I think Rosetta Stone with practice sessions combined with duolingo is an excellent way to accelerate through the basics and end up with a comfortabile intermediate area-- I finished both - speak French every day in an ok manner - also watch easy French videos and check out journal français facile --- practice with natives
@@Keldeo-gx You should be skipping all output activities anyway. All writing and speaking lessons are basically useless. If you want to practice writing, do clozemaster. If you want to practice speaking, find someone to speak to.
Rosetta Stone French is good for building up vocabulary as it's very easy to associate the pictures with the words. You're right that no one single language program can make a learner fluent. It's a combination of using various programs that are available in the market plus spending a lot of time listening to music and watching TH-cam videos, TV programs & movies in the target language. But the most important part is to actually practice speaking the language with native speakers i.e. via iTalki or by traveling to the country where the language is spoken.
Rosetta Stone has completely changed their pricing structure. It's far from perfect, but now you can have unlimited access to all languages for one price for lifetime usage. I think it's still a good supplement for those learning languages.
Now I managed to get it for _reasonable_ price, I actually like it. I would not use it as the only resource, and I would not hope it will help me get all the way to C2, but I find it (at least for German so far) quite good at getting through the A1-A2 in a way that makes German get its own place in my brain, instead of it being a translation of another language. Also I think the key aspect to language learning is an active participation. You really need to want to learn the language, to recall the word, to remember it. If you visit the class or use app and just passively progress through it thinking about your shopping list or work problems, you will not get very far. Same goes for school when you worry about the test score. If you like Rosetta Stone's exercises, you can learn a lot and quickly. If you hate them, you will progress slowly, do not learn much and quit it hating it.
Thank you for your review and thank yo for being up front about hot having taken Rosetta Stone yourself. I find you ramble a bit in this video. Could it be because you do not have experience with the product. I have personally used Rosetta Stone and agree with many of your points. Moments ago I watched your Pimsleur review and found it concise and to the point. I especially appreciate how you split up the pros and cons making it easy to follow. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make my life easier. =) =) =)
I used my cousins copy of Rosetta Stone Spanish level 1-5 and as a native Spanish speaker it is pretty decent. A matter of fluency I feel is what you'd see in a high school graduate, strong but not really able to talk in higher technical terms.
Personally I have had great success with Rosetta Stone. I also have attended language camps that indicate the RS users have decent accents. You can get all five levels in most languages heavily discounted. It is a bargain when purchased at a discount. Like any tool you should supplement - and with Rosetta Stone I supplement with grammar books, duolingo and real humans. Nothing takes the place of sitting with a real human and conversing. The key is to use your resources and do not quit part way through. Many people do not have the fortitude to get through the first two levels.
I think Rosetta is good to be used as a complementary tool in conjunction with other methods. Personally, I have Rosetta and find mixing it with duolingo and a traditional class is perfect for my beginner introduction to Spanish. Rosetta is very visual and duolingo is more analytical, and therefore each is building different pathways in your brain thus leading to greater language internalization. I think a traditional class (most expensive option) is also pretty important to understand the intricacies of grammar, to actually converse in the language, and receive feedback on progress/weaknesses.
Depoimento justo, sem elogiar nem negar as vantagens que o programa têm. Os produtos de Rosetta Stona não são entre os mais baratos, assim claro que a gente pode julgar, aconselhar e compartilhar as próprias experiências. E, impressionante é ao lado dum sucesso da empresa o fato que o produto funciona muito bem, até anos após a minha compra, RS ainda me permite obter atualizações. Faz algum tempo já quando tentei aprimorar o mandarim. Bom, e no início já se revelou que o jeito Rosetta Stone é muito pitoresco, não tem explicação nenhuma na língua do aprendiz. Isso se vende como vantagem. Mas o fato é que assim se pode vender o mesmo curso sem grandes adaptações em vários países. Além disso, todo o conteúdo é relacionado às fotos, que são em todos os cursos bem parecidas. Então, um esforço diminuído para a editoria. Se for vantajoso para aprendizes? No início, que foca mais em apanhar vocabulário, não tem problema. Nas imagens, as informações pitorescas só, dá pra entender. A coisa fica mais difícil quando chega o ensinamento da gramática indispensável: passado-presentes-futuro, comparações, frases condicionais, algo assim mal se pode entender somente pelas fotos e ideogramas, não tem jeito. Assim, sem pesquisar noutras fontes, a gente não pode tirar dúvidas. E isso eu não considero nem nem efetivo nem eficaz. Confesso que esperei um pouco mais dum programa que se chama “curso completo (cinco níveis)” e por qual se paga entre 300 e 400 Euros / Dólares. Mais um assunto é que nas línguas sem alfabeto latino não há nada que ensina por exemplo os carácteres chineses, nem Pinyin, nem a intonação. E mesmo que tem a gravação de voz no programa, o sentindo dela é limitado sem instrução, a própria avaliação da fala não deu certo por muitas vezes. Assim a gente advinha o que poderia acertar... Eu durante todos os exercícios, é sempre o mesmo modo “Multiple Choice”: Nas tarefas, tem que escolher a resposta que fica entre três até seis possíveis frases ou imagens dadas. No caso de mandarim, não vi grande sentido em escrever respostas em Pinyin, até sem sinais diacríticos. Outra coisa foram as repetições, de vez em quando, após um certo tempo ou avanço no programa, tem que repetir algo das lições antes. O sentido disso é mesmo questionável. Quando a gente já mexe nas frases mais complexas, será que fizesse sentido regressar num exercício o que só se trata de “oí” e “como você está?”. No fim, algo bom: Uma vez registado como cliente de Rosetta Stone , a partir deste momento tem frequentemente promoções nas quais tem descontos consideráveis para outros produtos e subscrições. Mas não aproveitei disso, pois descobri que não é tanto o meu jeito predileto.
I've used it for Portuguese. I'd say that for someone who has never learned a foreign language before (and no, Spanish in -US- high school does not count ;-) ) it is okay. However, if you are already familiar with the process of learning a foreign language, it is way too slow. Also, once you have passed puberty, there simply is no easy way to learn a foreign language without a lot of memorizing, analysis and yes, repetition. Take irregular verbs in English - you just have to learn them by heart. You will need to have a table of them somewhere and just repeat until you know it. Also, as stated in the video, learning a language is NEVER achieved with just one tool. Of course it is easiest if you simply live in a foreign country and are forced to.
I think Rosetta Stone is extremely overpriced, at least for me. If I got like 80% discount on lifetime package I would go for it, otherwise it is just too expensive and to me it is better to use multiple different cheap (or even free) apps, than overpriced Rosetta. I like that they do not use translations (though I think they go bit too far with it, I think translations are handy at the beginning), being completely immersed in language from day one is tough but effective. However you still need to learn the language, no one can teach you, the apps can help you with your learning and I think that RS may help you get started but you better use some other tools as well.
Its not an objective review, I learned Turkish and Swedish... but your selling a method as well, its more marketing on your side rather than being objective.
All the levels of Rosetta Stone is at most 200 hours worth of content, closer to 100. Can you become fluent with 200 hours worth of content? Obviously not. It's still worth doing. Honestly, if they expanded the course and added more interactive elements (actual movies/animations instead of pictures), they could probably make a course that did make you fluent. Problem is, it would be a huge course and few people even bother finishing what they have now. The core philosophy is comprehensible input. That is the core of what they are trying to do with the course. And it works. It's just not enough of it, and it's cluttered with things the marketing department probably told them they needed, like the speaking and writing lessons.
I have not tested Busuu. I cannot see Rosetta Stone and LingQ competing at all. They can complement each other quite well though. LingQ is great for building advanced vocabulary imho, the mini-stories are still rather limited to learn the language. And LingQ is all about translating, while Rosetta Stone is all about immersion and audio/visual learning. It is also an okay tool for speaking exercises. It is not perfect, but it is better than most of the competition short of talking to actual humans.
@@NetAndyCz Rosetta stone really isn't immersive. If the experience was immersive you would see people running as people are talking about them, but Rosetta stone only shows you a static picture that you have to interpret as running. You don't get immersive input with rosetta what they aim for is comprehensible input in exclusively the target language. If you want want an immersive experience play video games, listen music, or go to an area which uses your target language.
@@joshuahess7197 Well, I guess the level of immersion might depend on your imagination. It is hard to get beginner content without translations and Rosetta stone does that. Anyway pictures are more immersive to me than no pictures of LingQ;)
@@NetAndyCz It is the story you are reading that is immersive. Lingq assists you to actually immerse yourself in authentic foreign language literature. I dont know what could be more immersive.
@@ramonek9109 The fact I do not understand a word as a beginner kind of prevents the immersion. So the pictures help me. Or translations but those are *not* immersive.
Why do people bring up becoming fluent? There’s so much that comes before fluency. And no language school or app will make someone fluent. Only the student efforts and time itself can help someone even approach fluency. Please, stop talking about fluency. Geez...
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I think Rosetta Stone with practice sessions combined with duolingo is an excellent way to accelerate through the basics and end up with a comfortabile intermediate area-- I finished both - speak French every day in an ok manner - also watch easy French videos and check out journal français facile --- practice with natives
both are great together
how can i write "l'omme" on rosetta stone ? I see now no " ' " in there so i have to skip every sentences that include " ' " button.
@@Keldeo-gx You should be skipping all output activities anyway. All writing and speaking lessons are basically useless. If you want to practice writing, do clozemaster. If you want to practice speaking, find someone to speak to.
Rosetta Stone French is good for building up vocabulary as it's very easy to associate the pictures with the words.
You're right that no one single language program can make a learner fluent. It's a combination of using various programs that are available in the market plus spending a lot of time listening to music and watching TH-cam videos, TV programs & movies in the target language. But the most important part is to actually practice speaking the language with native speakers i.e. via iTalki or by traveling to the country where the language is spoken.
Rosetta Stone has completely changed their pricing structure. It's far from perfect, but now you can have unlimited access to all languages for one price for lifetime usage. I think it's still a good supplement for those learning languages.
Ari Torres I only had to pay $200 for lifetime on a really good sale. Going to start learning Italian and French soon.
and a 3 month payment option
Its $179 now lifetime, apparently ALL languages included but I have heard some ppl say its actually only one language
Now I managed to get it for _reasonable_ price, I actually like it. I would not use it as the only resource, and I would not hope it will help me get all the way to C2, but I find it (at least for German so far) quite good at getting through the A1-A2 in a way that makes German get its own place in my brain, instead of it being a translation of another language.
Also I think the key aspect to language learning is an active participation. You really need to want to learn the language, to recall the word, to remember it. If you visit the class or use app and just passively progress through it thinking about your shopping list or work problems, you will not get very far. Same goes for school when you worry about the test score.
If you like Rosetta Stone's exercises, you can learn a lot and quickly. If you hate them, you will progress slowly, do not learn much and quit it hating it.
I'm considering getting it because its method of teaching language is exactly what I'm looking for, and sadly there aren't many like it out there.
Thank you for your review and thank yo for being up front about hot having taken Rosetta Stone yourself. I find you ramble a bit in this video. Could it be because you do not have experience with the product. I have personally used Rosetta Stone and agree with many of your points. Moments ago I watched your Pimsleur review and found it concise and to the point. I especially appreciate how you split up the pros and cons making it easy to follow. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make my life easier. =) =) =)
Have you used Rosetta Stone? Does it have more than one feature? The Flash-Card-Mode?
I used my cousins copy of Rosetta Stone Spanish level 1-5 and as a native Spanish speaker it is pretty decent. A matter of fluency I feel is what you'd see in a high school graduate, strong but not really able to talk in higher technical terms.
Personally I have had great success with Rosetta Stone. I also have attended language camps that indicate the RS users have decent accents. You can get all five levels in most languages heavily discounted. It is a bargain when purchased at a discount. Like any tool you should supplement - and with Rosetta Stone I supplement with grammar books, duolingo and real humans. Nothing takes the place of sitting with a real human and conversing. The key is to use your resources and do not quit part way through. Many people do not have the fortitude to get through the first two levels.
The Brazilian accent !
Com certeza.. But the English is UK
I think Rosetta is good to be used as a complementary tool in conjunction with other methods. Personally, I have Rosetta and find mixing it with duolingo and a traditional class is perfect for my beginner introduction to Spanish. Rosetta is very visual and duolingo is more analytical, and therefore each is building different pathways in your brain thus leading to greater language internalization. I think a traditional class (most expensive option) is also pretty important to understand the intricacies of grammar, to actually converse in the language, and receive feedback on progress/weaknesses.
Depoimento justo, sem elogiar nem negar as vantagens que o programa têm. Os produtos de Rosetta Stona não são entre os mais baratos, assim claro que a gente pode julgar, aconselhar e compartilhar as próprias experiências. E, impressionante é ao lado dum sucesso da empresa o fato que o produto funciona muito bem, até anos após a minha compra, RS ainda me permite obter atualizações. Faz algum tempo já quando tentei aprimorar o mandarim. Bom, e no início já se revelou que o jeito Rosetta Stone é muito pitoresco, não tem explicação nenhuma na língua do aprendiz. Isso se vende como vantagem. Mas o fato é que assim se pode vender o mesmo curso sem grandes adaptações em vários países. Além disso, todo o conteúdo é relacionado às fotos, que são em todos os cursos bem parecidas. Então, um esforço diminuído para a editoria. Se for vantajoso para aprendizes? No início, que foca mais em apanhar vocabulário, não tem problema. Nas imagens, as informações pitorescas só, dá pra entender. A coisa fica mais difícil quando chega o ensinamento da gramática indispensável: passado-presentes-futuro, comparações, frases condicionais, algo assim mal se pode entender somente pelas fotos e ideogramas, não tem jeito. Assim, sem pesquisar noutras fontes, a gente não pode tirar dúvidas. E isso eu não considero nem nem efetivo nem eficaz. Confesso que esperei um pouco mais dum programa que se chama “curso completo (cinco níveis)” e por qual se paga entre 300 e 400 Euros / Dólares. Mais um assunto é que nas línguas sem alfabeto latino não há nada que ensina por exemplo os carácteres chineses, nem Pinyin, nem a intonação. E mesmo que tem a gravação de voz no programa, o sentindo dela é limitado sem instrução, a própria avaliação da fala não deu certo por muitas vezes. Assim a gente advinha o que poderia acertar... Eu durante todos os exercícios, é sempre o mesmo modo “Multiple Choice”: Nas tarefas, tem que escolher a resposta que fica entre três até seis possíveis frases ou imagens dadas. No caso de mandarim, não vi grande sentido em escrever respostas em Pinyin, até sem sinais diacríticos. Outra coisa foram as repetições, de vez em quando, após um certo tempo ou avanço no programa, tem que repetir algo das lições antes. O sentido disso é mesmo questionável. Quando a gente já mexe nas frases mais complexas, será que fizesse sentido regressar num exercício o que só se trata de “oí” e “como você está?”. No fim, algo bom: Uma vez registado como cliente de Rosetta Stone , a partir deste momento tem frequentemente promoções nas quais tem descontos consideráveis para outros produtos e subscrições. Mas não aproveitei disso, pois descobri que não é tanto o meu jeito predileto.
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Obrigado pela tradução!
@@rentok8195 Kkkkkk....vc deve ser o psicopata dos comentários!
É cada comentário fora do comum
Do you think you can make an updated review?
I'd argue that you should try it if your a visual learner. If not, try a different program or book or, find a well qualified person to teach you
Does Rosetta Stone offer more than one feature? (Flash-Card-Mode?)
I've used it for Portuguese.
I'd say that for someone who has never learned a foreign language before (and no, Spanish in -US- high school does not count ;-) ) it is okay. However, if you are already familiar with the process of learning a foreign language, it is way too slow. Also, once you have passed puberty, there simply is no easy way to learn a foreign language without a lot of memorizing, analysis and yes, repetition. Take irregular verbs in English - you just have to learn them by heart. You will need to have a table of them somewhere and just repeat until you know it. Also, as stated in the video, learning a language is NEVER achieved with just one tool. Of course it is easiest if you simply live in a foreign country and are forced to.
I think Rosetta Stone is extremely overpriced, at least for me. If I got like 80% discount on lifetime package I would go for it, otherwise it is just too expensive and to me it is better to use multiple different cheap (or even free) apps, than overpriced Rosetta. I like that they do not use translations (though I think they go bit too far with it, I think translations are handy at the beginning), being completely immersed in language from day one is tough but effective. However you still need to learn the language, no one can teach you, the apps can help you with your learning and I think that RS may help you get started but you better use some other tools as well.
Bring Livemocha back 😭😭😭
Is rosetta stone good???
E bom ou ruim??
Its not an objective review, I learned Turkish and Swedish... but your selling a method as well, its more marketing on your side rather than being objective.
+DDA ADDE I'm selling a method? Where?
All the levels of Rosetta Stone is at most 200 hours worth of content, closer to 100. Can you become fluent with 200 hours worth of content? Obviously not. It's still worth doing. Honestly, if they expanded the course and added more interactive elements (actual movies/animations instead of pictures), they could probably make a course that did make you fluent. Problem is, it would be a huge course and few people even bother finishing what they have now. The core philosophy is comprehensible input. That is the core of what they are trying to do with the course. And it works. It's just not enough of it, and it's cluttered with things the marketing department probably told them they needed, like the speaking and writing lessons.
Apparently Rosetta Stone is only good for Chinese and Latin based languages
So it must be as bad as Duolingo. I’ll stick with Busuu and LingQ, much better apps for learning languages.
I have not tested Busuu. I cannot see Rosetta Stone and LingQ competing at all. They can complement each other quite well though. LingQ is great for building advanced vocabulary imho, the mini-stories are still rather limited to learn the language. And LingQ is all about translating, while Rosetta Stone is all about immersion and audio/visual learning. It is also an okay tool for speaking exercises. It is not perfect, but it is better than most of the competition short of talking to actual humans.
@@NetAndyCz Rosetta stone really isn't immersive. If the experience was immersive you would see people running as people are talking about them, but Rosetta stone only shows you a static picture that you have to interpret as running. You don't get immersive input with rosetta what they aim for is comprehensible input in exclusively the target language. If you want want an immersive experience play video games, listen music, or go to an area which uses your target language.
@@joshuahess7197 Well, I guess the level of immersion might depend on your imagination. It is hard to get beginner content without translations and Rosetta stone does that. Anyway pictures are more immersive to me than no pictures of LingQ;)
@@NetAndyCz It is the story you are reading that is immersive. Lingq assists you to actually immerse yourself in authentic foreign language literature. I dont know what could be more immersive.
@@ramonek9109 The fact I do not understand a word as a beginner kind of prevents the immersion. So the pictures help me. Or translations but those are *not* immersive.
Bla bla bla bla bla, hueco dice mucho y no expresa nada!waste my time.
🥴🥴🥴🥴
Why do people bring up becoming fluent? There’s so much that comes before fluency. And no language school or app will make someone fluent. Only the student efforts and time itself can help someone even approach fluency. Please, stop talking about fluency. Geez...
Dafuq is a polyglot
A person who speaks many languages.