Hi Binh, Great information. My Polaris Pump quit working. thought it was the capacitor. Changed capacitor but no luck. Tested the power to pump... no power. Opened the Panel to check the Relay. The relay in the Polaris position (Aux#2) was not operating. So I thought the relay needed to be replaced. Pentair panel has 3 free relays not in use. I transferred the polaris pump power wires to the unused relay and connected its AUX wire to the Polaris AUX connection position (AUX#2). It still did not power up the Pump. (there is high voltage in the power wires-they are hot). From this troubleshooting, I now determined it is the AUX #2 connection. I moved the AUX#2 connector to AUX Position #5 (it is an open AUX slot and not in use). I then pressed the AUX#5 button and the Polaris pump powered up. working as expected...Yeah...Saved me $$$$. So would you say the ULN2803APG chip is bad. I want to follow your example and pull the chip. Thanks if you have time to respond.
What a nice and concise video, thank you! I wonder how many people were charged $1000 for a new board no all it was it a $2 chip. Hey have you done anything about your surge protector? Thanks again
I own a pool business. We replace with a new board to ensure the customer doesn't have additional problems. I have one to replace later this week. I pay about $400 for the part and charge about $600 total for this service. Some companies rape thier customers so $1000 isn't far off.
Thank you for incredible very helpful video. I’m not Electrical Engineer but I’m handy enough. I do understand everything. You said I have a lack of communication between the pad inside the house that’s communicate with the InTouch board and I cannot turn the pumps for the infinity edge from inside with the pad. Would that suggest that I just need to change these chips they are in that could help. Thank you so much if you have a minute to respond.
Does your panel communicate with pumps if you’re standing at the outside panel? This video is for the transistors that activates the output relays. If you’re having RS485 communication issues, I have another video on that chip. If your inside pad is hardwired, check the continuity in case wire is cut.
thank you for the informative video. I have the Pentair Intellichem system, and need to swap out the circuit board due to the lcd screen being nearly impossible to read. Do you have a video that documents this process? Thanks
I don't know if you are still looking at this. I have your system and the problem is the light breaker when I turn it off it turns the whole panel off so I guess thats how they wired it up. But when I turn the breaker on it just clicks sometime slow and sometime real fast to the relay. I'm not able to run anything as of now. I have to turn on the pump manually on and off. What do you think. Thanks so much for your time and hope your still monitering this.
Hi Binh-Tuner, what are your thoughts if I replace normal breaker with GFCI instead of RS485 surge protector? Maybe you have thought about this. Let me know what do you think?
Breaker is for normal power and GFCi is for fault and safety protection not surge. Surge protection is to ground out spikes in voltage from storms and other events. For RS485, the surge protection is for the power and signal that may fry the chips.
Problem with valve similar to what you are discussing. Hi Binh, I love your straight forward and easy to follow videos. My Pentair Eztch 4p started acting up yesterday with something similar. IOt sounds like the relay associated with J4 which controls a CVA-24T actuator is just clicking on and off. Have you had that issue or can you offer any advice on diagnosing that problem?
It might be that transistor. Try swapping to see if the problem moves to another I/O. If so, replace the transistor chip. Else the relay might have issues.
Binh, I traced the issue and would you believe it was the indoor control panel. The switch for the water feature has gone funky and it was switching on and off. Which in turn caused the actuator to go crazy and burn out the HFD23 relay. Anyway, I just wanted to share it with you should you ever have the same issue.
I think my transformer is bad because my cca isn't receiving power. i found one on Amazon for over $100, but was wondering if there may be a more inexpensive one.
Check the leads off the transformer, there are multiple leads that have different voltages. If you look at the block, they bare transformer without the pentair case is like half the price.
@TunerwithKids not sure if ther is a particular size transformer i need. I thought about getting one from an old microwave from a thrift store to use. I didn't see any voltage coming from the transformer wires, but i will check again just to verify. The main breakers do have voltage. Thank you for your help.
Unfortunately when these boards have a com blow it usually means more complements will fail later. You will most likely be fixing more issues down the line. Better to replace it. Trust me. It's a temp fix
Hi Binh, Great information. My Polaris Pump quit working. thought it was the capacitor. Changed capacitor but no luck. Tested the power to pump... no power. Opened the Panel to check the Relay. The relay in the Polaris position (Aux#2) was not operating. So I thought the relay needed to be replaced. Pentair panel has 3 free relays not in use. I transferred the polaris pump power wires to the unused relay and connected its AUX wire to the Polaris AUX connection position (AUX#2). It still did not power up the Pump. (there is high voltage in the power wires-they are hot). From this troubleshooting, I now determined it is the AUX #2 connection. I moved the AUX#2 connector to AUX Position #5 (it is an open AUX slot and not in use). I then pressed the AUX#5 button and the Polaris pump powered up. working as expected...Yeah...Saved me $$$$. So would you say the ULN2803APG chip is bad. I want to follow your example and pull the chip. Thanks if you have time to respond.
Appreciate this. I had a surge and saw smoke. After seeing this I was able to narrow it to an issue at the chip. Saved me a TON of money.
Glad it was of use. Most of these are common easy issues but repair tech and pool companies will replace everything for $1k plus.
This fixed the problem I was having. Thanks for the excellent video!!
Thanks, I replaced my chips and everything worked fine. You saved me a ton of money. Have you created the video addressing surge protection?
I have a video ok fixing my RS485 chip and inline surge. Also have a video on whole house electrical surge protector.
What a nice and concise video, thank you! I wonder how many people were charged $1000 for a new board no all it was it a $2 chip. Hey have you done anything about your surge protector? Thanks again
I own a pool business. We replace with a new board to ensure the customer doesn't have additional problems. I have one to replace later this week. I pay about $400 for the part and charge about $600 total for this service. Some companies rape thier customers so $1000 isn't far off.
Thank you for incredible very helpful video. I’m not Electrical Engineer but I’m handy enough. I do understand everything. You said I have a lack of communication between the pad inside the house that’s communicate with the InTouch board and I cannot turn the pumps for the infinity edge from inside with the pad. Would that suggest that I just need to change these chips they are in that could help. Thank you so much if you have a minute to respond.
Does your panel communicate with pumps if you’re standing at the outside panel? This video is for the transistors that activates the output relays. If you’re having RS485 communication issues, I have another video on that chip. If your inside pad is hardwired, check the continuity in case wire is cut.
thank you for the informative video. I have the Pentair Intellichem system, and need to swap out the circuit board due to the lcd screen being nearly impossible to read. Do you have a video that documents this process? Thanks
You may be able to find a replacement LED from Digikey or Mouser if you have the P/N off the old one.
I don't know if you are still looking at this. I have your system and the problem is the light breaker when I turn it off it turns the whole panel off so I guess thats how they wired it up. But when I turn the breaker on it just clicks sometime slow and sometime real fast to the relay. I'm not able to run anything as of now. I have to turn on the pump manually on and off. What do you think. Thanks so much for your time and hope your still monitering this.
Solder on the extra resistor to get your other four relays working. All the programming is there.
didn't think of that. typical corporate greed, lets handicap and charge them more for the same thing.
Hi Binh-Tuner, what are your thoughts if I replace normal breaker with GFCI instead of RS485 surge protector? Maybe you have thought about this. Let me know what do you think?
Breaker is for normal power and GFCi is for fault and safety protection not surge. Surge protection is to ground out spikes in voltage from storms and other events. For RS485, the surge protection is for the power and signal that may fry the chips.
Problem with valve similar to what you are discussing. Hi Binh, I love your straight forward and easy to follow videos. My Pentair Eztch 4p started acting up yesterday with something similar. IOt sounds like the relay associated with J4 which controls a CVA-24T actuator is just clicking on and off. Have you had that issue or can you offer any advice on diagnosing that problem?
It might be that transistor. Try swapping to see if the problem moves to another I/O. If so, replace the transistor chip. Else the relay might have issues.
@@TunerwithKids Thank you for getting back with me, it is very much appreciated. When you say transistor, do you mean the LN 2803?
@@georgedavis2725 I think so, it’s the own I swapped in the video. It controls all the inputs and output to the line voltage relays.
Binh, I traced the issue and would you believe it was the indoor control panel. The switch for the water feature has gone funky and it was switching on and off. Which in turn caused the actuator to go crazy and burn out the HFD23 relay. Anyway, I just wanted to share it with you should you ever have the same issue.
I think my transformer is bad because my cca isn't receiving power. i found one on Amazon for over $100, but was wondering if there may be a more inexpensive one.
Check the leads off the transformer, there are multiple leads that have different voltages. If you look at the block, they bare transformer without the pentair case is like half the price.
@TunerwithKids not sure if ther is a particular size transformer i need. I thought about getting one from an old microwave from a thrift store to use. I didn't see any voltage coming from the transformer wires, but i will check again just to verify. The main breakers do have voltage. Thank you for your help.
swapping the high voltage transformer didnt work.@@TunerwithKids
Unfortunately when these boards have a com blow it usually means more complements will fail later. You will most likely be fixing more issues down the line. Better to replace it. Trust me. It's a temp fix
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