@@berksterb8475 My general feel of the players is that they are all well-adjusted, per say. However, their social/speaking skills are definitely below average. I think Bwipo gets a lot of props for this, because he can public speak. I do, however, think that it is mainly because most of the other pros cannot articulate full sentences without multiple "um", "like", or other words like that. Not hating, but that's how I feel it is.
@@imthebestmayne122 Public speaking is hard, it's like number two in most feared things by people so I can't really blame anyone for using filler words speaking, even people who aren't socially awkward have trouble when you shove a camera in their face. It's possible they have below average social skills but it's hard to judge in a public forum like this, what you don't see is all the camera people and staff staring at them.
I think it was because he agreed with Bwipo. He knew the problem wasn't the pick, he just did not perform. I like that he is humble enough to not make excuses and recognize his mistakes. It's now up to him to improve.
Love him or hate him, I think Bwipo is good for the LCS. We need more vocal players like him with a personality, makes things outside of game way more interesting.
I love that he also gave good solid reasons for his ideas. Like he actually has clearly thought about his ideas and can explain them well even at a pro level I am assuming.
@@Zhuny_FR That's hilarious since he got SHIT on while he was on TL. Running your mouth doesn't equate to being good. Although granted he;d be good enough for the trash LEC.
I don't even feel it's full villian arc....he just has confidence in what he says but its not full arrogance, he welcomes dicussion and almost challenges people to prove him wrong
Bwipo either says what the older players are afraid to, or shows how much more he knows than everyone else. Dude was a gift on the broadcast last year, and has been even better this year.
Zven support ceiling just wasn't high enough for international. The guy wanted to be an ADC, and there were moments in game where that showed; like flashing skillshots and having Beserker be hit by them. His ceiling was top in LCS, but there's a reason other supports spent zero time studying him.
I wouldn't say dwongrade but theyre very different players and c9 hasnt adjusted. Zven was very good in lane, and he prefered ranged supports which helped lane even more, so berserker was often coming into mid game with kills/plates and taking over. Vulcan doesn't have that, but hes so much better at playing engage and starting fights later. They need to figure out how to play with his style still
@@hikergeoff9476 And you think Vulcan makes a difference internationally? Bro what are you even saying? I'm not even a C9 fan but I wouldn't be delusional like you to think that Vulcan does anything better in C9 than Zven. After his days on EG he's been flaming every academy support player coming into LCS when he's a hardstuck engage kind of player. And you think a OTP engage support player can make a difference at Worlds representing our region? lol. C9 doesn't even know their identity up to this point.
@@claysmith8840you're right Zven only played range supports but at least *HE KNOWS HOW TO WIN WITH HIS PLAYSTYLE* unlike Vulcan *???* a hardstuck engage support kind of player only relies to his team to win his lane for him? What I like about Zven is he may not be an engage support player but he knows how to make changes for his team with his playstyle. What's Vulcan doing besides jacking off in lane waiting for Blaber to carry him? You're right. If C9 doesn't figure out how to play with Vulcan's playstyle or anyone really they're going to be like Titanic soon enough. I'm not even a fan of C9 but when I heard Jojopyun was replacing Emenes I was happy for them but replacing Zven for Vulcan? Bro literally lost a series against Eyla.
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro 1:05 - LCS week 4 and volatility in the standings 5:03 - Is 100 Thieves good? 6:53 - Bwipo on Sniper and understanding what makes a champion good 9:43 - APA getting to rank 1 12:30 - Insanity's weird picks reputation 15:54 - What is wrong with Cloud9? 17:59 - Bwipo on Berserker and Zven 20:22 - What is wrong with Cloud9? (continued) 25:22 - Who is the best team in LCS in scrims? 30:06 - Which team is going to shift the most in the final 5 games? 36:38 - What is wrong with NRG? 39:50 - LCS 2-week break, good or bad? 42:20 - What is wrong with NRG? (continued) 48:57 - Final thoughts on their teams
this is the best piece of content LCS has ever produced. this series is amazing being able to hear from players unfiltered and honest is so refreshing and its nice to hear from some players that dont normally get as much time to speak.
I like Bwipo bc when he is at his peak, he pushes his team (and therefore other teams) to not be content. Overall the LCS has looked so good and fun this year, but Bwipo is also right that we still have so much improvement still to do. I am really excited to see the improvement all the teams make with the break
These episodes of Pros (first one as well) are so great for getting to know the players and feeling more connected to the LCS in general. Please keep doing these.
Loved the extended Bwipo interview!! 😂 (My mans, we love to hear you talk, but you gotta let your friends get a word in sometimes...) Another great episode.👏 Thanks LCS!!!!
Whip is what LS would be if he was a pro player; I fucking love it! He takes his game serious as if he was an NBA player and we need more players like him. @LCS put him on more 🎉
Need more of this 🙏 love the banter and love the discussions you get from 3 players just sitting down and talking. All the hosts have been excellent, as well!
I think licorice was a strong top, I wonder what bwipo would have said of him? Crazy how bwipo comes out swinging but you can see the passion for the game in his way of speaking.
I know its asking alot to have bwipo on cast always since i want to have him have more time for his own personal care but gosh dang it, i love hearing him talk and do feel he's only here to improve the scene and show he cares
Another great episode. I really hope you guys continue putting out content during this 2 week break. I think it is really important that the LCS isnt completely quiet for the duration.
Based Bwipo firing shots. You can tell he is enjoying himself and its absolutely hilarious xD Jokes aside - Western LoL needs players like Bwipo... Not just players that can back up what they say, but are happy to say whatever needs to be said. One it creates interest. Two its ultimately only good for the development of players if they learn to speak honestly with each other and tell each other what they are doing wrong... instead of hiding behind a wall of "They might hurt my feelings by being mean".
Please keep these coming all season. They're so good for getting to know the players. And these long form discussions get so much more out of them than short post-game interviews.
I'm so glad bwipo is back. Love him or hate in this podcast, you can't deny that it is refreshing to hear pros (even if they are just from the "lcs") really just speak their mind and really give you their views. I don't think he is being malicious at all, it's literally how he sees things and even calls himself out a bit
"this is my World Final's, because i got to play in a scrim" Reflecting on how he felt as a Day 1 2018 rookie and a guy who's been in World's Finals. XD
Bwipo is awesome and is one on the few players that really understands how to play the game. He takes the words right out of my mouth sometimes when he explains why NA struggles. Im glad he is here to make the league better
I absolutely love this show. I think this group was just lopsided. I think bwipo would have been better paired with others, like maybe summit, coreJJ, blaber , or someone who has accomplished some form of success. Essentually someone who is higher on tier list in terms of accolades. Bwipo naturally took over this episode because the young guys really dont have to stand on accomplishment wise compared to bwipo. I think it was just a respect thing. Just felt like this episode was having two different tiers of questions and answers. One set for bwipo and one set for the young guys.
Bwipo sort of talks in circles a few times, but it is nice to have someone in LCS who is pointed and honest about the league. Problem is, I think it's just too little too late. NA league, culture, etc, is what it is and and I'm just happy we still get to watch this many years into it.
it was so nice of Jatt, APA, and Insanity to come on Bwipo's podcast
This made me laugh😂
Lol
And I love the Bwipo episode 10/10
Bwipo scaled into demon form
He's really the Max Verstappen of LoL. If he is in a room talking with people, it's his podcast xD
bro how insanity was able to just take all that on the chin in the first 5 mins is astounding. rly no ego on that guy, respect
Only part way in, but so far insanity comes off as a well-adjusted dude.
@@berksterb8475 My general feel of the players is that they are all well-adjusted, per say. However, their social/speaking skills are definitely below average. I think Bwipo gets a lot of props for this, because he can public speak. I do, however, think that it is mainly because most of the other pros cannot articulate full sentences without multiple "um", "like", or other words like that. Not hating, but that's how I feel it is.
@@imthebestmayne122 Public speaking is hard, it's like number two in most feared things by people so I can't really blame anyone for using filler words speaking, even people who aren't socially awkward have trouble when you shove a camera in their face. It's possible they have below average social skills but it's hard to judge in a public forum like this, what you don't see is all the camera people and staff staring at them.
I think it was because he agreed with Bwipo. He knew the problem wasn't the pick, he just did not perform. I like that he is humble enough to not make excuses and recognize his mistakes. It's now up to him to improve.
Love him or hate him, I think Bwipo is good for the LCS. We need more vocal players like him with a personality, makes things outside of game way more interesting.
His competitiveness elevates the players. APA and Insanity definitely got a boost out of this segment
Yeah I hate him
I think I would prefer licorice take his spot
@emceemikey I like him being around, want players to hate him and love him since like the OP said, it elevates the people around him. Use that fire 🔥
I love that he also gave good solid reasons for his ideas. Like he actually has clearly thought about his ideas and can explain them well even at a pro level I am assuming.
@@Zhuny_FR That's hilarious since he got SHIT on while he was on TL. Running your mouth doesn't equate to being good. Although granted he;d be good enough for the trash LEC.
bwipo came in firing shots from minute one I love it, actively going for his full villain arc
His wide villain arc.
I LOVE BWIPO
I don't even feel it's full villian arc....he just has confidence in what he says but its not full arrogance, he welcomes dicussion and almost challenges people to prove him wrong
It's really just Bwipo. I respect how he rolls.
i feel like he just snorts a couple lines before these interviews. he casted a game last year and it was kind of blatant how amped he was.
Bwipo either says what the older players are afraid to, or shows how much more he knows than everyone else. Dude was a gift on the broadcast last year, and has been even better this year.
Man Insanity it's so honest "I played like shit" props my guy. 💥
Take credit away from yourself so that you don't lift your opponent up.
9:41 The jumpcut, I just know it was done cuz bwipo kep talking about Olaf for 10 minutes straight
literally what I thought lol
Lmaoo
there was actually a previous jumpcut as well
I saw that jumpcut, and immediately looked for this take in the comments. Haha Bwipo just keeps going
Yeah 3:27 too. Can't be stopped.
Bwipo simultaneously delighting and pissing me off and I was not ready for this emotional ride on my Monday morning commute.
Finally someone like Bwipo recognizes that Zven is the part of C9's dominant run. I always wonder why Zven had to go. Vulcan was a downgrade
Zven support ceiling just wasn't high enough for international. The guy wanted to be an ADC, and there were moments in game where that showed; like flashing skillshots and having Beserker be hit by them. His ceiling was top in LCS, but there's a reason other supports spent zero time studying him.
I wouldn't say dwongrade but theyre very different players and c9 hasnt adjusted. Zven was very good in lane, and he prefered ranged supports which helped lane even more, so berserker was often coming into mid game with kills/plates and taking over. Vulcan doesn't have that, but hes so much better at playing engage and starting fights later. They need to figure out how to play with his style still
@@hikergeoff9476 And you think Vulcan makes a difference internationally? Bro what are you even saying? I'm not even a C9 fan but I wouldn't be delusional like you to think that Vulcan does anything better in C9 than Zven. After his days on EG he's been flaming every academy support player coming into LCS when he's a hardstuck engage kind of player. And you think a OTP engage support player can make a difference at Worlds representing our region? lol. C9 doesn't even know their identity up to this point.
@@claysmith8840you're right Zven only played range supports but at least *HE KNOWS HOW TO WIN WITH HIS PLAYSTYLE* unlike Vulcan *???* a hardstuck engage support kind of player only relies to his team to win his lane for him? What I like about Zven is he may not be an engage support player but he knows how to make changes for his team with his playstyle. What's Vulcan doing besides jacking off in lane waiting for Blaber to carry him?
You're right. If C9 doesn't figure out how to play with Vulcan's playstyle or anyone really they're going to be like Titanic soon enough. I'm not even a fan of C9 but when I heard Jojopyun was replacing Emenes I was happy for them but replacing Zven for Vulcan? Bro literally lost a series against Eyla.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
1:05 - LCS week 4 and volatility in the standings
5:03 - Is 100 Thieves good?
6:53 - Bwipo on Sniper and understanding what makes a champion good
9:43 - APA getting to rank 1
12:30 - Insanity's weird picks reputation
15:54 - What is wrong with Cloud9?
17:59 - Bwipo on Berserker and Zven
20:22 - What is wrong with Cloud9? (continued)
25:22 - Who is the best team in LCS in scrims?
30:06 - Which team is going to shift the most in the final 5 games?
36:38 - What is wrong with NRG?
39:50 - LCS 2-week break, good or bad?
42:20 - What is wrong with NRG? (continued)
48:57 - Final thoughts on their teams
You had the perfect opportunity to write “bwipo talks 1:05 - 52:09”
bwipo talks like my parents giving me a lecture on responsibility and ending with how horses were treated in the bible
This got a cackle out of me
I could listen to Bwipo just talk about League all day. He's so knowledgeable about the game.
Bwipo is a menace lol
Honestly bro he is 😂😂
My man was campaigning for his spot next split tho lol
He’s insufferable lol
I loved every minute lol I think every team needs a Bwipo
Fly quest have Bwipo and Jensen. These Europeans with a mic are perfect
This is the best LCS segment, loving the content and seeing Pros talk in a bit more relaxed environment
"I was using the wrong skin" lol insanity is so funny
Honestly I can relate, I may not be a good player but I perform much on certain skin on main champ than others
this is the best piece of content LCS has ever produced. this series is amazing being able to hear from players unfiltered and honest is so refreshing and its nice to hear from some players that dont normally get as much time to speak.
I like Bwipo bc when he is at his peak, he pushes his team (and therefore other teams) to not be content. Overall the LCS has looked so good and fun this year, but Bwipo is also right that we still have so much improvement still to do. I am really excited to see the improvement all the teams make with the break
Everyone needs a friend like Bwipo. Blunt point blank honesty with no ill intent ❤
23:18 Insanity actually has an insanely good memory reciting one fight from his game
i would love to see bwipo and insanity talk more about unique champs and builds that they like
These episodes of Pros (first one as well) are so great for getting to know the players and feeling more connected to the LCS in general. Please keep doing these.
I love how passionate Bwipo is.
I agree
Jatt "Is Flyquest the best team"
APA "the standing says so"
Jatt "Do you think so?"
APA "Doesnt' matter what I think"
APA with the side steps
Another banger episode. I could genuinely watch 3 hours of this.
Bwipo is ruthless holy shit
Bwipo like : “I’m not here to make friends, I’m here to make money”
BM Punk 😂
Loved the extended Bwipo interview!! 😂 (My mans, we love to hear you talk, but you gotta let your friends get a word in sometimes...) Another great episode.👏 Thanks LCS!!!!
Pure ADHD vibes
bwipo is such a smart player. the way he thinks about league is so unique and makes him so good.
It is Bwipo interviewing Jatt instead XDD. Nice content
They need a timer for pros like bwipo
Bwipo has so much game knowledge. If he is not a coach after retirement I feel like it’s a waste
Whip is what LS would be if he was a pro player; I fucking love it! He takes his game serious as if he was an NBA player and we need more players like him. @LCS put him on more 🎉
Bwipo dissected some teams pretty well in this podcast, hope APA and Insanity will use this info to their benefit.
Need more of this 🙏 love the banter and love the discussions you get from 3 players just sitting down and talking. All the hosts have been excellent, as well!
I think licorice was a strong top, I wonder what bwipo would have said of him? Crazy how bwipo comes out swinging but you can see the passion for the game in his way of speaking.
Honestly, I love this podcast show. It’s so fun hearing the pros perspectives
Bwipo saying it how it is. Respect
I know its asking alot to have bwipo on cast always since i want to have him have more time for his own personal care but gosh dang it, i love hearing him talk and do feel he's only here to improve the scene and show he cares
Okay but I actually loved listening to Bwipo go off lol I’m excited for Fly.
Good that bwipo has lots to share, but I wish others shared a little more.
Would love a little graphic of the drafts whenever they take about a specific game
would be sick but this is done live right after broadcast so idk if editors/producers have the time lol
Bwipo just destoryed insanity’s entire blood line in the first 5 mins
Lmfaoo not really. It aint that deep. He specifically mentioned top lane match up. He never insinuated that he would win in a mid lane match up.
love the insight that bwipo has of the game. kinda took over the whole episode lol. feel like he has a lot left to say so bring him on again soon!
Insanity seems like such a smart player. You can tell he respects Bwipo, as another really smart player. Great episode guys!
I fucking love Bwipo's takes.
Best episode so far... really enjoy Bwipo on here
Another great episode. I really hope you guys continue putting out content during this 2 week break. I think it is really important that the LCS isnt completely quiet for the duration.
Bwipo really wouldn't shut up if no one stops him, like he would just keep going and going. He has to learn to let others talk too. That's crazy.
Based Bwipo firing shots. You can tell he is enjoying himself and its absolutely hilarious xD
Jokes aside - Western LoL needs players like Bwipo... Not just players that can back up what they say, but are happy to say whatever needs to be said. One it creates interest. Two its ultimately only good for the development of players if they learn to speak honestly with each other and tell each other what they are doing wrong... instead of hiding behind a wall of "They might hurt my feelings by being mean".
bwipo is the main event lol. i love him talking shit so much
Bwipo needs to be on every episode. He’s knowledgable and funny. IDK what else you would be looking for here.
Bwipo is so intelligent about the game. I could just sit here and listen to him speak about the game for hours. So much to learn from him.
Always enjoy watching Zven and Bwipo educate everyone else 😂
I could listen to bwipo talk all day about league
Very interesting episode. Bwipo brings a lot of energy and passion to the convo
Bwipo will be the first coach to win worlds for NA. Dude is brilliant, love hearing him talk about the game
Bwipo was amazing on this episode. Bring him back!
Please keep these coming all season. They're so good for getting to know the players. And these long form discussions get so much more out of them than short post-game interviews.
Thank God bwipo is back
I love this podcast so much. I don't even think I heard insanity and apa talk before and both of them are great
Bwipo complete giga chad MVP of the season 🥳🤯🐻
Bwipo is what LCS needs as personality
He'll be an analyst for either them or
lec when he retires. He's a natural
Top lane coach for Fnatic, calling it now!@@WigsgamingYT
Bwipo could be his own roundtable discussion
Shots fired (point blank)
i could listen to bwipo talk about the game forever, love hearing his perspective
Really enjoy listening to bwipo
Absolutely loving these vids omg man
Banger, the Twisted Fate thing was really eye opening
Love Bwipo! Dude is so knowledgeable and these youngins need to take the information he gives as gold.
love this format!
Can this just be a weekly segment of Bwipo 😂
Bwipo has definitely been having long conversations with LS.
its such an insane difference between bwipos knowledge and everyone elses here :D
nice interview, hope to see more
I'm so glad bwipo is back. Love him or hate in this podcast, you can't deny that it is refreshing to hear pros (even if they are just from the "lcs") really just speak their mind and really give you their views.
I don't think he is being malicious at all, it's literally how he sees things and even calls himself out a bit
Bwipo has almost TOO much passion for the game that he's obnoxious here x.x really smart stuff, but jesus man pull it back some!
Bwipo shooting from the hip was brilliant, shooting down the BS
Bwipo is just so honest and genuine
he the type of guy to flame you, but say it so nicely that somehow you apologize
He’s like a violent league playing teddy bear
32:24
Possibly the greatest sport commentary ever uttered. Bwipo is certainly......special.
APA spoke highly of BWIPO. I can see why now ❤
When did he speak of him?
"this is my World Final's, because i got to play in a scrim"
Reflecting on how he felt as a Day 1 2018 rookie and a guy who's been in World's Finals. XD
I find bwibo so interesting to listen to
I am now a FLY fan cause of Bwipo.
BREATHE OF FRESH AIR
o man I am always looking forward to LCS content. please in this break make more content.
Bwipo is the GOAT. No questions asked.
More of this please.
i need bwipos confidence in my life
good LORD Bwipo was taking heads left and right 😭
Bwipo basically telling him he chocked, I love it tho, because bwipo probably has a great point, you shouldn’t ever hate lose it
Bwipo is awesome and is one on the few players that really understands how to play the game. He takes the words right out of my mouth sometimes when he explains why NA struggles. Im glad he is here to make the league better
how can u not have this on in the off-weeks, jesus christ decisions are so tough to make
I absolutely love this show. I think this group was just lopsided. I think bwipo would have been better paired with others, like maybe summit, coreJJ, blaber , or someone who has accomplished some form of success. Essentually someone who is higher on tier list in terms of accolades. Bwipo naturally took over this episode because the young guys really dont have to stand on accomplishment wise compared to bwipo. I think it was just a respect thing. Just felt like this episode was having two different tiers of questions and answers. One set for bwipo and one set for the young guys.
Listening to them all I have learned and upgraded my skills in this game. Ty
i love bwipo but JEEZ MAN LET INSANITY LIVE. A MINUTE IN AND HE WONT LET INSANITY BREATHE
all i'm seeing is bwipo having a deeper understanding of the game
I gotta start thinking about the game in number of mugs. Cya in lcs 2025
Bwipo sort of talks in circles a few times, but it is nice to have someone in LCS who is pointed and honest about the league. Problem is, I think it's just too little too late. NA league, culture, etc, is what it is and and I'm just happy we still get to watch this many years into it.
by far the best new content of any region this year.
Bwipo getting extra wide
i love bwipo, he just made it his show and made it better
Insanity being honest is pretty cool, but bwipo man this guy came with names and insults loaded