79[G]E GM EX](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MWgK6uBJqOc/mqdefault.jpg)
Seed casually using Star Wars sound effects again
同じSEEDの頃からの「やられ役仲間」リニアガンタンクも一緒に戦っている姿を俺は見逃さないぞ。
歩兵としてのポジションがいいな。ライフル撃ちながら進撃するシーンが。ただやられるだけでなくシールドでガードしたりサーベルで斬りかかるもあって。ジンはもちろんムラサメ改も撃破してるしエースパイロットの攻撃を一回だけでも防いでるし。
映画の時系列でも105ダガーは高性能な機体。ウィンダムほどではないが。
0:34 Gyan using the Destructo Disc attack!
It's very effective!
Honestly, the first scene in the city showed a normal battle without the gundams. Each side brutally attacking each other, with each side taking heavy damage. Until the aces show up.
Yeah, ruined a good battle pretty quick
@@Fulcrox Isn't that the point of Compass' modus operandi? To take down Blue Cosmos remnants trying to cause trouble.
@@Fulcrox Fitting as Blue Cosmos are on their last legs after losing everything and became shadows of themselves ala Titans from Zeta Gundam.
@@TheWarmachine375 You know, we never did see the Titans being active remnants on screen apart from expanded media like manga.
@@zacharyuy-tioco2539 Aye, wasted opportunity for ZZ Gundam series to show the Titans Remnants as it took place right after the Gryps War and the beginning of the First Neo Zeon War.
Like they should have been with Axis Zeon, the very enemy they're supposed to fight yet sided with them after the Federation disavowed them, even after their defeat and demise of Scirocco and continue antagonizing the AEUG and Judau's Gundam Team.
Blue Cosmos are like the Titans of Cosmic Era universe in a nutshell. They're both massive military organizations with massive hatred with those they don't like: Spacenoids and Coordinators, and they do stupid evil things for kicks.
And now they're reduced to mere remnants who were whittled down constantly.
The difference is that the titans are actually well written, and blue cosmos sucks ass.
And they still have the audacity to keep wearing EA uniforms that they're a disgrace to and have the OMNI logo on their Dagger's.
And the Titans have good people in it
これと比べられるティターンズ可哀想
@@swordimpulse07 yeah seeing the EA uniforms just don't make me comfortable given how corrupted their leadership is
Tie Fighter sounding ass beam rifle 💀
The activation sound is the same which made me nudge my sister in the theater (i watched it in japan so no yapping mid movie)
They're imperials now.
Sound like a tie fighter laser beam figure
Idk if it's plagiarism or an easter egg.
@@Drownedinblood probably just a generic beam sound
honestly after all the freedom has been through if i ever see that thing flying towards me im high tailing it outta there.
Kinda sad seeing 105 daggers without any Striker packs
They did cut off from the Earth Alliance and took whatever they could from them. The EA must've only had a handful of 105 Daggers and Windams with some Jet Strikers, and what I think it is a large abundance of the old Strike Dagger's beam riffle and shield, and some Destroy Gundams that are either fully functional or in disrepair.
@@eldricksoberano2302 The Destroy Gundams were product of Blue Cosmos not the Earth Alliance. Also since the Atlantic Federation is a shell of what it used to be and Blue Cosmos's main supplier were the Atlantic Federation they could only get their hands on 105 Daggers with no Striker packs plus some Windams with the Jet Striker pack. Blue Cosmos probably have very small number of Destroy Gundams left in their armory which is why they don't deploy it that much.
105 dagger cockpit were pretty well made compared to most ZAFT and ORB cockpit
Agree, I love it
105 dagger is a masterpiece due to it being in development for a long time while secretly absorbing battle data from both sides.
105ダガーのHGCE化願います。
ぜひ、通常版で
ビームの音が気持ちいい
0:47 "We're not retreating! Just advancing in a different direction!" - Blue Cosmos losers
MSV出身機体がまさかの種死一部登場、CE73でもマイナーチェンジ機のスローターダガー、劇場版でも登場とかなり髙待遇ですね105ダガー😊
How do they tell Eurasian Federation Daggers apart from Blue Cosmos Daggers? They look exactly the same.
I'm sure that's part of the plan, so that they can claim to be international and not actively say they are from some evil organization, pretty standard thing in false flag operations.
Probably IFF systems.
Also I think markings, as the Blue Cosmos Daggers would have different markings then the Eurasian Daggers. In fact during the opening scene of the battle against that mountain fortress you can see a couple of Daggers standing up and their shoulders sporting a modified Earth Alliance emblem.
in Lore : I still dont know why they use 105 Dagger rather than Dagger L
in real world: Bandai gona make it P Bandai for sure
105 Dagger are the previous model of Strike Dagger before the Dagger L which makes it more easier to acquire from the Atlantic Federation since if the Atlantic Federation start supplying Dagger L to Blue Cosmos the Pacific Federation, who are in charge of the entire Earth Alliance now, would notice and would intervene as the Dagger L is still in service.
@@CaptainIchimaruGin lorewise the 105 is a very rare unit tho, there were many more Dagger Ls than 105s.
So honestly, its just Bandai testing the waters for 105 Dagger HG,
戦後に条約によって国が持てるMS数に上限が設けられたからでしょう。
故に高級量産機である105ダガーの残像数が多いのではないですかね。
Huh. I am still wondering where in the world did they get all of those 105 Daggers? Thought they were only produced in limited numbers or something outside of the Slaughter Daggers anyways.
From what I heard they originally only made like 23 units in the first bloody valentine war so they either must've produced a lot of them post war or the writers forgot about that
Maybe the director forgot about it and went full send on the 105 Dagger due to it being cooler than the other Dagger series 😂
@@mikeeB-m5h Shrug. I still think that they are converted from old GAT-01 Strike Daggers from the FIrst War, similiar to the RGM-79 GM to the RGM-79R GM II in the UC Timeline. It would make sense in my mind. Though I would think the Strike Daggers would be converted into Dagger Ls instead as they are cheaper. Shrug.
Wait, i am confused, why do the Gundam looking MS on the side of the Zeon looking MS, i thought the Zeon Looking MS are the bad guys in this Universe as well?
I guess since you must've not watched SEED yet... In this Gundam Seed Movie the Earth Alliance and ZAFT are now at Peace Terms, and the feddie looking suit/Daggers that you see belongs to the Blue Cosmos/Logos Remnants, the C.E equivalent of the Titans.
And the Gundams that assisted ZAFT belongs to COMPASS, kinda the equivalent of AEUG/Londo Bell
@@ShinCadian27ththanks for the clarification
@@gamejunky3040The worst thing about Seed is that there is no clear faction aesthetic identity.
@@Kaluvin yeah… I am still confused
@@gamejunky3040 Seed is a universe filled with plot issues and in-universe rule breaking. FUN FACT! In the Seed series, beam swords can't parry in this universe, it always beam on shield blocking.
芋者に視線が行きがちだけど、ヒルダギャンのアックスを弾いてライフルで反撃してるダガーがいるんだよね。（その後アックスで足を切られ体勢を崩した所にアックスの実体刃を刺されている）
Really hoping the 105 gets a Revive cause of this
しかしどこにこんな数の105ダガー在庫があったのやら。
地球連合各加盟国の国内。
If it weren't for the title, I thought this clip is from any Universal Century Gundam series.
Thats the bullseye rocket launcher sound from vigilante 8 on Playstation 1
105ダガーは今回の映画でかなりの大出世をしたよねー
最新世代のモビルスーツに果敢に挑んだり攻撃をガードしたりと。
パック装備によってはより活躍できる。
What series is this from?
the animations looks different ?
Looks like absolutely everybody agreed the Windam was a mistake.
Rare to see an intended successor unit so thoroughly overshadowed by the ostensibly obsolete unit it's meant to replace (although there's real-world precedent, like the british Fairey Albacore which went out of service before the Swordfish it was supposed to be an upgrade over...)
ダガーのパイロット達はどんな気持ちで戦っていたんだろう...
とにかく特攻という命令通りに徹底的に破壊するという気持ちかな。
Wait, so those aren’t Wingdams?
ボッコボコにやられてたくせにコンパスが来て一掃してくれたら調子付くジンすき
Kira sitting over here like "How many thousands am I gonna have to kill before you learn war is bad THIS time!?"
... in one fanfic idea I've been playing with, the entire Earth Alliance will discover that, no, their actions are *_NOT_* acceptable, and they have two choices: either unconditionally surrender before the hour is up *_OR_* have an entire Planetary Theater Group (think the forces required to fight across a whole _PLANET_ and militarily subjugate it) jammed down their throats. If the Earth Alliance starts throwing nukes at ground forces? Well, the faction in question is more than willing to LARP the Mobile Infantry from the book version of _Starship Troopers_ and vibe in the same environment as Bolo-verse and OGRE.
green beam with tie fighter laser sound ...
2:11 いつ見ても無慈悲なムウさんエグい
なんでダガーLが出てこないんだろうか
地味に最後ムラサメをサーベルで撃破してる
高性能という証拠。パイロットも。
Why ZAFT only use GiNN series?
二線級の部隊で旧型機しか持っていないと思われます
Mainly on Earth with reserve units. Most of the ZAKU's are kept in space to defend the PLANTS.
僻地にはだいたい旧式MSが当てられるのはガンダムよくあることなので。 個人的に1stのザクⅡをそのまま持ってきたようなザクウォーリアよりザフトらしい機体のジンの方が好きです😊
@@swordimpulse07 Which is strange considering how absolutely outdated the GiNN is by even SEED Destiny.
We need 105 dagger revive
Why aren't those Ginn equipped with energy weaponry like those daggers. They should have been modernised
These Ginns are operated by a poorer client state of PLANT, so they cant afford the more expensive beams.
Sticking out your Gat for the Dagger!
Cosmic Era brainrot
Disappointed they didnt use the dagger L and the gouf in this movie
@heerosefffinchannel5387 dagger L are barely use during the war as a reserve it mostly replaced by the windam
@@FederationMS787 even so they would have more dagger Ls then 105 daggers
@@heerosefffinchannel5387 This is Blue Cosmos remnants on their last legs. Before they enjoyed unlimited funding and military power on their side like the Titans from Zeta Gundam.
But now, they make do with what they have left when being picked off little by little in humiliation.
@@TheWarmachine375 they literally have a Destroy Gundam, a Dagger L wouldnt be far fetched not rare to field considering they had many of them
@@Fulcrox Destroy Gundam is only effective when Blue Cosmos had those Extended like Stella Louisser piloting it but they, a shadow of themselves - cut off from unlimited funding and resources they once enjoyed and wasted, don't have the luxury to create any more Extended and had use one of their regular fanatical grunt to pilot the Destroy Gundam which didn't go well after we see it beaten one-sided.
種、種運命の一部ビームライフルSE使われていないのはなんの理由なんだろう、ストライクやインパルスのメインで使われてたSE好きだったのに
105ダガーは取り回しの良いビームカービンだったからこんな音だったよ
そう言えば、この機体足に機関砲付いてたよね((((；ﾟДﾟ))))ｶﾞｸｶﾞｸﾌﾞﾙﾌﾞﾙ
迎撃しているジンを無視して退避している民間人を攻撃してるの殺意がやばいな；
Oh my goodness!
The former notion of only 23 105 Daggers that said to be the produced before production of Strike Daggers which was used on the defense on Heavens Base were thrown out the window after the flood of 105 Daggers in the Seed Freedom movie 🤣 and I'm sure the main reason was because of better color scheme and better performance than Strike Dagger 😂 they should have put the more plenty Dagger L rather than the 105 Dagger so that it wont change some of the lore of the Seed series 😅
They had the perfect opportunity to make a revive verison of the 105 dagger and yet they still haven't even with all these striker packs coming out on option sets recently
*literally seeing daggers being slaughtered on screen*
Really? In front of my GMs?
EGに出ないかな…
ジンは最初期のMSなのに未だに現役なのすごいわ。
それにしてもブルーコスモス墜ちたな、盟主もロゴスもいなくなって予算がガタガタガタキリバなテロリストになっとる。
ミケールという元連合軍大佐が盟主。
後ろ楯のロゴスが崩壊しても元連合軍兵士というのがあってダガー、ウィンダム、デストロイ、そして戦車とミサイル車両など小国規模の兵力を持ってるから無視できない。
オルドリン自治区は辺境地域だからかもな。ジンは実は地上では市街地などで使いやすい機体だから。
@アニメと映画漫画好き でも相手は飛行できる上にシールドやビーム兵器普通に使うダガーやウィンダムだから絶対遅れはとってると思う。
@唯一神エンテイ-h5k 実態弾兵器だが火力はある。防衛部隊でもランチャーや大型ミサイル使用してるし。
Everytime i watch gundam i always forget how masive the mech their using😅
この映画で1番良かったシーン
後は何を見せられてるのか分からなかった。
半壊デストロイあたりが山場でした
@@Ravi979xx 後は唇物語
They actually use shields!!
That's uh... pretty common in the SEED universe, especially given that they can't do beam saber clashes. Unfortunately, pretty much any attack the protagonists have goes right through them like they're made of paper.
Put me in a slaughter dagger I can easily take out compass
Honestly fuck main character gundam I just really want to see a seen when a windam is beating the shit out of the enemy without a ace showing up
0:36 look at how they massacred the gyan…
I wouldn't say massacred as the original Gyan wasn't that great of a mobile suit. All it have was a shield that shoot missiles and a beam saber. The Gyan Strom comes with a beam axe, beam saber, beam saw shield, two triple barrel beam Gatling guns, heat rod, beam rifle, and the compatibility to be equipped with Wizard packs.
@@CaptainIchimaruGinhow dare you. It was silly and had charm.
Anything made in the cosmic era (barring the red frame Gundam) sucks ass on the basis that it’s in the cosmic era.
More weapons does not make for an interesting mobile suit; the Gyan was made that way because M’Quve was a fencer (and an idiot).
It's better than ginn？
@yangsoap5790 the standard strike dagger is better than the ginn and the 105 dagger is better than the strike dagger
The star wars noises are distracting.
Though it wouldn't be the first time SEED had some SW inspiration. Just look at the showdown between Durandal and Kira in Destiny. That room looked exactly like the one in ROTJ right down to the chair.
0:42 Beam Boomerang
The rest of the animation should have been cel shaded if they needed to save on costs.
The everything looks so out of place.
Now i understand why ppl feel icky about watching subs
Gundam seed is lame and always has been
I hate this movie and greatly dislike Destiny, but SEED and Stargazer were both quite enjoyable to watch imo.
UC bootlicker spotted