Snap On Dealer Puts ICON Head To Head VS Snap On Ratchet
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- We show our Snap On Dealer the new ICON ratchet and he puts it head to head against the Snap On: we look inside then put them through a tremendous force ! Check it out !! #snapon #icon #koontrucking
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I gained alot of respect for Hamilton, most people dog any competition just because its competition. He gave an honest opinion and didnt just trash it cause it was harbor freight.
I agree .. Hamilton is a very professional salesman. . I like that he doesn’t push/ shove tools down your throat. I would love to go on his truck and meet him. And yes I know I would buy many tools...
Snap on guys are the best No Doibt
There are fair people everywhere
He didn't dog on it because it won hands down.
@@jasonpollard7157 I have tried several times to give SnapOn a chance. But every dealer I have encountered were rude, arrogant, and trash talked every other brand. That is if I could even manage to get a rep to stop at our place. The lest one I contacted I told him there were several of us at the shop interested in buying tools and the rep said since we were not already regular customers that we had to come to his home after his rout was over to shop. No deal.
I don't think the Icon will replace Snap-On, but I've been saying for while now HF is replacing the niche market that was Sears tool department.
This is 100% spot on. I’m an auto hobbyist and do all the maintenance work on cars. When my local Sears closed I was left with only the auto parts store tools, which are decent but not a great variety. Then I found Harbor Freight and have not been disappointed either their Pittsburgh line. In particular their sockets, impacts, and ratchets. Perfect for use in my garage.
Yep, but at a better price than even Sears
Think harbor freight is finally seeing the positives in quality tools hope they keep it up
Agreed
I mean their boxes even the harborfreight ones are really strong i had a snap on box the slides broke whike the harborfreight still good
As an employee i can tell you for a fact they definitely will!
@@scaryhorrormoviee I was looking at the Yukon box at HF last weekend. The quality seemed pretty good for a $350 price tag. I was impressed.
HarborFreight has always had tools that had quality, they were just ok a Craftsman, Husky, Kobalt, Stanley level though.
Now they are producing SnapOn & Matco tool level.
Don’t get me wrong HarborFreight also has always had allot of crap tools in their roster too. Though then again so has Craftsman, Husky, Kobalt, & Stanley
“I’ll yank on it”
“Were talking about ratchets”
🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha
I'm gettin' off the truck!
haha they got me 😂i was laughing right along with them
A lot of die hard Snap On addicts HATE comparing Harbor Freight tools but ICON is impressive , so is TEKTON for the prices
At 1/5th of the price or so, as a weekend warrior, I will take Icon all day long.
@@dcast777 you said the magic words, weekend warrior.. lol
Probably the ones who have never been in a Harbor Freight. They claim it because it's not about the tools, they probably rarely turn a wrench and it's just a status symbol to have a fancy box sitting in the shop.
I use Tekton tools five days a week at my job. I am slowly switching over to all Tekton. They are great tools. Couple that with the fact that we have the worst Snap On dealer in the world the choice was easy to make for me.
@@vtseller I know a few techs that work in the field professionally and most of them use tekton or HF on a daily basis
I’m impressed, that Hamilton is impressed! That is definitely saying something for Harbor Freight.
Snap on ego syndrome
He’s a straight up guy
Hope next week Hamilton isn't rolling up in a Cornwall tool truck next week after this.lol.nice job to everyone.great tool demo!
Well they did spend a lot of time trying to compare to Snap on saying it’s better but they try very hard to look like snap on weird right lol
Will this be a good starting torque wrench just for tightening lug nuts on wheels ? I work at a tire shop want to buy my own tourque wrench
Good video, I have a little experience I'd like to share that shocked me, over the winter I lost most of my tools in a fire, 30+ years of tools in fact, I couldn't even begin to tell you how many 3/8 ratchets I had, tons of the junk tear drop craftsman, a couple snap on, no icon, but I did have a couple of Pittsburgh, here's where my story gets really interesting, a week later I had to work on one of my vehicles, I luckily had a lot of my expensive milwaukee power tools in my truck, along with a small metric and standard 3/8 impact socket rails that I keep in my milwaukee bag, well, I found myself in a spot that I needed a ratchet as no impacts would fit and my cordless ratchet did get burned up, so I'm out there in the snow, prying my "spare ratchet" drawer open to try and find one I can get to work for what was ultimately 1 bolt I couldn't get to, EVERYTHING aside from one ratchet had some type of aluminum and/or plastic parts that had melted and that one ratchet was a plastic/rubber handled Pittsburgh, minus the plastic on the handle itself of course, all ratchets were in the same drawer, and suffered the same conditions of heat, harbor freight for the win on that one, although I was able to rebuild one of the snap on's, and used it yesterday, but on that cold winter day the Ole Pittsburgh put a smile on my face on what was and still is a otherwise really depressing situation, at nobody's fault but my own, and although I'm still to this day going through and trying to salvage what I can that, and it's doubtful that I'll be able to rebuild even a small portion of what I had accumulated throughout the years, that Pittsburgh will be a wall hanger for years to come
I have yet to buy the icon ratchet, it feels smooth and looks good. However, I have not had a ratchet as good as the snap on one. Smooth, quiet, & just unrivaled.
It isn’t a snap On for sure. It isn’t meant to be. In my eyes it is just another brand. They made a very nice ratchet for the price point they are in. There’s clearly differences inside the ratchet as you seen in the video. The guts in the 3/8” are about the size of the snap On 1/4” but it is a nice ratchet for $40
Yeah but is the Snap-On really that much better for how much more it costs? A Snap-On 3/8s swivel head costs more than twice as much as the ICON ratchet. I can have a decent night at a strip bar for the difference in cost. In life you need to prioritize. I guess hung over I would appreciate a quieter ratchet though. All you really need to do is open them up and put a dab of grease in them to make them quieter. Something better than wheel bearing grease does work better. The Super Lube synthetic they sell at Harbor Freight is nice.
@@1pcfred it’s worth it if you make a living working on vehicles or trucks or equipment
@@dieseldawg7132 I watch Pakistani Truck and they don't use Snap-On tools. I'm not entirely sure if they're actually making what westerners would consider a living though. Safety sandals engaged!
@@1pcfred you don’t have to have snap on but it’s convenient and makes work a lot easier ….
this snap on dealer is a good sport and good on him his will to put his products to the test against a new line from competition. I definately respect his sportmanship and his honesty and with a good attitude.
I would buy anything from him if I had the $ for the snap on tools I have a few snap on items I’m mobile and work at a friends salvage yard I cherish most of the snap on items he has gifted me over the years and a few Big Mac wrenches
You better watch out posting this much truth on TH-cam, the tool trolls don't like it when you you use science and actual testing.
It is what it is. There’s no doubt I love Snap On Tools, but ICON has its place for sure at least this ratchet proves the ratchets do !
LOL The Den of Tools, you are so right!!!
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Great video Clay. Hamilton is a stand up guy.
For all the people who complain about HF tools being made in China or Taiwan and they only want to support American companies. Harbor Freight is an American company and, with more than 1000 stores, they employ a lot of Americans. I’ll wager these same people buy and use a lot of other foreign made products without ever giving it a second thought. I simply don’t understand why so many people hate on them.
Harbor Freight fills a void, making it possible for guys who might otherwise not be able to afford a reasonable number of tools to get a decent quality box and some tools without breaking the bank. Since they’ve begun improving the quality of their tools, that makes them even more viable for the diy guys and for young guys just entering any trade that requires them to own tools.
Just today, I needed a rivnut tool and I knew HF had one I could use. I left work, hopped in my truck and 15 minutes and $20 later I was on my way back to the shop to finish a job that I otherwise wouldn’t have been able to do and make it look 1st class.
BTW, I see a lot of people in the HF store wearing tool truck logo shirts and jackets. I’ve never heard a HF employee rag on them for it. Everybody needs to calm down and worry about their own stuff instead of directing so much hatred toward an American company for trying to help other Americans save some money.
After using all of the Icon 3/8 ratchets, I can safely say they're on par with my Snap on's.
That's not to say they're a serious threat to Snap on (yet) because they don't offer the gargantuan inventory that Snap on does.
@@fredflagstone181 well said
Dude you are 100% correct. American owned company that employees hard working Americans.
Not only that, but some of the American tool makers have been switching over to foreign made tools but are trying to hide it.
Damn near everything is made overseas these days. It's not by accident.
I was a Matco dealer in the nineties and it was hard. I couldn't imagine doing it today.
What’s a good affordable brand today in your opinion?
Carlisle, capris, icon, duralast are some of my mains before i switched to matco and snap-on.
Excellent head-to-head testing Clay. Hats off to Hamilton for entertaining the throwdown, he looked truly interested while Thomas acted truly annoying. We're hoping Icon comes out with a locking flex head ratchet next...now we want to check out those ratcheting wrenches!
The ratchet wrenches are really nice. If I hadn’t bought the new Snap On already I would have gotten those
@@KoonTrucking I'm not about to ditch my tool truck ratchets just yet but the Icon will be a good backup. I still have a 40 year old Proto that sees some duty. On the Ford diesel today I had to use my extra long 3/8" Snap On to break the idler bolt loose...it beats using a pipe!
This is what I like about this channel...honesty. since the first time I watched. And, honestly entertaining. Thanks man, keep it up. More how to vids? Not so much harbor freight like the other guys? Even my wife loves your toolbox tour where you walk in the shop and turn on everything and thank God. It's you, do that, we love it.
You should do a ride a long with Hamilton and do a day in the life of a tool
Dealer.
That was a blast getting Hamilton to do that on the truck. Hopefully he can warranty that meter if it’s acting up.
I don't think the meter was acting up it was sensible to up and down movement as que pull and release the tension! It should have feature to lock highest meter reading after a three second delay reset!
Much respect for Hamilton and you guys also. This is why your channel is one of my favorites. HF can't match the friendship you have with your tool man. Definitely impressed with Icon just got one for my travel box.
Yes we have a great and honest dealer. This video just proved it !
Only thing this showed me is that snap on meter is junk
Haha, it isn't meant for that much Force
I picked up a set of metric ratcheting wrenches..I half to say I'm pretty impressed and I like the fact that they have no skips in their sets
Half to say? Lol
The fact Hamilton carries Milwaukee batteries goes to show how much of a stand up guy he is.
KronicKatz
Not really. Every snap on tool truck I’ve ever been on carries all the Milwaukee tools.
@@howcroft22 My snap-on guy has everything lol.
I'm impressed Hamilton didn't just run it down and gave it a shot. You could see the real difference in gears.
There’s a big difference between them inside. He is a straight up guy. He is honest and did a fair test
@@KoonTrucking they do look pretty but I personally will stick with my snap on and matco ratchets I know icon are a lot cheaper but I know I can count on my snap on and matco not letting me down.
@Emerald lx everything can break especially if used incorrectly. It boils down to personal preference I've used a ton of different brands of cheap ratchets it seems like they all end up jumping teeth or locking up. It took me along time to commit to spending the snap on and matco kind of money on a ratchets. So just my opinion.
Friday the very best day of the week cause it’s Harbor Freight Friday lol
The fact that its guaranteed, and you can go to the store and swap them, makes me want to buy them. Just got 2 1/4" ratchets and a 3/8 stubby. Worth the $35
I’ve had a few Snap-on ratchets go bad, with relatively low use. I had an air ratchet from MAC go bad. I recently purchased a few ICON tools, to try them.
I’ve used snap on ratchets for years and after watching your videos on the new ICON ratchet I honestly do not see a difference in the quality between the ICON ratchet and a snap on ratchet. It looks like a snap on, it has fine tooth, it held up to over 250 ft lbs of torque and it has a life time warranty. I’m impressed and feel that harbor freight is making some extremely smart decisions. A good tech who might not be able to afford snap ons high prices may be able to get similar quality tool at a lower cost.
The mechanism in the Snap-On is nicer. I don't know if it is 5 times nicer though.
For most people its easier to get a replacement at the hazard frought then wait for the snap on truck to come and replace. Ive got a whole box of snappy stuff but ive got a few rollers full of harbor freight stuff and its held up so why pay 4x more
@Tuan Nguyen I've spent some good money on tools. Never had any bad money really. When I buy tools other than Snap-On I tend to get a lot more value for my money too. Although I did manage to pick up a pair of Snap-On ratchets earlier this year for a dollar a piece. I ran out of that sale. hehe
Hamilton's honesty is refreshing, hope he doesn't get in trouble with snap-on for it.
After watching Project Farm, I’ve concluded MOST (not all) ratchets can handle more than most people can subject them to without using a breaker bar. The real difference becomes how much slop they have relative to their tooth count and how much drag.
Wow ask and ye shall receive! I didn't actually think I would see Hamilton review it! That's awesome! Thanks Clay!
😂😂😂😂Dying!!!!! Man said “I’ll yank on it” Snap on dealer was quick and said “ we are talking about ratchets” 💀
I gotta admit, that ICON ratchet is pretty impressive. For 40 bucks I don’t think you can go wrong picking one up. For those of us on a budget it’s looks to be a better option over the other lower priced ratchets. Love the videos!
Another great option is the duralast ratchets
I picked up gear wrench ratchets, swivel head, 120 teeth, coated handle. Love them.
Clay, you know hardly EVER comment on one of your videos, but THIS has to be the best ratchet comparison video EVER. I can't believe even the snap-on dealer gave respect to the Icon, and that just shows what a great guy Hamilton is!! This has got to be the most honest tool review on TH-cam; a guy who has over 30 snap-on ratchets, notices a $40 ratchet competes with them, AND STILL shows his subscribers!!! That's what I call caring about your subscribers, and not out there pushing tools on them, GREAT JOB CLAY!!
Thank you very much. I truly appreciate that and the support you give all of TH-cam. Your videos have saved people thousands upon thousands of dollars by providing them a step by step video to fix their own cars. Keep on making them because I know you don’t hear it enough but they really do help people. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Many thanks to Thomas on the improvised 'cheater bar' with an extension a deep well socket. I'm going to try that next time I need more leverage, I never thought of that. Mr. Clay a new ida for your channel: "Thomas' front yard tool tips.
Donald Hollums i just learned that tip 2 weeks ago from a Road Tech in my shop . I was mind blown 🤯 lol started using right after 😂
Kevin Garcia, believe you me, that’s something I’m going to do as well. Hopefully soon we’ll see: “Thomas’ Thursday Front Yard Tool Tips” on Koon Trucking! That still leaves Wednesday for a tool related film.
Adding length on anything you turn significantly adds more torque. Including wrenches, pliars, right angle screwdriver drivers, etc
I bought the icon tools from harbor freight, and for the money you can't beat it.
I swear I look forward every Friday to this. Thanks klay for the awesome content you make.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I truly appreciate it.
I support American manufacturing and American workers. I buy Snap-on.
@Lord RaidenI live in the town where Snap-on ratchets, wrenches, chisels, and punches are built. I've also been to the factory where their sockets, screwdrivers are made. Some stuff is out sourced but their hand tools are made in the USA. After 6 months probation as a new hire you are topped out in pay around $32 per hour.
That's a good snap-on guy for saying that. Great video.
Hamilton is a good tool man! He did a good test! At the end don't mess with bill!
He is an honest guy. In my opinion that makes him a good salesman. He has talked me into buying tools that were needed and talked me out of tools that I didn’t need and showed me other alternatives to get the job done. People can say anything they want to about that man but one thing they can’t say is he’s crooked, or not honest. He is a straight up guy.
Would have been nice to put a flex head snap-on ratchet up against the icon flex head. I do have to say though I have bought a lot of snap-on tools over some time and I personally think that icon is the better choice based of their price, lifetime warranty, their likeness in strength compared to snap-on, and also how theirs always some sort of deal going on the icon stuff.
I talked to my Mac dealer today about the icon ratchet and he damn near busted a vein in his head I think I'ma take a trip to harbor freight and get me one especially if Hamilton is impressed ty for the honest opinions fellers.
I'm sure ICON is more than adequate for any competent mechanic. There's usually more to a job than just putting a tool on a fastener and pulling for all you're worth. Doing that is likely to cause more harm than good. Because fasteners often break sooner than tools do.
I respect these snap on dealers for dealing with all these tools everyday
Icon is gaining traction. More importantly, they're gaining fast on the heavy hitters.
If it can take that even once it is worth $40. That’s impressive I have to say.
I forgot to say, I am a Snap On ratchet guy all day. Nota Snap On hater. Lol
Me too that’s why I was so impressed with ICON I had my doubts, big doubts. We gonna keep on using it and see how long it can go
Koon Trucking yeah I have seen thePittsburgh ratchets and am not impressed. That Icon looks really nice. I am sure I still wouldn’t trade it for my Snap On, but maybe in addition to them.
@@scottsmrcka2769 maybe for the dirty jobs u don't wanna bring snappy to but still want a decent tool to use and not cry if it gets dinged or scratched. Think I'll grab one for my tool bag doing commercial construction as welder/plumber not used daily but needed and usually takes a beating so this may fit that bill
I love my ICON tools, nothing broke yet
we got us a snatcher, hold on, LOL
That's funny to me because my old man does that when we're working and it pisses me off.
I just picked an icon ratchet up to see what the hype was all about. Wish Icon had been around sooner
Did u try snap on before?
Seeing the bag of dog treats on Jovin's truck reminds me of how much I miss seeing your dog in these videos.
He like to go see the girls and I don’t want him to get run over. Plus it has been so hot in the shop lately it’s crazy.
your comparing a flex head to a fixed head and its holding up just as good
Here is a memo from Redemption Garage that Icon (aka HF) is recalling there 3/8 flex head 10 " and 14 ' in the comfort grip and regular as they have a tendency to lock up do to a lack of lubrication. He opened his and added grease and has not had any problems but others have
I'm a new diesel tech, by watching your vids i'm learning and enjoying the diesel tech life. Keep up the good work guys!
Thomas, why do you haft to be a pain in the ratchet.??? Thanks for sharing the demo 👍
My toolbox is Harbor Freight. I may catch some grief for it but it's paid for and making me money. The one tool I have had break on me.... Lifetime guarantee and it's really easy to exchange for another. When I make a bit more I'll spend a bit more as things break. But things being what they are it's going to be a while.
One thing I have learned, Snap On tools will put hot dogs on the table and Icon will put steak on there. Anyone want to argue with that, I am available for that anytime! Thirty plus years of certified and running an auto repair shop.
I love snap on ratchets but it seems like I’m getting my 3/8 long ratchets rebuilt every 6 months. For years my go to was the 3/8 flex head but after getting used to it I like my round swivel head much better 90% of the time. Just feels more sturdy
Nah , Ill support American made product all day and im mexican🤓
Hahahah QUIT SNATCHING SHIT THOMAS hahah Thank you for telling him Clay .
Old school mechanic here, Yeah, that Snap-on is crap. That icon held more plus it hardly bent, like the Snap-on just bent, gotta say Snap-on getting kinda crappy in the products.
I've been waiting for this video specifically since last week. Was excited to see how the icon would hold up. Also got to watch my first episode while wearing a brand new diesel medic hoodie. Great channel Clay! Cheers from Connecticut!
That is awesome !! Email me the pic and I will post it on Instagram koontrucking101@gmail.com
Why is the first step taken is “CHEATER BAAR!” I mean I like Hamilton didn’t say “go bigger,” but its crazy he put the paces to both and showed the results. The gear wrench gear type with snap on pawl design yielded one good ratchet.
Snap on should be worried if they make a FLL80 or SLL80 equivelant
Awesome video Clay. Glad to see a side by side comparison.
Icon ratchets sockets and wrenches are definitely worth the money and I believe will hold up to professional daily use great video and to impress your Snapon dealer even better keep those cameras rolling brotha
If you use your tools in a professional manner I think any tool should work today. If you're a gum head all bets are off.
His trucks gonna say Snicon on it next week.
Those SnapOn guys are good sports. Icon will challenge SnapOn and no mistake!
I think icon is a great alternative to the tool truck. Nothing wrong with buying cheaper tools if they do the job and have the same longevity. Now that being said there are certain tools you just have to buy name brand for. I’d feel much safer with a snap on ball joint press than the harbor freight one
God bless harbor just as good for 40% the price. Only way under paid tech can get by
I'd bet a lot of tool drivers don't use what they sell, internet has somewhat made the s o guy obsolete. It's a shame, but good for the tool buyer at the same timr
If they respect the icon they'll love the tekton
I like Tekton but you’d gotta be careful with that brand. Very large variations in quality from tool type to tool type. I’ve had some stuff I like from them and some shit that’s the same as cheap no name garbage. Tekton also has quite a bit of tools that are shared with other cheap companies, likely since they haven’t scaled large enough yet.
@@JsGarage any specific tools you have had issues with from teky ton?
I have their torq wrench and 1/2" breaker bar and haven't had issues so heads up in duds would be welcome
Man one day I swear I’m gonna get every one of the Pearl Blue Snap On ratchets. Beautiful.
Did the brakes on my ram 2500 today. Used a Bauer 20v 1/2" impact gun for the lug nuts with Pittsburg impact sockets, and a Pittsburg breaker bar with icon sockets on the calipers. Never regretted not taking a loan out for tools.
The Snap On guy seemed like an honest guy. Very Fair Comparison. I think there is a market for Icon to fill with high quality imported tools. Snap On and the other tool brands will continue to be the leaders in high quality tools. It definitely sends a message that HF can make good equipment at a competitive price. Thanks for the video. Great commentary by everyone involved.
But Icon has infringed on copy right laws and is being sued
Thanks for the videos, been watching for a year. Thank you for the icon test. Those are more in my price range.
TODAY IS FRYYY-DEEYY!!!!
Wow. Better than I thought it would do. Not bad at all.
As someone who works on my cars when they need it, it’s a very nice tool ratchet is a great value for us. I still want to get a snap on eventually though
Snap On makes the best tools on Earth in my opinion. There are some good lower cost options. I can’t fault anyone for buying what they can afford and upgrading to Snap On later, in fact that’s what I did.
As a DIYer replacing a control arm, I misplaced my 40 year old 1/2 inch Craftsman ratchet so I bought a HF Pittsburgh ratchet to finish the job. I really did not like it. Luckily I later found my Craftsman stuck in the end of my 2 foot cheater pipe. Would love to have Snap-on but can't justify the cost.
@@KoonTrucking Snap-On arguably makes the best ratchets, sockets and wrenches. For other tools you can do better from other manufacturers. Though All Snap-On tools are more than adequate. The same can be said of almost everything being made today. It's almost like the whole world finally figured out how to forge steel, or something?
Right now the most valuable thing on that truck is the half used bottle of hand sanitizer 😆
Yeah I still love my Snap-on ratchets. It’s more than just strength, it’s ergonomics, balance and precision that I look for in drive tools. I am eyeballing the ICON wrench sets because they look really nice and very well made.
I have snap-on and a lot of other ratchets of assorted brands and tools and snap on and icon, gearwrench, Carlyle ect. Are a preference to most people. Yes Snap-On is the Cadillac of tools that the professionals turns too. But most can’t afford them. And yes they are made in America. I get it. I support America as well but also have to support my family. So I hope people get that. I would love to have a epic box loaded with Snap-On tools but that’s just a dream I can’t financially justify having that. But we are entering or have been entering a new era of the tool world. Yes China tools absolutely suck ass . Taiwanese tools are far more superior to China crap. Having the right tool for the job and being a reliable tool is the key. So maybe icon is a new player in the game for the not so fortunate tech. Time will tell
Very well said ! I agree 100%
Imagine if the power tools were made in Taiwan not China
Snapon guy couldn’t say anything bad about the Icon cause it beat his Snapon HANDS DOWN I’m actually on my way to Harbor to pick me up some icons 🤣
I broke some craftsman doing a lot less and those were the ones that were made in the US before they went to China.
i wish there was harbour freight north of the border we really don't have a store like that where. we have stores with some but not the vast supply and options and it sucks. not the best but for most people at home in the garage, we would love harbour freight.
Nowhere in the world has the market that the USA does. It's almost like we have the world's biggest economy, or something?
Some then about southern folks that just say come on in y’all welcome make yourself at home.
Iconic results 😂😂😂😂 awesome video
honest dealer.. prob easier to service or replace a snap-on .. good budget tool icon can be.
a icon tool truck with a good operator would put snap-on over-inflated pricing in check.
snap-on has went to far with increasing the prices beyond reasonable market value.
Snap On is pricey but I will admit they are good tools.
What you have to realize is that Snap-On has institutional customers who have essentially unlimited budgets and price does not matter. They simply want the best they can possibly get. Think the military industrial complex. Which includes the military itself. They use all Snap-On. They have a three quarters of a trillion dollars a year budget. After buying all the bombs, bullets and beans they need that still leaves a lot left over to buy tools with.
@@KoonTrucking No one makes a better ratchet or wrench than Snap-On does. The question that remains is who needs tools that good? For me the answer is I can get by with less.
Paul Frederick true story....I know my general mechanics toolbox that I was issued in the army was all snapon. In the supply system the gov pays over $10k for that tool kit. You could easily stock a kit with the same tools for under $1500 from any normal tool brand.
@@michaelardoin4260 the US Army is a tradition based institution. They used Snap-On in year one so they're going to keep using what won them the war. If it ain't broke give it its regularly scheduled maintenance. And the Army doesn't haggle over prices. They pay MSRP. Which may partly explain why Snap-On's prices are what they are. As long as they can say it with a straight face the US Army will shell out for it. But at the same time Snap-On can't have two different pricing structures. One for the Army and one for everyone else with everyone else getting a better price. That would be wrong?
Impressive footage for sure. Rumor has it that HF hired a top engineer or designer from Snap On Anybody know if thats true? Excellent video!
It is true. Previous engineer from snap-on helped design these tools
I’m a huge fan of both snap on and Icon.
Great video Clay! Must say the Icon ratchet does look impressive for the money. If you are impressed, I am impressed as you didnt get the stuff for free and became a bear-like looking salesman for Icon. You had nothing to loose. Keep up the good work Clay! 🤘
No sir I purchased it with my own money, no discount codes, no rebates, no check coming in the mail, nothing ! Haha thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
40$ and with a lifetime warranty
I'm a hardcore snap on guy! It's no telling what I've spent over the years!! Lol probably could have bought a house! Lol but I will say I now have icon tools they really impressed me! And warranty is great ! Switch them out if something break's no questions! In my experience! But still loyal to snap on
Well HF did spend a lot of time trying to compare to Snap on saying snap on sucks but they try very hard to look like snap on weird right lol
Oh there’s no doubt they had Snap On in sight when they were building it. Even down to the red and black plastic cases. Guess imitation is the best form of flattery. There’s no doubt that Snap On is the King, always has been since the 30’s and always will be. But for $40 Harbor Freight made a good ratchet.
Can’t believe that flex held up holy shit
Honestly, snap on is quite over priced. I sold off most of my snap on stuff just to buy icon and still had money left over and all my tools are still working and most of it has lifetime warranty.
if that sucker would have let go, Hamilton would have been sorry when he knuckles met the tool box lol
Yea it's obvious Thomas hasn't busted his knuckles really hard like that yet lol. He's was ready to put his body weight on it 😂
Silly ass would have learned the hard way
Like we all did!
Good test. Icon is knocking at the door of snap on.
The icon ratchet internals look very similar to the Gearwrench 84 tooth internals and Tekton 90 tooth internals. I do not get what all the Icon tool hype is about when there are Made in Taiwan tools out there that have already been there and done that at this price point, torture testing included.
Couldn't agree more. Glad harbor freight has decent tools finally but I expect them to be the cheapest there. I can get the channelock wrenches cheaper than icon pry made in same factory and they match my channelock pliers and screwdrivers that are USA made
Couldn't agree more plus how many tool factory's can there be in Taiwan in the first place plus I have ratchets I bought back 80s and 90s I still use if wear put gust get a rebuild kit I bought 3 new ratchets a locking flex 1/2 ratchet a long handle 1/4 ratchet A long 18 3/8 flexhead all snap on I know they last the test of time I comfortable using them and helping keeping USA jobs
@@larryborkstrom3580 Harbor Freight has 20,000 employees and Snap-On only has 12,600. So buying from Harbor Freight you're helping more US jobs. Facts!
@@1pcfred yeah but they don't pay that well Harbor Freights pretty cheap boss Snap-on pays their employees a lot better and that don't include the franchisees that just includes people directly employed in manufacturing
@@larryborkstrom3580 Snap-On is overpaid and that's why their tools are too expensive!
Definitely invalid test, you have a flexible head vs a fixed head. Snap-On is always a ripoff.
TheMadSciencetist I agree that snap-on is over rated. Most people I know that use tools for a living say they have bad luck with snap-on not warranting their products. Could be the region I’m in though. But icon has been tested several time compared to snap on. It’s proven to be on par or better and way cheaper
every single torture test i've seen for higher end HF tools compared to just about every brand... HF equals or comes out on top.
time for the tool truck brands to step up their game, or lose the premium price tag.
kenabi that’s what I’ve also seen on reviews
Had a helluva night, even admit I broke my first snap on tool tonight (pin in a swivel impact socket) on a seized ISX starter bolt. This video gave me a laugh and made me think. I want to hate the icon stuff but it’s hard to do with ya’ll being impressed by it.
It’s not Snap On for sure the video showed the differences in the internals but, for $40 it is a good ratchet
Im currently using Kobalt ratchets, but im starting to get fed up with them. The damn forward/reverse selector is so easy to flip and it causes it to bind up during use. When I get another Kobalt set, I will likely be replacing the ratchets with Icon ratchets.
I'm from Australia and we don't have icon here. Just looking at the icon head you could brand it snap on and not know any difference.