Antonio Gates never flopped and he came from college Basketball no football and had a HOF career. Walked right off the ncaa tournament floor to the NFL football field and killed these guys . We will never see a college football player come to the NBA period, let alone have a HOF career
That is some garbage about flopping and softness - ask a 225lb Ryan Clarke to stop a 260 lb LeBron James on the basketball court and give the offensive player an extra point for running over the defensive player and we will see who is tough. This is PHYSICS not MENTALITY - you all cannot be that stupid FLOPPING is done to get a CALL not because they are SOFT
No it doesn't. That's a dumb argument, Ward played 4 years of basketball as well in college. Antonio Gates never played college football and signed as an undrafted free agent and was successful. Jimmy Graham played 4 years of college basketball returned for grad school and played 1 season of football and was drafted in the 3rd round.
@@ronniekregar3482 If you are referring to Kurt Warner who was working at a grocery store, I think you need to revisit Warner's entire football journey before getting back into the NFL. He had plenty of foot experience to include Arena ana NFL Europe after he went undrafted and was later picked up by the Packers, let go, and made a comeback.
High School and pro is 1000x different😂😂😂 it's a reason why you can play NBA right out of High School but no way in hell can a person 18 years old play NFL right out of High School 😂😂😂
@@ronniekregar3482 btw Dennis rodman was plucked off the streets was undrafted and many NBA players were off the playground never even went to college so get your facts straight
@@ronald8071 Kurt Warner was literally bagging groceries and winning NFL MVP a year later. It's not lies. Shannon himself just finished raving about how DJ Augustine, the NC State dude from the NCAA tournament could play in the NFL if basketball didn't work out. Dennis Rodman was not plucked off the street lol, he played College basketball
@@ronald8071 Kurt Warner went from bagging groceries to NFL MVP lol. Dennis Rodman was not plucked off the street, he played College basketball and averaged 17 ppg and was drafted in the second round lol. Get YOUR facts straight buddy lol
To expect an NBA player to play in the NFL with highschool football experience is like expecting me to be able to build the Taj Mahal, with wood shop experience😂
Guys that could play basketball sure, but not play in the NBA. Football teams pluck dudes off the street all the time, like straight out the grocery store. Basketball teams can't do that lol
@@ronniekregar3482 nigga what?? Anyone that “came off the street” in football has already been working out and waiting on calls back from teams that’s how I know you don’t know anything about what you tryna talk about… nba teams had uber drivers on their teams too so what does mean?? Just like how you said those football guys can play basketball not in the nba, those nba guys can play football not in the nf💯 a lot of the basketball greats couldn’t handle football or their parents wouldn’t allow them to and that’s fir a reason it I don’t expect couch potatoes to understand that
What Shannon saying is that NBA players don’t have the callous to play! U gotta want to hit somebody b2b2b2b .. NBA players thinking all u gotta do is run routes 😂 they’ll think load management
@@vernonharrison2488lol, he's 1000% correct ... Allen Iverson and Charlie Ward were both 6ft tall and 180 pounds soaking wet and they were amazing football players. Football teams pull guys off the street all the time lol.
@@ronniekregar3482 did he say anything about past players? There's plenty of players throughout history that were good at multiple sports, he said he could take 30 players from the NBA but pat couldn't take 30 from the NFL, the NBA take guys off the streets too what are you trying to clown about??
@@ronniekregar3482 the celebrity basketball have NFL players every year balling!!! The NFL can't even have a celebrity contact game because the NBA players would 1000% get hurt, or get embarrassed
It's more common for athletes to play basketball coming up and on the collegiate level and then move to football at the NFL level have numerous cases for that. Couple of Hall of Fame tight ends. Rarely hear it the other way around . Basketball is a more skilled sport. Football is easier to transition to. I'm a Football player. Basketball is a different type in shape 😩
I worked the sideline for the Raiders for 2 seasons. TV doesn't do the hips justice. Sitting front row doesn't do it justice. The sound alone was crazy to me. You can feel the hits in your chest from the sideline and not.just the big collisions, every damn play.
He also was fast as hell and wasn’t out there getting killed. And consistently played football his whole life and still was injured at times. Also his name is spelled DeSean.
One thing we do know is there were a few NFL stars that had success playing other professional sports at an extreme high level... The NBA's arguably greatest player went to try professional baseball, and flopped...
I played football my freshman year in high school. Football players are wired different. Its takes physical and mental toughness that most humans dont have.
@@jsanders9975 Also, do you think a receivers job is just to run fast down the field and catch the ball? People who think that way don't understand how receiving actually works. The nfl game is miles more complicated than the average fan even cares to realize.
People who don't play football just don't understand. My son had a kid that played football with him when they were 7-8 he had 36 TDs in one season. He was very gifted athletically. When he they were 9 years old, he experienced a hard crack back block that knocked the wind out of him. He was okay but that changed him forever. Since that play he's never stepped on a football field and put on a pair of pads since. 😂 There have been multiple football players that have transitioned to other sports.Deion and Bo Jackson baseball. Marvin Bracy and Marquise Goodwin track and field etc. name me a NBA ( Not college) player that has transitioned or played another sport while in the NBA at a high level?
Until the first hit they take, but todays soft AF NBA players would quit the first day of practice, especially after the first time a coach talked at them sideways!
Shannon is amazing. He wants all the smoke deserves it and can more than easily handle it. Shannon needs to talk to Austin daddy’s boy rivers face to face.
Shannon hit the nail on the head with the skill comment that’s really what Austin was saying I can grab a fast and athletic NBA guy and ask him to beat a DB and catch a football a football player has to learn not to travel, double dribble and shoot a basketball…..lol
Patting possibility in their prime and healthy… Aaron Gordon, Dearon Fox, Malik Monk, Ja Morant, Bam Adeyabo, John Wall, Nate Robinson, Marcus Smart, Zion Williamson, Scoot Henderson
Don't tell me A superb athlete can't play football I name a few football players that are in today's league that doesn't have the best of talent yet in the NFL
Molly why do you speak smh 🤣
Bro!! Smh!!😂😂😂 Straight up 💯
talkin bout runnin routes..WTF 😂
I can't stand her😠☹️
Best comment and it's not even close.
SAS WAS READY TO TELL HER TO STFU 😂😂
Ryan Clark said it best.aint no flopping
Lies
There is though
Not from defensive players.. only the QB and Wr be flopping.. everybody else be hitting
NFL players flop all the time.
Antonio Gates never flopped and he came from college Basketball no football and had a HOF career. Walked right off the ncaa tournament floor to the NFL football field and killed these guys . We will never see a college football player come to the NBA period, let alone have a HOF career
Anytime someone says “Calm down. We’re just having a conversation” they know they’ve lost the debate. 🤣🤣
If even unc says lebron cannot do it. Than discussion is over
When he said Anthony Edwards could play running back he lost me lol 😂
I'll sooner take eddie lacy out of retirement before ant man at RB
I'm a football guy, he played football first and was very good
I'm a football guy, he played football first and was very good
@@lamontturner5772Against NFL players.?
perk always loses me when he says rudy goberts name lol
NBA players complain about being fouled..imagine a NBA players coming across the middle on a slant 😂😂😂😂😂
POW!!!!!!!💥
😂
Facts.
That is some garbage about flopping and softness - ask a 225lb Ryan Clarke to stop a 260 lb LeBron James on the basketball court and give the offensive player an extra point for running over the defensive player and we will see who is tough. This is PHYSICS not MENTALITY - you all cannot be that stupid FLOPPING is done to get a CALL not because they are SOFT
TKO!!!!!!
Ask Austin Rivers could he go out there and play football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Facts he knows he cant
He never said him clown
He couldn't play in the NBA without Daddy's help 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He wouldn't last five plays. Hell he was trash in the NBA.
He barely can play basketball, so what makes you think he can play football. Austin Rivers only got in the league is because of his daddy.
Unc got on his ass 😂
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facts😂
No diddy
Could you imagine a basketball guy coming into Ravens camp in the 2000's.. I bet Ray Ray wouldnt have been able to sleep 😂😂😂😂😂
03:45 Is the story "we try to move a man against his will".
Charlie Ward ends the whole debate
No it doesn't. That's a dumb argument, Ward played 4 years of basketball as well in college. Antonio Gates never played college football and signed as an undrafted free agent and was successful. Jimmy Graham played 4 years of college basketball returned for grad school and played 1 season of football and was drafted in the 3rd round.
not really, we talking playing only one sport your entire life and changing sports mid career
Lolol, football teams pluck dudes off the street all the time, like straight out the grocery store lol. Basketball teams can't do that lol
Not really. He chose an easier sport which is why some choose basketball not because they can't play football.
@@ronniekregar3482 If you are referring to Kurt Warner who was working at a grocery store, I think you need to revisit Warner's entire football journey before getting back into the NFL. He had plenty of foot experience to include Arena ana NFL Europe after he went undrafted and was later picked up by the Packers, let go, and made a comeback.
It's funny Perk only thinking about running and jumping, take that hit my boy and tell me how you feeling after an hour of that
facts
I know high schoolers that'll break perk. He trippin.
Basketball players will look far more skilled and professional on footbal team than football players on basketball team
@@momcilojabucilo9320 I disagree
@@momcilojabucilo9320 yea you tripping 🤣
Perkins was hurt
Told that boy he wasn't built like that. Perk said, "Who"
High School and pro is 1000x different😂😂😂 it's a reason why you can play NBA right out of High School but no way in hell can a person 18 years old play NFL right out of High School 😂😂😂
No u can’t no more my guy😭😭😭 I hear you doe
@@izzybritt4671but they could its just not allowed
Iya cuz u not fat enough to play football after hs smh
Shannon tellin Perk he not built lik dat..Big Perk "Who"😂😂😂
Growing up the basketball players always can play football but the football players couldn't play basketball
Perk is a Klown!!!!!LOL. Molly brings nothing to this conversation.
I hate hypothetical conversations
The disrespect for NFL players by the NBA is astounding. They're smelling themselves a bit too much.
Lolol, football teams pluck dudes off the street all the time, like straight out the grocery store lol. Basketball teams can't do that lol
@@ronniekregar3482 pure lies no NFL teams get dudes off the streets they talking NFL dude not high school learn to read
@@ronniekregar3482 btw Dennis rodman was plucked off the streets was undrafted and many NBA players were off the playground never even went to college so get your facts straight
@@ronald8071 Kurt Warner was literally bagging groceries and winning NFL MVP a year later. It's not lies. Shannon himself just finished raving about how DJ Augustine, the NC State dude from the NCAA tournament could play in the NFL if basketball didn't work out. Dennis Rodman was not plucked off the street lol, he played College basketball
@@ronald8071 Kurt Warner went from bagging groceries to NFL MVP lol. Dennis Rodman was not plucked off the street, he played College basketball and averaged 17 ppg and was drafted in the second round lol. Get YOUR facts straight buddy lol
NBA ain’t built tough enough mentally to HANDLE the rigors of. NFL
To expect an NBA player to play in the NFL with highschool football experience is like expecting me to be able to build the Taj Mahal, with wood shop experience😂
One season in the NFL and they’ll never be healthy enough to step back on the court 😂😂😂
Molly please stop, she said “Maybe he means run routes”😂😂😂🤣
Miles Garret, T.O., Randy Moss, Julius Peppers…there a few guys in the NFL that I think could play in the NBA
Guys that could play basketball sure, but not play in the NBA. Football teams pluck dudes off the street all the time, like straight out the grocery store. Basketball teams can't do that lol
@@ronniekregar3482 stop lying name one player in NFL plucked off street? Exactly you can't name any gtfoh
Joey Graham and Tony Gonzalez both played D1 basketball
@@ronniekregar3482 nigga what?? Anyone that “came off the street” in football has already been working out and waiting on calls back from teams that’s how I know you don’t know anything about what you tryna talk about… nba teams had uber drivers on their teams too so what does mean?? Just like how you said those football guys can play basketball not in the nba, those nba guys can play football not in the nf💯 a lot of the basketball greats couldn’t handle football or their parents wouldn’t allow them to and that’s fir a reason it I don’t expect couch potatoes to understand that
TO isnt that good in basketball
Molly is sometimes so cute, she said' maybe he meant run routes'
I lost it 🤣
They need to do real exploration about why NBA players are fucking delusional
What Shannon saying is that NBA players don’t have the callous to play! U gotta want to hit somebody b2b2b2b .. NBA players thinking all u gotta do is run routes 😂 they’ll think load management
Always talks about high school lol.....
Football in the 80's and 90's was far more physical as well
ANY ERA FROM THE 90S on back up to the 40s football was a bloodbath
Man if you put any NBA players on the NFL field right now they'd get broken immediately.
Sharp had the best answer to all this BS. Take yall bad A to training camp
How many high school and college football players were outstanding, but never made it to the NFL
Molly’s voice gets under my skin
Lebronze will be in ICU as soon as the whistle blows
Klay Thompson can play running back rn 😂😂😂
Fred Warner vs Russell Westbrook in the Oklahoma drill. I’m taking Fred all Day.
Naw I’m taking Westbrook he a real dogg
@investingoutdabluu2210 Sir, whatever you smoking on, put that 💩 down!
@investingoutdabluu2210 you don't even believe that shit. You just saying anything 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@investingoutdabluu2210you gotta be stupid
There’s literally no reason for that lady to be there… speaking… about nothing…
Why Austin rivers look like Andrew Tate with hair?
Molly is that kind of chick that has to get the last word. The fly that buzzing around your ear that won't leave.
It was the way Austin was saying it, he was sassy wit it
He can get mad all he wants. He is DEAD WRONG !!!!
@@johnnywarner4468 he definitely was wrong
@@vernonharrison2488lol, he's 1000% correct ... Allen Iverson and Charlie Ward were both 6ft tall and 180 pounds soaking wet and they were amazing football players. Football teams pull guys off the street all the time lol.
@@ronniekregar3482 did he say anything about past players? There's plenty of players throughout history that were good at multiple sports, he said he could take 30 players from the NBA but pat couldn't take 30 from the NFL, the NBA take guys off the streets too what are you trying to clown about??
@@ronniekregar3482 the celebrity basketball have NFL players every year balling!!! The NFL can't even have a celebrity contact game because the NBA players would 1000% get hurt, or get embarrassed
It's more common for athletes to play basketball coming up and on the collegiate level and then move to football at the NFL level have numerous cases for that. Couple of Hall of Fame tight ends. Rarely hear it the other way around . Basketball is a more skilled sport. Football is easier to transition to. I'm a Football player. Basketball is a different type in shape 😩
Did you all forget about Allen Iverson?!!!! Boy was a freak in football and basketball. State player of the year in BOTH sports.
He went to Duke, I’d like to see Rivers take a PUNT return from Carolina Panthers as ask him how he feels afterwards.
I worked the sideline for the Raiders for 2 seasons. TV doesn't do the hips justice. Sitting front row doesn't do it justice. The sound alone was crazy to me. You can feel the hits in your chest from the sideline and not.just the big collisions, every damn play.
NBA Basketball player just need to stop on this foolishness.
Ughhh….Shut up, Molly!!!!
Shay ready to go run through Perk right now 😂😂😂
Bo jackson did it🤷🏿♂️
Julius Peppers did it
Deion Sanders did it
Baseball nt basketball
It's rare.
Baseball
Pro bowl is two hand touch now. The nba and NFL get something popping for pro bowl game to bring back some life to the Allstars game. Let see it
DeShawn Jackson was 170 at WR a. He survived 10yrs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He also was fast as hell and wasn’t out there getting killed. And consistently played football his whole life and still was injured at times. Also his name is spelled DeSean.
Didn’t we just see Nate Robinson go try to play boxing 🥊🤔
Deron Williams just beat a nfl player in boxing
Stg😂
They gonna have fun on that gridiron 😂😂
They all just ganged up on Ryan and blamed him to calm it down. Lol 😂.
Jalen hurts is stronger than any player in the nba. You think an nba player could block tj watt? Myles garret? Could cover tyreek hill?
One thing we do know is there were a few NFL stars that had success playing other professional sports at an extreme high level... The NBA's arguably greatest player went to try professional baseball, and flopped...
Julius Peppers the only one I know who played basketball and played football. So it's one player
Shannon be yelling bro.
I'll be yelling too if I gotta listen to that foolishness!!!
Fr 💯 shit is annoying. Like what is the yelling for
Don’t forget Alan Iversen
Leflop would break, Austin rivers would have no kneecaps after one hit.
Molly voice is annoying it’s equivalent to someone scratching on a chalkboard
Most football players are too big and muscular to play in the nba, but some nba players could be wide receivers or TE in the NFL.
There's undoubtedly nba players that could play immediately in the nfl. There's many packages, positions, opportunities in nfl vs in basketball.
IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FROM 1980 T0 2008 THEN IM WITH SHANNON. BUT IF WE ARE TALKING TODAY? IM WITH PERK
Nah
Julius Peppers played basketball & football at NC
That joker analogy was terrible lol that man is 280 and also like 6’10 😂
I played football my freshman year in high school. Football players are wired different. Its takes physical and mental toughness that most humans dont have.
Would love to see any NBA player line up against a NFL Player. They would light him the hell up
Basketball players are more skilled athletes. Football players mentality is on a different level
I'm a nba fan, I like this, unk I agree 100% with u. Ward I'm a knicks fan I knew him.
Molly always messes everything up. Smh
Molly tryin to reason
I just want to know what basketball player is going to run up the middle with ray Lewis and jj watt lol or Bobby Wagner 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Prime Derek Rose 6-3 190 would be a beast at receiver. Agility, vertical, size and speed. Derek Rose would be a Hall of Famer!!! Prove me wrong
And he would last exactly 8 games and crumble into dust
@@ajitkirpekar4251 😂
@@jsanders9975 Also, do you think a receivers job is just to run fast down the field and catch the ball? People who think that way don't understand how receiving actually works. The nfl game is miles more complicated than the average fan even cares to realize.
@@ajitkirpekar4251 Stop it..all these guys are athletes. The only thing that separates them is experience and training.
@@jsanders9975 then why do some NFL players suck and bust out while others succeed if it's just "training" and experience?
Him bringing up charlie ward kind of proves the point. Heisman in football. Role player in basketball.
Anyone who thinks that NBA players can go from the hardwood and straight to the football field right now and play got a few screws loose.
Exactly all football defenders can box out n rebound
People who don't play football just don't understand. My son had a kid that played football with him when they were 7-8 he had 36 TDs in one season. He was very gifted athletically. When he they were 9 years old, he experienced a hard crack back block that knocked the wind out of him. He was okay but that changed him forever. Since that play he's never stepped on a football field and put on a pair of pads since. 😂 There have been multiple football players that have transitioned to other sports.Deion and Bo Jackson baseball. Marvin Bracy and Marquise Goodwin track and field etc. name me a NBA ( Not college) player that has transitioned or played another sport while in the NBA at a high level?
😂😂😂 this man said leflop James
Allen Iverson was the Man in high school in Virginia,.
Its like when a dude that can fight thinks he can box. Totally different ballgame
They have to distinguish playing just football and playing in the NFL
NBA players would break all the touchdown records just hold on the ball
Most basketball players where skill positions players in highschool. Your not jumping in as no DB in the NFL but you can have success as a receiver.
Until the first hit they take, but todays soft AF NBA players would quit the first day of practice, especially after the first time a coach talked at them sideways!
What about Antonio gates Tony Gonzales played basketball and became great TE of all time
Flopping is gamesmanship. Football players flop too.
Shannon is amazing. He wants all the smoke deserves it and can more than easily handle it. Shannon needs to talk to Austin daddy’s boy rivers face to face.
You can have the mentality until you exoerience the physicality. I know Sharpe wanted violence when he cursed without hesitation.
OBJ, Myles G, Tee Higgins, Micah Parsons, T Kelce, T Hill, and more. And Maholmes was a 3 sport star.
Molly just sit there, look beautiful and shut up
Shannon hit the nail on the head with the skill comment that’s really what Austin was saying I can grab a fast and athletic NBA guy and ask him to beat a DB and catch a football a football player has to learn not to travel, double dribble and shoot a basketball…..lol
That’s not happening often either I got 5 yards to bully the wr where I want him to go
Why do yall act like football player don't dribble and shoot cj stroud gave jaquez 40 ain't he in da nba
NBA players haven’t even learned not to travel. Refs just gave up calling it all the time.
No way in hell I haven't played in 10 yrs never made it pro I WOULD CRUSH AUSTIN RIVERS noway he can play in NFL
He said 30..Austin tripping 🤣
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😂😂😂😂
Catch that pass coming across on a slant or have the safety coming down on a hitch routine to blow up the wideout 😂😂😂😂😂
Patting possibility in their prime and healthy… Aaron Gordon, Dearon Fox, Malik Monk, Ja Morant, Bam Adeyabo, John Wall, Nate Robinson, Marcus Smart, Zion Williamson, Scoot Henderson
14:13 Kid speaking facts. 🤣
They say every play in the NFL is like a car wreck.... So... NBA players could go on the field right now and take that kind of punishment????
Molly you weren't gonna say shit 🤣🤣🤣
Don't tell me A superb athlete can't play football I name a few football players that are in today's league that doesn't have the best of talent yet in the NFL
NBA players can't even stay on the court. How do you think they can stay on the field 😂