Illmango has reached an equilibrium with the world, at this point any extra efficiency is negated by slowing time down. I want to see your take in a giant bamboo farm, how you manage the ligth level will be interesting.
"MSPT dropped from a bit over 50 now to around 23, so huge improvement, we would obviously like this in Vanilla but Mojang has other priorities like chat reporting" The 1.19 update is so laughably bad, but I am glad that we can laugh about this already.
Mud is cool, frogs are cool, ancient cities are cool. There's a lot of great things in 1.19. The fact that we don't get performance updates much on Java is only because they want us to make the jump onto Bedrock where vanilla performance is way better. Sure we who use or make mods and deal with issues ourselves will be fine with Java as it is but given time more and more people will choose Bedrock over Java. From a business standpoint Java is a liability. Microsoft can afford running two release versions of the game at the same time to garner some goodwill from the players in general but some day, when the Java population is small enough it will stop being updated. And when that day comes we will be happy that there is already a thriving modding community who can continue with the unofficial support for java Minecraft So in a long run it's probably a good thing for java that Microsoft is slowly letting it rot already
To be fair I highly doubt this was Mojang's choice, sounds like Microsoft interference. But still, Mojang have a habit of neglecting the games more hidden flaws.
@@RichHeart89 Nah ancient cities ain't cool anymore. It's not cool when you're traveling long distances in the nether, set up a portal, go to the overworld, and then end up near a shrieker where you set it off 3 times. Happened to me 10 times already and 2 times in a row. It's not good for the heart of hardcore players. I just want to travel not fight the warden. This update just made it more frequent for you to spawn in caves under y=0 if you're traveling from the nether. 🥴
The recent updates to the game has been fairly good content wise. Way better terrain generation, better caves, taller worlds, lots of really nice building blocks, moss (best block in the game). That they have not done huge work on performance does no make it a laughably bad update.
As it happens, 4,319,648 smooth stone slabs works out to almost exactly 2500 shulker boxes full of smooth stone slabs - it's 2499 full shulker boxes, plus another shulker box that's five and a half stacks short of being full. You'd need 47 double chests full of shulker boxes to store it all. I don't know what's more intimidating - the scale of this farm, or the fact that SciCraft can think "47 double chests of shulker boxes? Yeah, that seems manageable. Maybe this farm is worth building."
@@baconator678 If you want the material list, you can see it by pausing at 12:07. If you want the XYZ measurements, then it's 384 blocks in the Y direction (from the new lowest point in the world to the new highest point), and a circle with a diameter of approximately 256 blocks in X and Z (you'd have to see the exact schematics for details).
For anyone interested, in an XP farm that would translate 2.75M (2.63M for nether portal version) XP per hour. That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian XP farms respectively. Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maxed out furnace based XP farm (fastest possible in the game).
Fun fact: you can afk farm this if you have the player placing furnace and blow them up with duped tnt. Since the 100% drop rate makes you loose no furnaces its a viable afk xp farm concept
A) can’t wait for the series to continue B) What happens if you use the end portal blocks where the netherbrick fence is, won’t that save you the layers that have the end portal and therefor be more compact :)
Single block end portal would be too much work in vanilla. Creating end portal destroying frame portal would be night mare specially in this huge number
Just as I’ve been gearing up to build what I perceive in my head to be a massive underground cactus farm of eight 8x8 layer modules, Mango posts this. 😂
insane... really interesting to see what each farm's maximum rate is when only lag-optimisation is the limiting factor, and what lag-optimisations you come up with
"I've tried to make this as survival friendly as possible" LOL this is insane, only the Sci members would actually be crazy enough to build this in survival
@@cedriccappelle Just run a bunch of furnaces in parallel. You have to wait a bit to "buffer" but then you can have a god particle every 3.25 seconds on average
@@cedriccappelle would require about ~8000 furnaces. Didn't sound that absurd until i realized the biggest super smelter I could find has 'only' 6000 of them
When you can hear the smile of Ilmango you know its a big farm. x) (Also a cactus farm that requires to build another cactus farm to get 1 million cactus just to build it is ... Too big for conventional uses. x) If you're on an economy server where you can spam /sell all though... You're rich! )
I’d prefer a series where you make some of the most compact farms and fit them all close enough that you can ask in a spot and run like 100 small farms at once
@@androov2797 1 xp per cactus meaning 2750k (2630k for nether portal version) xp per hour. That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian xp fam respectively. Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maximum furnace based xp farm.
Probably the best idea for this farm is to have it somewhere in the world where you cant reach easyly. And then just have an entrace on the nether os you can just enable it whenever you need
Funny, a decade later and we're back to doing the old dataless822 style "because we can" mega-farms. Albeit, with a lot more tools, mechanics and scale.
If you are using end portals, could you just get rid of the water collection system entirely and fill each layer with end portals? You could maybe even take it a step further and make each layer 1 block shorter by alternating which blocks you place the cactus on.
Very nice farm design! Could you please leave a world download or a schematic in the description because i plan on accually building this im my survival world. Great video as always.
Some people think the proof of god and intelligent design is because a banana fits into the palm of a human hand. Now imagine spawning into a world and coming across this monstrosity..
Huge farm suggestion: lava farm. As fun as it would be on its own, I couldn't find a industrially big lava farm. That would also be perfect to fuel your obsidian farm! :D (the one where you pick up lava, then the lava is converted to obsidian, and then you break it) And if we already have a big lava farm, might as well use some withers to break the obsidian. Someone already made the breaking chamber, but they can't design a 5,800 lava/h lava farm xD
@@PanNic97 i know that they both do. I didnt know that you could expand the lava farm design though. Will try making the obsidian farm's lava farm bigger once i can play mc again then lol.
13:10 I don't think you can make an "larger" farm of the game, because the height limit in older version was lower. So you yould have 16x16 Chunks, but "only" 256 Blocks height. Now you have 210? Chunks or something but almost 400 Blocks height.
the fact that scicraft was already considering building this is scary.
Edit: bruh
That's what scicraft is sci fi of Minecraft
@bruh That would explain time travelers and nuclear meltdowns.
@@মেহেদীহাসান-ষ৭গ I thought it was science craft?
@@thelodm6691 it is
may as well ya know
Ahh yes now i can get green dye
Now you can get xp in peaceful.
It’s still not enough green dye
Im bouta make this in my sky block world
@@rogue_ruggie yes
@@sempervelox genius
Illmango has reached an equilibrium with the world, at this point any extra efficiency is negated by slowing time down.
I want to see your take in a giant bamboo farm, how you manage the ligth level will be interesting.
The singularity of minecraft. "We thought about building this, but we'll distort time and puting that into our calculations, it's not worth it"
That is the best way of describing lag EVER
I think you mean "negated"
The time dilation caused by the gravitational force of those cacti is no joke
"MSPT dropped from a bit over 50 now to around 23, so huge improvement, we would obviously like this in Vanilla but Mojang has other priorities like chat reporting"
The 1.19 update is so laughably bad, but I am glad that we can laugh about this already.
Mud is cool, frogs are cool, ancient cities are cool. There's a lot of great things in 1.19.
The fact that we don't get performance updates much on Java is only because they want us to make the jump onto Bedrock where vanilla performance is way better. Sure we who use or make mods and deal with issues ourselves will be fine with Java as it is but given time more and more people will choose Bedrock over Java. From a business standpoint Java is a liability. Microsoft can afford running two release versions of the game at the same time to garner some goodwill from the players in general but some day, when the Java population is small enough it will stop being updated. And when that day comes we will be happy that there is already a thriving modding community who can continue with the unofficial support for java Minecraft
So in a long run it's probably a good thing for java that Microsoft is slowly letting it rot already
To be fair I highly doubt this was Mojang's choice, sounds like Microsoft interference. But still, Mojang have a habit of neglecting the games more hidden flaws.
@@RichHeart89 bedrock bad, Java good
@@RichHeart89 Nah ancient cities ain't cool anymore. It's not cool when you're traveling long distances in the nether, set up a portal, go to the overworld, and then end up near a shrieker where you set it off 3 times. Happened to me 10 times already and 2 times in a row. It's not good for the heart of hardcore players. I just want to travel not fight the warden. This update just made it more frequent for you to spawn in caves under y=0 if you're traveling from the nether. 🥴
The recent updates to the game has been fairly good content wise. Way better terrain generation, better caves, taller worlds, lots of really nice building blocks, moss (best block in the game).
That they have not done huge work on performance does no make it a laughably bad update.
“You’d need 1.1 million cactus”
So you need a cactus farm, to build a cactus farm 😂
Thats what I was thinking!
And probably an even smaller cactus farm to build that farm, and maybe a small starter cactus farm to build that one.
You would build it up and add the cactus as it grows like most cactus farm
@@cacl2500 Or maybe use this design but at a smaller scale and just make it larger when you have more cactus available?
You can just build this farm and let it already start producing cactus while you continue building it.
As it happens, 4,319,648 smooth stone slabs works out to almost exactly 2500 shulker boxes full of smooth stone slabs - it's 2499 full shulker boxes, plus another shulker box that's five and a half stacks short of being full. You'd need 47 double chests full of shulker boxes to store it all.
I don't know what's more intimidating - the scale of this farm, or the fact that SciCraft can think "47 double chests of shulker boxes? Yeah, that seems manageable. Maybe this farm is worth building."
can u give me the measurements?
@@baconator678 If you want the material list, you can see it by pausing at 12:07. If you want the XYZ measurements, then it's 384 blocks in the Y direction (from the new lowest point in the world to the new highest point), and a circle with a diameter of approximately 256 blocks in X and Z (you'd have to see the exact schematics for details).
@@htgnef wow ok thx so much
For anyone interested, in an XP farm that would translate 2.75M (2.63M for nether portal version) XP per hour.
That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian XP farms respectively.
Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maxed out furnace based XP farm (fastest possible in the game).
Thank you.
Fun fact: you can afk farm this if you have the player placing furnace and blow them up with duped tnt. Since the 100% drop rate makes you loose no furnaces its a viable afk xp farm concept
What is the maxed out furnace xp farm??
@@louisbryant2302 It's literally in the comment that you responded to ask that question
LOL, I was literally typing out a comment about "wait for a hardcore YT series to build this" and then Mango drops the shade himself. Love it
Cant wait to see a "Biggest Possible Iron Farm" video on the near future :D
Also good video 👍
i knew this was going to happen as soon as you said “and if you want to make the biggest farm” during the random tick range video lmaooo
You know that one meme of palpatine in Star Wars going “Infinite power!” All I think of is that but “INFINITE CACTUS!!!!”
*UNLIMITED POWER!!!
Wait I mean
UNLIMITED CACTUS!!!!
A) can’t wait for the series to continue
B) What happens if you use the end portal blocks where the netherbrick fence is, won’t that save you the layers that have the end portal and therefor be more compact :)
That's a really good idea, I don't see why that wouldn't work
Single block end portal would be too much work in vanilla. Creating end portal destroying frame portal would be night mare specially in this huge number
yes it would improve the rates a bit but also make it much more tidious to built.
At this point you could have end portals as the blocks breaking the cactus so the items pop into them immediately
@@PanNic97 actually does that work? if so the farm can be like 8x more efficient given better server performance
Nice to see more hardcore survival content on this channel
Tysm for the green dye farm man. Was making a giant green base and needed a lot of green dye
ok now time to get a fuel farm to smelt all of this... Idea for the second episode!
@@androov2797 I agree and approve.
Just as I’ve been gearing up to build what I perceive in my head to be a massive underground cactus farm of eight 8x8 layer modules, Mango posts this. 😂
This is really goofy yet practical and achievable which is really fun to see.
I wonder he complished those project which anyone even think of doing. Hats off to illmango. ❤💕
insane... really interesting to see what each farm's maximum rate is when only lag-optimisation is the limiting factor, and what lag-optimisations you come up with
Beyond Scicraft Scale
Now that's a scary thought, and you brought it to life in creative.
Series title: "Can we Scale it?"
I'd binge watch that series.
The true application for Cactus Storage - storing millions of cacti!
"Here's the vanilla version" ... proceeds to show a water stream in the nether
Me: *wanting to build a cactus farm
Scicraft players: Prepare for trouble,
Hypixel sweats: and make it double!
Holy Scheiße illmango you never cease to impress haha!
Somewhere right now Wattles is doing a little dance and saying all that tedium for his April fools video was worth it. 😂
I'm loving the start of this series. Reminds me of Dataless making huge farms ages ago
This is a cactus moment
"I've tried to make this as survival friendly as possible" LOL this is insane, only the Sci members would actually be crazy enough to build this in survival
I _adore_ the idea of this series and would love to see more.
Finally i can get that god particle to make a reasonably fast xp farm
This farm won't make you get that particle faster. It would still take every furnace almost 7 hours
@@cedriccappelle Just run a bunch of furnaces in parallel. You have to wait a bit to "buffer" but then you can have a god particle every 3.25 seconds on average
@@enderyu Yep, a bunch 😅
@@cedriccappelle would require about ~8000 furnaces. Didn't sound that absurd until i realized the biggest super smelter I could find has 'only' 6000 of them
@@enderyu I guess if one builds a cactus farm of this size, then supersmelters would be just a little extra
When you can hear the smile of Ilmango you know its a big farm. x)
(Also a cactus farm that requires to build another cactus farm to get 1 million cactus just to build it is ... Too big for conventional uses. x)
If you're on an economy server where you can spam /sell all though... You're rich! )
Ah! Good! I needed some green dye to make some green leather horse armor! Thanks for this easy and quick to build farm it really helped!
I’d prefer a series where you make some of the most compact farms and fit them all close enough that you can ask in a spot and run like 100 small farms at once
This is one hell of an advert for Lithium
i guess you can now build a bamboo farm to fuel an absolutely massive super smelter.
the fact that the lithium mod makes such a difference is crazy.
how much cactus do you want
Ilmango: Yes
I like that you’re okay with using zillions of blocks to build this farm but initially shy away from nether brick fences bc it’s less practical xD
Now we need the mega furnace array and fuel farm and we’d have the ultimate XP farm
can't wait for someone to do the math
@@androov2797 1 XP orb per cactus and if you use coal you need 1/8 of the cactus in coal
@@androov2797 1 xp per cactus meaning 2750k (2630k for nether portal version) xp per hour. That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian xp fam respectively. Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maximum furnace based xp farm.
@@enderyu wdym maximum furnace based xp farm?
@@androov2797 1 god particle every game tick or so ( cubicmeter made a video upon it )
“that’s… definitely quite some effort”
Almost 800K so deserved. Been here since like 60K.
this is a good cactus source for early game xp i recommend it
Probably the best idea for this farm is to have it somewhere in the world where you cant reach easyly. And then just have an entrace on the nether os you can just enable it whenever you need
A giant pumpkin farm should be next. I would love to see that.
I would have loved to see what kind of furnace array it'd take to process all that
"ilmango's Ultimate Farms"
When he is saying largest it's definitive. Nuts but love it. ❤
This is definitely a series I want to see more of, keep up the great work
"Big as it Gets" series
Ah a farm that’s finally worth me building, save me a lot of time.
9:43 XD buissy adding chat report feature
Factions players about to make some stonks, I can tell
I do like how that you'll need so much cactus to build it that you'd require a decent cactus farm just for that
if anything it would make an awesome xp farm
Funny, a decade later and we're back to doing the old dataless822 style "because we can" mega-farms. Albeit, with a lot more tools, mechanics and scale.
There's a German youtuber who would be drooling over this farm.
Finally a new series Can't wait for more Ilmango Please keep the series for a long time :).
Bone meal, exp and bone meal for days!
Nice to see mumbos too small series come back
This series promises to be fascinating, once again! Great idea!
Factions players in anguish
haha this is awesome
i would like a mega farm series like this
The largest sky scraper is about twice the height of the tallest possible Minecraft building.
I hope u used Beppos secret method to break the bedrock very quickly.
only works from below tho
This locks like a speedrun category
If you are using end portals, could you just get rid of the water collection system entirely and fill each layer with end portals? You could maybe even take it a step further and make each layer 1 block shorter by alternating which blocks you place the cactus on.
This is still planned to be built on survival. End portals are super annoying to build
JellySquid mods are an absolute game changer for Minecraft
This Ilmango guy look like he has potential for the SciCraft server
this is a great idea for a series!
Perfect, now I can dye all my leather armor
Please continue making this series. I'm a bedrock player but, I find this fascinating
And now someone has to build this in survival
please do make this series, it's completely impractical and insane, but it will be so entertaining
Next let's see the largest coco bean farm. Might as well get that pain in the butt out of the way.
Can you put the link the donwload your performance improving mod?
The german accent is soooooo brutal hahaha love it
This series has my vote!
Will you make a block by block tutorial?
may be try the end rod design for faster item collection？
With 1.15 million cactus required to build it, you'll need a cactus farm for your cactus farm
concept: largest cactus farm that SMELTS all of what it makes for the XP
oh no he is becoming something like that
The "overkill" series?
Or "how big"-can you make a cactus farm etc
Would love to see more of this series :D
Very nice farm design! Could you please leave a world download or a schematic in the description because i plan on accually building this im my survival world. Great video as always.
Can't wait for the world's largest brown mushroom farm
Some people think the proof of god and intelligent design is because a banana fits into the palm of a human hand. Now imagine spawning into a world and coming across this monstrosity..
Can’t wait to make this on a random Minecraft server
Huge farm suggestion: lava farm.
As fun as it would be on its own, I couldn't find a industrially big lava farm.
That would also be perfect to fuel your obsidian farm! :D (the one where you pick up lava, then the lava is converted to obsidian, and then you break it)
And if we already have a big lava farm, might as well use some withers to break the obsidian. Someone already made the breaking chamber, but they can't design a 5,800 lava/h lava farm xD
Search for "ilmango lava farm" and "ilmango obsidian farm using lava cauldrons" both exist
@@PanNic97 i know that they both do. I didnt know that you could expand the lava farm design though. Will try making the obsidian farm's lava farm bigger once i can play mc again then lol.
the sly chat reporting comment haha love it ilmango
13:10 I don't think you can make an "larger" farm of the game, because the height limit in older version was lower. So you yould have 16x16 Chunks, but "only" 256 Blocks height. Now you have 210? Chunks or something but almost 400 Blocks height.
Casual water stream in the Nether
Please do more videos like this it was great!
Now the question is: why would you need this much Cactus? 🤣
Crazy impressive work
Can't wait for more episodes!
man i sure love that intro
OK now build a super smelter that can smelt all this cactus.
biggest cobblestone farm if you despise your computer
Mango activated my google smart home device!
I can't believe that it would be possible to build without bots... But if you do I will definitly watch the explanation and timelapse :O