RDJs role in Tropic Thunder was making fun of the fact, that Hollywood would rather use a white accomplished actor in blackface rather than a actual black actor. They made a huge point out of it, when they showed his backstory, when he was preparing for that role and the role before that. Before his blackface he went to india i think and lived there making shoes to prepare for a role. His blackface was satirical and poking fun at the practice as a whole.
I took the cast as a joke about the industry's habit of casting an action star with a comedian, rap star, and/or academy award caliber actor in action flicks in an effort to attract movie-goers of varying genres. RDJ was the academy star that played layers (I'm a dude playing a dude disguised an another dude).Anyone thinking this was a slight to black people is too sensitive.
there was multiple levels to the joke. The first was the method acting elements of RDJ character along with the extreme lengths he took for the role. Like not breaking character until after the dvd commentary. The other layer was that a good black supporting part was given to a white actor instead of a black actor, forcing him to go into blackface, in general, the script would just be whitewashed, but this being a "historic" movie the character's race was already known so he put on black face.
Bullying was a big theme in Harry Potter. No one ever did anything about Draco. The only person who did was Barty Crouch. Even in the books, Dumbledore, McGonagall, and all the others gave zero fucks.
Apart from anything else the maurders in Harry Potter are glorified to the high heavens, when in reality they were nothing more than a group of bullies, they were far worse then Draco,he's barely a bully they had maybe 2/3 arguments per book, James physically tortured Snape on a daily basis for years
+Minh Hoang I don't think Dumbeldore was a good headmaster. Hagrid continually said that Hogwarts was the safest place in the magical world, yet every year Harry almost dies. I used to think he was great when I was younger, but now that I'm old, I wouldn't send my kids to Hogwarts if I had. any. But, I don't know if Dumbledore was afraid of Lucius as he could stare down Voldemort and not flinch.
the problem is we feel the need impose our morality on things that came out years before. What is is.....we can not change the past...dont ignore it...dont cover it up ..learn and move on
If we did not look upon past horrors with modern eyes, doomed, to repeat them aren't we. Some of those things should be teaching tools but never again templates for behaviors to recreate. If you mean, don't overly dwell upon them, instead of move on and not hold them as examples then yeah.
Exactly right. People think of Abraham Lincoln as a great American president today, but if we were to analyze some of his beliefs when he was alive some of the things he believed would be racist when compared to the standards of today.
The Breakfast Club would not happen today. 1. Clarke's hazing would go viral. 2. Johnson's gun in the locker would have made the news and he would have gone to MHS lockdown. 3. Claire's family would have bulliied the administration out of the detention, short of threatening a lawsuit. 4. Bender would have blown it off. 5. Ally would have never shown up. 6. There are always at least teachers on campus on weekends. They would have not been left alone in the library.
Personally I think the main reason a lot of those tropes wouldn't happen in modern productions is be ause the context changed, not just because they became less tolerable. Now, the presence of smartphones, different policies to handle fighting and bullying and other forms of bullying (cyberbullying for one) mean things would be quite different. However, a production set in the past usually portrays how a different context, though the sensibilities will mix between portraying the balues of those days and those of now to make it accurate but pallatable to the audience
I had a bully in high school. I confronted said bully one day, broke his nose, and got suspended. However, no more bully AND a few days of vacation from school. Win-Win!
@mastershake9801 THANK YOU! I was being bullied until I got the green light from my parents, (they taught me to not fight in school), to take care of the problem. Next time out, me and the bully went toe-to-toe and after I whipped his @$$, no more problems...from ANYone. The cool part was, my teachers let me make up the work I missed because of the suspension.
I'd have thought 'child triumphing over their bully' would be seen as more of a victory than 'bully is disciplined by an authority figure,' but apparently not from what watchmojo has to say.
The sad thing is that people now think that authorities care because they now deal with bullies. When in actuality the authority figures are told they should care and have forms to fill in to show how they care about bullying. Truth is they don't give a hoot like teachers of the past it's just they have to do it now
Exactly had similar story. It was a modern morality tale. Handle things on your own. Grow some balls and show them you Have a backbone to stand up for your self.
Exactly. If you don't like the way Asians are depicted by white people, make harold and kumar and depict White guys as idiot frat boys. Nobody got offended when they did that, and nobody should have been offended
For the most part being offended is a deliberate choice. You should be offended if someone personally and directly disrespects or assaults you or your property. My grandfather said he hated everyone equally.
I love how the first one mentioned is 'everybody smokes(cigarettes)', yet modern films show characters smoking cannabis and taking other drugs! They also don't seem to understand that films often portrayed racism, sexism, bullying, slavery etc. to highlight bad things/attitudes that happen(ed) in society to make people think about them.
I get what you're saying about drugs and smoking today, however, the difference is that today, ratings are influenced by those things, and they weren't before. You will not find PG films with drugs and smoking, they will have higher ratings. PG stands for "parental guidance", and only "G" is "for everybody". So honestly, it's up to the consumer at this point to be aware of ratings. But I agree, it's being portrayed as "insignificant" for sure. As if nothing's wrong with doing drugs.
Jimmy M - it isn’t that it’s necessarily offensive, it’s more that we’ve outgrown these perspectives culturally and intellectually. They reflect the assumptions of their time, which are no longer relevant. For example, slaves were not content and jovial in their servitude and no woman ever benefitted from being slapped.
***** It's not like George Lucas based these off real aliens he saw in the real world. He based them off things in his own mind and his perspective on the world. Doesn't matter if it's aliens or people or monsters.
MicoDossun i guess but what if he just liked the accent of the voice? did people laugh when they heard the accent? i dont think so they accepted it. If your not intentionally being rascist why should you not have the freedom to chose what your own fictional charecter sounds like?
ZIEGLER MONSTER And don't forget: these days if you're a kid and get beat up by a bully, you get in trouble too, since "it takes two to fight" (so glad I was in college instead of high school when the "zero tolerance " bullshit started)
Oh my god! What I would do to my bullies now, and what I would say to some of my stupid teachers now too now I realise they didn't have half the power I thought they had.
ZIEGLER MONSTER - in the REAL WORLD, before the communists in public schools adopted "zero tolerance" policies, the Bully eventually met someone that put him in his place. Now, kids have to deal with it by coming to school with a gun and shooting everyone that would not stand up against their tormentors. Liberals in the public school system brought this shit into fruition... probably by design so they can take guns away from everyone.
A major problem that's still present now is 'who through the first punch' gets in trouble. Problem is that bullies started verbal abuse and stealing/breaking property. So I almost ended up killing my bullies this one day. I'm glad this problem was addressed because it didn't teach me to be tough, it taught me how to hate and despise all of humanity, and how to unleash it to whomever was unlucky enough in my way. I was turning into a little psychopath and I'm glad I didn't have a firearm because I couldn't overpower my bullies with my muscle strength, so I most certainly would have ended up on the news. And though good people came to save my soul eventually, it still lead to over 20 years of therapy. So I just want to say, "F*ck Off, and go to hell" to whoever thinks that bullying isn't a big deal. I don't like how it's still being addressed today, but I do see that it's much better than before.
TO THE ARSEHOLES WHO MADE THIS VIDEO I SAID _ 'TOP MOVIE TROPES THAT WOULD NOT FLY TODAY'? - YES THEY WOULD. YOU CANT MAKE A CLAIM OF SOMETHING YOU WANT AND CLAIM IT TO BE REAL. YOU DELUDED LIBERAL P.C. TYPES THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FOCRE YOU PEVERTED IDEOLOGY ON EVERYON ELSE - YOU DONT. AND YOU NEED TO LEARN THAT WE WILL NOT TOLLERATE YOUR BULLYING.
Robert Scannell: you called out my hyperbole. Never knew of or seen “Goodbye Uncle Tom” and glad I never have due to a quick cursory web search. I gladly acknowledge your reply.
Half are right, half are wrong....looking at the screen I'd say the right side is correct, and the left side is wrong....just like in real life.......see what I did there?
She was a senior in HS. I graduated at 17 she could've as well. What are you even talking about? The whole movie was about a girl freshman getting with a senior (who could've been 18). Are you kidding??
I get it but even today standards are wack women can attack men and rape men and nothing happened but a man slaps a woman or is drunk and has sex with a drunk women, which I should mention there have been studied where women are taking pills that get them more intoxicated so when they take a guy home or go home with a guy when they wake they can claim rape YAY women there are enough bad guys out there women don't need to be setting up the decent ones.
***** I finished college, so I don't really need a self-taught by internet "expert" trying to tell me what makes up an education and what doesn't. Nice try, though?
Movie Games the difference with Blazing Saddles was that it was satirically exposing racism in Hollywood. The other examples on this list are just flat out racist.
A time and a place. The "Violence against women" shown in this video though was actually awful however. Getting slapped by a man to "Calm her down" is wrong (especially if she completely ignores it and is somehow still oh-so romantically engaged by the guy). Getting beat in an actual fight is not. Getting choked by a big violent alien villain is certainly not.
+Kate Apples And yet violence against men is OK and is common place, yet any depictions of a woman being struck is oh so terrible. Why should women be placed on a pedestal and treated like children?
WatchMojo has a video about the best male/female fights in movies. In all of the scenes the fights were fair, it wasn't a man beating on a woman for no reason.
There's all kinds of reasons. The bullies will just come back; the bullies friends will join in; the bullies will get the benefit of the doubt; etc. I was told that a coworker of mine stood up to one and his boss twisted it as pride, he got ganged up on, was never asked of his side of the story, and had to jump through hoops while the bully was excused.
By relying on a higher authority to resolve their problems, this predisposes and ingrains in children subservience to higher authorities, preparing them to be serfs to the government.
Well shit, why even have police? BTW, they aren't saying NOT to stand up to bullies, they are saying that bullies in past movies were given power BY authority. Sounds like you bunch of morons WERE bullies.
Visit any channel about entertainment and quick facts that for some reason is associated to "pc culture", as Buzzfeed. You will find at least one video with as many dislikes as likes and it's comments section flooded with conservatives ecoing in unisson how much they hate feminism, libtards, anti-gun and pro-choice people and what not, for no good reason at all. You are definitely changing the world by going to your supposed enemies' channels and barking ill researched beliefs in mass and making anyone wonder which side of the "pc culture war" DOESN'T have completely deluded retards. Apparently agreeing with anything your enemies feminists and leftists have to say is a crime now... as if the "casual rape trope" should definitely be allowed to fly by as no big deal on movies these days.
Either way is actually correct, Nazi or German. The Nazi party wasn't a "movement" when Hitler took power, it wasn't a "movement" when Hitler started WW2...It WAS the German government. Didn't you notice all the swastikas? A political "movement" didn't declare war, the nation did. The German government did. We fought Germany's army which is made up of.....Germans. I wonder if Germans said "Those damn Republicans (or Democrats)" when referring to Americans? Maybe they had real "grammar Nazis"? This all ridiculous anyway, if you have to go kill people who gives a flying fuck what you call them? War ain't pretty. Never will be. (Funny how Hitler practiced a religion based on Judaism as he was trying to wipe out the Jews, he was Catholic wasn't he?) Oh wait...Catholicism isn't based on the bible, never mind.
No. Because to be an officer in the German military at the time, or to be considered for future promotion from private. You had to be a member of the Nazi party. So, more than 90% of all German soldiers were Nazis. Plus. The German military’s oath included the pledge to protect and serve *the Nazi party leadership*. Not the person who is president at the time, like our military. So, they were in direct service to the Nazi party, not their country, making them Nazis.
IcantSignIn in Germany at the start of WW2. The Nazi party was the only politically party you could be a part of, as every other political party was outlawed. So, you were either a Nazi, or you weren’t part of the government. That’s a far cry from the reality in the US, so your analogy makes zero sense. If our military pledged an Oath directly to the Republican or Democrat parties; as the Germans did to the Nazis. Then yes, you could call them Republican/Democrats instead of Americans. Just as Russians were referred to as Commies / The Reds, because you were either a Communist, or you weren’t a part of their government/military.
I don’t really see what’s wrong with “collecting cultural artifacts”. Not in the context of Indiana jones at least. I mean, nobody’s gonna miss it in a boobytrapped temple
@Adam Murdoch That is PC, literally the only thing they mentioned that's valid is the pg13 rating everything else is just whatever, regardless of it being offensive should be allowed in movies. It's not real you see people get shot all the time in movies but it's bad for someone to hit a girl? It's not okay to do but they're still not even comparable.
you're just a brain washed right nazi, it is not ok to put things in a muesem where they can live without being ruined, leave them in a booby trapped temple so they can, its not right that they woldnt be decrated there, they need to be left where they are in danger FUCKING RIGHT TARD
@@Marz2727 except it literally was in a temple booby trapped made by sometimes even aliens nobody misses the indiana jones artifacts as they tend to kill people
Uhm, no. Aside from a smoking Ray those things were not present in the Ghostbusters movies. And look at those horrible trailers for the new one, they're full of stereotypes. There are legit reasons to be very cautious of that movie but yours isn't one of them and, in fact, you are exactly why legit criticism gets shot down.
There was a casual rape joke in that movie when Peter calls the station to tell them about Dana/Zool. He says that he's drugged her up and then says something along the lines of "don't worry, I'm behaving myself."
"You mean I'm going to stay this color?" That was the absolute _funniest_ line ever in any movie! I laughed so hard the first time I saw it there was a moment where I was scared I wouldn't breathe again.
I don't overly see the issue for it now adays, unless it's being used in a specifically racist way. The reason it was such an issue back then, however, is people of color really didn't get leading roles. They more or less weren't allowed, so it would have been quite the kick in the balls to see a white person dawning some make-up and playing a role any actual person of color could have.
***** Of course I understand It had a negative stigma back in the day, when was the last time you saw blackface in a modern movie that was done overtly? It just doesn't happen any more, it's all for comedic purposes with no malice.
herranton1979 Does it though? I mean I've only ever seen the film it came from once, so I could very well be remembering this wrong, but I don't recall many stereo types in it. All I remember is a white actor, dressed to look black, acting as a white actor would. Then again I may just have to go look at it again.
I got bullied a lot growing up. I found that the most effective way to stop bullying was to wail on the bully, or at least explode/go nuclear on them. Way more effective than going to the principal or "waiting for an authority figure" to solve the problem.
Yet the critics of these tropes seem to be projecting prejudices and stereotypes of their own. The female critic says it's not right for men to hit women yet says nothing about women hitting men. Doesn't this smack of reverse sexism?
Haha, hell, in one clip a woman made a full lunge at the man, but it was the man that was being horrible when he lightly tapped her butt with his foot in response. Amazing.
"I don't believe you people!" -white guy "What do you mean, 'you people?'" -white guy pretending to be black "What do YOU mean 'you people!'" -actual black guy all time classic moment
“not fly today” meaning the vast majority of people wouldn’t go see it, and would encourage others not to see it either. It’s not like they were outlawed. Just like most people understand tricking someone into sex is a crime, so using it as a joke is in bad taste.
@@somerandomguy6749 haha based on all your other comments at the other comments and refusing to ever say something back, its pretty evident you're either just another dumbass troll. Or the dumb racist yourself and cant justify your bs!
Your right, the decline in decent movies has come about because now the only acceptable movie is a one written by a LGBTQZ (insert further Alphabet letters here) about a Black, Gender Fluid person who discovers that being a vegan and fuking dolphins is the meaning of life!!!!
"most bullies got their come upins in the end, it usually wasn't by an authority figure" .... YES! that was the point! to teach a lesson of STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. to have a backbone to stand up to bullies yourself.
Roman - Yep. It’s the reason I keep a book copy of Return of the King next to my DVDs. So when the Hobbits return home I pause to read “The scouring of the Shire”. My favourite part of the story. To show that all their adventures taught them to stand up against ruffians.
We have a right to collect those artifacts. Science trumps cultural "values". Not all cultures are equal. They just aren't. Western values are the only correct ones and always will be. You can't fault the West for being superior. Only we have the right values and morals.
AirCooledMan2006 I agreed with the first two sentences of yours, then you got a tad bit nationalistic. I prefer Western Culture and believe that it has contributed more to the world than any other regarding the bigger picture, but I would not use the term "superior" by any means, because no culture is really "superior", which is a term one cannot really even define. And there is no such thing as a single correct set of morals and values, by any means.
If you go further east, past the middle east that is, there are some asian countries that are very honor and respect based cultures. I can make some arguments for that over the 'everyone for himself and HEAR MY OPINION' culture we have in the west.
MisterCharlton Western culture IS superior. PEOPLE are equal. CULTURES are not. That said, what the fuck do the SJWs want to do? Stop archaeology? It's this "let's respect other cultures" mindset that holds back scientific progress! Modernity and science trump cultural traditions, tribal or otherwise!
"Bullies may be the villains of some classic kids movies, but why the hell do the parents or teachers never seem to care what's going on?" Seems pretty accurate for 30 years ago.
@@wanderinwolf3804 Dozens of school shootings later and people still pretend that they give a damn and want to do something about it. It's pretty pathetic at this point. Just going around in circles.
@@joshgellis9463 is it racist when the Wayne brothers do white face? As a mixed race person I don't understand what difference it makes. Nobody chooses the color they're born and nobody means any harm by it.
You can't depict a period piece about the 40s or 50s with the cultural attitudes that actually existed back then? "Where are all of the authority figures to deal with the bullying?" They actually didn't care back then or ever until Columbine. That's the reality. Stop neutering our movies.
@@badmadison5734 so you are saying black face was a celebration of African American culture rather than a racist effigy meant to make fun of and dehumanize African Americans?
It is still one of my favorite movies! The thing a lot of people don't get is, the biggest idiots in the film are the WHITE GUYS. If anything, the movie makes fun of white people and our stereotypical attitudes. I guess you have to be a little bit perceptive to get the humor fully... Besides, where do y'all think that salsa company got the idea for their "New York City?!" commercial? Hmmm?
I'm glad slavery is over and tabacco companies no longer lie to us saying how harmless they were while the executives themselves didn't touch a single stick. Yeah, those days :p
If a woman hits a man, she's a hero. But if a man hits a woman, people call it an act of abusive harassment. Does anybody else see anything wrong here?
Is it a double-standard? Absolutely. It's just on part of the whole problem though. A. We shouldn't be promoting violence as a positive thing except in extreme circumstances. B. It's indicative that we have different behavioural expectations of men and women. It's not really about one gender or another - it's about how we create arbitrary rules based on genitalia/outward appearance that should either apply to everyone or no one. *sigh*
No one has called a woman a hero for hitting a man. Your claim is idiotic. But in case you're questioning whether it's abusive to hit a woman, yes it is. Do you know what abuse is?
It makes her an abuser. It makes her an unstable person unable to control herself, just like it does a man. It's the same offence. But there is a double standard because we are not equal.
+Mikihara that's bullshit. Anytime a women hits a man, the man is asked if he provoked her, and is victim blamed. The women also gets a pat on the back, the man gets belittled, and laughed at.
Bullying wasn't exactly acceptable, but movies exaggerate things to make them more grandiose for the screen and, people had a mindset where if your having a problem, you need to learn to deal with that problem, not wait for someone to fix it for you. Ralphy wouldn't have been half as admirable if his mom had to come and stop him from being picked on, Heavyweights wouldn't even have been a movie if the kids didn't fight back against ben stiller, And the neverending story wouldn't have that over the top scene where sebastian gets back the bullies with the help of a Dragon. Bullies allow for character development, and that is a good thing.
Okay, character development is one thing. The other thing is the power of cinema. You have these glorious heroes who deal with their bulies, and then people who watch them are ashamed to tell adults or somebody in power that something is wrong because they think they have to "deal with it". And if they are not "strong" enough to "deal with it", then doesn't matter their mental scars and mental disorders that will stem from that in a dozen years or so.
As far as I know, HR departments in some of the more civilised companies take care of that sort of thing. You don't have to cry, but work is a place of WORK, not bullying. That's sort of an adult thing to do, get rid of it... The same as blaming the pereptrator, not the victim. :P And please read carefully what I wrote above, because you apparently don't understand.
Michael Anderson Im sorry, but you miss the point, or rather you avoid it by avoiding to answer my arguments. First of all, movies are not censored, they are critized, please, learn the difference. We 're going in circles... But fine, as an answer to your last argument please, read my first comment here, youll get an answer to your lack of argument. Nobody ever said standing up for yourself is not a good thing, but we shouldnt expect it from children. It mostly grows not from being put in a compromising position precisely, but from having self confidence to deal with it. Gaining self confidence has to be rooted in strong family support. Asking for help and being vulnerable are necessary things to learn in life in order to be mentally healthy, especially for men, who usually dont get to learn how to be vulnerable and ask for help. And adults are the people who should react to bullying, not "teaching" kids by ignoring them.
You do Mr. Nixon. No one should be able to take away the right to be homophobic from you and most intelligent people don't want to take away anything from you, instead they will probably try to change your mind. It's just when homophobic people are trying to take away rights from gay people that they step in. Like whomever you like, and hate whomever you hate, just let everyone else have the same rights you have and everything is fine.
It's like how you have the right to be an idiot, and I have the right to say your an idiot. The problem is when I treat you like your not a human or you don't deserve rights, like most homophobes do to gays.
@@joeschranz4525 Lots of hot chicks and fat jokes in Married With Children. Al Bundy had no filter and would be murdered by feminist groups..... I never seen Last Man Standing.
+JohnSmith a person with an anime picture who likes to use the term sjw.. never seen that before. almost makes me ashamed that I like anime. I know that not all anime fans are like you though.
i just want to say..the trope about authority figures taking a lax attitude towards bullying, could be an example of what tv tropes calls “truth in television “. because during that time, even in the 80’s and 90’s , at least in the schools I went to, the authority figures really did take a lax attitude towards bullying. often looking the other way and letting the bullies get away with it, or punishing the victims when the victims fight back and and then brushing it off , telling the victims to simply “ignore the bullies” or even going so far as to make up excuses for the bullies, claiming the victims have a “persecution complex” and it’s all in their heads.
You have to understand too, that some authority figures can't take action against bullies, not because they don't care, but all the legal ramifications and the possibility of being sued. We have not only become a more offended society, but a more litigious one as well, and many people don't want a lawsuit for simply doing their job.
To true! I was generally told to "tell a teacher..." hahahaha like that was going to work, I actually tried it once, just to see. I told the teacher exactly what the bully did, he fairly well hurt me, the teacher responded by giving the bully a dressing down (verbally), nothing else, no punishment of any sort, the bully then laughed in my face and in clear view of the teacher give me a hip & shoulder on the way passed. The teacher responded to that little gem with, "Joe that's enough" I think back and laugh these days but I think it pretty much sums up the cosy relationship between bullies and teachers in the 80s.
Geez, you really are disappointed that you don't have heroes to cheer as these rape and abuse women? You have some twisted values. Why do you enjoy things like that?
@@messiejessie92 Please explain how everything is interpreted in the worst way possible and that people are not even allowed to laugh at themselves. The fact that you don't understand my original post illustrates quite clearly what the fucking problem is. Have a nice day.
@@Clarence2WorleyOF COURSE people can laugh at themselves. The topic at hand is about the tropes that wouldn't fly today SUCH AS homophobia, racism, sexism, etc. I just don't think you followed your own train of thought to the end. Prejudices are accepted poorly now as they always should have been. If I come across racism, I will 100% take it the worst possible way because a racist will deserve no benefit of the doubt from me in this day and age. In the age of technology, our access to knowledge is so readily available so that kind of deliberate ignorance isn't going to sit well with many people.
"I was born...a poor black child" Probably my favorite line ever in a comedy movie. Still flies today, and it's still funny to anyone with a sense of humor.
The Jerk was not offensive. Navin couldn't have been raised by a more loving family. They didn't care about the color of each other's skin. BTW Navin kicked the shit out of a bunch of racists, well except Iron Balls McGinty.
"Casual attitude towards slavery" Well, no. If the movie is portraying history in an accurate manner, it does not mean anything about it's "attitude". Except that it's not lying. Historical depiction is not a trope, as far as I'm aware. It's pretty backwards to imply that you should in fact NOT be accurate historically, just so your attitude is acceptable. Seems dangerously ignorant, in fact.
More Gun Free Man that’s what I thought at first but if you watch the video for like two more seconds, she means the slaves appearing happy to be slaves would no longer be seen in movies
Yes, not portraying certain societies as casually accepting slavery is whitewashing history. Curiously enough, this video says that a different type of whitewashing would be unacceptable today... the whitewashing that did not depict the cruelty that was commonplace against slaves.
It's worse than that...they complained about generalizations in the previous example, then proceed to generalize in the next one regarding slavery, an extremely complex sociological topic.
I'm Mexican and I have absolutely no problem with Speedy Gonzalez and Frito Bandito which were voiced by the legendary voice actor Mel Blanc a white person. Also I might add have no problem with "brown face" for example in the film The Good, the Bad and Ugly Eli Wallach portrayed the Mexican character Tuco and many Italians in spaghetti westerns were supposed to be Mexicans. My dad loves those films and we would watch them when I was young and still do. Another actor was Martin Landau to be portrayed as a Mexican in an episode of The Rifleman as the bandit Miguel Patrone. Jenette Goldstein was of course Private Vasquez in Aliens(1986) with a spanish speaking accent. More recently 2003's Once Upon A Time in Mexico, starred Willem Dafoe as Armando Barillo a Mexican drug lord which was directed by Robert Rodriguez a Mexican dude. Now Sure you might say some of these characters are "bad hombres" but what is the big deal. There are bad people in all races no race is innocent that is human nature but there is also good people in all races. In a more comedic film, Jack Black as Nacho in Nacho Libre is supposed to be half Mexican and half Scandinavian. Don't even get me started on cultural appropriation like Mario's mexican attire and the Tostarena level for that matter, how is that offensive? Another example on 5 de mayo I really don't care if white people or other races wear sombreros and everything else that is done on that day. I don't get whats offensive about that so do not tell me why I should be offended or that my opinion is wrong, this is my OPINION we can still have those right? Mariachis are originally Italian meaning Mexico appropriated that and some African music with the Marimba as well and Banda music has it's roots in German Polka, Cumbia is originally from Colombia not Mexico cultural appropriation happens everywhere and it's not bad. The people that think it's bad are liberals that think they need to speak for us and mexican americans that go to liberal college, support Aztlan, think they are oppressed, blame whites for everything and get "woke". I was born in the U.S. and I am in college but I stand firm in my beliefs. I do support some liberal views and much more conservative views since I am Catholic as most Mexicans are but this PC stuff is just crazy. I do not hate any race but dislike individuals instead, either very liberal or very conservative. Of course I acknowledge actual racism and will not allow that. Point is I want to share my culture and not everything should be taken offence to. Tengan buen dia.
cultural appropiation is ridiculous. however some stereotypes out there about mexicans are just not true. The most balant and offensive "Call of Juarez" game, there was a mission to rescue white girls from mexico that were abducted in US to be prostitutes in Mexico. Holy shit! That's just not true, if anything it's the other way around. Prostitution is more valuable in the US and kidnapping is punished more harshly in the US. It doesnt make sense to do the crime in US and get paid pesos in Mexico.
I think the entire concept of "race" itself is pretty silly, and that it shouldn't be a factor in who gets a role as long as that actor can pull it off naturalistically. We can't even agree on how many races there actually are! Depending on whether people of mixed race form their own races, and depending on whether Pacific Islanders are actually Asian, etc., there may be as few as four or as many as 19 races! We also can't agree on what makes a person "white," or where Europe ends and other continents begin. At one point we went so far as to believe that every ethnicity (nation) was its own race and that they were all genetically distinct. English people and French people were thought to be two different "races" - albeit two very similar ones - and that having either English blood or French blood shaped one's character. We obviously haven't believed that in the past half-century, since in MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL English actors played French stereotypes without anyone (except maybe some sensitive French people) complaining. But the real point is that every person is different both on the outside and (moreso) on the inside; and so whenever you cast anyone in anything, unless you have people play themselves, there is going to be "washing" of some kind. In THE DEER HUNTER Christopher Walken was Nikanor Chevotarevich - Russian-American, Catholic, and a steelworker, while in real life he is none of those three things. And yet everyone agrees that was one of his greatest roles. Also, think of all the Gentile actors who have portrayed Jews: Robert De Niro, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams; given Jewish-American political activism, I would have guessed there'd have been more complaints about that (even if the producers who cast them were often Jewish). Not to speak of Charlton Heston, who not only has portrayed two Jews, but was also cast as Muhammad in a controversial 1977 film (before the studio was warned not to cast ANYONE as Muhammad, since Islam forbids his depiction in any form)! I've learned that political correctness is very arbitrary, often based more on who has political clout and how "assmiliated" a group is at any point in history or in any location than on anything truly accurate.
Alfred Fiore what a shame there are not a lot more people with your sense,maybe then humans could involve into civilization n outlaw war.good luck with your course hombres,Bueno fortuna.
I was told the Mexicans got offended by removing Speedy because that was their character. Inclusion breeds exclusion. As far as actors playing a different race, Tropic Thunder and White chicks spring to mind. It's acting, it's not uncommon. In the old days women weren't allowed to be actors in plays, so every character was a man. Probably made sex scenes weird though...
Standing up for yourself is great. But some people can't due to certain anxiety issues. If you can stand up for yourself, great. But if not, there is absolutely no shame in asking for help
@ iwishicouldbefunny You’re right. There is no harm in ASKING for help. And sometimes that is exactly what should happen. The one being bullied should ask for help so they can learn how to do that, not have an adult step in before being asked. I’m not saying that bullying is ok, but it is a scenario in the “growing up” process that kids should learn from and use later in life... “can I handle this myself or do I need help?”....NOT “I should just be scared and hide until somebody else voluntarily steps in on my behalf to solve my problems for me”
Well some people are more sensitive than others and if you knew anything on how a child's brain develops than you should know that not every child can suppress their emotions
pizza steve then those kids will just have to grow up, mature and get thicker skin. But yes I also agree with “iwishicouldbefunny” but still even kids with such anxiety will have to face it and grow from it at some point
the only one that I would very strongly agree with is rating horror movies as PG. I'm glad they now have more categories. Then if there are any of these other topics that are too much for small children to handle, you can rate them PG 13. Problem solved.
Meh, I always saw Tropic Thunder as more of making fun of the person who thought blackface was ok, more than African Americans themselves. He's not trying to play a black man, but rather he's playing an actor playing a black man. At least that's how I saw it. Curious about others' opinions
That's true. I think some people were just upset about seeing a White actor in blackface. That alone can be traumatizing for some who have been mocked due to their skin color (colorism vs. racism), physical features, and use of language (speaking colloquially "Black" or using Ebonics). Downey, Jr. handled that role well and did it justice. I can't picture another actor fitting that role and Brandon T. Jackson's balance of representing Black masculinity in "Tropic Thunder" helps dramatically.
@@jinakaye yes, you can be offended by blackface, that is your right. Same reason why I never watch white chicks ever again...because no matter how you look at it, that was nightmarish whiteface xD (guess it was an eye for an eye joke somewhere in there, sorry)
@@TheChill001: I get offended by the unnecessary use of it. I think "Black Like Me" was in poor taste, for example, but Spike Lee's use of it in "Bamboozled" was genius. I liked it for "Tropic Thunder", as well. I have no problem with Kabuki Whiteface or how it was used for "White Chicks", but Tyra Banks using it for ANTM was quite offensive.
@@jinakaye thank god for people that are actually fun to dicuss things with on youtube. And yes, unnecessary use in either way is just not done. The cases in which it either actually tries to point out the issue (tropic thunder) or where perhaps a setting demands it can be tolerated depending on the seriousness of the issue at hand and if it is in any way derogative or not.
There are lessons to be learned behind most of these tropes. We have unfortunately taught newer generations to become more fragile emotionally, physically, and psychologically.
Love how they show THE QUIET MAN for violence against women, one of the plot points in the movie is that he won't treat her like that but she insists that he does
Not to mention that he wasn't being violent at all. Pushing / dragging a person to a meeting that they need to get to isn't violence. That's like saying holding down a drug addict in withdrawal is "violence against addicts".
Heh. I wonder if audiences from 75 years ago were to look at the stuff WE watch today, suppose they'd find tropes in it that wouldn't fly in their day? I'm guessing they wouldn't take well to all the gratuitous violence, gore, excessive cursing, crude humor, explicit sexual content...wait a minute, what exactly changed?
@@plainlake I actually find that kind of funny. There were female leaders in ancient literature from the Bible to Aristophanes. Interracial couples, too (Ruth & Boaz, Jason & Medea, Othello & Desdemona, etc.). As for homosexuality...have you read the dialogues of Plato? But I get it, we're talking about 75 years ago, not 2,000. That's the thing: if you ask me, censorship is a pretty recent thing. 70 years ago they censored homosexuality, profanity and explicit sex. Today we censor the kind of things described in this video plus anything that offends the Muslims. Imagine what future generations will censor of us.
somehow...that last one doesn't count...movies of the seventies and eighties had a lot more full frontal nudity...these days there's an uproar in the US for a simple nipslip...but than again, that's the US, not europe...
Based on the clip, does WM even know what "cultural appropriation" is supposed to mean? It's normal for outsiders to wear Indian garb during a ceremony (weren't the Darlings being made honorary tribe members, anyway?).
Behind the Scenes Photos I have to agree with you somewhat. Was it a horrible stereotype? Hell yeah! Cultural appropriation? Not so much! I know for a fact that none of my family members look like the “injuns”, ok I have a cousin who kinda looks like Tigerlily, but still. I have never personally seen anyone wear regalia that wasn’t part of that tribe, but I’m only one person and not every tribe. So I guess the answer is... yes and no🤷🏽♀️
I can't believe Watchmojo actually used the term "cultural appropriation". Yeah, this is where I cross the line. If I want to see a freak show, I just browse r/tumblrinaction. Unsubscribed.
probably because cultural appropriation is a real thing. Would I go so far as to say that hairstyles are cultural appropriation? no. But it does exist lmao.
ThePickleUpYourNose Well, yeah, in the sense of a white woman thinking she is actually black. Wearing a native american costume, so long as you don't paint your face red, is hardly cultural appropriation. It is real, in essence, but taken way too far...still don't understand what is u[ with the historical artifact honorable mention. That made me angry for no apparent reason.
MisterCharlton Wearing a native american costume is actually pretty disrespectful. The same as wearing a geisha costume, or dressing up as a jewish/muslim/mexican person. Portraying negative stereotypes about races is not funny.
+MisterCharlton if by "native American costume" you mean the war bonnet, yes, that's appropriation. It's not a cute accessory, it's something that has to be earned. It's literally the equivalent of a Purple Heart medal. Military people do not appreciate non-military people wearing medals they did not earn, and Plains tribes do not appreciate non-Natives wearing war bonnets they did not earn. There are other items, like moccasins, that are intended for general use and are not appropriation.
At 3:10: "Why did the parents or teachers never seem to care about what's going on"? Because that's how it was back then! I remember, from when I was a kid - as late as the 1980s, that when I said I had been bullied, my parents would just say "well, then you gotta stand up for yourself and fight back" and do absolutely nothing to help me. Back then bullying was considered a natural part of childhood - some are bullied, some are bullys, and that's just how it is. The same can be said about many others of the examples in this video: That's just how things were when the movies were made.
Yeah, you sometimes have to fight for yourself. Asking for everyone else to fight for you all the time, get you in a lot of trouble when you reach adulthood. Also, trying to shame the bully in front of everybody by show of hand like was shown in the video with Tina Fey, isn't much better. Why do you think bullies exists? (not directed at you, just a question in general) They aren't born bullies.
I've been bullied and I've bullied other people. In the end I don't think much of it. It is exactly what you say, part of childhood and learning about wtf is going on in life. Often the anti-bully people piss me off way more, as they are adults attacking young children for "being a bully". That's also bullying, but on a worse level.
Agreed. It seems like now every time there's a bully, an authority figure steps in to stop it. Exactly what does that teach anyone, aside from teaching the bully to be a bully where the authority figures can't see? Obviously there's times where an authority figure should absolutely step in, for example when serious physical harm is likely, otherwise kids need to learn to stand on their own two feet with minimal sheltering and coddling.
@@MrXxsoulessniperxx - So? I guess you're saying violence committed by a woman against a man is acceptable or else it would not be considered funny and be on sitcoms?
@@2009champs1 If the guy let's himself get smacked around, sure it's hilarious because he's letting it happen. Most men would defend themselves, woman or man. If you're offended by a guy on tv show getting hit, then you're just a snowflake😂
Mammy from Gone With The Wind wasn't a stereotype. She was an archetype of the time the movie was set. And if you look at the character, she was the sensible level-headed one. Amongst a bunch of hysterical, snobby white people. Who if only they listened to her advice, would've avoided a lot of strife.
Yeah, but these progressive goofballs are too hysterical to know the subtle distinctions between a stereotype and an archetype. And so true about Mammy, it is a point that modern liberals don't want to hear, she was actually the smartest person in the room.
I totally agree. African-Americans of the Civil War period were not afforded much of an education. Mammy was typical of the period in which the movie was set, not a stereotype. She had great insight and common sense.
1) You can't include "violent PG movies" on this list cause you explained there was no PG-13 rating when those movies were released. 2) How on Earth is Shortround from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom considered a "non-ironic racial caricature"? 3) How is "collecting cultural artifacts" like in Raiders of the Lost Ark offensive? Were you looking for things to be offended by?
Keith O'Neil The stealing artifacts trope would not fly today, but not because it is offensive but because it upsets the preservation of unreplaceable history.
This is a controversy that has been going on at least since the early 19th century, when English archaeologists unearthed the Elgin marbles in Greece and brought them back to England. Historically, countries did not have "intellectual property rights." If your country lost a war and was looted and the enemy made off with your national treasures, that was that - unless YOU beat THEM in a war later on and took those things back, along with the enemy's own treasures. As for archaeology: It was a science that was developed in Europe - and in northern Europe primarily - and that took an interest in artifacts to be found in ALL parts of the world. Many countries did not have archaeological departments at their universities - or universities at all, for that matter - or even public museums to house their treasures. They were probably content with receiving international publicity as a result of their excavations being displayed.
At about the 11:02 mark you have Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs) as "Antagonist is a stereotype". Buffalo Bill was inspired by a real person named Ed Gein. He was a "body snatcher" and murderer that actually used human skin to make lamp shades and upholstered his chairs and other things. Police found human breasts and even a vagina he had cut off and presumably wore. While I get your point, there is actual basis in fact for this particular character.
Like I hear. First off, soul man is a great movie. And the character was not wearing blackface in order to replace a black actor with a white actor. The whole point was that it was a spoiled rich white dude that tried to appropriate programs that are used to level the playing field for black people. But he learned the error of is ways in the movie. And as for Robert Downey jr., as the presenter said, direction making fun of the use of blackface brownface yellowface in movies.
Song of the South was a post Civil war movie. The proof is that Uncle Remus decides to leave the plantation at the end of the movie because he didn't want to live there after the boy was killed.
Yes, it does take place AFTER slavery, during the time when the freed slaves (the ones who did not move far away from their former owners) were forging a new relationship with the people who had previously owned them. Contrary to modern lore, not every slave owner was harsh and abusive, and once freed, many former slaves remained in the same areas and often worked for their former owners. ( www.quora.com/How-many-slaves-stayed-with-their-masters-after-emancipation-and-why ) "Song of the South" depicts one such situation. BTW, at the end of the movie, Remus believes that he has inadvertently caused too much trouble with his constant story telling, and decides to leave town and move to Atlanta. Little Johnny, who loves Remus and his stories, runs across a field to catch Remus' coach before he leaves, but he is run down and gored by a bull. The child is badly hurt (nearly comatose) and the whole community - white AND black - gathers at the house to pray and sing. Johnny's grandma, a wise old woman, fetches Remus, who comes to the boy's bedside. He begins to tell him a story, and the boy comes to... Uncle Remus is the wisest person in the film, and the only one who consistently puts the children's needs before his own. Anyone who does not recognize the depth of heart and soul in this wonderful film is a Br'er-Bear-class idiot - and has likely never actually SEEN (or saw and somehow did not absorb) the film in question.
@@ADeCosa59 "Contrary to modern lore, not every slave owner was harsh and abusive, and once freed, many former slaves remained in the same areas and often worked for their former owners." Do you find it funny how American slavery is always considered violent and oppressive, but if you can get them to admit there was slavery outside of America. They make excuses for how it wasn't as bad as American slavery.
@@MorphicStates I was just thinking about that as well. It's like the world has forgotten that slavery has existed since Ancient times and people of every ethnicity have been subjected to it at one point.
@@ADeCosa59 Slavery was HORRIBLE and there is no excuse for it, BUT it is also Western Civilization that finally outlawed slavery. It has existed as an evil for thousands of years. Some think that it was actually an improvement, as prior to slavery, when one tribe conquered another, they simply killed everyone. But once slavery became a thing, they didn't kill them, they enslaved them... as far as Southern slavery, it was horrible but because people are people, some masters/mistresses were kinder than others, some were worse. So yes, in some cases slaves might feel loyalty or affection and vice versa. That doesn't mean it was OK, though. But you are also right, Song of the South was set AFTER slavery... and Remus is the wisest character, so it's sorta anti-racist, actually.
03:10 "Why the hell do the parents or teachers never seem to care what's going on?" The answer is: because they don't. That's why. My friend was bullied and no one gave a shit except him and me. The teachers even bullied me for caring about him.
Obviously you never watched The Crying Game. Same situation a little exaggerated....but the man in The Crying Game when he found out the woman she was in love with was a man the scene ended exactly like Ace Ventura at the bottom of the shower,, crying
So political correctness is not only telling us how to say something, but how to feel. Yeah, great comedy if Jim Carrey breaks the fourth wall and says, "Okay she was a man, I kissed him and I thought she was a woman. That's okay, though. I shouldn't discriminate someone for being what they really are. Men who dress up like women are still a vital component of our society. "
"a straight guy isn't allowed to be grossed out by kissing a man?" Nope. In today's society you will be labeled as a hater unless you get aroused kissing a man and go all the way.
#1 is blazing saddles Mel Brooks. Nothing is off limits in that movie. If you get a room full of different folks together to see it, by the end everyone is laughing because none of it is serious. It's ment to shock and it does! God bless you and keep the vlogs Coming.
Coincidentally (IIRC), Mel Brooks is on-record as saying that they were going to go farther with the "black guys have big d1cks" joke with the weinerschnitzel - and that they had to cut that gag back some. That movie is a classic.
There's a difference, of course. Those classic movies were not even trying to disturb people (unless they were horror films, of course); they actually thought they were being wholesome. Now filmmakers are called "old-school" if they offend just for the sake of offending - and, of course, they have to throw sexual stuff in there, too, just to prove they're doing so.
SeasideDetective2 exactly. Mossy of the movies they showcased here addressed the issue at hands by putting into the limelight, not just mindless drivel like most today's movies.
@@Cooldude-ko7ps it ain't called being soft it's called being sensitive which is a good thing. Imagine you are the POTUS and you are negotiating with the president of China and you greet him by saying "hello my little yellow friend", the negotiations would be pretty much downhill from there.
pizza steve yes you have a point there but yes it is understandable that people will get offended by racism against their race. But I’m just saying that most people are soft and have thin skin because people keep on getting offended by the most minuscule and ridiculously things.
***** Because it's pandering to the sensitivities of adult people with a range of "no-no" so wide, you might as well be talking to little children. It's pathetic.
+Aivottaja It doesn't necessarily have to be though. When you're talking about stuff like rape it is necessary to give a warning because there could be a possible rape victim listening to you. Do you think that rape victims are too sensitive?
***** There is no way to know what kind of things are sensitive to whomever, except graphic violence and things children are not allowed to see. That's why we have viewer discretions. This video doesn't contain anything worthy of that. Besides, you don't give "trigger warnings" for difficult subjects such as sexual violence. Trigger warning is a fucking safeword for the SJW mentality. They're basically warnings for people that they might feel the need to discuss something or express their opinion, perhaps passionately.
I no longer have children of school age. But relatives who do have assured me that bullying hasn't changed much. Schools still look the other way and tell the target to "just ignore it, honey."
Idk only people I see getting offended is people like you. You cry about fucking everything that might have the slightest possibility it could be considered "SJW." I swear I could say "man, nazis suck" and hear half of you bitches whine about how I'm such a fucking feminist lol
I just keep thinking how in ten years time we're going to look back and say, "Remember when Top 10 videos were considered non-offensive?" Here's to growth.
Honestly in order to tell a story some movies need to use real life aspects such as rape bullying etc. Ppl getting triggered because of a movie that used rape (as an example) as the main characters motive is unbelievable no wonder most movies are so cliche these days its because writers would rather stay in the safezone than be blacklisted
Old school movies: Bullies are a thing and you should stand up for yourself because mommy isn't going to be there your whole life to help you this was the better way to do it
Eerie, great in theory but the real world doesn't work out like that. There will always be that kid that just won't listen, or that one parent who thinks their kid can do no wrong.
I think society has REGRESSED not “progressed.” This perpetual, “I’m offended at everything” is 1.) annoying and 2.) destroyed comedy. We all did it in fun! We CELEBRATED our differences by laughing at each other and everyone got along. Today, everyone is a bunch of selfish, entitled, spineless, pansies.
I have got to agree with the new rating system though. I watched some movies as a young kid that should have been rated PG 13. So many nightmares could have been avoided by a proper rating system.
@@lightbulb8869 : Having PG-13 is good. Red Dawn started all that in 1984. But we shouldn't be so easily offended by everything. We have no real comedy anymore.
RunFor OurLives that’s like saying there are many different types of feminists. It sounds good on paper but the reality of the situation is that it’s progressed and devolved into what it is now. Either left or right. There’s no middle ground these last few years. So if you lean to the left you will unfortunately be placed in the same room with the rest of the left.
Who cares, it's a movie. All these things can happen in the same movie and it wouldn't matter. It's all about telling a story, if your story has to do with a race being outcasted it doesn't mean you believe it, it means the people in the story you created believe it.
But it's not just a movie it sways people's mindset for the worst. Like stereotypes in movies make people think that's how a certain group of people are and they act on it; for example many movies show black men as dangerous when people watch the movies they think they are dangerous so they walk across the street when they see a black man.
You had to go pretty far back for clips of men hitting their female love interest. It was far more common though in Hollywood movies to show women slapping a love interest and you don't have to go nearly as far back to see it. It happens multiple times in the 2011 movie 'New Year's Eve.' It also occurs in 'Groundhog Day' and 'When Harry Met Sally' and many other movies.
RDJs role in Tropic Thunder was making fun of the fact, that Hollywood would rather use a white accomplished actor in blackface rather than a actual black actor. They made a huge point out of it, when they showed his backstory, when he was preparing for that role and the role before that. Before his blackface he went to india i think and lived there making shoes to prepare for a role. His blackface was satirical and poking fun at the practice as a whole.
I think the point of the blackface is satirizing actors who go to extreme lenghts for their role. Think DeNiro in "Raging Bull".
I took the cast as a joke about the industry's habit of casting an action star with a comedian, rap star, and/or academy award caliber actor in action flicks in an effort to attract movie-goers of varying genres. RDJ was the academy star that played layers (I'm a dude playing a dude disguised an another dude).Anyone thinking this was a slight to black people is too sensitive.
there was multiple levels to the joke. The first was the method acting elements of RDJ character along with the extreme lengths he took for the role. Like not breaking character until after the dvd commentary.
The other layer was that a good black supporting part was given to a white actor instead of a black actor, forcing him to go into blackface, in general, the script would just be whitewashed, but this being a "historic" movie the character's race was already known so he put on black face.
and the real black actor was left as the background character without any real lines. you knot that token b lack guy@@TheBanshee90
What about the booty sweat guy?? He was actualy black
Bullying was a big theme in Harry Potter. No one ever did anything about Draco. The only person who did was Barty Crouch. Even in the books, Dumbledore, McGonagall, and all the others gave zero fucks.
Cause besides Dumbledore, McGonagall, and Hagrid the rest were either afraid of his father or the story is somehow too typical for bullies.
Apart from anything else the maurders in Harry Potter are glorified to the high heavens, when in reality they were nothing more than a group of bullies, they were far worse then Draco,he's barely a bully they had maybe 2/3 arguments per book, James physically tortured Snape on a daily basis for years
lol never thought of it that way. in fact, because the movie was so matter-of-fact about it, i guess i tended to be as well
+Mills Obb I hated that so much. They were allowed to be dick holes because they were Griffyndors. She really is obsessed with her own house.
+Minh Hoang I don't think Dumbeldore was a good headmaster. Hagrid continually said that Hogwarts was the safest place in the magical world, yet every year Harry almost dies. I used to think he was great when I was younger, but now that I'm old, I wouldn't send my kids to Hogwarts if I had. any. But, I don't know if Dumbledore was afraid of Lucius as he could stare down Voldemort and not flinch.
the problem is we feel the need impose our morality on things that came out years before. What is is.....we can not change the past...dont ignore it...dont cover it up ..learn and move on
This is a very sensible take. Wish your comment had more likes rather than the ones calling everyone snowflakes.
100%! Let the past be and all shall learn from it.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
If we did not look upon past horrors with modern eyes, doomed, to repeat them aren't we. Some of those things should be teaching tools but never again templates for behaviors to recreate. If you mean, don't overly dwell upon them, instead of move on and not hold them as examples then yeah.
Exactly right. People think of Abraham Lincoln as a great American president today, but if we were to analyze some of his beliefs when he was alive some of the things he believed would be racist when compared to the standards of today.
The Breakfast Club would not happen today.
1. Clarke's hazing would go viral.
2. Johnson's gun in the locker would have made the news and he would have gone to MHS lockdown.
3. Claire's family would have bulliied the administration out of the detention, short of threatening a lawsuit.
4. Bender would have blown it off.
5. Ally would have never shown up.
6. There are always at least teachers on campus on weekends. They would have not been left alone in the library.
Personally I think the main reason a lot of those tropes wouldn't happen in modern productions is be ause the context changed, not just because they became less tolerable. Now, the presence of smartphones, different policies to handle fighting and bullying and other forms of bullying (cyberbullying for one) mean things would be quite different. However, a production set in the past usually portrays how a different context, though the sensibilities will mix between portraying the balues of those days and those of now to make it accurate but pallatable to the audience
7. There would be cell phone recordings everywhere.
I had a bully in high school. I confronted said bully one day, broke his nose, and got suspended. However, no more bully AND a few days of vacation from school. Win-Win!
@mastershake9801
THANK YOU!
I was being bullied until I got the green light from my parents, (they taught me to not fight in school), to take care of the problem. Next time out, me and the bully went toe-to-toe and after I whipped his @$$, no more problems...from ANYone. The cool part was, my teachers let me make up the work I missed because of the suspension.
I'd have thought 'child triumphing over their bully' would be seen as more of a victory than 'bully is disciplined by an authority figure,' but apparently not from what watchmojo has to say.
The sad thing is that people now think that authorities care because they now deal with bullies. When in actuality the authority figures are told they should care and have forms to fill in to show how they care about bullying. Truth is they don't give a hoot like teachers of the past it's just they have to do it now
Cue Brent Rambo gif.
Exactly had similar story. It was a modern morality tale. Handle things on your own. Grow some balls and show them you Have a backbone to stand up for your self.
I'm getting really tired of caring whether people are offended or not.
Be like me and no longer give a crap. :)
I believe in discrimination equality everyone gets shit.
Exactly. If you don't like the way Asians are depicted by white people, make harold and kumar and depict White guys as idiot frat boys. Nobody got offended when they did that, and nobody should have been offended
For the most part being offended is a deliberate choice. You should be offended if someone personally and directly disrespects or assaults you or your property. My grandfather said he hated everyone equally.
Coincidence that Dirty Harry is your profile picture then lol.
I love how the first one mentioned is 'everybody smokes(cigarettes)', yet modern films show characters smoking cannabis and taking other drugs!
They also don't seem to understand that films often portrayed racism, sexism, bullying, slavery etc. to highlight bad things/attitudes that happen(ed) in society to make people think about them.
I get what you're saying about drugs and smoking today, however, the difference is that today, ratings are influenced by those things, and they weren't before. You will not find PG films with drugs and smoking, they will have higher ratings. PG stands for "parental guidance", and only "G" is "for everybody". So honestly, it's up to the consumer at this point to be aware of ratings. But I agree, it's being portrayed as "insignificant" for sure. As if nothing's wrong with doing drugs.
Drugs are better
@@parimabartender drugs are good m’kay?
Movie characters getting high is such a boring overused trope these days. I definitely agree with drugs being the new cigarettes.
I'm offended that everything is offensive now days.
If it's so offensive, they can now rate it as PG 13 and young, impressionable children won't watch it.
Wow you are sooooo stupid.
Jimmy M - it isn’t that it’s necessarily offensive, it’s more that we’ve outgrown these perspectives culturally and intellectually. They reflect the assumptions of their time, which are no longer relevant.
For example, slaves were not content and jovial in their servitude and no woman ever benefitted from being slapped.
Adam Murdoch - so a good slap does sort a woman out and being a slave was just a jolly sing-along?
Adam Murdoch - haha, no bother. The TH-cam comments section isn’t the easiest thing to follow.
I could have sworn this was fucking satire when they said a CGI Star Wars alien was racist
It's a pussy new world
yeah, bs! ITS A FUCKING ALIEN RACE! godam!
***** Accent is Jewish and based on Stereotypes. If he was selling slaves with a Texas accent, those defending it would be condemning it ...
***** It's not like George Lucas based these off real aliens he saw in the real world. He based them off things in his own mind and his perspective on the world. Doesn't matter if it's aliens or people or monsters.
MicoDossun
i guess but what if he just liked the accent of the voice? did people laugh when they heard the accent? i dont think so they accepted it. If your not intentionally being rascist why should you not have the freedom to chose what your own fictional charecter sounds like?
I dunno.. They made bullies seem bad and that you could stand up to them.. I like that more than running to mommy or a teacher with tear filled eyes
ZIEGLER MONSTER And don't forget: these days if you're a kid and get beat up by a bully, you get in trouble too, since "it takes two to fight" (so glad I was in college instead of high school when the "zero tolerance " bullshit started)
Oh my god! What I would do to my bullies now, and what I would say to some of my stupid teachers now too now I realise they didn't have half the power I thought they had.
ZIEGLER MONSTER - in the REAL WORLD, before the communists in public schools adopted "zero tolerance" policies, the Bully eventually met someone that put him in his place. Now, kids have to deal with it by coming to school with a gun and shooting everyone that would not stand up against their tormentors.
Liberals in the public school system brought this shit into fruition... probably by design so they can take guns away from everyone.
A major problem that's still present now is 'who through the first punch' gets in trouble. Problem is that bullies started verbal abuse and stealing/breaking property. So I almost ended up killing my bullies this one day. I'm glad this problem was addressed because it didn't teach me to be tough, it taught me how to hate and despise all of humanity, and how to unleash it to whomever was unlucky enough in my way. I was turning into a little psychopath and I'm glad I didn't have a firearm because I couldn't overpower my bullies with my muscle strength, so I most certainly would have ended up on the news. And though good people came to save my soul eventually, it still lead to over 20 years of therapy. So I just want to say, "F*ck Off, and go to hell" to whoever thinks that bullying isn't a big deal. I don't like how it's still being addressed today, but I do see that it's much better than before.
TO THE ARSEHOLES WHO MADE THIS VIDEO I SAID _ 'TOP MOVIE TROPES THAT WOULD NOT FLY TODAY'? - YES THEY WOULD. YOU CANT MAKE A CLAIM OF SOMETHING YOU WANT AND CLAIM IT TO BE REAL. YOU DELUDED LIBERAL P.C. TYPES THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FOCRE YOU PEVERTED IDEOLOGY ON EVERYON ELSE - YOU DONT. AND YOU NEED TO LEARN THAT WE WILL NOT TOLLERATE YOUR BULLYING.
I’d rather have my kids watch every movie in this video than listen to top 40 radio today.
YES!!
AMEN!!!!
Robert Scannell: you called out my hyperbole. Never knew of or seen “Goodbye Uncle Tom” and glad I never have due to a quick cursory web search. I gladly acknowledge your reply.
Darren Backman thanks man. Great response. That’s perfect. We need more just like you
Darren Backman yes beware of Ariana Grande
"Hitting a female is just not OK."
Then stop pretending like hitting a male is totally fine.
Was there a rape in Sixteen Candles? Who raped who, if they were both drunk?
@@goranmilic442 oh but he was a male so he was obviously guilty
Well when they hit a male in old films it is a big deal and usually a fight ensues
I agree
Aidan W right, they want to be equal...therefore they get equal treatment and responsibility
That like to dislike bar, strikes a perfect balance
Would make Thanos proud.
As all things should be
Literally Nobody 😂😂😂 "i don't fell so good"
I don't want to hit either one now in fear of disrupting the balance
Half are right, half are wrong....looking at the screen I'd say the right side is correct, and the left side is wrong....just like in real life.......see what I did there?
Jacoby Rassilon
dont you know one of the most important rules of the internet, "dont get all political"
'In Sixteen Candles' BOTH characters were drunk and it was the drunk woman who instigated the situation with the drunk man who was younger than her.
because she was 3 years older?
filmgirlLisa He was a minor, she wasn't. Imagine if it was reversed. He'd be tried, sentenced and castrated on the same day.
She was a senior in HS. I graduated at 17 she could've as well. What are you even talking about? The whole movie was about a girl freshman getting with a senior (who could've been 18). Are you kidding??
I get it but even today standards are wack women can attack men and rape men and nothing happened but a man slaps a woman or is drunk and has sex with a drunk women, which I should mention there have been studied where women are taking pills that get them more intoxicated so when they take a guy home or go home with a guy when they wake they can claim rape YAY women there are enough bad guys out there women don't need to be setting up the decent ones.
Uhm no... she was completely unaware of what happened, although he drank he was conscious enough to show her off and get pictures
Waaaaaaa! I'm offended! Waaaaaaaaa!
I know. Thank God for liberals and SJWs for doing the Lord's work and fighting to eradicate the majority of this ignorant and outmoded BS.
***** You may want to see a professional about those aggression issues.
***** You seem to be confused as to what SJW's actually do. But that's ok, most people are dumb and confused so I am not surprised at all.
***** It's not my job to educate you. That is your own responsibility. Peace.
***** I finished college, so I don't really need a self-taught by internet "expert" trying to tell me what makes up an education and what doesn't. Nice try, though?
funny how they didn't talk about the movie "White Chicks " lol
I’m pretty sure no one would care about that even now lol
Its cause it was racist against white people and white people for the most part found it funny
Wouldn't brown face be indian and like arabic type area?
That shit funny
lol that was like my grandma's favourite movie lol.
We'll never have great movies like Blazing Saddles ever again.
Movie Games That's a classic!!
What does Blazing Saddles have to do with this? I don't think it's being oversensitive to say that people don't want to see blackface anymore.
just let Tarantino make it
Movie Games the difference with Blazing Saddles was that it was satirically exposing racism in Hollywood. The other examples on this list are just flat out racist.
Says a lot about how "enlightened" our society has become, a movie like _Blazing Saddles_ would be impossible, forbidden, and condemned today.
Why is Gigli on this list? It would imply that someone actually watched the movie.
mongothedestroyer88
😂😂😂
🤣
Walken's in there.
gobble gobble
Violence against women is totally okay. When the woman is violent as well. Or if she is a superhero. Or a supervillain.
A time and a place. The "Violence against women" shown in this video though was actually awful however. Getting slapped by a man to "Calm her down" is wrong (especially if she completely ignores it and is somehow still oh-so romantically engaged by the guy). Getting beat in an actual fight is not. Getting choked by a big violent alien villain is certainly not.
+Kate Apples And yet violence against men is OK and is common place, yet any depictions of a woman being struck is oh so terrible. Why should women be placed on a pedestal and treated like children?
WatchMojo has a video about the best male/female fights in movies. In all of the scenes the fights were fair, it wasn't a man beating on a woman for no reason.
"When the woman is violent as well. Or if she is a superhero. Or a supervillain."
It's not treated like it is in films.....
+Disciple of Khorne think about who tends to be the person beating up on a man for no reason. Hint: it's rarely a woman.
I don't think playing a slave in a movie set during the Civil War is a stereotype it's history.
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@@johnroscoe2406 shutup bot no one cares if it is
@@wwehulk8798 Did mommy forget to give you your meds?
@@johnroscoe2406 no but yours did apparently
@@wwehulk8798 what is your problem kid? All I said was "underrated comment." You need to grow up.
Why NOT teach kids to stand up to bullies, instead of waiting for an authority figure to intervene?
That's what I wondered
There's all kinds of reasons. The bullies will just come back; the bullies friends will join in; the bullies will get the benefit of the doubt; etc. I was told that a coworker of mine stood up to one and his boss twisted it as pride, he got ganged up on, was never asked of his side of the story, and had to jump through hoops while the bully was excused.
I'm sorry, but you're giving WAY too much unjustified power to the bullies. Standing up for yourself is the ONLY way to defeat them.
By relying on a higher authority to resolve their problems, this predisposes and ingrains in children subservience to higher authorities, preparing them to be serfs to the government.
Well shit, why even have police? BTW, they aren't saying NOT to stand up to bullies, they are saying that bullies in past movies were given power BY authority. Sounds like you bunch of morons WERE bullies.
I've never seen a youtube video with such a 50/50 like dislike balance.
Ikr I like it even
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Visit any channel about entertainment and quick facts that for some reason is associated to "pc culture", as Buzzfeed. You will find at least one video with as many dislikes as likes and it's comments section flooded with conservatives ecoing in unisson how much they hate feminism, libtards, anti-gun and pro-choice people and what not, for no good reason at all.
You are definitely changing the world by going to your supposed enemies' channels and barking ill researched beliefs in mass and making anyone wonder which side of the "pc culture war" DOESN'T have completely deluded retards.
Apparently agreeing with anything your enemies feminists and leftists have to say is a crime now... as if the "casual rape trope" should definitely be allowed to fly by as no big deal on movies these days.
It's balanced at 22k right now....woah, never
Because many of us hate this woman's voice narrating it.
Regarding 7. Historical movies about WW2, should always refer to germans as a germans (not nazis), otherwise it is the deception of history.
Piotr St exactly. This shit is ridiculous. Bunch of overly sensitive fucks.
This is true, the Nazi party was a movement in the German government, not every German was a “Nazi”. 100% agreed
Either way is actually correct, Nazi or German. The Nazi party wasn't a "movement" when Hitler took power, it wasn't a "movement" when Hitler started WW2...It WAS the German government. Didn't you notice all the swastikas? A political "movement" didn't declare war, the nation did. The German government did. We fought Germany's army which is made up of.....Germans.
I wonder if Germans said "Those damn Republicans (or Democrats)" when referring to Americans? Maybe they had real "grammar Nazis"?
This all ridiculous anyway, if you have to go kill people who gives a flying fuck what you call them? War ain't pretty. Never will be.
(Funny how Hitler practiced a religion based on Judaism as he was trying to wipe out the Jews, he was Catholic wasn't he?) Oh wait...Catholicism isn't based on the bible, never mind.
No. Because to be an officer in the German military at the time, or to be considered for future promotion from private. You had to be a member of the Nazi party. So, more than 90% of all German soldiers were Nazis.
Plus. The German military’s oath included the pledge to protect and serve *the Nazi party leadership*. Not the person who is president at the time, like our military. So, they were in direct service to the Nazi party, not their country, making them Nazis.
IcantSignIn in Germany at the start of WW2. The Nazi party was the only politically party you could be a part of, as every other political party was outlawed. So, you were either a Nazi, or you weren’t part of the government. That’s a far cry from the reality in the US, so your analogy makes zero sense.
If our military pledged an Oath directly to the Republican or Democrat parties; as the Germans did to the Nazis. Then yes, you could call them Republican/Democrats instead of Americans.
Just as Russians were referred to as Commies / The Reds, because you were either a Communist, or you weren’t a part of their government/military.
I don’t really see what’s wrong with “collecting cultural artifacts”. Not in the context of Indiana jones at least. I mean, nobody’s gonna miss it in a boobytrapped temple
Effectively you are saying "I don't see what's wrong with stealing from another country."
@Adam Murdoch That is PC, literally the only thing they mentioned that's valid is the pg13 rating everything else is just whatever, regardless of it being offensive should be allowed in movies. It's not real you see people get shot all the time in movies but it's bad for someone to hit a girl? It's not okay to do but they're still not even comparable.
You can’t call them “booby”traps. That’s offensive. 🙄
you're just a brain washed right nazi, it is not ok to put things in a muesem where they can live without being ruined, leave them in a booby trapped temple so they can, its not right that they woldnt be decrated there, they need to be left where they are in danger
FUCKING RIGHT TARD
@@Marz2727 except it literally was in a temple booby trapped made by sometimes even aliens nobody misses the indiana jones artifacts as they tend to kill people
And after you get rid of all these funny things you end up with the new ghostbusters
Why are they women how terrible
Uhm, no. Aside from a smoking Ray those things were not present in the Ghostbusters movies. And look at those horrible trailers for the new one, they're full of stereotypes. There are legit reasons to be very cautious of that movie but yours isn't one of them and, in fact, you are exactly why legit criticism gets shot down.
Funny how they never mentioned Ray getting "raped" by a ghost.
SAVAGE
There was a casual rape joke in that movie when Peter calls the station to tell them about Dana/Zool. He says that he's drugged her up and then says something along the lines of "don't worry, I'm behaving myself."
"You mean I'm going to stay this color?" That was the absolute _funniest_ line ever in any movie! I laughed so hard the first time I saw it there was a moment where I was scared I wouldn't breathe again.
It was a funny line in a hilarious movie. Too bad we've become a bunch of whiny, PC,...wait for it...waaaaiiiitttt...JERKS.
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I don't see the big deal with blackface, if a black guy did whiteface I wouldn't be offended at all.
Yeah! Like the movie White Chicks!
Porch Fyre Exactly, White Chicks was hilarious.
I don't overly see the issue for it now adays, unless it's being used in a specifically racist way. The reason it was such an issue back then, however, is people of color really didn't get leading roles. They more or less weren't allowed, so it would have been quite the kick in the balls to see a white person dawning some make-up and playing a role any actual person of color could have.
***** Of course I understand It had a negative stigma back in the day, when was the last time you saw blackface in a modern movie that was done overtly? It just doesn't happen any more, it's all for comedic purposes with no malice.
herranton1979 Does it though? I mean I've only ever seen the film it came from once, so I could very well be remembering this wrong, but I don't recall many stereo types in it. All I remember is a white actor, dressed to look black, acting as a white actor would. Then again I may just have to go look at it again.
I got bullied a lot growing up. I found that the most effective way to stop bullying was to wail on the bully, or at least explode/go nuclear on them. Way more effective than going to the principal or "waiting for an authority figure" to solve the problem.
“Violence may not be the answer, but life is multiple-choice”
- Casual Geographic
Yet the critics of these tropes seem to be projecting prejudices and stereotypes of their own. The female critic says it's not right for men to hit women yet says nothing about women hitting men. Doesn't this smack of reverse sexism?
this movie was a bad excuse for a PC rant
Haha, hell, in one clip a woman made a full lunge at the man, but it was the man that was being horrible when he lightly tapped her butt with his foot in response. Amazing.
But those portrayals were sexist. It's not saying you can't show any violence towards women.
It was about tropes that won't fly today, not tropes that will fly today and that is a trope that is okay as far as film makers are concerned...
Just like the black/brown/yellow face, but no mention of white face, like in the movie white chicks.
RDJ in Tropic Thunder was one of the best performances of his career!
"I don't believe you people!" -white guy
"What do you mean, 'you people?'" -white guy pretending to be black
"What do YOU mean 'you people!'" -actual black guy
all time classic moment
i know who i am. i'm the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
he really hit his stride when he was robert downey jr playing an australian actor playing a black vietnam soldier disguised as an asian villager
Yea he was good I wasnt offended at all
Jacob Grant good old days.
"Things that would never be used today"
*Provides half a dozen examples of these things being used today*
It was stated that its not that they aren't used today, just changed the approach.
The title of the video is literally "Top 10 Movie Tropes that Would Not Fly Today"
Not used in movies today.
“not fly today” meaning the vast majority of people wouldn’t go see it, and would encourage others not to see it either.
It’s not like they were outlawed.
Just like most people understand tricking someone into sex is a crime, so using it as a joke is in bad taste.
It depends on how you define "trope." Subject matter and trope aren't necessarily the same thing.
This is more like reasons movies suck now
All Disney turns out these days is preachy, virtue-signaling, alphabet abomination, pederast canonizing drivel.
Yea I hate movies where a gay dude doesn't rape another guy while a dude in black face beats a women in the background. Movies today are tame.
@@somerandomguy6749 haha based on all your other comments at the other comments and refusing to ever say something back, its pretty evident you're either just another dumbass troll. Or the dumb racist yourself and cant justify your bs!
Jeriba Shigan actually it seems you are the snowflake given he actually made a point, and you resulted to a childish insult.
Your right, the decline in decent movies has come about because now the only acceptable movie is a one written by a LGBTQZ (insert further Alphabet letters here) about a Black, Gender Fluid person who discovers that being a vegan and fuking dolphins is the meaning of life!!!!
"most bullies got their come upins in the end, it usually wasn't by an authority figure" .... YES! that was the point! to teach a lesson of STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. to have a backbone to stand up to bullies yourself.
Yeah that is why young men of today are either creampuffs or on the dark side.
True
Soy boys
What is come upins? do you eat it with bone apple tea?
Roman - Yep. It’s the reason I keep a book copy of Return of the King next to my DVDs. So when the Hobbits return home I pause to read “The scouring of the Shire”. My favourite part of the story. To show that all their adventures taught them to stand up against ruffians.
"collecting cultural artifacts?" Seriously?
I turned the video off after that.
We have a right to collect those artifacts. Science trumps cultural "values". Not all cultures are equal. They just aren't. Western values are the only correct ones and always will be. You can't fault the West for being superior. Only we have the right values and morals.
AirCooledMan2006 I agreed with the first two sentences of yours, then you got a tad bit nationalistic. I prefer Western Culture and believe that it has contributed more to the world than any other regarding the bigger picture, but I would not use the term "superior" by any means, because no culture is really "superior", which is a term one cannot really even define. And there is no such thing as a single correct set of morals and values, by any means.
If you go further east, past the middle east that is, there are some asian countries that are very honor and respect based cultures. I can make some arguments for that over the 'everyone for himself and HEAR MY OPINION' culture we have in the west.
MisterCharlton
Western culture IS superior. PEOPLE are equal. CULTURES are not.
That said, what the fuck do the SJWs want to do? Stop archaeology? It's this "let's respect other cultures" mindset that holds back scientific progress! Modernity and science trump cultural traditions, tribal or otherwise!
"Bullies may be the villains of some classic kids movies, but why the hell do the parents or teachers never seem to care what's going on?" Seems pretty accurate for 30 years ago.
Seems pretty accurate for todays standards as well.
@@wanderinwolf3804 Dozens of school shootings later and people still pretend that they give a damn and want to do something about it. It's pretty pathetic at this point. Just going around in circles.
Gee, back when people had a sense of humor and didn’t get upset about everything.
I resent that statement
Im gunna go out on a limb and guess you are a straight white man.
@@akosszakacs yea I did. That's why I said those words.
Upset about things such as what?
@@somerandomguy6749 why are u so TRIGGERED in every comment
Robert Downey was so good in Tropic thunder I really thought he was black🤣
Alberta "DAYUM NIGGAH!? Yu just went full-racist in this bitch! Don't go ever go full-racist!"
In reality he was just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
@@joshgellis9463 is it racist when the Wayne brothers do white face? As a mixed race person I don't understand what difference it makes. Nobody chooses the color they're born and nobody means any harm by it.
Metoo
Congrats you are a moron considering you know that the joke was he was a white guy in blackface.
Why is everybody here so mad about being PC? Sure, PC's don't have all the same capabilities of a Mac, but they're still fine computers.
I want to proverbially kiss you on the mouth. Consensually.
LMAO!
you were close to making me like your comment, but PCs can run laps around MACs with even decent upgrades.
+GreatRandomContent This.
MACs are great for work, but PCs win in every other possible way.
You can't depict a period piece about the 40s or 50s with the cultural attitudes that actually existed back then?
"Where are all of the authority figures to deal with the bullying?"
They actually didn't care back then or ever until Columbine. That's the reality. Stop neutering our movies.
This world is way too soft now. It’s freaking ridiculous!
Hayden Isaacs Here toughie toughie!
You are so right. Those movies are so much better because they don’t care.
So you are saying that it is ok to use racial stereotypes non-satirically? Or picture women in a demeaning way?
It is just a story. It is not real life. Plus people being other races was to show appreciation for them because they were slaves not actors.
@@badmadison5734 so you are saying black face was a celebration of African American culture rather than a racist effigy meant to make fun of and dehumanize African Americans?
I LOVE Blazing Saddles! Never loses its Humor! Going to watch it again now!
He said the sherriff is near!!!!
And the people who made this list seem to be ignorant to the fact that Richard Pryor was one of the writers on the film.
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It had moments of humor.
It is still one of my favorite movies! The thing a lot of people don't get is, the biggest idiots in the film are the WHITE GUYS. If anything, the movie makes fun of white people and our stereotypical attitudes. I guess you have to be a little bit perceptive to get the humor fully...
Besides, where do y'all think that salsa company got the idea for their "New York City?!" commercial? Hmmm?
Slightly off subject, but I heard that Richard Pryor was originally going to be in "Blazing Saddles". How come he ended up not being in it?
Most of this was hilarious, this country needs to buck up! Those days were so much better than where we are now!
+Kenn Adams You don't think, worse is happening now?
At least the racism is much less and economy is much more stable.
But there's trump so yeah...
I'm glad slavery is over and tabacco companies no longer lie to us saying how harmless they were while the executives themselves didn't touch a single stick. Yeah, those days :p
Tim Dev
What's insane is how dumb you are. You think slavery was a good thing? Lynching? Each generation has its own problem.
+Tim Dev where are the lies in the replies to OP?
I was fine with tropic thunder that shit was hilarious
I know
barnesk80 right. I'm fine with the jazz singer.
"Jes' cos it's a theme song don't make it not true."
barnesk80 you'd have to be black to understand ;-)
Jim Dines lol yea
People who get mad at people calling nazis Germans can take a hike. Every allied soldier referred to them as Germans at some point
If a woman hits a man, she's a hero. But if a man hits a woman, people call it an act of abusive harassment. Does anybody else see anything wrong here?
Is it a double-standard? Absolutely. It's just on part of the whole problem though.
A. We shouldn't be promoting violence as a positive thing except in extreme circumstances.
B. It's indicative that we have different behavioural expectations of men and women. It's not really about one gender or another - it's about how we create arbitrary rules based on genitalia/outward appearance that should either apply to everyone or no one.
*sigh*
I believe the term you are looking for is "politically correctness" or "feminism." AKA bull crap. It's bad either way.
No one has called a woman a hero for hitting a man. Your claim is idiotic.
But in case you're questioning whether it's abusive to hit a woman, yes it is. Do you know what abuse is?
It makes her an abuser. It makes her an unstable person unable to control herself, just like it does a man. It's the same offence. But there is a double standard because we are not equal.
+Mikihara that's bullshit. Anytime a women hits a man, the man is asked if he provoked her, and is victim blamed. The women also gets a pat on the back, the man gets belittled, and laughed at.
Bullying wasn't exactly acceptable, but movies exaggerate things to make them more grandiose for the screen and, people had a mindset where if your having a problem, you need to learn to deal with that problem, not wait for someone to fix it for you. Ralphy wouldn't have been half as admirable if his mom had to come and stop him from being picked on, Heavyweights wouldn't even have been a movie if the kids didn't fight back against ben stiller, And the neverending story wouldn't have that over the top scene where sebastian gets back the bullies with the help of a Dragon. Bullies allow for character development, and that is a good thing.
Okay, character development is one thing. The other thing is the power of cinema. You have these glorious heroes who deal with their bulies, and then people who watch them are ashamed to tell adults or somebody in power that something is wrong because they think they have to "deal with it". And if they are not "strong" enough to "deal with it", then doesn't matter their mental scars and mental disorders that will stem from that in a dozen years or so.
Also, this is a kinda tired trope, maybe it's time for the cinema to look for the new one...
As far as I know, HR departments in some of the more civilised companies take care of that sort of thing. You don't have to cry, but work is a place of WORK, not bullying. That's sort of an adult thing to do, get rid of it... The same as blaming the pereptrator, not the victim. :P
And please read carefully what I wrote above, because you apparently don't understand.
Michael Anderson Im sorry, but you miss the point, or rather you avoid it by avoiding to answer my arguments. First of all, movies are not censored, they are critized, please, learn the difference.
We 're going in circles... But fine, as an answer to your last argument please, read my first comment here, youll get an answer to your lack of argument.
Nobody ever said standing up for yourself is not a good thing, but we shouldnt expect it from children.
It mostly grows not from being put in a compromising position precisely, but from having self confidence to deal with it.
Gaining self confidence has to be rooted in strong family support. Asking for help and being vulnerable are necessary things to learn in life in order to be mentally healthy, especially for men, who usually dont get to learn how to be vulnerable and ask for help.
And adults are the people who should react to bullying, not "teaching" kids by ignoring them.
if you don't see the big deal in that, then I don't even know why you engage in this discussion.
You have the right to be gay, i have the right to be homophobic. It really couldn't get any simpler than that.
Lol there ya go
You still should respect them as human beings just like you would to any other person regardless of your views.
You do Mr. Nixon. No one should be able to take away the right to be homophobic from you and most intelligent people don't want to take away anything from you, instead they will probably try to change your mind. It's just when homophobic people are trying to take away rights from gay people that they step in. Like whomever you like, and hate whomever you hate, just let everyone else have the same rights you have and everything is fine.
Freedom of Speech protects your right to say that. It just won't protect you from getting criticized for it.
It's like how you have the right to be an idiot, and I have the right to say your an idiot. The problem is when I treat you like your not a human or you don't deserve rights, like most homophobes do to gays.
I feel bad for people who never got to watch Married With Children or In Living Color. America is overly sensitive.
Bflo23 wait, people get offended by married with children. It’s no worse than last man standing. Just solid male logic
@@joeschranz4525 Lots of hot chicks and fat jokes in Married With Children. Al Bundy had no filter and would be murdered by feminist groups..... I never seen Last Man Standing.
Bflo23 didn’t know it was offensive to them. Highly recommend last man standing though
Or all in the family
@@krisshaw9464 "Those were the days!".... After the lyric "Girls were girls and men were men.", it would have been cancelled.
i'm german and i don't mind nazis in historical movies being called germans because that's probably how they did it
you are some crazy fucked up sjws..
Hahahaha I done the same thing, I got mad at one point, commented, then had to comment again because the entire video was fucking awful.
+JohnSmith a person with an anime picture who likes to use the term sjw.. never seen that before. almost makes me ashamed that I like anime. I know that not all anime fans are like you though.
Alex Marko Well that was random as fuck.
Go back to your body pillow, Weeaboo.
i just want to say..the trope about authority figures taking a lax attitude towards bullying, could be an example of what tv tropes calls “truth in television “. because during that time, even in the 80’s and 90’s , at least in the schools I went to, the authority figures really did take a lax attitude towards bullying. often looking the other way and letting the bullies get away with it, or punishing the victims when the victims fight back and and then brushing it off , telling the victims to simply “ignore the bullies” or even going so far as to make up excuses for the bullies, claiming the victims have a “persecution complex” and it’s all in their heads.
very true
In the 1970s, a girl at my high school was laughed at by teachers and severely punished by the administration for getting gang raped.
Facts.
@@edgaradams4624 That's horrific.
You have to understand too, that some authority figures can't take action against bullies, not because they don't care, but all the legal ramifications and the possibility of being sued. We have not only become a more offended society, but a more litigious one as well, and many people don't want a lawsuit for simply doing their job.
To true! I was generally told to "tell a teacher..." hahahaha like that was going to work, I actually tried it once, just to see. I told the teacher exactly what the bully did, he fairly well hurt me, the teacher responded by giving the bully a dressing down (verbally), nothing else, no punishment of any sort, the bully then laughed in my face and in clear view of the teacher give me a hip & shoulder on the way passed. The teacher responded to that little gem with, "Joe that's enough"
I think back and laugh these days but I think it pretty much sums up the cosy relationship between bullies and teachers in the 80s.
Do I agree with your list?
HELL NO
Geez, you really are disappointed that you don't have heroes to cheer as these rape and abuse women? You have some twisted values. Why do you enjoy things like that?
Do I agree with this list? HELL YEA
Becoming more sensitive about things is not progressing. Being able to laugh at yourself is. Everyone needs to quit being so uptight.
Being able to laugh at yourself is good but laughing at a person like you being dehumanized is not
Can you explain why racism, sexism, homophobia, body shaming are laughing matters? I don't really get it
@@messiejessie92 Please explain how everything is interpreted in the worst way possible and that people are not even allowed to laugh at themselves. The fact that you don't understand my original post illustrates quite clearly what the fucking problem is. Have a nice day.
@@pizzasteve5825 Learn how to form sentences. You write like you dropped out of school in the 7th grade.
@@Clarence2WorleyOF COURSE people can laugh at themselves. The topic at hand is about the tropes that wouldn't fly today SUCH AS homophobia, racism, sexism, etc. I just don't think you followed your own train of thought to the end. Prejudices are accepted poorly now as they always should have been. If I come across racism, I will 100% take it the worst possible way because a racist will deserve no benefit of the doubt from me in this day and age. In the age of technology, our access to knowledge is so readily available so that kind of deliberate ignorance isn't going to sit well with many people.
10:00 so hitting males are ok?
My thoughts exactly.
+Biohazard EXTREME I get genders are supposed to be equal and there are some good femininists but this is just retarded
some people get feminism and woman supremacy mixed up
+Jake Loftus True
+KOBO True, and there's also the fact that the extremely vast majority of deaths are of Male characters
"I was born...a poor black child" Probably my favorite line ever in a comedy movie. Still flies today, and it's still funny to anyone with a sense of humor.
"Never trust whitey, the lord loves a workin man, see a doctor and get rid of it"
"Shit.....shinola......shit....shinola......shit....shinola"...LOL!
"You mean I'm going to stay this colour?"
Nope. You see a sense of humour requires intelligence and imagination.
Why is it funny?
The Jerk was not offensive. Navin couldn't have been raised by a more loving family. They didn't care about the color of each other's skin. BTW Navin kicked the shit out of a bunch of racists, well except Iron Balls McGinty.
Wow! No mention of Blazing Saddles. Even black people were laughing when they rereleased in honor of the late Gene Wilder.
"Blazing Saddles" was satire. That's the point.
"Where the white women at?" LOL
Clevon Little was great
@@baxtersmom279 So was Dr Strangelove but it made this list.
Sean Riley. It’s like “the jerk” it was just as popular with blacks as it was with whites
To be fair Dr. Strangelove is satire so the US and USSR issues were supposed to be simplified.
"Casual attitude towards slavery" Well, no. If the movie is portraying history in an accurate manner, it does not mean anything about it's "attitude". Except that it's not lying. Historical depiction is not a trope, as far as I'm aware. It's pretty backwards to imply that you should in fact NOT be accurate historically, just so your attitude is acceptable. Seems dangerously ignorant, in fact.
More Gun Free Man that’s what I thought at first but if you watch the video for like two more seconds, she means the slaves appearing happy to be slaves would no longer be seen in movies
More Gun Free Man yes
Yes, not portraying certain societies as casually accepting slavery is whitewashing history. Curiously enough, this video says that a different type of whitewashing would be unacceptable today... the whitewashing that did not depict the cruelty that was commonplace against slaves.
Even saying slavery is bad these leftards will get offended.
It's worse than that...they complained about generalizations in the previous example, then proceed to generalize in the next one regarding slavery, an extremely complex sociological topic.
I'm Mexican and I have absolutely no problem with Speedy Gonzalez and Frito Bandito which were voiced by the legendary voice actor Mel Blanc a white person. Also I might add have no problem with "brown face" for example in the film The Good, the Bad and Ugly Eli Wallach portrayed the Mexican character Tuco and many Italians in spaghetti westerns were supposed to be Mexicans. My dad loves those films and we would watch them when I was young and still do. Another actor was Martin Landau to be portrayed as a Mexican in an episode of The Rifleman as the bandit Miguel Patrone. Jenette Goldstein was of course Private Vasquez in Aliens(1986) with a spanish speaking accent. More recently 2003's Once Upon A Time in Mexico, starred Willem Dafoe as Armando Barillo a Mexican drug lord which was directed by Robert Rodriguez a Mexican dude. Now Sure you might say some of these characters are "bad hombres" but what is the big deal. There are bad people in all races no race is innocent that is human nature but there is also good people in all races. In a more comedic film, Jack Black as Nacho in Nacho Libre is supposed to be half Mexican and half Scandinavian. Don't even get me started on cultural appropriation like Mario's mexican attire and the Tostarena level for that matter, how is that offensive? Another example on 5 de mayo I really don't care if white people or other races wear sombreros and everything else that is done on that day. I don't get whats offensive about that so do not tell me why I should be offended or that my opinion is wrong, this is my OPINION we can still have those right? Mariachis are originally Italian meaning Mexico appropriated that and some African music with the Marimba as well and Banda music has it's roots in German Polka, Cumbia is originally from Colombia not Mexico cultural appropriation happens everywhere and it's not bad. The people that think it's bad are liberals that think they need to speak for us and mexican americans that go to liberal college, support Aztlan, think they are oppressed, blame whites for everything and get "woke". I was born in the U.S. and I am in college but I stand firm in my beliefs. I do support some liberal views and much more conservative views since I am Catholic as most Mexicans are but this PC stuff is just crazy. I do not hate any race but dislike individuals instead, either very liberal or very conservative. Of course I acknowledge actual racism and will not allow that. Point is I want to share my culture and not everything should be taken offence to. Tengan buen dia.
Alfred Fiore honestly I feel the same way 👏👏 Thank you.
cultural appropiation is ridiculous. however some stereotypes out there about mexicans are just not true. The most balant and offensive "Call of Juarez" game, there was a mission to rescue white girls from mexico that were abducted in US to be prostitutes in Mexico. Holy shit! That's just not true, if anything it's the other way around. Prostitution is more valuable in the US and kidnapping is punished more harshly in the US. It doesnt make sense to do the crime in US and get paid pesos in Mexico.
I think the entire concept of "race" itself is pretty silly, and that it shouldn't be a factor in who gets a role as long as that actor can pull it off naturalistically. We can't even agree on how many races there actually are! Depending on whether people of mixed race form their own races, and depending on whether Pacific Islanders are actually Asian, etc., there may be as few as four or as many as 19 races!
We also can't agree on what makes a person "white," or where Europe ends and other continents begin. At one point we went so far as to believe that every ethnicity (nation) was its own race and that they were all genetically distinct. English people and French people were thought to be two different "races" - albeit two very similar ones - and that having either English blood or French blood shaped one's character. We obviously haven't believed that in the past half-century, since in MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL English actors played French stereotypes without anyone (except maybe some sensitive French people) complaining. But the real point is that every person is different both on the outside and (moreso) on the inside; and so whenever you cast anyone in anything, unless you have people play themselves, there is going to be "washing" of some kind. In THE DEER HUNTER Christopher Walken was Nikanor Chevotarevich - Russian-American, Catholic, and a steelworker, while in real life he is none of those three things. And yet everyone agrees that was one of his greatest roles. Also, think of all the Gentile actors who have portrayed Jews: Robert De Niro, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams; given Jewish-American political activism, I would have guessed there'd have been more complaints about that (even if the producers who cast them were often Jewish). Not to speak of Charlton Heston, who not only has portrayed two Jews, but was also cast as Muhammad in a controversial 1977 film (before the studio was warned not to cast ANYONE as Muhammad, since Islam forbids his depiction in any form)! I've learned that political correctness is very arbitrary, often based more on who has political clout and how "assmiliated" a group is at any point in history or in any location than on anything truly accurate.
Alfred Fiore what a shame there are not a lot more people with your sense,maybe then humans could involve into civilization n outlaw war.good luck with your course hombres,Bueno fortuna.
I was told the Mexicans got offended by removing Speedy because that was their character. Inclusion breeds exclusion.
As far as actors playing a different race, Tropic Thunder and White chicks spring to mind. It's acting, it's not uncommon. In the old days women weren't allowed to be actors in plays, so every character was a man. Probably made sex scenes weird though...
The bully one is why kids are soft today. You gotta learn to cope with bullying and stand up for yourself, instead of relying on someone else.
Standing up for yourself is great. But some people can't due to certain anxiety issues. If you can stand up for yourself, great. But if not, there is absolutely no shame in asking for help
@ iwishicouldbefunny You’re right. There is no harm in ASKING for help. And sometimes that is exactly what should happen. The one being bullied should ask for help so they can learn how to do that, not have an adult step in before being asked. I’m not saying that bullying is ok, but it is a scenario in the “growing up” process that kids should learn from and use later in life... “can I handle this myself or do I need help?”....NOT “I should just be scared and hide until somebody else voluntarily steps in on my behalf to solve my problems for me”
Well some people are more sensitive than others and if you knew anything on how a child's brain develops than you should know that not every child can suppress their emotions
@@shanegallagher3524 THANK YOU you are the only goddamn sane person in this entire comments section
pizza steve then those kids will just have to grow up, mature and get thicker skin. But yes I also agree with “iwishicouldbefunny” but still even kids with such anxiety will have to face it and grow from it at some point
10 Movie Tropes that offend social justice warriors at Watch Mojo headquarters.
YES!!!
the only one that I would very strongly agree with is rating horror movies as PG. I'm glad they now have more categories. Then if there are any of these other topics that are too much for small children to handle, you can rate them PG 13. Problem solved.
Hahaha
If I could like this comment more than once I would
LOL raping a drunk girl is awesome. *looks at the SCOTUS* oh right, the senate pretty much agreed. carry on.
The Jerk is funny as hell. That is definitely my favorite Steve Martin film.
Same here
Love Steven in the Jerk.
"The new phone books are here! The new phone books are here!"
Why is he angry at these cans?
Loved his dog...Sh1thead! I also like Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.
Meh, I always saw Tropic Thunder as more of making fun of the person who thought blackface was ok, more than African Americans themselves. He's not trying to play a black man, but rather he's playing an actor playing a black man. At least that's how I saw it. Curious about others' opinions
That's true. I think some people were just upset about seeing a White actor in blackface. That alone can be traumatizing for some who have been mocked due to their skin color (colorism vs. racism), physical features, and use of language (speaking colloquially "Black" or using Ebonics).
Downey, Jr. handled that role well and did it justice. I can't picture another actor fitting that role and Brandon T. Jackson's balance of representing Black masculinity in "Tropic Thunder" helps dramatically.
@@jinakaye yes, you can be offended by blackface, that is your right. Same reason why I never watch white chicks ever again...because no matter how you look at it, that was nightmarish whiteface xD (guess it was an eye for an eye joke somewhere in there, sorry)
@@TheChill001: I get offended by the unnecessary use of it. I think "Black Like Me" was in poor taste, for example, but Spike Lee's use of it in "Bamboozled" was genius. I liked it for "Tropic Thunder", as well. I have no problem with Kabuki Whiteface or how it was used for "White Chicks", but Tyra Banks using it for ANTM was quite offensive.
@@jinakaye thank god for people that are actually fun to dicuss things with on youtube. And yes, unnecessary use in either way is just not done. The cases in which it either actually tries to point out the issue (tropic thunder) or where perhaps a setting demands it can be tolerated depending on the seriousness of the issue at hand and if it is in any way derogative or not.
Im a black male and I thought Tropic Thunder was funny as hell watching Downey act like a "black " man was hilarious.
There are lessons to be learned behind most of these tropes. We have unfortunately taught newer generations to become more fragile emotionally, physically, and psychologically.
If anything men have become more sexist now than back in the early 2000s
9:45 Casual violence against men is, of course, still A-OK.
NO IT IS NOT YOU SEXIST SWINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Bobbit..................eh he deserved it.
GR1M_ RE4PER - it’s called revenge
It's still okay to beat up women as long as they a super heros or villians.
grow the fuck up!
Love how they show THE QUIET MAN for violence against women, one of the plot points in the movie is that he won't treat her like that but she insists that he does
That is so true..lol
They're not talking about the actual movie itself just the trope
Not to mention that he wasn't being violent at all. Pushing / dragging a person to a meeting that they need to get to isn't violence. That's like saying holding down a drug addict in withdrawal is "violence against addicts".
Heh. I wonder if audiences from 75 years ago were to look at the stuff WE watch today, suppose they'd find tropes in it that wouldn't fly in their day?
I'm guessing they wouldn't take well to all the gratuitous violence, gore, excessive cursing, crude humor, explicit sexual content...wait a minute, what exactly changed?
Well said.
Homosexuality, interracial couples, female leaders.
@@plainlake I actually find that kind of funny. There were female leaders in ancient literature from the Bible to Aristophanes. Interracial couples, too (Ruth & Boaz, Jason & Medea, Othello & Desdemona, etc.). As for homosexuality...have you read the dialogues of Plato? But I get it, we're talking about 75 years ago, not 2,000. That's the thing: if you ask me, censorship is a pretty recent thing. 70 years ago they censored homosexuality, profanity and explicit sex. Today we censor the kind of things described in this video plus anything that offends the Muslims. Imagine what future generations will censor of us.
*explicit sexual content*
we still have japan for this.
somehow...that last one doesn't count...movies of the seventies and eighties had a lot more full frontal nudity...these days there's an uproar in the US for a simple nipslip...but than again, that's the US, not europe...
RDJ was brilliant in Tropic Thunder. It wasn’t “more of a satirical “ it was satire. The entire movie.
Based on the clip, does WM even know what "cultural appropriation" is supposed to mean? It's normal for outsiders to wear Indian garb during a ceremony (weren't the Darlings being made honorary tribe members, anyway?).
Behind the Scenes Photos I have to agree with you somewhat. Was it a horrible stereotype? Hell yeah! Cultural appropriation? Not so much!
I know for a fact that none of my family members look like the “injuns”, ok I have a cousin who kinda looks like Tigerlily, but still.
I have never personally seen anyone wear regalia that wasn’t part of that tribe, but I’m only one person and not every tribe. So I guess the answer is... yes and no🤷🏽♀️
I can't believe Watchmojo actually used the term "cultural appropriation". Yeah, this is where I cross the line. If I want to see a freak show, I just browse r/tumblrinaction. Unsubscribed.
No such thing as cultural appropriation. I can't believe they used that as an example.
probably because cultural appropriation is a real thing. Would I go so far as to say that hairstyles are cultural appropriation? no. But it does exist lmao.
ThePickleUpYourNose Well, yeah, in the sense of a white woman thinking she is actually black. Wearing a native american costume, so long as you don't paint your face red, is hardly cultural appropriation. It is real, in essence, but taken way too far...still don't understand what is u[ with the historical artifact honorable mention. That made me angry for no apparent reason.
MisterCharlton Wearing a native american costume is actually pretty disrespectful. The same as wearing a geisha costume, or dressing up as a jewish/muslim/mexican person. Portraying negative stereotypes about races is not funny.
+MisterCharlton if by "native American costume" you mean the war bonnet, yes, that's appropriation. It's not a cute accessory, it's something that has to be earned. It's literally the equivalent of a Purple Heart medal. Military people do not appreciate non-military people wearing medals they did not earn, and Plains tribes do not appreciate non-Natives wearing war bonnets they did not earn.
There are other items, like moccasins, that are intended for general use and are not appropriation.
At 3:10: "Why did the parents or teachers never seem to care about what's going on"? Because that's how it was back then! I remember, from when I was a kid - as late as the 1980s, that when I said I had been bullied, my parents would just say "well, then you gotta stand up for yourself and fight back" and do absolutely nothing to help me. Back then bullying was considered a natural part of childhood - some are bullied, some are bullys, and that's just how it is. The same can be said about many others of the examples in this video: That's just how things were when the movies were made.
Since when do liberals let reality intrude upon their Ethically and Morally bankrupt lives?
Yeah, you sometimes have to fight for yourself. Asking for everyone else to fight for you all the time, get you in a lot of trouble when you reach adulthood. Also, trying to shame the bully in front of everybody by show of hand like was shown in the video with Tina Fey, isn't much better. Why do you think bullies exists? (not directed at you, just a question in general) They aren't born bullies.
I've been bullied and I've bullied other people. In the end I don't think much of it. It is exactly what you say, part of childhood and learning about wtf is going on in life. Often the anti-bully people piss me off way more, as they are adults attacking young children for "being a bully". That's also bullying, but on a worse level.
Whoopsie DayZ are you kidding? So pointing out to somebody that theyre being violent towards somebody is bullying?
Agreed. It seems like now every time there's a bully, an authority figure steps in to stop it. Exactly what does that teach anyone, aside from teaching the bully to be a bully where the authority figures can't see? Obviously there's times where an authority figure should absolutely step in, for example when serious physical harm is likely, otherwise kids need to learn to stand on their own two feet with minimal sheltering and coddling.
"Casual violence against women". What a freakin' joke. All you see today in sitcoms is women being violent towards men and people laughing.
So?
@@MrXxsoulessniperxx - So? I guess you're saying violence committed by a woman against a man is acceptable or else it would not be considered funny and be on sitcoms?
@@2009champs1 If the guy let's himself get smacked around, sure it's hilarious because he's letting it happen. Most men would defend themselves, woman or man. If you're offended by a guy on tv show getting hit, then you're just a snowflake😂
CaptnBaggin you literal dumbass. You know women can abuse men as well? Right? Or are you just a fucking libtard?
@@amaury12v89 Lol stop watching fox news, you might loose what little cognitive thought you have left
Mammy from Gone With The Wind wasn't a stereotype. She was an archetype of the time the movie was set.
And if you look at the character, she was the sensible level-headed one. Amongst a bunch of hysterical, snobby white people. Who if only they listened to her advice, would've avoided a lot of strife.
Yeah, but these progressive goofballs are too hysterical to know the subtle distinctions between a stereotype and an archetype.
And so true about Mammy, it is a point that modern liberals don't want to hear, she was actually the smartest person in the room.
Glad there is one person here who isn't retarded, too bad WM is.
I totally agree. African-Americans of the Civil War period were not afforded much of an education. Mammy was typical of the period in which the movie was set, not a stereotype. She had great insight and common sense.
The point is that stereotype of servant black person is tired
right. it was the civil freakin war...that is the way it was...stupid interpretation.
1) You can't include "violent PG movies" on this list cause you explained there was no PG-13 rating when those movies were released.
2) How on Earth is Shortround from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom considered a "non-ironic racial caricature"?
3) How is "collecting cultural artifacts" like in Raiders of the Lost Ark offensive?
Were you looking for things to be offended by?
Shortround is an example of the stereotypical “foreign sidekick” which often pervaded Hollywood movies.
Keith O'Neil The stealing artifacts trope would not fly today, but not because it is offensive but because it upsets the preservation of unreplaceable history.
This is a controversy that has been going on at least since the early 19th century, when English archaeologists unearthed the Elgin marbles in Greece and brought them back to England. Historically, countries did not have "intellectual property rights." If your country lost a war and was looted and the enemy made off with your national treasures, that was that - unless YOU beat THEM in a war later on and took those things back, along with the enemy's own treasures. As for archaeology: It was a science that was developed in Europe - and in northern Europe primarily - and that took an interest in artifacts to be found in ALL parts of the world. Many countries did not have archaeological departments at their universities - or universities at all, for that matter - or even public museums to house their treasures. They were probably content with receiving international publicity as a result of their excavations being displayed.
Also, how is it cultural appropriation when the people are inviting you to partake in the festivities.
Dino Hall "It belongs in a museum!"
At about the 11:02 mark you have Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs) as "Antagonist is a stereotype". Buffalo Bill was inspired by a real person named Ed Gein. He was a "body snatcher" and murderer that actually used human skin to make lamp shades and upholstered his chairs and other things. Police found human breasts and even a vagina he had cut off and presumably wore. While I get your point, there is actual basis in fact for this particular character.
I guess Watch Mojo didn’t know where to put Mel brooks movies, because he makes fun of everyone and everything. The man is a genius.
Joseph A Tribuzio he made fun of racists.
Like I hear.
First off, soul man is a great movie. And the character was not wearing blackface in order to replace a black actor with a white actor. The whole point was that it was a spoiled rich white dude that tried to appropriate programs that are used to level the playing field for black people. But he learned the error of is ways in the movie.
And as for Robert Downey jr., as the presenter said, direction making fun of the use of blackface brownface yellowface in movies.
Song of the South was a post Civil war movie. The proof is that Uncle Remus decides to leave the plantation at the end of the movie because he didn't want to live there after the boy was killed.
Yes, it does take place AFTER slavery, during the time when the freed slaves (the ones who did not move far away from their former owners) were forging a new relationship with the people who had previously owned them. Contrary to modern lore, not every slave owner was harsh and abusive, and once freed, many former slaves remained in the same areas and often worked for their former owners. ( www.quora.com/How-many-slaves-stayed-with-their-masters-after-emancipation-and-why ) "Song of the South" depicts one such situation.
BTW, at the end of the movie, Remus believes that he has inadvertently caused too much trouble with his constant story telling, and decides to leave town and move to Atlanta. Little Johnny, who loves Remus and his stories, runs across a field to catch Remus' coach before he leaves, but he is run down and gored by a bull. The child is badly hurt (nearly comatose) and the whole community - white AND black - gathers at the house to pray and sing. Johnny's grandma, a wise old woman, fetches Remus, who comes to the boy's bedside. He begins to tell him a story, and the boy comes to...
Uncle Remus is the wisest person in the film, and the only one who consistently puts the children's needs before his own.
Anyone who does not recognize the depth of heart and soul in this wonderful film is a Br'er-Bear-class idiot - and has likely never actually SEEN (or saw and somehow did not absorb) the film in question.
@@ADeCosa59 "Contrary to modern lore, not every slave owner was harsh and abusive, and once freed, many former slaves remained in the same areas and often worked for their former owners."
Do you find it funny how American slavery is always considered violent and oppressive, but if you can get them to admit there was slavery outside of America. They make excuses for how it wasn't as bad as American slavery.
@@MorphicStates It goes on today
@@MorphicStates I was just thinking about that as well. It's like the world has forgotten that slavery has existed since Ancient times and people of every ethnicity have been subjected to it at one point.
@@ADeCosa59 Slavery was HORRIBLE and there is no excuse for it, BUT it is also Western Civilization that finally outlawed slavery. It has existed as an evil for thousands of years. Some think that it was actually an improvement, as prior to slavery, when one tribe conquered another, they simply killed everyone. But once slavery became a thing, they didn't kill them, they enslaved them... as far as Southern slavery, it was horrible but because people are people, some masters/mistresses were kinder than others, some were worse. So yes, in some cases slaves might feel loyalty or affection and vice versa. That doesn't mean it was OK, though. But you are also right, Song of the South was set AFTER slavery... and Remus is the wisest character, so it's sorta anti-racist, actually.
okay i'm black and I give Robert Downey Junior a pass, that shit was hilarious.
“What do you mean ‘you people’?” Haha
@@Liusila 😂
Exactly! A story should be told in the way it was envisioned, not with a woke checklist on standby waiting to sanitize it.
FOR REAL‼️
exactly dude im pretty fat and i thought heavy weights was funny
03:10 "Why the hell do the parents or teachers never seem to care what's going on?"
The answer is: because they don't. That's why. My friend was bullied and no one gave a shit except him and me. The teachers even bullied me for caring about him.
Ace Ventura when Ace realized "Einhorn is a man." One of the funniest scenes ever in my opinion. Probably wouldn't fly today.
hexdude24 laces out!!!!
Obviously you never watched The Crying Game. Same situation a little exaggerated....but the man in The Crying Game when he found out the woman she was in love with was a man the scene ended exactly like Ace Ventura at the bottom of the shower,, crying
a straight guy isn't allowed to be grossed out by kissing a man?
So political correctness is not only telling us how to say something, but how to feel. Yeah, great comedy if Jim Carrey breaks the fourth wall and says, "Okay she was a man, I kissed him and I thought she was a woman. That's okay, though. I shouldn't discriminate someone for being what they really are. Men who dress up like women are still a vital component of our society. "
"a straight guy isn't allowed to be grossed out by kissing a man?"
Nope. In today's society you will be labeled as a hater unless you get aroused kissing a man and go all the way.
#1 is blazing saddles Mel Brooks. Nothing is off limits in that movie. If you get a room full of different folks together to see it, by the end everyone is laughing because none of it is serious. It's ment to shock and it does! God bless you and keep the vlogs Coming.
I wouldnt say everyone. You couldnt put any leftist socialist sjw crybaby safe space occupy everything millennials in the room.
Parodying racism and everything in blazing saddles is the entire POINT of the movie
Coincidentally (IIRC), Mel Brooks is on-record as saying that they were going to go farther with the "black guys have big d1cks" joke with the weinerschnitzel - and that they had to cut that gag back some. That movie is a classic.
I think he said the sheriff is near!
It was written mainly by Richard Pryor
and thats why classic movies are soooo much better than half this modern trash....
There's a difference, of course. Those classic movies were not even trying to disturb people (unless they were horror films, of course); they actually thought they were being wholesome. Now filmmakers are called "old-school" if they offend just for the sake of offending - and, of course, they have to throw sexual stuff in there, too, just to prove they're doing so.
SeasideDetective2 exactly. Mossy of the movies they showcased here addressed the issue at hands by putting into the limelight, not just mindless drivel like most today's movies.
Amen
I can't believe how soft and thin skin we have gotten. Welcome to politically correct hell.
Politically correct AKA having any moral values whatsoever
pizza steve lol. How soft
@@Cooldude-ko7ps it ain't called being soft it's called being sensitive which is a good thing. Imagine you are the POTUS and you are negotiating with the president of China and you greet him by saying "hello my little yellow friend", the negotiations would be pretty much downhill from there.
pizza steve yes you have a point there but yes it is understandable that people will get offended by racism against their race. But I’m just saying that most people are soft and have thin skin because people keep on getting offended by the most minuscule and ridiculously things.
victimorthecrime total agree it’s just what the world has come to.
Trigger warning? AHAHAHAHA. This channel sinks to a new low.
Explain to me what is wrong with trigger warnings. I'm still yet to find a good answer.
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Because it's pandering to the sensitivities of adult people with a range of "no-no" so wide, you might as well be talking to little children. It's pathetic.
+Aivottaja It doesn't necessarily have to be though. When you're talking about stuff like rape it is necessary to give a warning because there could be a possible rape victim listening to you. Do you think that rape victims are too sensitive?
what about people with ptsd?
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There is no way to know what kind of things are sensitive to whomever, except graphic violence and things children are not allowed to see. That's why we have viewer discretions. This video doesn't contain anything worthy of that.
Besides, you don't give "trigger warnings" for difficult subjects such as sexual violence. Trigger warning is a fucking safeword for the SJW mentality. They're basically warnings for people that they might feel the need to discuss something or express their opinion, perhaps passionately.
My Dad took me to see Robocop when I was 6.
Well I'd like to shake his hand for being awesome, but I can't. So you do it for me hey.
cool dad... yep I watched it when I was 8...
best thing I ever did
Your dad is fucking awesome
ever since i was 7 my family christmas movie marathon was always christmas story, christmas vacation, and die hard...always in that order
Thank your dad for being awesome.
also,
I'd buy _that_ for a dollar.
"Do you agree with our list?"
The ratio speaks for itself
On the internet finding 50% of the snowflakes being triggered by a youtube video isn't that rare.
I no longer have children of school age. But relatives who do have assured me that bullying hasn't changed much. Schools still look the other way and tell the target to "just ignore it, honey."
People who are so eager to be so easily offended have no place in the big bad world. GROW UP!
let me guess. white male?
Look Donkey, I just found a couple right here
Idk only people I see getting offended is people like you. You cry about fucking everything that might have the slightest possibility it could be considered "SJW." I swear I could say "man, nazis suck" and hear half of you bitches whine about how I'm such a fucking feminist lol
+Talking Donkey. are you refering to the video or the comment section?
FUCKIN' A!!!!!!
I just keep thinking how in ten years time we're going to look back and say, "Remember when Top 10 videos were considered non-offensive?" Here's to growth.
This video offended me
Honestly in order to tell a story some movies need to use real life aspects such as rape bullying etc. Ppl getting triggered because of a movie that used rape (as an example) as the main characters motive is unbelievable no wonder most movies are so cliche these days its because writers would rather stay in the safezone than be blacklisted
"A Christmas Story" is not a casual attitude towards bullying. Also, "The Jerk" is DRIPPING with irony.
Also, in "A Christmas Story", the bully gets what's coming to him when Ralphie beats the suitcase out of the bully who antagonises him.
Old school movies: Bullies are a thing and you should stand up for yourself because mommy isn't going to be there your whole life to help you
this was the better way to do it
WestArcher Not really. Nobody stood up to bullies in old movies. It was just a casual thing that you get over it
George in BTTF, Ralph in ACS, Lisa in Weird Science, Gordie in Stand By Me...You don't know film one Oppa
WestArcher Growing up we were expected to handle bullies on our own. I was told to kick him in his nuts and fold him like a lawn chair.
Cole Bloxam exactly, the list is too long to write.
Eerie, great in theory but the real world doesn't work out like that. There will always be that kid that just won't listen, or that one parent who thinks their kid can do no wrong.
We can't do anything without someone taking offense anymore
I think society has REGRESSED not “progressed.” This perpetual, “I’m offended at everything” is 1.) annoying and 2.) destroyed comedy. We all did it in fun!
We CELEBRATED our differences by laughing at each other and everyone got along. Today, everyone is a bunch of selfish, entitled, spineless, pansies.
I have got to agree with the new rating system though. I watched some movies as a young kid that should have been rated PG 13. So many nightmares could have been avoided by a proper rating system.
Light Bulb agreed! Lol
@@lightbulb8869 : Having PG-13 is good. Red Dawn started all that in 1984. But we shouldn't be so easily offended by everything. We have no real comedy anymore.
Don’t forget left wing.
RunFor OurLives that’s like saying there are many different types of feminists. It sounds good on paper but the reality of the situation is that it’s progressed and devolved into what it is now. Either left or right. There’s no middle ground these last few years. So if you lean to the left you will unfortunately be placed in the same room with the rest of the left.
"Do you agree with out list?"
No not really.
Who cares, it's a movie. All these things can happen in the same movie and it wouldn't matter. It's all about telling a story, if your story has to do with a race being outcasted it doesn't mean you believe it, it means the people in the story you created believe it.
Yes, thank you, I entirely agree!
Your comment is perfect!
Thank you good sir I was thinking the same way but couldn't actually figure out how to put it.
But it's not just a movie it sways people's mindset for the worst. Like stereotypes in movies make people think that's how a certain group of people are and they act on it; for example many movies show black men as dangerous when people watch the movies they think they are dangerous so they walk across the street when they see a black man.
Yes after watching 10 WW2 movies i have determined that all Germans are Nazis.
Made especially for the Professionally Offended.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yeah. That’s the point. It wouldn’t be for the people who don’t give a shit.
You had to go pretty far back for clips of men hitting their female love interest. It was far more common though in Hollywood movies to show women slapping a love interest and you don't have to go nearly as far back to see it. It happens multiple times in the 2011 movie 'New Year's Eve.' It also occurs in 'Groundhog Day' and 'When Harry Met Sally' and many other movies.