BM directed at me definitely sets me on edge. Intellectually, there's no threat there and it is pretty funny when someone gets worked up over nothing. But I get that unpleasant adrenaline shot anyway.
You weave your humanity into a lighthearted love for the game. We all feel incomfortable in the face of that very ugly BM. But your way of handling it inspires us all to handle it better.
It does inspire me to handle it better - Although I wish we didn't have to handle it at all...Truly isn't needed and it saddens me we can just enjoy a game.
@@DavidSmith-wr5sj Yea like come on, there wasn't even any attack yet and the guy was going 100% griefing. it's just the person being a paranoid retard. *The funny thing is he didn't know what else to say when he got actually pwned!* LOL Just think about it, he already peaked in the first minute so actually it's a little bit of a bummer we didn't get any better expression of dissapointment in the end when he got really pwnnned by Uthermal. That guy was just sad. *I see people are being muted (shows an x in channel) just keep reporting BM, and don't feed it.*
First game and video I ever seen from you, I see the first BM and your reaction. Instant subscribe and thumbs up. Edit: And I 100% suffer from ladder anxiety, I love watching people play thou. Keep up the good work!
I know the common wisdom is to brush off BM on the internet since its just anonymous pixels, but I think its totally normal to have a negative reaction to the stupid, vile shit that people spew in online games. There's a human being on the other side of every monitor and words do have an effect on us whether we like it or not. Props for not responding and instead giving him a good old-fashioned ghost spanking.
Ironically, you have no sympathy for the negative experience of people losing 😂 being salty after losing is fairly universal, some just hide it better than others
How the heck did that first guy get to GM. Gets upset at a basic ebay block, loses every probe to 3 Ghosts revealing that he had absolutely no read on his opponent's build. That's like gold level at best.
For me, BM always feels unexpected, despite having received it a lot. Here I am, enjoying spending my free time playing a video game I love with other people, when a person I'm playing with starts spewing hate. It temporarily jolts me out of the good mood I was in and makes me feel like uthermal said -- as if I had just been attacked. It's sad that some people could get that angry while playing a video game. And that they continue to play the game because they find that getting that angry is still better than how the other things they were doing was making them feel.
Im definitely not going to lie, I rage in online games some times, but when that happens I also know its time for a break. But I never say shit like kill your self. It's mostly introspection/self realization being lashed out.
there are a lot weirdos in this game BMers are not that bad compared to smurfs: people lowering their mmr on purpose to have easy victories against players much below their real mmr They need therapy.
Its funny though, cause i'll shit talk my friends and vice versa etc and its all in good fun. So I assume they're just treating you as a good friend when they BM
Really felt your comments about the BM in this video. When I was still playing chess, I had some intense anxiety about playing - my heart would race and I could only play so many games before I got too exhausted to continue. A very intense experience where I would feel pressure because I felt like I had something riding on the result. I've since temporarily given up chess because I didn't have the energy to improve at it, and the draining effect was impacting other areas of my life. Still, I do think it felt like being under attack and I can see where your comparison comes from. Love the content and I hope this message finds you in a happy and healthy place!
That engineering bay block tilted that GM protross so bad that it won you the game. I love how that one small move can have such a huge influence on the enemy.
He's definitely exploring mechanical, compositional, and strategical possibilities here! Perhaps this is why he managed to beat pro players in the latest tournament even though he stopped practicing?
@@filosofiadetalhista Sometimes people focus so much on the meta that they forget how to deal with unorthodox strategies. If your thoughts are so heavily focused on X beats Y, and D beats E, but if they do E against my X I should swap to A then someone going off and going "lol here's QW" will make them not really know how to handle it. It goes for any game with a very well defined meta, though you definitely still need the skill to back up being unorthodox.
So happy you blasted that angry protoss player in the first vid. How bad his attitude can be if he says that from the start?? Or was it a way to distract you from focusing on your build? Either way, you showed him!
Bro, don't worry about bad manners from someone you don't even know. That is no way to go through life. They are most likely unhappy and want to project that to the world. Just bear them and chuckle. Success is the best revenge! I love your videos and I haven't played SC for years. :D Keep being you!
wouldn't cyclone, mine be a good combo, since the mines can give vision and the cyclones can also take advantage of units hesitating to walk into mines? also sniping observers out of the sky would be very satisfying ;)
It's my favorite unit comp in 4v4. It's great versus zerg, solid against toss, and good in the early game against terrain. Tanks make the cyclones/mines obsolete. For zerg, fungal and the viper's yoink hard counters mine/cyclone. Against toss, it's hard to fight colussus and disruptors but with good micro, it is doable. Against carriers, it's impossible to fight straight up, but you could lock on to one carrier at a time with 4-6 cyclones run away, then do it again and again. You have to use a scan for every carrier you attack for the vision. On a related note, carriers + cyclones are one of the best unit combos. The opposing units' AI targets the carriers instead of the cyclones. Meanwhile, cyclones are glass cannons that you could try to hide below the carriers while the cyclones fire away with their insane dps.
Wonderful series! I have not really general question: at 25:14 you sent one ghost to scout and they use F2 to add ghost to the group 1, but scouting ghost has not been added. How you managed to do this?
Your nerves are made of steel. Giggled a little when you said you "feel like you're attacked"... dude you ARE attacked. and then you've won. lol. Well done. Well done
25k Subs :0000 gg wp I think that instead of dropping nukes, you should drop ghosts to do damage, that way you get at least 1 probe per trip haha :). May be even a lot of probes and delay mining until they get cannons or stalkers around their base
Uthermal, that Ebay block on toss is a great strat to always employ as many of them are not used to it, case in point the last couple of wins versus them (and the bm er)
I think with regards to bm it just makes it a little personal … you are no longer 2 faceless generals commanding troops they attacked you personally - and so the desire for retribution becomes personal - rather than a simple desire to beat a skilled opponent
game 2 was wild never expected that. For phase 2 against protoss maybe its like terran where its two tanks per base? plus early cyclones? whatever keeps the stalkers off your back in early game and makes it go into late game. Protoss when it goes into late game is actually interesting seeing how ghosts can chew through some armies with enough upgrades and emps and snipe and some clutch cloaked flanking. Shit the late game ghost ball even chewed through the 3rd base nexus in no time.
Game 2 was pretty strange, opp make good unit to counter protoss but expand too slow + no upgrade but still dodge every nuke even with base attack distraction (Did they play while listening to the stream?)
New challenge: Macro to GM Can only defend until you have 7 fully saturated bases (7X22=154 pop in SCV) . Can never have an army of more than 46 pop. Basically win by out Eco-ing them and throwing units at them at a relentless speed.
Imagine the look on a grandmaster's face when they get clobbered by... ghosts. And only ghosts. It's probably something most players have literally never encountered before in their lives, and all of a sudden they're getting wrecked by it.
hello again! the way you normally now do 5 marines and a reaper, i feel like you should also have a tank or two as part of your defence... like standard units
nukes take 14 seconds to be launched, and have a small fall-time. obs take 21 seconds to construct. feel like might be useful info at some point, if you're trying to destroy a spawning obs without wasting a scan or emp
I think you should be allowed to randomize your challenges, so that IF you get a repeat opponent, you could switch to a different challenge to throw off your advisory.
What about going banshee ghost? they both cloak so it kinda makes sense, and the banshee can kill some of the harder to kill units for the ghosts especially to pick off tanks
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BM directed at me definitely sets me on edge. Intellectually, there's no threat there and it is pretty funny when someone gets worked up over nothing. But I get that unpleasant adrenaline shot anyway.
Beta :)
@@idothings6685 sigma bs believer
You weave your humanity into a lighthearted love for the game. We all feel incomfortable in the face of that very ugly BM. But your way of handling it inspires us all to handle it better.
It does inspire me to handle it better - Although I wish we didn't have to handle it at all...Truly isn't needed and it saddens me we can just enjoy a game.
Yeah man. I am so triggered by BM. It is so stupid. I love the way you keep it cool. I wanna be like you!
You handle so many BM situations with grace and kindness. You're awesome, keep it up.
Yeah, checked him out after Lmaoing maxpax
Didn't he BM maxpax?
@@jeffreywarf Well no one's perfect all the time. From what I've seen he's doing overall a great job being kind even when being told to "kys"
@@DavidSmith-wr5sj Yea like come on, there wasn't even any attack yet and the guy was going 100% griefing. it's just the person being a paranoid retard. *The funny thing is he didn't know what else to say when he got actually pwned!* LOL Just think about it, he already peaked in the first minute so actually it's a little bit of a bummer we didn't get any better expression of dissapointment in the end when he got really pwnnned by Uthermal. That guy was just sad. *I see people are being muted (shows an x in channel) just keep reporting BM, and don't feed it.*
the correct response to the kys is "lololol because you can't?"
First game and video I ever seen from you, I see the first BM and your reaction. Instant subscribe and thumbs up.
Edit: And I 100% suffer from ladder anxiety, I love watching people play thou.
Keep up the good work!
The explanations and commentary make your content fun to watch.
Yo just wanted to say I don't even play StarCraft but I really enjoy watching the challenges.
Love your attitude!
Man that first game was amazing, it’s the most gratifying thing watching you tear apart these nasty people. Kudos to you!
Congrats on the 25k subs Marc!!! Looking forward to the event you promised!
I know the common wisdom is to brush off BM on the internet since its just anonymous pixels, but I think its totally normal to have a negative reaction to the stupid, vile shit that people spew in online games. There's a human being on the other side of every monitor and words do have an effect on us whether we like it or not. Props for not responding and instead giving him a good old-fashioned ghost spanking.
For me, it depends on how creative they are. The first match one id just laugh off.
Ironically, you have no sympathy for the negative experience of people losing 😂 being salty after losing is fairly universal, some just hide it better than others
XD
marc: splitting my ghosts into 2 groups might not be a good idea
uthermy: 2 groups of ghosts boxes in colossi + stalker army & wins the game
How the heck did that first guy get to GM. Gets upset at a basic ebay block, loses every probe to 3 Ghosts revealing that he had absolutely no read on his opponent's build. That's like gold level at best.
hahaha that 1st guy was malding badly. You have such a great attitude! Keep it up!!!
For me, BM always feels unexpected, despite having received it a lot. Here I am, enjoying spending my free time playing a video game I love with other people, when a person I'm playing with starts spewing hate. It temporarily jolts me out of the good mood I was in and makes me feel like uthermal said -- as if I had just been attacked.
It's sad that some people could get that angry while playing a video game. And that they continue to play the game because they find that getting that angry is still better than how the other things they were doing was making them feel.
Im definitely not going to lie, I rage in online games some times, but when that happens I also know its time for a break. But I never say shit like kill your self. It's mostly introspection/self realization being lashed out.
there are a lot weirdos in this game
BMers are not that bad compared to smurfs: people lowering their mmr on purpose to have easy victories against players much below their real mmr
They need therapy.
Its funny though, cause i'll shit talk my friends and vice versa etc and its all in good fun. So I assume they're just treating you as a good friend when they BM
That show match with Clem sounds incredible. Loving the content!
Really felt your comments about the BM in this video. When I was still playing chess, I had some intense anxiety about playing - my heart would race and I could only play so many games before I got too exhausted to continue. A very intense experience where I would feel pressure because I felt like I had something riding on the result.
I've since temporarily given up chess because I didn't have the energy to improve at it, and the draining effect was impacting other areas of my life. Still, I do think it felt like being under attack and I can see where your comparison comes from. Love the content and I hope this message finds you in a happy and healthy place!
Congrats on 25K subs!!!!! Lest go for 30K!!
How refreshing...Marc, you are a class act sir. Thank you.
Uncommon strategy, good execution, and this time against GM level opponents. Thanks for the show ! =D
25k Subs! Congrats!!!
love your content man! i dont even play starcraft but i really enjoy watching you!
That engineering bay block tilted that GM protross so bad that it won you the game. I love how that one small move can have such a huge influence on the enemy.
compared to all kinds of $h!t that Protoss player casually throw at Terran players, e-bay block is nothing.
they should learn good manners
Excellently handled putting that screaming baby Protoss to bed in the first match.
Another great video, keep it up :D. Grats on 25k!
You gave me soo much fun with this series. Thank you man!
You made it :D Congratz on 25k!
That ghost flank was awesome, goes to show thta concaves and flanks are must have for amazing engagements no matter the unit comp!
5:30 can´t stop replaying this xD
hahahah I died @ 5:28 :D That is one of the best feelings I get from gaming lol
congrats on reaching 25k subs man!!!
Does anyone else feel like these challenges may reveal the best units in each match up and maybe shift the meta game?
He's definitely exploring mechanical, compositional, and strategical possibilities here! Perhaps this is why he managed to beat pro players in the latest tournament even though he stopped practicing?
@@filosofiadetalhista Sometimes people focus so much on the meta that they forget how to deal with unorthodox strategies. If your thoughts are so heavily focused on X beats Y, and D beats E, but if they do E against my X I should swap to A then someone going off and going "lol here's QW" will make them not really know how to handle it. It goes for any game with a very well defined meta, though you definitely still need the skill to back up being unorthodox.
that ghost flank @27:20 chef's kiss
Congrats on the 25k sub! Can’t wait for the special
matchup
Love your games and the way you challenge yourself with these fun builds. You are wonderful and bring good vibes. Peace and love.
Congratulations on 25k subs!
Swarm by Ghost, never expected to heard that. Only in uTermal, Man i LOVE IT.
"because no-one goes 4-gate DT"
Tell me you aren't metal-league, without saying it directly :D
So happy you blasted that angry protoss player in the first vid. How bad his attitude can be if he says that from the start?? Or was it a way to distract you from focusing on your build? Either way, you showed him!
Bro, don't worry about bad manners from someone you don't even know. That is no way to go through life. They are most likely unhappy and want to project that to the world. Just bear them and chuckle. Success is the best revenge! I love your videos and I haven't played SC for years. :D Keep being you!
wouldn't cyclone, mine be a good combo, since the mines can give vision and the cyclones can also take advantage of units hesitating to walk into mines? also sniping observers out of the sky would be very satisfying ;)
Yes the mines support the cyclones by killing their counters (small and high mass units: marines, ling bane, chadlots)
It's my favorite unit comp in 4v4. It's great versus zerg, solid against toss, and good in the early game against terrain.
Tanks make the cyclones/mines obsolete. For zerg, fungal and the viper's yoink hard counters mine/cyclone. Against toss, it's hard to fight colussus and disruptors but with good micro, it is doable.
Against carriers, it's impossible to fight straight up, but you could lock on to one carrier at a time with 4-6 cyclones run away, then do it again and again. You have to use a scan for every carrier you attack for the vision.
On a related note, carriers + cyclones are one of the best unit combos. The opposing units' AI targets the carriers instead of the cyclones. Meanwhile, cyclones are glass cannons that you could try to hide below the carriers while the cyclones fire away with their insane dps.
Wonderful series! I have not really general question: at 25:14 you sent one ghost to scout and they use F2 to add ghost to the group 1, but scouting ghost has not been added. How you managed to do this?
I pressed shift and clicked on the ghost to take it out of the group
As someone who has a lot of experience in lifting all the CCs together, I can feel your pain. And yeah... nothing else is that painful:)
My man took the ghost pasta too seriously
Salt mine is alway entertaining
Your nerves are made of steel. Giggled a little when you said you "feel like you're attacked"... dude you ARE attacked. and then you've won. lol. Well done. Well done
You should definitely send that 1st game to Pig it belongs in the Salt Mines
25:28 an observer(?) flies into the scan and dies.
uT you continue to impress day after day! I absolutely love your content.. @Harstem.. I believe the uThermal is Imba. Or do I suck?
25k Subs :0000 gg wp
I think that instead of dropping nukes, you should drop ghosts to do damage, that way you get at least 1 probe per trip haha :). May be even a lot of probes and delay mining until they get cannons or stalkers around their base
That second one was crazy, I'd love to see someone cast it
Sick games as always, thanks Marc! dont forget to comment guys, it helps the algorithm!
I feel better that even Pros lift all the orbitals occasionally 😅
That 54 protoss is going to be haunted by the memory of that final fight.
My favorite SC2 content. Thanks!
Uthermal, that Ebay block on toss is a great strat to always employ as many of them are not used to it, case in point the last couple of wins versus them (and the bm er)
Yeah, I find it quite jarring too when people starts insulting during games!
16:24 - damn I would've freaked out
I have never seen an eBay block making the opponent tilt
“He as been swarm by ghost” 😂👌
I’m not sure if anything is more satisfying than bad manners denied!
You can set the Surveillance Mode for your observer. It provides 25% wider vision range, but you cannot move with it.
Congratz on reaching and surpasing the goal man..next is 30k subs
i don't play sc2, can somebody explain at ~ 31:10 what does he mean by RNG? is the worker/engineer positioning randomly decided?
I think with regards to bm it just makes it a little personal … you are no longer 2 faceless generals commanding troops they attacked you personally - and so the desire for retribution becomes personal - rather than a simple desire to beat a skilled opponent
You are the Rob Ross of starcraft 2 casters. Well done Sir!
You're so awesome.
I'm not a StarCraft player, never played before. Only had phone.
But i like your attitude to the rude players
that first player got annihilated, nothing better in the world than a protoss getting put in their place
why do you never snipe stalkers?
Three ghosts walking into your base in 4 min is pretty hard to see coming.
What a way to handle a BM, just own them early with humiliation. Love your videos every day!
Your "phase 2" should be Raven.
You could save up so much scan and secured so much snipe.
That first Protoss was a servant of Amon 😂
So glad you crushed that first Protoss
good job as always.
is there any method to stop recalls?
love your channel by the way.
I had an anxiety attack when you didn't clock the ghosts defending the chargelots in your main in the first game.
hi uthermal,
how about widow mines battlecruisers to GM like in the old days?
So efficient u hand out nukes like Halloween County
How hard would it be to wall off the blink up areas?
He tries to summon a Demon at 1:11 with the scv
That Protoss went to the IdrA school of playing Starcraft.
the e-bay block is too powerful
what if you are allowed to also make BCs only?
game 2 was wild never expected that. For phase 2 against protoss maybe its like terran where its two tanks per base? plus early cyclones? whatever keeps the stalkers off your back in early game and makes it go into late game. Protoss when it goes into late game is actually interesting seeing how ghosts can chew through some armies with enough upgrades and emps and snipe and some clutch cloaked flanking. Shit the late game ghost ball even chewed through the 3rd base nexus in no time.
Game 2 was pretty strange, opp make good unit to counter protoss but expand too slow + no upgrade but still dodge every nuke even with base attack distraction (Did they play while listening to the stream?)
That first game was so satisfying :D
New challenge: Macro to GM
Can only defend until you have 7 fully saturated bases (7X22=154 pop in SCV) . Can never have an army of more than 46 pop. Basically win by out Eco-ing them and throwing units at them at a relentless speed.
Imagine the salt if you said oops after killing all the probes in the first game
Next time when someone BM's just answer "Thank you for the youtube content. I'll get great engagement from this."
"what if we did ghost mech, without the mech?"
Imagine the look on a grandmaster's face when they get clobbered by... ghosts. And only ghosts. It's probably something most players have literally never encountered before in their lives, and all of a sudden they're getting wrecked by it.
Somewhere between @26:25 and @27:15 is sorrow and greatness! Always appreciated! #uwu #terranforever
hello again! the way you normally now do 5 marines and a reaper, i feel like you should also have a tank or two as part of your defence... like standard units
nukes take 14 seconds to be launched, and have a small fall-time. obs take 21 seconds to construct. feel like might be useful info at some point, if you're trying to destroy a spawning obs without wasting a scan or emp
Nice tip :)
I think you should be allowed to randomize your challenges, so that IF you get a repeat opponent, you could switch to a different challenge to throw off your advisory.
2nd guy - He didn't GG when he lost, you GG'd him when you lost - that's a moral victory, so that was 3 wins ;-)
Holy shit awesome second game gg
That was an angry toss
I want to do this. Looks like I found my next build.
Thought pro players didn't commit the dreaded mistake to lift all CCs, I feel better with myself now :)
The most painful mistake :(
why do you always error on engineering bay before putting down barracks
I want to meet these ppl in person that say kys on the ladder like, it's too much for a video game they need to be called out.
Yeah it's sort of fascinating. I don't know anyone that would make these types of comments.
What about going banshee ghost? they both cloak so it kinda makes sense, and the banshee can kill some of the harder to kill units for the ghosts especially to pick off tanks