The Delphi Murders | A Catfishing Killer

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  • @pandoxvideos
    @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    CORRECTION: Due to an editing mistake, the pictures at 0:10 were switched. Abigail Williams is on the right, and Liberty German is on the left.

    • @lauram7803
      @lauram7803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please pin this

    • @sundaypiper5762
      @sundaypiper5762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That first guy looks like the one in her video

    • @Dilemmaps3
      @Dilemmaps3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Mikey Zero
      Hey ,atleast he admitted to the mistake which is more than I can say for 80% of tubers.

    • @soalegria1971
      @soalegria1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dilemmaps3 Yes, that’s true Dilemmaps.

    • @KeithWickliffe79
      @KeithWickliffe79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that's very respectful of you to correct that mistake, it's the little things that count👍🏼

  • @Treydog230
    @Treydog230 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    They f*cking got him!! Thank you for helping draw attention and awareness to this horrible situation Pandox. Hopefully, our town can rest a little easier now.

    • @anonymous2010ism
      @anonymous2010ism ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They charged RA with murder he is BG , but he did not act alone

    • @glizzzerd
      @glizzzerd ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Innocent until proven guilty.

    • @anthonylesley982
      @anthonylesley982 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glizzzerd shut up

    • @jasujokelainen5073
      @jasujokelainen5073 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got Who?

    • @jaealxndr
      @jaealxndr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jasujokelainen5073they made an arrest but the evidence isn’t the best

  • @Wisdomcucco
    @Wisdomcucco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    I hate the Delphi killer so much. I don't know why, but the photo really creeps me out and made a big impression on me. Even being reminded of it makes me uncomfortable to a degree that other cases do not. I hope the girls will one day have some kind of justice, I'm so sorry for the families

    • @cramegg
      @cramegg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You shouldn't "Hate" anyone, it's toxic. Maybe you don't like him and disagree with him but the cycle of hate is what perpetuates it.

    • @BobBob-eb4io
      @BobBob-eb4io 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@cramegg he fucking killed people he has every right to hate that guy

    • @tamara6212
      @tamara6212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@BobBob-eb4io Right. He brutally murdered 2 girls. Unfortunately, others have the same opinion. Including me.

    • @alroy3134
      @alroy3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@cramegg @cramegg Good for you that you're above hating ANYONE. I agree hate is a very strong word and most of the time is a toxic cycle however, the person who did this, in my opinion does not deserve to be treated or regarded as a normal human being.The person who did this is a monster, The Boogeyman personified and deserves the most harsh, cruel punishment possible. Please truly think about the subject before you try to tell someone how to feel about something.

    • @klausschwab5236
      @klausschwab5236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alroy3134 No no no the boogeyman is Tony Ferguson.

  • @kimberlyhood4095
    @kimberlyhood4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    The most terrifying part of this is they clearly have plenty of suspects and they've kept coming up with more over the past five years. It shows that women and girls aren't safe in the tiniest of town's. I hope that someday they find this monster for Libby and Abby and nail his hide to the courthouse walls!

    • @nicnaciswack8681
      @nicnaciswack8681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Was talking about this with my husband today actually it is terrifying how many viable suspects exist...smh we are parents of 2 teenage daughters

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There is no place on Earth that women and girls are safe. Small towns are often the worst, since police are predators themselves.

    • @skinovtheperineum1208
      @skinovtheperineum1208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@amityislandchum - There are plenty of places on Earth where women and girls are safe, but you've got to have $$$$$$$$$.

    • @austinkurmay8646
      @austinkurmay8646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean men are murdered at a higher rate but yea worlds just dangerous for womens

    • @austinkurmay8646
      @austinkurmay8646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amityislandchum again men are murdered at higher rates in the USA and in the world

  • @turtle4614
    @turtle4614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I just wish they'd find this guy. Can't help but feel the police really did a 180° with the investigation and no one has any concrete clues to go on as everything changes like the sketch, the voice recording and the lack of anything else.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This is certainly one of the leading critiques, so you’re not alone in your frustration

    • @wheeltorque3383
      @wheeltorque3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I totally agree, and i'm happy you said 180° instead of 360°

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They don't have anything to go on. The killer obviously isn't a local. He'll never be caught until he reoffends and his DNA is collected and entered into the national database. There's really no point in waiting for anything to come out of a police investigation.

    • @Laura-gd4ku
      @Laura-gd4ku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah I think they made a mistake in releasing so less information!
      But now I actually believe they don’t have that much and they just were bluffing with all the comments about how much they actually have

    • @mlfilion
      @mlfilion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They arrested some catfish child predator, who looks just like the man on the bridge for child pornography. He used a fake picture, a catfish account, on Instagram and Snapchat. That's where the new sketch of the younger good looking guy comes into play. A friend of the girls said they were talking to a guy on Snapchat and gave them a description. That's why they changed the sketch. 2 sketches, 1 guy. It's the guy on the bridge. I think they have the guy, just not enough evidence.

  • @Lucky-38
    @Lucky-38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    It's kind of unsettling, that there are so many potential predators "right around the corner" of where the bodies where found. Even more so, because it's a kind of rural area.

    • @septembersapphire347
      @septembersapphire347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah the whole thing is eerily creepy and chilling.

    • @tatyanapeck7192
      @tatyanapeck7192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s what bothers me. If it wasn’t the catfish then there was another creep in those woods.

    • @totljag1
      @totljag1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like a town full of creeps

    • @johnhewitt564
      @johnhewitt564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's clearly a ring.

  • @elijahrans464
    @elijahrans464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I live in the town this happened and I remember how scared everyone was following it. My parents would never let me alone for awhile

    • @dime7512
      @dime7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You put the wrong names the the girls’ pictures at the beginning

    • @elijahrans464
      @elijahrans464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What? That didn’t even make snese

    • @themonk3662
      @themonk3662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@elijahrans464 I wouldn’t even worry about it man probably just someone who got confused, but that’s crazy how long did area stay like that did it ever go back to normal? I couldn’t imagine it happening here.

    • @cagurl9113
      @cagurl9113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a local do U think it's someone prominent that the Sherrifs is protecting? So curious as to why they have not caught him in almost 5 years!??

    • @Brandon-xn1nc
      @Brandon-xn1nc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Delphi is still shook there’s still signs everywhere with his sketch on it

  • @liamcassidy1834
    @liamcassidy1834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Holy moly, 5 years that’s crazy it feels like just yesterday when this happened, I feel so bad for the families and as more time goes on the harder this case becomes I hope the investigators catch the horrible person that committed this atrocity. But good job on the video just as good as the I-70 killer video

  • @TheWolfyattitude
    @TheWolfyattitude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I just discovered your channel today starting with your I-70 killer video, this is the second video of yours I’ve watched and I’m hooked. Your content is very well made and you cover these cases in a manner that is clear, concise, and respectful, yet still entertaining. Happily subscribed and I’m excited to binge the rest of your videos c:

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Thanks for the kind words! Check out the Humboldt Five video for something similar!

    • @Pamoon-gz9vq
      @Pamoon-gz9vq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @newmonarch6374
      @newmonarch6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      FORREAL the I-70 popped into my recommended and i was a fan immediately. W channel

    • @Pamoon-gz9vq
      @Pamoon-gz9vq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@newmonarch6374 the algorithm has chosen

    • @sparrowhawk6748
      @sparrowhawk6748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pamoon-gz9vq also the same

  • @roseblake1099
    @roseblake1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I live 30 minutes from Delphi and I still look for people that resemble that man in public. I just can’t believe with all of the evidence they have still yet to solve it.

    • @cuckertarlson5310
      @cuckertarlson5310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think the killer is local. Probably not even from Indiana. He didn't have to have knowledge of the area.
      The killer could have followed Kelsi's car from a gas station a day or two before. He could have followed them to the trails. I think he followed them on foot from a distance and that's what spooked them.
      I think it's two people a killer and driver. The trails are surrounded by roads, the killer could have walked in any direction and eventually hit a road. It would explain why no one saw a wet guy.

    • @roseblake1099
      @roseblake1099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cuckertarlson5310 I know. I just hold on to the fact the police said he was probably a local or from the area and I was just going by that since they have all the evidence. But it’s getting harder to believe that he’s local if they’ve yet to catch him.

    • @brigidmccarthy5800
      @brigidmccarthy5800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my gosh God bless those girls you know they're in heaven I lived near the area also in Monticello I wish they'd find next killer

    • @zbailey
      @zbailey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I live about an hour away but I drive by the bridge and creek every week. Gives me chills every time I drive by.

    • @zbailey
      @zbailey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cuckertarlson5310 yeah State Road 25 is a 4 lane highway that is literally right next to the trails and creek. I agree that they were followed instead of catfished.

  • @esoteric_mememaster
    @esoteric_mememaster ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Update: the killer's name is likely "Richard Allen", but a man named "Kegan Kline" has also been tied to it. It's probable that a ring of suspects will emerge through Allen's trial.

    • @TheDarkOne805
      @TheDarkOne805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it “likely” his name?
      It IS his name

    • @esoteric_mememaster
      @esoteric_mememaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @OscarRico13 1. Hasn't been convicted

    • @faku2l154
      @faku2l154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Their is no ring of suspects

    • @loralieisa
      @loralieisa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDarkOne805 He is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. I don't have much faith in law enforcement for good reason, but hope they have this right.

    • @loralieisa
      @loralieisa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faku2l154 A tentacle related to this crime was referenced by Doug Carter.

  • @KnuckleheadsMMA
    @KnuckleheadsMMA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Top notch video here. You are always coming with the best mystery videos. I am heartbroken for the families of these two girls, and I hope there is justice for them in the near future. Thank you for doing this because when a case isn’t being spoken about, it’s being forgotten about.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @jamesknapp64
    @jamesknapp64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great visuals with the map and dots following how people moved and various locations.

  • @donaldlusk2035
    @donaldlusk2035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    So frustrating this hasn't been solved. This case has plagued my state for almost 5 years. Abby and Libby would be 19 and 18 today respectively. Just tragic...

  • @grigoris.7732
    @grigoris.7732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I moderate one of the subreddits about this, and these murders absolutely eat at me. Great video

  • @viciousdope66
    @viciousdope66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Excellent job covering this case! You went into more details than I’ve heard, which is impressive considering how I’ve been obsessed with this case since it first came under the public eye. One thing you missed: A family member who attended the searches leaked info about the crime scene in a text message. Liberty’s body was clothed from the waist down; Abby was fully clothed; tree limbs were arranged in a “ritualistic” fashion, and iirc branches may have covered the bodies to some degree. This would explain the statements about “signatures” left at the scene. Thanks very much! You have earned my subscription.

    • @kennethcurtis1856
      @kennethcurtis1856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Allegedly leaked ...

    • @slackjaw2643
      @slackjaw2643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you find this info?

    • @amandanegrete1306
      @amandanegrete1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethcurtis1856 it was confirmed last year.

    • @amandanegrete1306
      @amandanegrete1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@slackjaw2643 about DE being in the search party that found the girls?
      Or about Abby’s mother discussing DE’s text last year.
      Anna Williams said she believed he divulged that information bc he thought he was helping.
      There were many violent, spiteful and hateful rumors being circulated at that time.
      Anna stated DE reacted after hearing so many false claims of pregnancy etc.

  • @sonder006
    @sonder006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The algorithm has blessed me with another good small content creator. This video and the I-70 killer video are the only ones I've watched so far and are very good. Can't wait to see more, seems like you have a passion for mystery and storytelling.

  • @UdonnoodleAJDerpy
    @UdonnoodleAJDerpy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    i’ve been following this case for so long. i really hope these girls get the justice they deserve.

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I’m glad I found your channel before your subscriber count goes into the stratosphere. Amazing production quality and your coverage is very thorough. I’m glad you are drawing attention to this case. Hopefully someday justice gets served.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for watching, and thank you for the encouraging words!

    • @NaveDelAmor
      @NaveDelAmor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What got me is the Keegan sharing his login info with 3rd party. He knows who did it. He went to Las Vegas, to collect cash?
      He almost plead, but reversed in Aug 2020/? I believe, can't remember where I heard info. Someone may have offered money for good lawyering up?

  • @flashkraft
    @flashkraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How many creepy predators can there be living in the Delphi area who look like those sketches.
    More than you would think as it happens.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It bugs me.. this case bugs me in a specific way.. there seems to be a way to solve this case for these families, but it hasn't come together.. honestly how is this criminal still out there? There needs to be more focus and investigation to find justice for these victims. There has to be a way to figure this out, it's going to get solved, I just know it. I don't even follow this case much because of the frustration I get from wishing the forensics/data/evidence/clues would reveal more answers but I get that police need to keep things close related to the investigation.. it's just frustrating.. because I wish more was coming from all of it and the connected investigation..

  • @septembersapphire347
    @septembersapphire347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It is believed that the killer was there among the search party which is very creepy and disturbing.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is a common occurrence. Killers often revisit the scene of the crime.

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty much a guarantee that he was not. He's not a local. If he were, he'd have been recognized by now. He raped/killed the girls and got the hell out of town. He won't be caught until he reoffends.

    • @karenamyx2205
      @karenamyx2205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amityislandchum
      How is it a GUARANTEE just because no one has recognized a crappy drawing made from grainy video and witnesses (eye witnesses are famously unreliable)? Oh wait, I'm sorry, two crappy drawings, because they changed it halfway through to a picture that looks totally different. Further obfuscating the reliability of this lead.
      Also, its pretty clear the cops are holding their cards close to the chest, because they don't wanna release to much to the public. Probably because it releases it to the killer too. So, maybe someone has pointed out locals that look similar, possibly this "suspect" they keep ominously mentioning. but the cops just don't have the evidence to go forward. A drawing isnt a smoking gun.
      Anyways, I'm not saying your comment is without warrant. Its probably even likely. But it's too big of an assumption to GUARENTEE and just clear potential local suspects.
      If you were a detective, that'd be a poor conclusion.

    • @packisbetter90
      @packisbetter90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not that uncommon. Its like the guys who go to candlelight vigils even though they're the ones who killed or kidnapped them

  • @DevilSurvivor69
    @DevilSurvivor69 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The suspect name is Richard Allen, according to media reports. The trial is supposed to start in March 2023.

  • @stevenoconnor3037
    @stevenoconnor3037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They need to find this creep. That snap video is chilling, almost like she knew.

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Before we're born there is a plan, our Soul knows what it is so on some level we do know what's going to happen.

  • @360vlogger3
    @360vlogger3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Who in the heck calls off a search for two missing children because they are worried about their own safety? I would have searched non-stop if I believed there was any chance that I could find them.

    • @deliajones9541
      @deliajones9541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where were all those people searching for all those hours? Obviously not a half mile around the bridge or they would have seen them. They didn't look within a half mile, all those searchers, it don't add up, sorry, it just don't add up they didn't search there that nite when I t was so close by.

  • @malincedz
    @malincedz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    What if the person behind the Leigh Kerr account was more directly involved with the murders than we may think…

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sure the police totally didn't consider that themselves. Just you. You're such a genius.

    • @jamiethibodeau1
      @jamiethibodeau1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Leigh Kerr= leaker

  • @elizabethh5022
    @elizabethh5022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    jeez the production quality on this is incredible! great job!

  • @jonismith9723
    @jonismith9723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think it was a cop that killed them ,I get that vibe it was a cop ,the case has been covered up by other cops to protect one of their own it makes sense to me . that dude had something in his pants either a bat or some other weapon it can be seen as he's walking towards them

  • @breed4052
    @breed4052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Your last couple videos have been really good - I feel like you are really hitting your stride. I appreciate the didactic tone and avoidance of sensationalism

  • @celestenova777
    @celestenova777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Another fantastic video - certainly the most in depth coverage of this tragic story I've heard. Wouldn't be surprised if this man has murdered before, he seems incredibly calculated, assured and methodical. Lots of clues but no conviction - hope it comes to a conclusion asap. Thanks for your work!

    • @alroy3134
      @alroy3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a feeling they're close! Obviously, I don't have any way of really knowing that nor do I pretend to be some kind of insider but ever since I got into true crime, this has been the case that I have wanted to see solved more than any other and idk, I just have a feeling Abby and Libby will have their justice soon.

    • @celestenova777
      @celestenova777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alroy3134 I think you are right...they probably know who it is but just need that last bit of evidence to truly nail him. Hope it's soon, such a tragic case.

    • @jaraleekeith9499
      @jaraleekeith9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very similar to evansdale murders

    • @celestenova777
      @celestenova777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaraleekeith9499 Yes - Mercs Doc did a video of these two girls and mentions this Delphi case as well but Police think they are not connected, seems these evil men are still running free. Can only hope they find them soon!

    • @aprilgates4937
      @aprilgates4937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alroy3134 I think they’ve always had their prime suspect. They have half a palm print and an old cigarette butt ( that could have been there two days prior when suspect was there or search party). LE thinks they’ll get a confession based on who he is. That’s why they keep everything close to their chest. I get it, I didn’t before but I do now.

  • @mrsinister8943
    @mrsinister8943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It's crazy how they have audio of this killer talking to the girls and telling them they can't cross the bridge and he's arresting them and they won't release it. You would think they would want people to hear as much of this man's voice and how he talked in case someone recognized him. The neighbor standing at the crime scene is very interesting cause it shows how easily they could of been spotted and that there really wasn't much cover from leaves and branches on the trees. I was obsessed with this case for awhile but there's only so far you can go with this case and not knowing all the facts and what all law enforcement knows. Just a crazy case

    • @septembersapphire347
      @septembersapphire347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn't Kelsey German say that she thought the voice sounded like she's heard it somewhere before but she just can't place who or where?

    • @uggggggghhhhh
      @uggggggghhhhh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it can do more harm than good to release the full audio

    • @mrsinister8943
      @mrsinister8943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@uggggggghhhhh I definitely wouldn't want to release the full audio but just the parts where the killer is speaking. I would guess he doesn't say much but if leaks are true then he would of had to tell the girls they can't be on the bridge and that he's an authority figure. I do have faith in law enforcement though and believe they have their reasons of doing things.

    • @uggggggghhhhh
      @uggggggghhhhh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mrsinister8943 The audio they released was good enough, imo. Obviously I dont know how much audio they have but they don't release everything right away because it gives the criminals time or a heads up if the cops make it clear they are onto them. I'm also not too happy with people throwing accusations out there as if they are factual when there has been no arrest. I'm pretty sure they have been aware of the catfish thing for a long time now (probably years) and only just now made it public.

    • @aprilgates4937
      @aprilgates4937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@septembersapphire347 Yes, she did.

  • @ibrahimdelomavicsmithson164
    @ibrahimdelomavicsmithson164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, I watched the whole video and scrolled down to see the comments. I automatically just assumed this was a million+ sub channel and this video must have millions of views. Keep this up man, the production value and tastefulness is great.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for the support!

  • @xWasabiNekoProx
    @xWasabiNekoProx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The suspect with the tattoos gave me chills, they really do look just like them. What a creep

  • @SirRed5000
    @SirRed5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Incredible video just like your video on the I-70 Killer. Keep up the great work and I look forward to your next video!

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the encouraging words!

  • @naw9549
    @naw9549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Man those first snapchat photos are chilling- knowing what comes next...

  • @regularmoe3817
    @regularmoe3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing work. Videos like this really keeps the spotlight on this case. Let today be the day.

  • @brendaleigh7834
    @brendaleigh7834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent synopsis of the case! Thank you. I have been following the case for two years and have always felt the girls were lured there thinking that they were meeting a guy their age!

  • @ProxylandGiraffe
    @ProxylandGiraffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow glad to be here the day after subscribing to see another masterpiece. Keep it up man this is grade A content

  • @sunflowerz54
    @sunflowerz54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    So does the fact that locals knew this was a “teenage hangout “ make a local man the killer The police accused the killer of “ hiding in plain site” DNA will break this case Karma is coming. My prayers to their families

    • @cagurl9113
      @cagurl9113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think they have DNA or it would have been solved by now by CCMoore who was asked to handle the case two years ago! If you are local that sheriff there gives me the creeps, he's been around too long and knows everybody's business could he be protecting someone of standing in that community?? This case has been overprotected and should have been solved by now!

    • @DaniHMcV
      @DaniHMcV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DNA evidence would have resulted in an arrest already. The guy who did this was really careful to not leave personal evidence that could be tracked back to him. Maybe a cop or ex-cop?

    • @cagurl9113
      @cagurl9113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Somekindofwonderful yes CC Moore wants to solve this case!!

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Somekindofwonderful Seriously, I am astonished how many idiots don't understand how DNA evidence works. They really think that when DNA is collected at the scene, a magic bubble appears in the sky telling police where the culprit is. Even the comment right after yours doesn't get it, despite you explaining it.

    • @skinovtheperineum1208
      @skinovtheperineum1208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cagurl9113 they have dna

  • @terrydavis5223
    @terrydavis5223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent content and presentation. No extremely loud, long rock introduction music or long typed information left up for 2 second before putting up the next one. Yours is very professionally done. I've liked, subscribed and saved. Keep up the good work!

  • @zackchatel
    @zackchatel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Another very well made video Pandox. Still surprised you don't have at least 100k subs these videos are really good. I watch a lot of crime channels and shows and this channel is definitely near the top. May the victims in this video rest in peace and hopefully their killer gets caught.

  • @jessicaturik6593
    @jessicaturik6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve watched tons of videos on the Delphi killing and yours was hands down the best. Best info and details. Have to admit I’m pretty ignorant when it comes to all the tech stuff about Kline. Love to see a deep dive on that. Great job. Prayers for the girls and their families 🙏🏻❤️

  • @reversedhermit
    @reversedhermit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    surprised to see you only have 11k subs, these videos are super high quality and interesting!

  • @ooofthedegenerate
    @ooofthedegenerate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just finished watch ur I:70 killer video and loved it great timing

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching both!

  • @donaldmacfadzen-reid9752
    @donaldmacfadzen-reid9752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man, you really channeled some post-modern Silent Hill vibes there mid-way. Great work Pandox!

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incredibly kind words as always!

  • @AidenRKrone
    @AidenRKrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How is it an "overestimation" of his abilities? He hasn't been caught yet, so clearly he's quite proficient with this particular set of skills. I wouldn't say he's arrogant or overconfident at all. He just knows what he's doing.

    • @jessiestoss2687
      @jessiestoss2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldn't surprise me if this monster has a background in Law Enforcement or the Military. Something about the way he speaks, and how he was clever enough to get away with it. He knew there was a possibility he was being photographed or filmed, which is why he kept his head down and wore a hat to obscure his face. He knew to leave the phones there.

  • @BobBob-eb4io
    @BobBob-eb4io 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You make the highest quality videos ive ever seen from someone with 10k subs keep it up and you will hit a million in no time

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the encouraging words!

  • @generaldream6206
    @generaldream6206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sup Pandox... Keep this up and I have no doubt you will hit a million subs before you know it we love this type of content

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @LoveLaw
    @LoveLaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’ve never heard of the Leigh Kerr account, that’s interesting. With the case so well-known worldwide its hard to know what is true and what is for clout. But gosh I hope this gets solved.

  • @WuTugu999
    @WuTugu999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This as amazingly well done, thank you!

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching, and thanks for your support!

    • @Olivia-jy9jf
      @Olivia-jy9jf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Garma Zabi 💯 agree.

  • @rupexo
    @rupexo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    really looking forward to seeing this channel blow up! quality content

    • @one.2622
      @one.2622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It already is

  • @tonyabrookes9931
    @tonyabrookes9931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is it that NO ONE recognizes the man in the video? SOMEONE has to know him. Such a frustrating case

    • @zldeks
      @zldeks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! I’ve had the same thought! There has to be someone out there who knows who this man is, it’s literally crazy no one has identified him when there’s so much evidence

  • @unknowngirl2908
    @unknowngirl2908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the most in depth video i have seen on this case. Thank you for posting. The resemblance of the tattoo's compared to the photos is creepy.

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't think the "catfishing" theory has anything to do with the killer. Just shows how desperate police are to find somethin

    • @creativejeans9983
      @creativejeans9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This maybe far left field, but I'm wondering could first sketch of older man described be a catfisher using the younger guys sketch as himself to trick the girls? I'm probably wrong, its so frustrating that this case has not been solved yet.

    • @cappy2282
      @cappy2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@creativejeans9983
      1) lol I know, this case pisses me off so bad and I can't believe he hasn't been caught yet either?
      2) And i think if killer used younger picture of himself to catfish...they would have found him by now (cops were at that one catfish dudes house couple days after murder...so they were on top of the girls social media connects fast?)
      2) When I watch the video of "Bridge scum" I see a man in his 40's and it looks like the first sketch. The second sketch looks nothing like "Bridge scum" so I have no clue wtf the police are doing with that sketch...just confusing?
      2) Bridge scum didn't care (or concern himself) with the girls having a cell phone? I think if there was a social media connection, first thing dude would have done was to get that phone off of Libby?
      I think killer picked the spot to kill someone and Abby and Libby were unfortunate enough to be there? There has to be a reason he was out there on a Tuesday afternoon with a bunch of sh*t (to kill someone) shoved under his jacket?
      What a dirtbag 😑

    • @creativejeans9983
      @creativejeans9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cappy2282 Yesss!! I totally agree about how the first sketch I feel accurately like you mentioned looks like he is in his 40s from the sketch and video too! The second sketch seemed far fetched and probably wasn't used as catfish bait. I was just trying to think outside the box and still end up at square one. I don't think its any of the guys that have been names mentioned so far. Creeps and monsters, yes, but maybe not this specific monster. Whoever that "leak" user name is, putting that shit on FB that they supposedly know secretly is gross and exploitative to the victims and their families.

    • @cappy2282
      @cappy2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@creativejeans9983 ... ya, I have these theories that inevitably put me back to square one, as well.
      But wtf they haven't caught the dude yet and the case is so f*cking weird that "thinking outside the box" is all we can do at this point. (The idea of someone getting away with this is unacceptable and I feel bad for police and families. They are so desperate to get answers
      2) And I agree, the FB leaks were kinda disgusting. Didn't seem like she/he was leaking info to get it out to public. (Just wanted attention and to brag about knowing details others did not?)
      Idk
      3) I thought he may have been homeless/camper but his face looks freshly shaved in video. (I only think homeless because nobody knows who he is?) Its weird to me that nobody knows who the guy is. The video is terrible quality but if that was somebody I knew...I would be able to identify him. It's like the guy is a ghost and nobody has ever seen him before.
      4) I don't think it's any of the suspects we've seen either (I wanted to convince myself that it was that John Conwell dude...but that's clearly not the case)
      5) I wanna know if they have dudes DNA (they say they do but they could be bluffing?) But without DNA this case may never be solved. Sucks

    • @creativejeans9983
      @creativejeans9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cappy2282 1) I agree with you it's beyond frustrating and maybe it's a good thing the cops are still holding back a little until they are sure? Some just think too fast and get impatient and then the media goes crazy with false narratives and then giving the monster more freedom to get away. I have to think that they know more and know what they are doing and that somehow we will get answers when the time is right I'm hoping.
      2) Yes the FB leaks were the worst and it is crazy how human beings can find some kind of sick pleasure for their own gain to exploit details that I feel are probably most likely made up or something it's sick.
      3) Yes I don't like the whole homeless guy thing no way that just isn't in this case I feel. Video is horrible quality I agree! It's annoying to only hear barley anything from that audio too which is hard to hear. He could be someone everyone knows but he's good at playing coy I don't know hmmm
      4) Yeah weird right like you want to think it's got to be one of them!! But damn it instinct says no ugh
      5) They got to have DNA of some kind. The gig butts they sound in the water though may not help but there has to be something of a trace of him and maybe that is why they are keeping quiet.

  • @accessdenied4429
    @accessdenied4429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dont understand how that killer has got away with this, someone there knows who that man is. Theres a special place in hell for the killer & ppl who have protected him.

  • @billythekidder7182
    @billythekidder7182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can a police sketch be submitted to the public and identifications not be based on appearance? Isn’t that the point of the sketch?

  • @yieldy5hunniy
    @yieldy5hunniy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great job man! This and the I-70 Killer video were fantastic. You should post this on the subreddit for this case, they’d like it too.

  • @JAMingMayo
    @JAMingMayo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has since been solved, just wanted to update anyone who may view this.

  • @shaneconsidine2617
    @shaneconsidine2617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Iv been following this case for 3.5 years .
    Your content is great bro . Like your style .
    Keep it up 👍

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the encouraging words!

  • @LoraHari81
    @LoraHari81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant stuff. Clear, no talking shite, no "I think...." no begging for likes and subs. I learn more from your content regards this case than I ever from any other youtubers.
    Thank you. Keep going 💪

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the encouraging words!

  • @m3ridyan11
    @m3ridyan11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    great content! stayed home sick today so thanks for providing me with great entertainment

  • @thedillmeister9753
    @thedillmeister9753 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It looks like they just caught and arrested the murderer

  • @YungLemus
    @YungLemus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your channels gonna start blowin up in the next 6 months I feel it the algorithm gone take wind of you🙌

  • @abidurrahman2607
    @abidurrahman2607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    just recently discovered your channel and really enjoying all the videos, keep it up! Smashing it mate

  • @bugglemagnum6213
    @bugglemagnum6213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel deserves immense viewership, its only a matter of time

  • @hustlemuscletv3489
    @hustlemuscletv3489 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well good thing they caught the guy

  • @brigidmccarthy5800
    @brigidmccarthy5800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my God I didn't realize there were so many horrible people in Indiana I also lived near Westfield where there was a serial killer at Fox hollow farm wow the cop screwed up on that too

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d like to hear more about this case if you want to reach out via Twitter or email

  • @jessiestoss2687
    @jessiestoss2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such an incredibly well done video on this case. You have given the most tasteful, most descriptive take on the case, and did a great job keeping everything in perfect order. I thought I heard and had seen everything about this case, because this is one case that haunted me and keeps me awake at night wondering. This video has enlightened me to details I did not yet know.
    You just earned another subscriber! I'm genuinely shocked that you don't have way more subscribers than you do. I'm going to recommend your channel to friends. Great job! Keep up the good work.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your incredibly kind message. I appreciate the support!

  • @danae2882
    @danae2882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like very much your thoughts and how you put together the information on this case. You are objective, not driven by unnecessary emotional statements, concise, to the point, and seems as if everything you say has been well researched and is accurate. I watched some 30 to 40 videos and audios on this case, including podcasts, and yours is the best. Thank you very much, and please keep giving us your quality work… 💝
    🥇 💯

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for your very kind words! I appreciate all the encouragement as I’m still a new creator.

  • @arttuheikkila388
    @arttuheikkila388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also discovered your channel today by youtubes recommendation. Quality video, subscribed!

  • @tppdc1495
    @tppdc1495 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's now clear Carter and team bungled the whole investigation. The sketches were a joke. RA actually already reported to a ranger he was on the bridge that day at the time the girls were. Shocking they never got to him till 6 years later. Total incompetence.

  • @trevbrandenburg8618
    @trevbrandenburg8618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel deserves so much more attention. Keep up the great work!!!

  • @griffinfisher6151
    @griffinfisher6151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    killers name is Ricky Allen, he grew up in miami, Indiana and my dad and grandfather both knew him

  • @michaeldavis6914
    @michaeldavis6914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Handcuffs and a gun? He told them they were under arrest for trespassing? For some reason, I have had a feeling it was a cop for a while, or at least someone in law enforcement. Sounds like it might be the case.

    • @brigidmccarthy5800
      @brigidmccarthy5800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I immediately thought that it's so strange that they cut the search short and either it is a cop or it's someone pretending to be they should look it backgrounds of people imitating officers

    • @Dexter037S4
      @Dexter037S4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brigidmccarthy5800 It's a cop, the inflection on the voice tells me everything.

    • @mintjulius275
      @mintjulius275 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would explain why they haven't caught anyone yet. Fuckin thin blue line

    • @DestinyKiller
      @DestinyKiller หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, those are some huge assumptions.

  • @ayeuplink1428
    @ayeuplink1428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m telling you, you keep up your I-70 video and this Delphi one layout and style up your channel is going to explode.

  • @bisexualsmoothtalker1270
    @bisexualsmoothtalker1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Liberty would’ve been a really amazing photographer. But some selfish, sick monster had to take all of that away. Rest in piece, Abby and Liberty.

  • @justins794
    @justins794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should keep doing unsolved murders, and also unsolved disappearances as well, it's your best ones

  • @kuromigotchi
    @kuromigotchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work! The Delphi murders break my heart and I can only pray that they get justice.

  • @cherylb2008
    @cherylb2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don’t recall that they found something under the bridge- didn’t know that. Knew Libby had her black Nike found at the area before crossing the creek. The anniversary is coming up. . Also more than one person in charge collaborated on stopping the search. Safety was an issue.

  • @rabratch
    @rabratch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely outstanding channel. I love the production quality and everything else about your channel. You are extremely underrated and I know this channel will explode in popularity. This is too good not too. I've watched channels like this for years and you have some of the best I've ever seen. Other like LEMINO, That Chapter, Natures Temper and Nexpo all have nothing on your outstanding quality. I am very impressed at how you even surpass them in quality at times. I can't wait to see more from you!

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is one of the nicest comments I’ve received recently. Thanks very much for your encouraging words.
      Should be a new video in ~2 weeks!

    • @rabratch
      @rabratch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't wait! I'm going to show my wife this channel and encourage my friends to watch it as well. I look forward to seeing your channel explode! If you don't mind, I'd love to name off some of my favorites. All of the missing 411s were extremely interesting, as well as the delphi murders, i-70 killer and the John Titor video. All very interesting! Thank you for what you do

    • @jessiestoss2687
      @jessiestoss2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? This looks like a professional documentary that had a ton of money invested into a budget. I'm very impressed with his work.

  • @jamiedecker7853
    @jamiedecker7853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those tattoos!!!!!!! They don't just resemble the girls, the pics look almost identical. That gave me goosebumps. That can't be coincidence! It's so frightening to think that someone can do this and not get caught!!! They're STILL out there preying on other children. I hope they catch this sicko and they get what's coming to them.
    RIP dear Abigail and Liberty. 👼👼
    New sub BTW! Love your content.❤️

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @cherall1
      @cherall1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s been debunked that he had the tattoo before 2017.

    • @jessiestoss2687
      @jessiestoss2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cherall1 Though you have to admit that the uncanny resemblance to the victims is creepy af.

  • @christinacatlover4520
    @christinacatlover4520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why you don't have more followers. Well made videos, good content, smooth narration. You should be at least in the 100k+.

  • @hrhplease9119
    @hrhplease9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was very good. This is my first time watching anything on your channel and I can tell the amount of research put in as a relates to the facts and information presented in this video. Well done, can’t wait to go back and watch past episodes. 👍🏻🔥🥰🕊

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hard to believe this case hasn't been solved considering how high profile it is and that there's audio and video of the killer out there. Surely someone recognizes the guy?

  • @jamesharen8607
    @jamesharen8607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good audio on the "guys"...the way he says "guys" is telling...I know he was likely trying to sound like an officer, but it dosent sound like a phony attempt..the tone, pronunciation, cadence are all very approiate if he was an officer approaching girls their age and had committed an offense like tresspassing..it's too spot on..if this guy isn't a police officer or had been in the past...then he's done something in his life that gives him confidence he can come across so authentic..I think we need to be looking at security guards, like school security or mall security, sporting events...he has experience with handling girls their age involved in similar situations as this..I think he's had to warn teens about rules like trespassing in a legitimate senario in his recent past..so any authoritarian security type job or position that puts you around kids this age...his statement was kinda ambiguous as to there gender, even for a psychopath I think it would be hard not to see them as the teen girls that he's been hoping to and now is about to predate.. makes me think he worked on removing or was trained to remove any possible sexual overtones from his communications in his position were he developed this...like anyone exercising authority, espicaly with women or children, are typicaly trained to or take it on themselves to do in these type of jobs..his accent sounds like he's from that greater area...like indiana or the surrounding states..dosent sound very rural though...sounds urban or suburban and somewhat educated...he ofcourse didn't know he was being recorded so the fact he was likely portraying an officer tells us something..it's a somewhat obvious ruse anyone might could come up with, but the familiarity and ease in which he does it tells me this isn't a con he practiced or worked on for this event or other attempts...it's to effortless and natural...this attitude has been honed in an authentic professional enviorment...I would look at church youth leaders or security...not only because it very much reminded me of that just on its surface or because of the religious connotations at the murder scene...but because I could see someone using a position like that as a disguise to get in proximity to the type of prey he likes...and church events are about as non threatening as it gets...the way he sells the line and it's delivery make me think he wants them to be at ease and care free, and needs them to be comfortable to make him comfortable doing what he's doing

  • @DJ.-
    @DJ.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am so glad you showed up in my recommendations!! Now sir, you need to pump out a bunch more videos. 😉 Seriously, you are doing a great job, there is not one thing I could think of that you have not already conquered.
    I will be checking out your Patreon soon.
    Thank you for great content!!

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching, and thanks for the very encouraging words!

    • @DJ.-
      @DJ.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pandoxvideos I became a member of your Patreon last night. You probably won't hear much from me. I'm the gal hiding in the background ☺️ And you are very welcome! Edited to add: I'm Dana on Patreon.

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJ.- Dana, thanks so much for your support!!!

    • @DJ.-
      @DJ.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pandoxvideos Very Welcome!!😊 Thank you for your content!

  • @nl1724
    @nl1724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is probably the one cold case I really wanna see solved! I used to live in northwestern Indiana and had a friend who was from Delphi and we would talk about this case and he showed me the picture of the guy in the video! Man my friends actually passed away since then but this brings back memories. Would love to see someone crack this case 🙌💯

  • @HeyMyNameIsJared
    @HeyMyNameIsJared ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you please return to this case? I’m a fan of your content and think there are so many more details from years ago as well as still unraveling that I think deserves another look!

  • @evilqtip7098
    @evilqtip7098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your outstanding in your explanation on these girls.. and the killer...
    Hope it might lead to capture one day. Those girls need justice..

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surprised you didn’t delve into the “town coverup” conspiracy

  • @jonismith9723
    @jonismith9723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if it's a cop that did this ? Could the other cops be covering it up to protect one of their own ?wondering minds like mine want to find out

  • @daddydobson200
    @daddydobson200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude these videos are incredibley well made, i cant wait to see u grow, if u dont hit 100k subs soon imma throw hands

    • @pandoxvideos
      @pandoxvideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words!!!

  • @manjsher3094
    @manjsher3094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New eyes need to be brought to this case, current LE needs to be retired form it.

  • @constipatedpotato8398
    @constipatedpotato8398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is really good
    Wish you the best in the future

  • @cherylb2008
    @cherylb2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’re very good at this- really good content

  • @JennWatson
    @JennWatson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazingly thorough video analysis- thank you!

  • @lightguys234
    @lightguys234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep uploading brother you're doing amazing

  • @clementeensy
    @clementeensy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid!!!

  • @kylanm96
    @kylanm96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally just found your channel early this morning while I was trying to find something to listen to while I got ready for work, and dude, I don’t know if it’s the monotone voice or what but your videos are super fucking eery. I was feeling paranoid in the comfort of my home on just another Tuesday morning. In other words: good shit, man.

  • @madisonmaya94
    @madisonmaya94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is extremely well researched and presented

    • @simdal3088
      @simdal3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leigh kerr is anything but a confirmed source, also the catfish theory is just that a theory. This is al highly speculative.