Here's some trivia that always confuses people. On the request of the parents of Danny Lloyd (Danny), they didn't want Danny to be aware that he was in a horror movie. So they somehow filmed the whole movie without Danny realizing he was in a horror movie instead of a family drama. Usually when Wendy is carrying Danny it was a doll hence why he was "limp". Danny didn't watch this movie until he was a teenager because his parents were protecting him from it.
That's kind of weird. Why even let him do it then? Seems like a bunch of unnecessary trouble to go through. Besides, he must've had some awareness he was in a horror film. I mean some of those scenes he was in aren't very relaxing. I know he was a little boy, but I don't get how he couldn't have known on some level.
@@ChrisTheAspergerGuy "Why even let him do it then?" money. "I mean some of those scenes he was in aren't very relaxing." family movies often contain conflict that isnt very relaxing.
Danny Lloyd, the actor playing Danny, improvised the action of wagging his finger whenever speaking as "Tony" during his audition. It was not written down as part of his character in the screenplay. Stanley Kubrick kept the finger wag as part of the character when they started filming. Imagine impressing one of the greatest directors ever enough with an improv as a child.
That's what directing is, though. Film is collaborative art and the director picks and chooses what stays in and what doesn't. The director obviously gets ideas of his own, but it's recognizing everyone else's great ideas that are going to work and knowing which ones to discard, that's a major percentage of the director's job right there. So definitely kudos to Danny Lloyd, he WAS great. But kudos to Kubrick (and Leon Vitali, who worked one-on-one with Danny) for knowing to cast him, and how they got that amazing performance. The scene in the hall, when he recovers from seeing the twins, where he goes from terrified to Tony back to terrified is outstanding screen acting......for ANY actor, of any age!
Rest in Peace Shelly Duvall. She killed it. I think people didn't understand what it's like to battle between not wanting to hurt the person you love, to give up that trust, and to have to protect yourself. Many men and women that haven't been abused just don't understand. When you you've been there, you realize she nailed it.
@@rosemadder5547 This. Shelley Duvall did an incredible performance. I have seen many similar women who live in abusive relationship. They really look "off". Mentally fragile women who always look frightened and insecure. Shelley's performance was so genuine that it was heartbreaking to watch.
The legendary Scatman Crothers! (the actor that played Hallorann). If you want more of him and Nicholson, highly recommend "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"!
He was also in the movie Silver Streak and was the voice of Hong Kong Phooey (a cartoon dog that could do martial arts) and the voice of Jazz in the 1980s Transformers cartoon.
I really hope y'all watch the sequel "Doctor Sleep." It's an amazing book and a very good and satisfying sequel to this movie. I hope y'all watch it soon. It has an amazing cast.
Loved that movie, the parallels between Danny and Jack were great. If I had a problem it's that I like the ending of the book more than the movie, where Jack barely features nor does he finish his character arc.
Fun Fact: Jack Nicholson was a firefighter and when they tried to use a prop door for him to smash with the axe he destroyed it immediately. So they went back to using regular doors for those scenes.
Yes, that why it was changed to the Overlook in Colorado. Originally, it was set in a Japanese style shoji, with paper wall dividers & doors, but Nicholson just tore through it too easily. Little known fact, The Karate Kid got his name from this early version of the script (Daniel-San [Danny])
-The opening helicopter scene...this was shot before gyroscopic cameras too. This was never seen before. -The opening is also Jack driving to the Overlook, to show how isolated the hotel really is. -A lot of the shots in the film used a Steadicam. This was the first film to really use it to its potential, and this was down to Kubrick. The inventor (and operator here) Garrett Brown, saw it as a way to shoot chase scenes and maybe for some special effects. Kubrick instead used it to perform tracking shots that were up till then impossible (like Halloran showing Wendy and Danny around the kitchen). One of the reasons for there being so many takes in this film was Kubrick and Brown figuring out how to use the Steadicam...Brown says that usually the first 10-15 takes were for him. They were developing the methods that would be used afterwards. -Danny Lloyd was 5 years old when shooting started. He had never acted before. -The interior and exterior shots of the hotel (except for establishing shots) were filmed at EMI Elstree Studios in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, England. The 'snow' was a combination of Styrofoam, salt, and 'smoke' from smoke machines. -And I apologize to the 'believers' out there, but contrary to popular belief (or really, urban legend) Kubrick did not 'abuse' Shelley Duvall. This urban legend grew out of misunderstanding (sometimes on purpose) the 'behind the scenes' video shot during filming by Kubrick's daughter Vivian. -One of the reasons why the actors look odd in the film is Kubrick used a wide-angle lens for most of the shooting. -Kubrick also used optical illusions, moving pieces of the set, etc. to subconsciously disorient and creep out the audience. In your video there are two scenes with Danny, and mounted on the wall menacingly over his head are knives. -Something to pay attention to...how often the characters lie to each other. -Something else to watch for is how often mirrors play a role in a scene. Like whenever Jack is talking to a ghost...he is looking at himself in a mirror. -Danny using his finger to represent Tony was Danny Lloyd's idea. -Of the four main actors, Jack Nicholson, Shelley Duvall, Danny Lloyd, and Scatman Crothers, not one of them were trained actors. All four were 'naturals'. -Wendy tells the doctor Jack has been sober for 5 months...she is lying. Later in the film Jack also tells the ghost/bartender that he's been sober for 'five miserable months'. But Jack says that about two months later than Wendy does. I doubt Jack would minimize how long he's been sober, so really when Wendy has that conversation, Jack has been sober for maybe three months. -What happened? The film was constructed in a way that the viewer ultimately determines what the story was and what happened. Different facts are stated or alluded to. It's up to each person to determine for themselves what items are important, and how to connect them into a narrative. -Read the book? It won't help. If anything, it will lead you astray in figuring out what happened in the film...Kubrick took the basic ideas and created something of his own. Some of the sillier parts and ideas he jettisoned, and a lot of the more interesting bits were his creation.
As a testament to Kubrick’s insane attention to detail, he had his secretary, a woman named Margaret Warrington, manually type out *500 pages* of “All work and no play makes Jack a full boy” using a different style/layout on every page. He then had her do the same thing in several other languages for the foreign releases.
One of the many, many theories about _The Shining_ is that Jack also has the Shine, but as Halloran suggested, he was one of those who didn't know what he had. He also had vivid "dreams" (like the nightmare he had) that so disturbed him that he began drinking as self-medication. This made him susceptible to the encroachment by the Overlook and its denizens.
As the hotel is built on an ancient Native American burial ground, whose soil is sour and evil, the original caretaker of the Overlook was possessed by an evil spirit back when the hotel was first completed. Every since then, the deeds of the damned soul is repeated by whomever else the evil spirit possesses (as in Delbert Grady, and Jack Torrence). It's not like the actual Jack was physically there in 1921, but because he was being possessed, he felt a familiarity with the place that even he couldn't quite understand. In fact, the hotel already had a hold of him since when he went there for his job interview. That's also why he was writing, "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy", from day one. He was already slipping into insanity because of the demonic influence. The original Stephen King novel was released minus both a prologue and an epilogue that King had written, but decided not to publish with the book's original printing. They were later released by Whispers Magazine, and TV Guide Magazine to promote a TV miniseries on The Shining that was aired in 1997. The prologue was titled, "Before the Play", and the epilogue, "After the Play". They explain a lot about what many had questions about concerning the story of the novel, and also the film. The hotel was obviously haunted, and inundated by displaced spirits of people who died there tragically during the time of the hotels opening to the then present time (1980). The director, Stanley Kubrick, hid in place sight many symbolic things in certain shots in the movie. For example, the "Calumet" can of food in the pantry relates to tragic injustice that happen to a particular Native American tribe (the details of which are too extensive to discuss here, but look it up, it's quite interesting).
There are so many ways to interpret this film, and I agree with some of your observations, but if Jack wasn't physically there in 1921, how do you explain the photo at the end? And Jack said he felt as though it was all a deja vu. I think in the ballroom scene that Jack was flashing to a past life when he was the caretaker, (Delbert said Jack was always the caretaker there). I think he meant that the evil spirit that had consumed Jack had always been the caretaker, because other than in 1921, and in the present time, Jack was working or living somewhere else. Or in between lifetimes. And Delbert said he'd always been there. So another evil Indian spirit was representing Charles Grady in that restroom scene. Actually, Charles and Delbert. That's why Jack mistook Delbert for Charles Grady. Charles was the one who killed his wife and kids in 1970.
Smart of you to notice the steadiness of the camera during Danny's Big Wheel ride. I noticed something very different too when I saw the movie premiere in the theater. The Shining was the first movie to utilize the Steadicam. It uses a gyroscope to keep the image still. It's inventor Garrett Brown won an Oscar for its invention.
The interesting thing about the Steadicam being used on The Shining is that it's barely used for what it was designed for. Most of the movie is filmed in Steadicam, but much of the time the operator is acting like a tripod camera would. There's only a handful of scenes where it's used for what it was designed for...following Wendy to dreaming Jack, leading Danny out of the maze etc. There's a version of the film on dvd that has the Steadicam inventor, and cameraman for most of the film doing commentary, he supplies a lot of detail on it, how he adapted it to make it work like a tripod camera would.
Kubrick initially had one final scene which he decided to delete. It would have changed the story somewhat. It's Wendy and Danny recovering at a hospital after their ordeal, with a visit from Ullman. He tells them that they investigated the hotel and didn't find anything, not even the dead bodies. He suggests the extreme weather might have caused them to imagine things. Since Wendy and Danny have nowhere else to go, Ullman insists that they come live with him for a spell. He's got extra rooms and a maid in LA. On the way out, Ullman tosses Danny the ball from room 237. Danny: 😨
@@LanceJ. That's the least of the questions that scene opens up. We can assume that Jack and Halloran became part of the hotel (we still see Jack in the photo), but that doesn't explain why Ullman is unconcerned with the disappearance of his cook and the man he hired to watch Overlook. My personal opinion is that Kubrick and his co-writer got carried away, and it was a good thing the scene got cut.
@@LanceJ. Oh yeah, that's true. For all she knows he could still be on the loose somewhere tracking her down. She has no way of knowing he froze to death.
I never pass up watching The Shining reaction videos!! As much as everyone gets scared or creeped out by the same scene, it's worth it to watch over and over. My favorite horror movies to recommend are these... The Omen (1976) and the two sequels are very good. The Changeling (1980) Autopsy of Jane Doe (2016)
Lol seeing younger generations thinking parents didn’t beat their kids in that time and age. Dislocation is a bit much, but I swear I saw my life flash before my eyes when my pops would break out the belt 😂
We had a min-canoe paddle hanging on the wall as an intimidation. I don't recall my parents ever using it, we only got spankings and our mouths washed out with soap.
As someone thats been chased by a drunk man through the snow, with him slurring and screaming my name, the maze scene at the end with Jack screaming for Danny.... It's creepily perfect acting.
Yes the book and the movie are different but both hold up on their own iconic merits. There was a miniseries made that was true to the novel that is worth watching.
Being true to the novel did not make the Steven Weber TV miniseries better however. Nothing can really stand in the shadow of the 1980 Kubrick classic, no matter how much King disapproved.
@@SWLinPHX plus King only disproves of the movie because the character of Jack Torrence was based off of how King saw himself. Kubrick eliminated Jack's redemption arc of the story and committed him to being a monster at the end. Now this makes for a much more compelling horror movie, but it does require the sacrifice of a happier ending (where jack dies a good man). Still I'd probably dislike the movie too if my favorite character was changed from being a tragic hero to a straight villain. But eliminate that one personal aspect from the situation and who knows, King might have actually loved the movie.
Trivia for the day: That's wasn't snow. It was all salt. The hotel front was on a Soundstage and they brought in truckloads of salt. And notice the opening helicopter shot of the Overlook....there is no maze anywhere. You should watch some of the many documentaries about the odd things about this movie. You don't know how psychologically disturbing it is until you see how Kubrick plays with your mind with impossible architecture etc. Very subtle but disturbing.
Yes, thats what makes the horror of the overlook so much more depressing. Colorado county decided to keep the pass road open with tons of salt air dropped, but the plane went off course and it was deposited over the hotel and grounds. If it wasnt for the dodgy pilot, the roads would have been open and Jack's cabin fever cut short by partying skiers on holiday.
Ridley Scott also used The Shining's helicopter shots for Blade Runner. Kubrick always had a few thousand extra to share. haha Basically The Shining's intro is Balde Runner's outro in a way...depending on which ending you see
I think that's a big part of why the film is still being talked about today. Its a film you can watch repeatedly and see something new each time...all of the so called continuity errors, the weird layout of the hotel, the colour shifts and reversals, it's all crafted meticulously to mess with your head on a not quite conscious level.
@@myfriendisaac I mean, Kubrick did get an incredible performance out of her. So there’s something to be said for mental and emotional torture I guess lol. Yeah I just read that Danny’s parents didn’t want him knowing it was a horror movie so the cast and crew made it seem to him like it was just a family drama 😂😂😂
Highly recommend watching the direct sequel *Doctor Sleep* that takes place in the present day when Danny is an adult. It’s amazing sequel/adaptation. Also, if you guys see Doctor Sleep you need to see the Director’s Cut.
Don't watch Doctor Sleep as a way to better understand Kubrick's The Shining. Different universes and frankly Dr. Sleep attempts to break the ambiguity and magic of Kubrick's version is blasphemy.
Everyone liked Doctor Sleep and maybe I need to watch it again because I didn’t like it. I was a bit confused with that movie. I think I need to re-watch it.
So here's something about this movie you should know and is interesting. Tony is actually Danny. Danny's name is Daniel Anthony Torrance. Danny is talking to his future self due to his shine ability. So older Danny, figured out a way to use his shine ability to travel back in time to warn his younger self about the hotel.
This seems to be a thing that sort of maybe possibly happens somehow. There are loads of people who say that they have memories of being in awful situations years ago and they encounter and are spoken to by an adult who looks vaguely familiar, and the adult chills them out or encourages them or assures them that while the situation might seem awful they WILL live through it. Then years later when they grow up, they recognized themselves in the mirror as the person that was helpful when they needed it most. One scientist who endured awful abuse as a little girl swears that she remembers a woman who she now recognizes as herself as someone who appeared to her and helped her get through it. She talks about this phenomena as 'time travel therapy,' the idea being that when she was a healthy adult and able to spare the effort she kind of sent help back through time to when she needed it as a little girl. It's not a stretch if one considers all the theories about how spacetime is not actually a linear thing as we experience it - a big if, but that idea is being batted around. She says she has no idea if any actual mental time travel is happening or if she as an adult is rewriting her memories as a coping mechanism so that rather than remembering being by herself and coping with the abuse all alone her brain healed the trauma by reimagining a friend who supported and helped her out. At the end of the day even if it's the latter if it helps a person heal, what difference does it make? Fun to think about , anyway.
@@JeshuaSquirrel I believe so. I remember someone said in a comment on another The Shining reaction video that said it was in the book. I just googled it before finishing this comment and yes, it is from the book, towards the end. Stephen King put it in the mini-series version from what I googled. Though I haven't seen that version in a long time.
The TV version of 'the Shining' from the 1990s shows this explicitly, with 'Tony' appearing floating in the air like an angel to Danny at the end. King's novel 'Doctor Sleep' has adult Danny effectively travelling back to the Overlook at this earlier time, but there's no interaction with his earlier self. - but then a 'Danny Torrance' exists in the offshoot of The Stand' as well, so...
I known this is a serious, scary movie, but Jack telling Wendy to f-off "when he's working" as he explains it to her in that scene makes me LOL every time. The delivery, the hand gesture, the nonchalant way he dismisses her it just cracks me up every time.
The sequel of this Doctor Sleep is such a great sequel which is rare. It fleshes out the story more and is really really well acted and more disturbing in some ways.
That was a garbage movie. Just a shitty revenge story with some shallow characters who has x men powers. That movie shouldn't have been made, it was nothing but unnecessary violence against children.
This movie is a classic for a reason. "Doctor Sleep" is a must see too, I really love the whole approach of bridging the "The Shinning" movie and the book together, it was so well done. It's not as creepy as this movie per say but it gets emotionally invested in the characters and the story. There is some scenes that are extremely hard to watch, one in particular that the actors shooting it had a difficult time with emotionally because the child actor performance was very realistic.
Please please PLEASE, watch the Directors cut of Dr Sleep. I’d grade the theatrical version a 7.5, but the directors cut I’d grade 9.5. It’s such a great sequel to the Shining. Mike Flanagan is a wonderful horror director(Haunting of Hill House, Bly Manor, Midnight Mass).
I also request you guys to watch Hereditary (2018). It's one of the few modern-day horror movies that doesn't use cheap jump-scare tactics like the ones in the conjuring universe or any generic horror movie. It uses psychological imagination and creepy atmospheric built-up to let the fear creep in in the audience.
"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" - H.P. Lovecraft "Never explain anything" - H.P. Lovecraft
I always wondered how exactly Wendy explained this to the police when she got to town. She and Danny are uninjured but Jack is dead and has multiple injuries -including what could be considered a defensive wound on his hand. Not sure the "My husband was possessed by a Hotel" defense would fly!
The opening helicopter footage was shot on Going-to-the-Sun Road and it's in Montana, not Colorado. The real hotel used for exteriors is the Timberline Lodge and it's in Oregon. The interiors are modeled on The Awahanee Lodge in Southern California. The real hotel that inspired King to write the book is The Stanley Hotel and it IS in Colorado and it IS allegedly haunted. The sequel is DOCTOR SLEEP and it has a Director's Cut. Absolutely must-see. There was originally a 2-minute coda that showed Wendy in the hospital getting a visit from Mr. Ullmann. They talk about what happened (apparently the maze has been searched but Jack's body hasn't been found) and then when he leaves, he tosses Danny the same tennis ball that rolled at him earlier in the film. Kubrick recalled all the prints about a month after release and cut them all off and destroyed them. To date, there's no known surviving footage, but people are still on the lookout for it.
I love this movie in such a different way now. But watching people watch it for the first time I forget about the surface plot that you start off with. At the same time, it's this movie that made me start thinking differently about movies and cinema in general. A simple search of "why did the shining end like that" opened the world of subtext and hidden meanings in so many movies. Kubrick was the master of tying pop and underground cinema together.
One of the few times when the movie is better than the book. Love King, but sorry dude, Kubrick hit it out of the ball park. One of the best movies ever made. Where King 'shines' for me is his little tales, lots of his short stories. Such a prolific mind of macabre and awesome plots. (skeleton crew, night shift, etc, oh oh the running man was amazing
One of my favorite movies ... the cinematography alone! And there are the excellent performances and of course the perfect setting! You gotta watch Doctor Sleep now! It's basically a sequel to The Shinging and excellent in its own right.
Yep! However one thing they are clueless about and zero experience with is...cold winter weather. They seem to think that "a thick sweater" will defeat all kinds of wintery weather. The reason Danny (or his mother) could not hide outside ...is that they would succumb to the weather pretty quickly. And it is central to the plot and reason of the movie - once your there - you are stuck there until spring.
@@jarls5890 to be fair everyone seems to miss that, they will inevitably say "why is he going back inside??" Even people I watch it with will say it. I think they're so invested in the tension they forget common sense. Which, in that case, the movie is working very well!
Just a fun fact, the guy interviewing Jack for the job is Barry Nelson, the very first James Bond on film in a live performance of Casino Royale back in the late 50's.
It's very easy to unintentionally/accidentally dislocate a toddlers shoulder like my mom did to me when I was young 😅 I was a nightmare as a kid...! My mom felt terrible..... The doctor assured her that it was more common than she thinks. I'm pretty sure I was just trying to avoid going to bed at that time. But it can happen when trying to protect your child too. For example, I used to always figure out how to unlock the door and run naked in the street lol...
Yeah my mom did that to my sister while lifting her up onto the porch. The child's own body weight can dislocate their shoulder. I never knew the story but when I got older and started having my own kids my mom would scream "Dont lift 'em by one arm!" and I was like, "chill, Mom", and she then told me the story.
Kubrick purposefully filmed scenes in such a way that weren't physically possible. He gives viewers a rough layout of the interconnected hallways and where they lead, then filmed all of it in different locations that the viewers knew subconsciously shouldn't be there. Hallways that should turn one way now turn the other, rooms that should be located in a certain space now have hallways going straight through them as if the room didn't exist, etc. This subconsciously creates a sense of disorientation that the characters are also feeling. There's a documentary called "Room 237" that covers some of that.
The hotel that inspired Stephen King to write The Shining was the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. (It was used for the Overlook Hotel in the 1997 TV mini-series). But nothing in the Kubrick film was shot in Colorado. Nearly the entire film was shot on soundstages and facades in England! The Overlook exterior was modeled after the Timberline Lodge on Mount Hood in Oregon (about 52 miles from the Portland airport!). Some shots were filmed at the Timberline but none of the actors were ever there! The opening shots of Jack driving to the hotel were shot in Montana. The mountain roads there were far more beautiful and photogenic than anything they found in Colorado. So...none of this movie was done in Colorado!
The shots of the real Timberline Lodge in Colorado, that are in 'The Shining', plus all the opening sequence of Jack driving to the Overlook, and several shots of the Overlook showing winter approaching are all, by necessity of the Timberline's location, shot in Colorado. The exterior of the Overlook, modelled on the Timberline lodge, were shot outdoors in England, using a location that has been seen in many movies. In 'Doctor Who: Dalek Invasion of Earth, 2150 AD', the 'mine' set has a slope in the right-hand background that leads up to the edge of a reservoir, creating a horizon line, this is the same slope that Wendy and Danny travel up when escaping the Overlook at the end of The Shining. This film studio also has a London street set that has appeared in many movies and TV series (the Sherlock Holmes series starring Jeremy Brett, for example), and this area was also re-dressed as Gotham City for the first Tim Burton Batman film.
@@stevetheduck1425 the Timberline Lodge is in Oregon. I've stayed there. The "Highway to the Sun" in the driving scenes were in Montana. Nothing was shot in Colorado.
@@stevetheduck1425 The opening scene of Jack driving to the Overlook is actually Going to the Sun Road in Glacier National Park in Montana. I have driven that exact same road.
As a child of abuse, The Shining's true terror works without any of the supernatural elements. A young kid, smart enough to understand both his parents as people, trapped with an abusive Father and an incompetent Mother. That's terror.
There is an interesting video on TH-cam that reveals that on a number of occasions in the film, Jack Nicholson looks directly into the camera. I had never noticed it before, but it's pretty clear when you slow things down and it's more than just an actors eyes naturally moving into the camera's pov. I don't know if it was a choice by Kubrick or Nicholson, but it's definitely there. I wouldn't call it subliminal, but once you notice it, it becomes even more creepy because it's as if Jack Torrance is looking at YOU
Achara, since you said you were fascinated by all of the supernatural "shine" talk, then Doctor Sleep is an absolute must watch for you and Steph. Because the film is essentially a deep dive into that aspect of this film. But it must be the director's cut, which is far better than the theatrical cut. For what it's worth, I'm one who tends to dislike remakes and sequels to classic horror films, but Doctor Sleep blew me away. I went in expecting to not like it, and ended up enjoying it as much as I did The Shining, which I'm a hardcore fan of. As added incentive, it's directed by Mike Flanagan, who made The Haunting of Hill House/Bly Manor and Midnight Mass.
Great reaction as always ladies , this has got to be one of if not the scariest film I have ever watched from the opening panning shot across the landscape to the super creepy music playing this really sets the tone for the rest of the movie ( and like you pointed out no drones back then so the opening shot would have been from a helicopter ) everything in The Shining works so well and adds to the growing sense of unease and dread love the scenes of Danny riding his bike around the hotel especially the sound going from carpet to wood floor . All the performances are fantastic Jack does unhinged so so well ( you can see why he got the Joker role ) Shelley Duvall gives a great performance and does scared so well , Danny Lloyd is great , his Tony voice is so unsettling and I have to give a special mention to the late Philip Stone as Grady who is incredibly creepy , Mr Stone lived near me when I lived in London years ago and was a local celebrity having had a lot of supporting roles over the years as the British Captain Blumburtt in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom , he was the Priest that marries Ming and Dale in 1980s Flash Gordon and he was also the incredibly creepy Mr Finch in a touch of Frost in 1997 . Apparently Stephen King does not like this adaptation of his work but The Shining along with Misery has to be one of the best adaptations made . Everyone knows the image of Jack's face saying " here's Johnny " but in the context of the film it is so scary ,by the way the axe he uses was not a prop it was a real fireman's axe . My take on the end is that all the ghosts of the Overlooks victims are coming out and that Jack being in the photo shows the Hotel has claimed another soul , like you said Achara the Hotel is almost alive which is another popular theory . There is a sequel called Dr Sleep which stars Ewan McGregor as a grown up Danny who is still troubled by visions , I have not seen it but can't imagine it will be anywhere near as effective as The Shining . T
Loving the Achara and Stef reaction combo, ESPECIALLY horror movies, really great reaction. Hope you guys react to Doctor Sleep. Different from this movie, but it was interesting. Anyway, hope to see more reactions from both of you!
Jack Nicholson was a volunteer fire fighter at one time. They had to get a thicker door because he kept tearing through the door like it was paper. Lol
Steadicam with a low mounted bracket inch above the floor mounted on a left over wheelchair from the movie "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" is why the tracking is so smooth.
The movie interiors were shot in a soundstage in England, the exterior was filmed in Oregon at Timberline Lodge.The interior was basically inspired by the Ahwahnee hotel in Yosemite National Park.
The hotel is the Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood, Oregon. The interior was a sound stage in England. The scenes running around the snow and maze were also shot on the sound stage in England.
A little fun fact. The guy sitting next to Jack played the priest in the Titantic when the ship was sinking. As Jack (Leonardo DiCaprio) was running past him with Rose and said to run a little faster to the shadow of death or something similar to that 😂
I've heard you both mention "End Credit Scenes" in a few different movies I've watched with you so far. These scenes started in the mid/late 1960s and were VERY few and far in between. It didn't start becoming a popular part of movies until the 2000s. Just wanted to give you a heads up that the majority of the older movies that you are watching will not have them :-)
When I watched this movie for the first time actually I found it funny because previously I watched that Simpsons treehouse of horror episode as a kid and then I was able to compare it almost frame by frame and it's almost the same, so the bits that were supposed to scare me turned out to be really funny thanks to the Simpsons.. No beer and no TV makes homer go.. but I don't know the rest.. 😂😂😂
15:24 the camera is being operated by the inventor of the steadicam! It's a device that uses weights to keep the camera still. This movie is famous for being the first major instance of its use. It's a landmark in cinema technique.
The opening scenes are filmed along the Columbia Gorge, on the Washington, Oregon border. The hotel itself is on Mt. Hood, in Oregon. The inside, I believe was filmed in England. And, fun fact... Much of the snow used in the maze scene was fake snow, borrowed from the Star Wars filming of the Empire Strikes Back.
I’ve watched a number of these reactions to the Shining and I have to say yours were the best reactions and also great insights for a first time viewing of a pretty mysterious film. Great job!
A rich elderly lady lived most of her life at the Overlook. She was there every May through October, from the 1930s on. She was gorgeous....But when she grew old, one day her longtime Boytoy/Companion left her.....for a younger woman. Despondent and broken, the old lady drowned herself in her bathtub......in Room 237. She.......wasn't found for awhile. Both naked ghosts are the same person
When Mommy looked in the mirror she saw that RED RUM was actually the backward spelling of MURDER! Grady told him that he had always ben the host! That is established by that picture with him in it.👱♀👱♀👗👗👠👠❤❤
Hotel exterior was shot in Oregon, Mt Hood, book was written at and based off the hotel in Estes Park Co. The TV version showed the Colorado Hotel...The Stanley
Great reaction to a classic! This movie was mostly shot in the UK on rebuilt sets. The exterior of the Timberline Lodge in Mt. Hood ,Oregon was used for the hotel., and the "helicopter shot" you spoke of in the opening shot was Wild Goose Island in Glacier National Park , Montana. The actual story for The Shining was inspired by a hotel in Colorodo, The Stanley Hotel. The novel and movie were definately both set in Colorodo though. If you can find the 1990s miniseries of The Shining give it a go, as it was filmed at The Stanley Hotel in CO. Also check out the movie "Dr. Sleep" , as it is a sequel to The Shining. Ewan MacGregor plays a grown up Danny🙂
The Shining is absolutely the best horror movie of all time. Most of the rooms are not physically possible, parts of furniture come and go frame after frame, all three of characters have mental problems. Their acting is outstanding
When I was a child I could tell what had happened to my father during his day. It scared the hell out of my mother and she discouraged my stories. I lost the power.
Something I never noticed before: Jack talks to Delbert Grady and says 'I saw your picture in the paper, you...' This means Delbert and Charles Grady look alike, addiing to the business of the man in the 4th July Ball photo looking just like Jack Torrance (and perhaps why D Grady recognises 'Mr. Torrance.')
My theory on that is that they are the same person but the hotel has warped Charles Grady into a different persona named Delbert Grady. Delbert Grady is Charles Grady he just no longer knows he was once Charles Grady and the hotel has rewritten his memory to make him think he is this being named Delbert Grady. The hotel did a similar thing with his daughters changing them from an eight year old and a ten year old and remaking them as identical twins.
First of all you two together make a wonderful pair for this reaction channel I hope that you two continue with this. When I first saw this movie it kind of let me down a bit and I think it was because of the directors choices (I know he's a star) but as time went by I learned to appreciate this movie much more simply because of this wonderful cast of actors, in my opinion they make this movie the classic that it is seen to be. I will also tell you that they made a television version of this movie and I bought it years ago as a two disc dvd set (its currently lost in my room) and you would be surprised as I was as to how good and legitimately scary that tv movie turned out to be..
'How they keep it so steady?' This is not the first film using a device called the Steadicam, but Kubrick used it to excellent effect. To see what a Steadicam does, see 'Aliens' the two soldiers who carry the larger guns strapped to their bodies, are using guns mounted on a Steadicam harness. This was seriously studied as a way to make machine gunners more accurate, but no-one wanted to stand up on a battlefield in a firefight, making this idea effectively useless.
The hotel that this movie is based off of is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. The book is based off the hotel. I toured the hotel and it is very eerie. It gets really cold suddenly and randomly in parts of the hotel. The room that Stephen King stayed in, 217, was cold right outside the door, then immediately got warm. If I’m correct, Stephen King claimed he would never speak about what happened in room 217.
Here's some trivia that always confuses people. On the request of the parents of Danny Lloyd (Danny), they didn't want Danny to be aware that he was in a horror movie. So they somehow filmed the whole movie without Danny realizing he was in a horror movie instead of a family drama. Usually when Wendy is carrying Danny it was a doll hence why he was "limp". Danny didn't watch this movie until he was a teenager because his parents were protecting him from it.
that's some good parenting, and good economics.
That's an amazing feat! And great parenting. Especially considering the horror stories of how the lead actress was treated by the director.
That's kind of weird. Why even let him do it then? Seems like a bunch of unnecessary trouble to go through. Besides, he must've had some awareness he was in a horror film. I mean some of those scenes he was in aren't very relaxing. I know he was a little boy, but I don't get how he couldn't have known on some level.
.....meanwhile I saw "The Shining" when I was 10. About six months after the movie was released. 🤣
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"Why even let him do it then?"
money.
"I mean some of those scenes he was in aren't very relaxing."
family movies often contain conflict that isnt very relaxing.
Danny Lloyd, the actor playing Danny, improvised the action of wagging his finger whenever speaking as "Tony" during his audition. It was not written down as part of his character in the screenplay. Stanley Kubrick kept the finger wag as part of the character when they started filming. Imagine impressing one of the greatest directors ever enough with an improv as a child.
That's what directing is, though. Film is collaborative art and the director picks and chooses what stays in and what doesn't. The director obviously gets ideas of his own, but it's recognizing everyone else's great ideas that are going to work and knowing which ones to discard, that's a major percentage of the director's job right there. So definitely kudos to Danny Lloyd, he WAS great. But kudos to Kubrick (and Leon Vitali, who worked one-on-one with Danny) for knowing to cast him, and how they got that amazing performance. The scene in the hall, when he recovers from seeing the twins, where he goes from terrified to Tony back to terrified is outstanding screen acting......for ANY actor, of any age!
A lot of this movie is just taking the story from the book as a base and improvising the entire script
@@ros9764 They did not "improvise" the script. They wrote it.
@@jackal59 i meant what it was written in the book, that's part of the script
@@ros9764 the finger thing is not from the book, though.
Shelley Duvall getting a Razzie nomination for this movie is a crime
Rest in Peace Shelly Duvall. She killed it. I think people didn't understand what it's like to battle between not wanting to hurt the person you love, to give up that trust, and to have to protect yourself. Many men and women that haven't been abused just don't understand. When you you've been there, you realize she nailed it.
@@rosemadder5547 This. Shelley Duvall did an incredible performance. I have seen many similar women who live in abusive relationship. They really look "off". Mentally fragile women who always look frightened and insecure. Shelley's performance was so genuine that it was heartbreaking to watch.
When Hallorann gets killed was horrible but he did save them by coming there with the snowcat.
Others have demonstrated that if he had arrived a minute earlier, or a minute later, the story would have been very different. Destiny took a hand?
@@stevetheduck1425how so?
@@stevetheduck1425 in the book, he survived
The legendary Scatman Crothers! (the actor that played Hallorann). If you want more of him and Nicholson, highly recommend "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"!
Another masterpiece of cinema with both of these legendary actors.
YES
Such a good movie
He was also in the movie Silver Streak and was the voice of Hong Kong Phooey (a cartoon dog that could do martial arts) and the voice of Jazz in the 1980s Transformers cartoon.
@@DP-hy4vh omg! Not Hong Kong Phooey! I forgot all about that. 😆 🤣
"Doctor Sleep" (2019) is a must see. It's what a sequel should be. Similar but different with its own unique story.
One of my favorite movies.
I really hope y'all watch the sequel "Doctor Sleep." It's an amazing book and a very good and satisfying sequel to this movie. I hope y'all watch it soon. It has an amazing cast.
Agreed! I really enjoyed Doctor Sleep.
Loved that movie, the parallels between Danny and Jack were great. If I had a problem it's that I like the ending of the book more than the movie, where Jack barely features nor does he finish his character arc.
Same
its the only movie where good guys are OP.
F**k**g Loved IT.
Yep, DS turned out far better than I would've expected.
Fun Fact: Jack Nicholson was a firefighter and when they tried to use a prop door for him to smash with the axe he destroyed it immediately. So they went back to using regular doors for those scenes.
Yes, that why it was changed to the Overlook in Colorado. Originally, it was set in a Japanese style shoji, with paper wall dividers & doors, but Nicholson just tore through it too easily. Little known fact, The Karate Kid got his name from this early version of the script (Daniel-San [Danny])
@@fredfinkssource? I only knew about the prop door. When did this info about the hotel being Japanese-style come out?
@@Tochi68 Sounds suspicious.
@@SilentBob731 Oh its quite true, also it wasnt isolation that drove Jack mad, but repetitive 4 hour long kneeling tatami mat tea sessions.
@@Tochi68he's taking the piss, man
-The opening helicopter scene...this was shot before gyroscopic cameras too. This was never seen before.
-The opening is also Jack driving to the Overlook, to show how isolated the hotel really is.
-A lot of the shots in the film used a Steadicam. This was the first film to really use it to its potential, and this was down to Kubrick. The inventor (and operator here) Garrett Brown, saw it as a way to shoot chase scenes and maybe for some special effects. Kubrick instead used it to perform tracking shots that were up till then impossible (like Halloran showing Wendy and Danny around the kitchen). One of the reasons for there being so many takes in this film was Kubrick and Brown figuring out how to use the Steadicam...Brown says that usually the first 10-15 takes were for him. They were developing the methods that would be used afterwards.
-Danny Lloyd was 5 years old when shooting started. He had never acted before.
-The interior and exterior shots of the hotel (except for establishing shots) were filmed at EMI Elstree Studios in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, England. The 'snow' was a combination of Styrofoam, salt, and 'smoke' from smoke machines.
-And I apologize to the 'believers' out there, but contrary to popular belief (or really, urban legend) Kubrick did not 'abuse' Shelley Duvall. This urban legend grew out of misunderstanding (sometimes on purpose) the 'behind the scenes' video shot during filming by Kubrick's daughter Vivian.
-One of the reasons why the actors look odd in the film is Kubrick used a wide-angle lens for most of the shooting.
-Kubrick also used optical illusions, moving pieces of the set, etc. to subconsciously disorient and creep out the audience. In your video there are two scenes with Danny, and mounted on the wall menacingly over his head are knives.
-Something to pay attention to...how often the characters lie to each other.
-Something else to watch for is how often mirrors play a role in a scene. Like whenever Jack is talking to a ghost...he is looking at himself in a mirror.
-Danny using his finger to represent Tony was Danny Lloyd's idea.
-Of the four main actors, Jack Nicholson, Shelley Duvall, Danny Lloyd, and Scatman Crothers, not one of them were trained actors. All four were 'naturals'.
-Wendy tells the doctor Jack has been sober for 5 months...she is lying. Later in the film Jack also tells the ghost/bartender that he's been sober for 'five miserable months'. But Jack says that about two months later than Wendy does. I doubt Jack would minimize how long he's been sober, so really when Wendy has that conversation, Jack has been sober for maybe three months.
-What happened? The film was constructed in a way that the viewer ultimately determines what the story was and what happened. Different facts are stated or alluded to. It's up to each person to determine for themselves what items are important, and how to connect them into a narrative.
-Read the book? It won't help. If anything, it will lead you astray in figuring out what happened in the film...Kubrick took the basic ideas and created something of his own. Some of the sillier parts and ideas he jettisoned, and a lot of the more interesting bits were his creation.
As a testament to Kubrick’s insane attention to detail, he had his secretary, a woman named Margaret Warrington, manually type out *500 pages* of “All work and no play makes Jack a full boy” using a different style/layout on every page.
He then had her do the same thing in several other languages for the foreign releases.
I don't think the other languages had the same phrase.
She better had paid great
The actors was also taught to speak all languages fluently and Kubric shot every scene in every different language.
One of the many, many theories about _The Shining_ is that Jack also has the Shine, but as Halloran suggested, he was one of those who didn't know what he had. He also had vivid "dreams" (like the nightmare he had) that so disturbed him that he began drinking as self-medication. This made him susceptible to the encroachment by the Overlook and its denizens.
As the hotel is built on an ancient Native American burial ground, whose soil is sour and evil, the original caretaker of the Overlook was possessed by an evil spirit back when the hotel was first completed. Every since then, the deeds of the damned soul is repeated by whomever else the evil spirit possesses (as in Delbert Grady, and Jack Torrence). It's not like the actual Jack was physically there in 1921, but because he was being possessed, he felt a familiarity with the place that even he couldn't quite understand. In fact, the hotel already had a hold of him since when he went there for his job interview. That's also why he was writing, "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy", from day one. He was already slipping into insanity because of the demonic influence. The original Stephen King novel was released minus both a prologue and an epilogue that King had written, but decided not to publish with the book's original printing. They were later released by Whispers Magazine, and TV Guide Magazine to promote a TV miniseries on The Shining that was aired in 1997. The prologue was titled, "Before the Play", and the epilogue, "After the Play". They explain a lot about what many had questions about concerning the story of the novel, and also the film. The hotel was obviously haunted, and inundated by displaced spirits of people who died there tragically during the time of the hotels opening to the then present time (1980). The director, Stanley Kubrick, hid in place sight many symbolic things in certain shots in the movie. For example, the "Calumet" can of food in the pantry relates to tragic injustice that happen to a particular Native American tribe (the details of which are too extensive to discuss here, but look it up, it's quite interesting).
There are so many ways to interpret this film, and I agree with some of your observations, but if Jack wasn't physically there in 1921, how do you explain the photo at the end? And Jack said he felt as though it was all a deja vu. I think in the ballroom scene that Jack was flashing to a past life when he was the caretaker, (Delbert said Jack was always the caretaker there). I think he meant that the evil spirit that had consumed Jack had always been the caretaker, because other than in 1921, and in the present time, Jack was working or living somewhere else. Or in between lifetimes. And Delbert said he'd always been there. So another evil Indian spirit was representing Charles Grady in that restroom scene. Actually, Charles and Delbert. That's why Jack mistook Delbert for Charles Grady. Charles was the one who killed his wife and kids in 1970.
@@kentclark6420 he's added to to the photo after death as the latest resident.
Smart of you to notice the steadiness of the camera during Danny's Big Wheel ride. I noticed something very different too when I saw the movie premiere in the theater. The Shining was the first movie to utilize the Steadicam. It uses a gyroscope to keep the image still. It's inventor Garrett Brown won an Oscar for its invention.
This was the fourth movie the steadycam was used for. One of the previous ones was Rocky.
The interesting thing about the Steadicam being used on The Shining is that it's barely used for what it was designed for.
Most of the movie is filmed in Steadicam, but much of the time the operator is acting like a tripod camera would. There's only a handful of scenes where it's used for what it was designed for...following Wendy to dreaming Jack, leading Danny out of the maze etc. There's a version of the film on dvd that has the Steadicam inventor, and cameraman for most of the film doing commentary, he supplies a lot of detail on it, how he adapted it to make it work like a tripod camera would.
Kubrick initially had one final scene which he decided to delete. It would have changed the story somewhat. It's Wendy and Danny recovering at a hospital after their ordeal, with a visit from Ullman. He tells them that they investigated the hotel and didn't find anything, not even the dead bodies. He suggests the extreme weather might have caused them to imagine things. Since Wendy and Danny have nowhere else to go, Ullman insists that they come live with him for a spell. He's got extra rooms and a maid in LA.
On the way out, Ullman tosses Danny the ball from room 237. Danny: 😨
WTF. How would that explain where Jack is then?
@@LanceJ. That's the least of the questions that scene opens up. We can assume that Jack and Halloran became part of the hotel (we still see Jack in the photo), but that doesn't explain why Ullman is unconcerned with the disappearance of his cook and the man he hired to watch Overlook.
My personal opinion is that Kubrick and his co-writer got carried away, and it was a good thing the scene got cut.
@@ink-cow It wouldn’t have been the least of Wendy’s concerns lol
@@LanceJ. Oh yeah, that's true. For all she knows he could still be on the loose somewhere tracking her down. She has no way of knowing he froze to death.
I never pass up watching The Shining reaction videos!! As much as everyone gets scared or creeped out by the same scene, it's worth it to watch over and over.
My favorite horror movies to recommend are these...
The Omen (1976) and the two sequels are very good.
The Changeling (1980)
Autopsy of Jane Doe (2016)
The Changeling doesn't get near enough love.
I would add these to your list
The Entity (1982 )
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005 )
I agree with you all of those are fantastic choices... I LOVED The Changeling. it's so underrated.
I love the Omen and the Changeling!
Lol seeing younger generations thinking parents didn’t beat their kids in that time and age. Dislocation is a bit much, but I swear I saw my life flash before my eyes when my pops would break out the belt 😂
We had a min-canoe paddle hanging on the wall as an intimidation. I don't recall my parents ever using it, we only got spankings and our mouths washed out with soap.
Please watch Doctor Sleep next, it’s really good and underrated sequel.
Definitely. I love that movie!
I was just about say that yeah I enjoyed it
It's not a Stanley Kubrick film, and that can make all the world of difference and it does.
It's great i came to the comment section just to say what you just did 🤣
@@grosbeak6130of course but it's still a fun movie
As someone thats been chased by a drunk man through the snow, with him slurring and screaming my name, the maze scene at the end with Jack screaming for Danny.... It's creepily perfect acting.
Yes the book and the movie are different but both hold up on their own iconic merits. There was a miniseries made that was true to the novel that is worth watching.
Being true to the novel did not make the Steven Weber TV miniseries better however. Nothing can really stand in the shadow of the 1980 Kubrick classic, no matter how much King disapproved.
@@SWLinPHX plus King only disproves of the movie because the character of Jack Torrence was based off of how King saw himself. Kubrick eliminated Jack's redemption arc of the story and committed him to being a monster at the end. Now this makes for a much more compelling horror movie, but it does require the sacrifice of a happier ending (where jack dies a good man). Still I'd probably dislike the movie too if my favorite character was changed from being a tragic hero to a straight villain. But eliminate that one personal aspect from the situation and who knows, King might have actually loved the movie.
Trivia for the day: That's wasn't snow. It was all salt. The hotel front was on a Soundstage and they brought in truckloads of salt. And notice the opening helicopter shot of the Overlook....there is no maze anywhere. You should watch some of the many documentaries about the odd things about this movie. You don't know how psychologically disturbing it is until you see how Kubrick plays with your mind with impossible architecture etc. Very subtle but disturbing.
Yes, thats what makes the horror of the overlook so much more depressing. Colorado county decided to keep the pass road open with tons of salt air dropped, but the plane went off course and it was deposited over the hotel and grounds. If it wasnt for the dodgy pilot, the roads would have been open and Jack's cabin fever cut short by partying skiers on holiday.
Ridley Scott also used The Shining's helicopter shots for Blade Runner. Kubrick always had a few thousand extra to share. haha Basically The Shining's intro is Balde Runner's outro in a way...depending on which ending you see
I think that's a big part of why the film is still being talked about today.
Its a film you can watch repeatedly and see something new each time...all of the so called continuity errors, the weird layout of the hotel, the colour shifts and reversals, it's all crafted meticulously to mess with your head on a not quite conscious level.
13:41 Jack had TOO MUCH FUN with this role 😂😳🫣 Great reaction to a great film!
Shelley Duvall had… not so much fun lol
@@derekdecker555 there’s no denying *that* 🤷🏾♂️😅💿 Danny had a marvelous time according to the DVD extras!
@@myfriendisaac I mean, Kubrick did get an incredible performance out of her. So there’s something to be said for mental and emotional torture I guess lol. Yeah I just read that Danny’s parents didn’t want him knowing it was a horror movie so the cast and crew made it seem to him like it was just a family drama 😂😂😂
Highly recommend watching the direct sequel *Doctor Sleep* that takes place in the present day when Danny is an adult. It’s amazing sequel/adaptation. Also, if you guys see Doctor Sleep you need to see the Director’s Cut.
Ditto!
This movie had a Sequel? Never knew that
Don't watch Doctor Sleep as a way to better understand Kubrick's The Shining. Different universes and frankly Dr. Sleep attempts to break the ambiguity and magic of Kubrick's version is blasphemy.
@@thezappa7373 Agreed. Kubrick made a masterpiece. Dr. Sleep is a flawed popcorn flick.
Everyone liked Doctor Sleep and maybe I need to watch it again because I didn’t like it. I was a bit confused with that movie. I think I need to re-watch it.
So here's something about this movie you should know and is interesting. Tony is actually Danny. Danny's name is Daniel Anthony Torrance. Danny is talking to his future self due to his shine ability. So older Danny, figured out a way to use his shine ability to travel back in time to warn his younger self about the hotel.
This seems to be a thing that sort of maybe possibly happens somehow. There are loads of people who say that they have memories of being in awful situations years ago and they encounter and are spoken to by an adult who looks vaguely familiar, and the adult chills them out or encourages them or assures them that while the situation might seem awful they WILL live through it. Then years later when they grow up, they recognized themselves in the mirror as the person that was helpful when they needed it most. One scientist who endured awful abuse as a little girl swears that she remembers a woman who she now recognizes as herself as someone who appeared to her and helped her get through it. She talks about this phenomena as 'time travel therapy,' the idea being that when she was a healthy adult and able to spare the effort she kind of sent help back through time to when she needed it as a little girl. It's not a stretch if one considers all the theories about how spacetime is not actually a linear thing as we experience it - a big if, but that idea is being batted around. She says she has no idea if any actual mental time travel is happening or if she as an adult is rewriting her memories as a coping mechanism so that rather than remembering being by herself and coping with the abuse all alone her brain healed the trauma by reimagining a friend who supported and helped her out. At the end of the day even if it's the latter if it helps a person heal, what difference does it make?
Fun to think about , anyway.
Interesting. Is that from the novel?
@@JeshuaSquirrel I believe so. I remember someone said in a comment on another The Shining reaction video that said it was in the book. I just googled it before finishing this comment and yes, it is from the book, towards the end. Stephen King put it in the mini-series version from what I googled. Though I haven't seen that version in a long time.
@JeshuaSquirrel yes.
The TV version of 'the Shining' from the 1990s shows this explicitly, with 'Tony' appearing floating in the air like an angel to Danny at the end.
King's novel 'Doctor Sleep' has adult Danny effectively travelling back to the Overlook at this earlier time, but there's no interaction with his earlier self.
- but then a 'Danny Torrance' exists in the offshoot of The Stand' as well, so...
She's going to be doing the cooking because he's going to be maintaining the entire hotel ...c'mon girls.
I known this is a serious, scary movie, but Jack telling Wendy to f-off "when he's working" as he explains it to her in that scene makes me LOL every time. The delivery, the hand gesture, the nonchalant way he dismisses her it just cracks me up every time.
The sequel of this Doctor Sleep is such a great sequel which is rare. It fleshes out the story more and is really really well acted and more disturbing in some ways.
That was a garbage movie. Just a shitty revenge story with some shallow characters who has x men powers. That movie shouldn't have been made, it was nothing but unnecessary violence against children.
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This movie is a classic for a reason. "Doctor Sleep" is a must see too, I really love the whole approach of bridging the "The Shinning" movie and the book together, it was so well done. It's not as creepy as this movie per say but it gets emotionally invested in the characters and the story. There is some scenes that are extremely hard to watch, one in particular that the actors shooting it had a difficult time with emotionally because the child actor performance was very realistic.
I just reacted to this. Seriously considering reading the book. I watched the documentary for Room 237. It helped it put an extra layer on it.
Oh guys please do Doctor Sleep, it’s actually super well done, and Ewan MacGregor and Rebecca Ferguson are fantastic in it.
It sucked. No scares at all.
Please please PLEASE, watch the Directors cut of Dr Sleep. I’d grade the theatrical version a 7.5, but the directors cut I’d grade 9.5. It’s such a great sequel to the Shining. Mike Flanagan is a wonderful horror director(Haunting of Hill House, Bly Manor, Midnight Mass).
@@johnbrowne2170 I bet you like The Conjuring films lol
@@Xervello The first one was OK, but I prefer The Babadook and The Witch as well as the original The Haunting.
@@johnbrowne2170 Dr. Sleep attempts to break the ambiguity and magic of Kubrick's The Shining is low IQ exposition and blasphemy.
I also request you guys to watch Hereditary (2018). It's one of the few modern-day horror movies that doesn't use cheap jump-scare tactics like the ones in the conjuring universe or any generic horror movie. It uses psychological imagination and creepy atmospheric built-up to let the fear creep in in the audience.
To be fair, the first Conjuring movie is a really solid horror movie as well, despite there still being alot of cheap jumpscares.
That may be true,
But none of its scares are iconic like the ones in the shining
"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" - H.P. Lovecraft
"Never explain anything" - H.P. Lovecraft
I always wondered how exactly Wendy explained this to the police when she got to town. She and Danny are uninjured but Jack is dead and has multiple injuries -including what could be considered a defensive wound on his hand. Not sure the "My husband was possessed by a Hotel" defense would fly!
She could just say Jack attacked them with the axe and she cut his hand with the knife in self-defense.
There was a deleted scene that took place in a hospital where Ullman tells Wendy that Jack’s body was never found.
The opening helicopter footage was shot on Going-to-the-Sun Road and it's in Montana, not Colorado.
The real hotel used for exteriors is the Timberline Lodge and it's in Oregon.
The interiors are modeled on The Awahanee Lodge in Southern California.
The real hotel that inspired King to write the book is The Stanley Hotel and it IS in Colorado and it IS allegedly haunted.
The sequel is DOCTOR SLEEP and it has a Director's Cut. Absolutely must-see.
There was originally a 2-minute coda that showed Wendy in the hospital getting a visit from Mr. Ullmann. They talk about what happened (apparently the maze has been searched but Jack's body hasn't been found) and then when he leaves, he tosses Danny the same tennis ball that rolled at him earlier in the film. Kubrick recalled all the prints about a month after release and cut them all off and destroyed them. To date, there's no known surviving footage, but people are still on the lookout for it.
I love this movie in such a different way now. But watching people watch it for the first time I forget about the surface plot that you start off with. At the same time, it's this movie that made me start thinking differently about movies and cinema in general. A simple search of "why did the shining end like that" opened the world of subtext and hidden meanings in so many movies. Kubrick was the master of tying pop and underground cinema together.
Good movie, good cast. But as others have mentioned, poor Shelley Duvall, the way she was treated on the set.
Yeah... It's even visible behind the scenes...
Kubrick made her do the stairway scene with the bat 127 times. So abusive.
@@JeshuaSquirrel So he also made Jack and the crew and himself do the stairway scene 127 times or did she just do it on her own?
@@JeshuaSquirrelThats not abusive. That's the job she's in.
It's very different than the book but the movie's definitely a classic. Nicholson's iconic
One of the few times when the movie is better than the book. Love King, but sorry dude, Kubrick hit it out of the ball park. One of the best movies ever made. Where King 'shines' for me is his little tales, lots of his short stories. Such a prolific mind of macabre and awesome plots. (skeleton crew, night shift, etc, oh oh the running man was amazing
@@fredfinksI prefer the movie also, even though Wendy was written as a character who had more personality in the book
One of my favorite movies ... the cinematography alone! And there are the excellent performances and of course the perfect setting! You gotta watch Doctor Sleep now! It's basically a sequel to The Shinging and excellent in its own right.
From your reactions you understood the movie very well! There's a LOT of subtext that goes deeper though. Thanks for watching my favorite movie!
Yep! However one thing they are clueless about and zero experience with is...cold winter weather. They seem to think that "a thick sweater" will defeat all kinds of wintery weather.
The reason Danny (or his mother) could not hide outside ...is that they would succumb to the weather pretty quickly. And it is central to the plot and reason of the movie - once your there - you are stuck there until spring.
@@jarls5890 to be fair everyone seems to miss that, they will inevitably say "why is he going back inside??"
Even people I watch it with will say it. I think they're so invested in the tension they forget common sense. Which, in that case, the movie is working very well!
Just a fun fact, the guy interviewing Jack for the job is Barry Nelson, the very first James Bond on film in a live performance of Casino Royale back in the late 50's.
It's very easy to unintentionally/accidentally dislocate a toddlers shoulder like my mom did to me when I was young 😅 I was a nightmare as a kid...! My mom felt terrible..... The doctor assured her that it was more common than she thinks. I'm pretty sure I was just trying to avoid going to bed at that time. But it can happen when trying to protect your child too. For example, I used to always figure out how to unlock the door and run naked in the street lol...
Yeah my mom did that to my sister while lifting her up onto the porch. The child's own body weight can dislocate their shoulder. I never knew the story but when I got older and started having my own kids my mom would scream "Dont lift 'em by one arm!" and I was like, "chill, Mom", and she then told me the story.
Sounds like you needed to be 'corrected' . . .
@@patricktilton5377 oh I got corrected plenty of times...! 🤣
LOL "like a horror movie trope" . This invented that trope.
Tuesday scares everyone. We all shine on...
Kubrick purposefully filmed scenes in such a way that weren't physically possible. He gives viewers a rough layout of the interconnected hallways and where they lead, then filmed all of it in different locations that the viewers knew subconsciously shouldn't be there. Hallways that should turn one way now turn the other, rooms that should be located in a certain space now have hallways going straight through them as if the room didn't exist, etc. This subconsciously creates a sense of disorientation that the characters are also feeling. There's a documentary called "Room 237" that covers some of that.
The hotel that inspired Stephen King to write The Shining was the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. (It was used for the Overlook Hotel in the 1997 TV mini-series).
But nothing in the Kubrick film was shot in Colorado.
Nearly the entire film was shot on soundstages and facades in England! The Overlook exterior was modeled after the Timberline Lodge on Mount Hood in Oregon (about 52 miles from the Portland airport!). Some shots were filmed at the Timberline but none of the actors were ever there!
The opening shots of Jack driving to the hotel were shot in Montana. The mountain roads there were far more beautiful and photogenic than anything they found in Colorado.
So...none of this movie was done in Colorado!
The shots of the real Timberline Lodge in Colorado, that are in 'The Shining', plus all the opening sequence of Jack driving to the Overlook, and several shots of the Overlook showing winter approaching are all, by necessity of the Timberline's location, shot in Colorado.
The exterior of the Overlook, modelled on the Timberline lodge, were shot outdoors in England, using a location that has been seen in many movies.
In 'Doctor Who: Dalek Invasion of Earth, 2150 AD', the 'mine' set has a slope in the right-hand background that leads up to the edge of a reservoir, creating a horizon line, this is the same slope that Wendy and Danny travel up when escaping the Overlook at the end of The Shining.
This film studio also has a London street set that has appeared in many movies and TV series (the Sherlock Holmes series starring Jeremy Brett, for example), and this area was also re-dressed as Gotham City for the first Tim Burton Batman film.
@@stevetheduck1425 the Timberline Lodge is in Oregon. I've stayed there.
The "Highway to the Sun" in the driving scenes were in Montana.
Nothing was shot in Colorado.
@@stevetheduck1425 The opening scene of Jack driving to the Overlook is actually Going to the Sun Road in Glacier National Park in Montana. I have driven that exact same road.
Jack: "just a problem with the old sperm bank upstairs" Steph: "his child?" wtf lol
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The hotel exterior was Timberline Lodge on Mt Hood, Oregon.
As a child of abuse, The Shining's true terror works without any of the supernatural elements. A young kid, smart enough to understand both his parents as people, trapped with an abusive Father and an incompetent Mother. That's terror.
Update: You're the first reactors to understand the ending, lol. Grats!
Bro Stanley Kubrick was a crazy genius
There is an interesting video on TH-cam that reveals that on a number of occasions in the film, Jack Nicholson looks directly into the camera. I had never noticed it before, but it's pretty clear when you slow things down and it's more than just an actors eyes naturally moving into the camera's pov. I don't know if it was a choice by Kubrick or Nicholson, but it's definitely there. I wouldn't call it subliminal, but once you notice it, it becomes even more creepy because it's as if Jack Torrance is looking at YOU
Or its a poxy actor forgetting the first rule of camera technique is not to look down the bottle lol
Yay! ❤ If you like Ewan McGregor and Rebecca Ferguson, I suggest "Doctor Sleep" in which Ewan is and adult Danny.
The bartender was in the movie " Blade Runner " 🤙
The story is SET in Colorado, but filmed in Oregon.
20:40 that was Jack's ball, from earlier
It takes less force than you think to dislocate a joint. I once managed to dislocate one when I slipped on a water slide.
This is one of my top 5 favorite movies ever. Definitely my fav horror movie to date. It's just a masterpiece.
Achara, since you said you were fascinated by all of the supernatural "shine" talk, then Doctor Sleep is an absolute must watch for you and Steph. Because the film is essentially a deep dive into that aspect of this film. But it must be the director's cut, which is far better than the theatrical cut. For what it's worth, I'm one who tends to dislike remakes and sequels to classic horror films, but Doctor Sleep blew me away. I went in expecting to not like it, and ended up enjoying it as much as I did The Shining, which I'm a hardcore fan of. As added incentive, it's directed by Mike Flanagan, who made The Haunting of Hill House/Bly Manor and Midnight Mass.
The opening mountain shots were taken at Glacier National Park in Montana.
Great reaction as always ladies , this has got to be one of if not the scariest film I have ever watched from the opening panning shot across the landscape to the super creepy music playing this really sets the tone for the rest of the movie ( and like you pointed out no drones back then so the opening shot would have been from a helicopter ) everything in The Shining works so well and adds to the growing sense of unease and dread love the scenes of Danny riding his bike around the hotel especially the sound going from carpet to wood floor . All the performances are fantastic Jack does unhinged so so well ( you can see why he got the Joker role ) Shelley Duvall gives a great performance and does scared so well , Danny Lloyd is great , his Tony voice is so unsettling and I have to give a special mention to the late Philip Stone as Grady who is incredibly creepy , Mr Stone lived near me when I lived in London years ago and was a local celebrity having had a lot of supporting roles over the years as the British Captain Blumburtt in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom , he was the Priest that marries Ming and Dale in 1980s Flash Gordon and he was also the incredibly creepy Mr Finch in a touch of Frost in 1997 . Apparently Stephen King does not like this adaptation of his work but The Shining along with Misery has to be one of the best adaptations made .
Everyone knows the image of Jack's face saying " here's Johnny " but in the context of the film it is so scary ,by the way the axe he uses was not a prop it was a real fireman's axe . My take on the end is that all the ghosts of the Overlooks victims are coming out and that Jack being in the photo shows the Hotel has claimed another soul , like you said Achara the Hotel is almost alive which is another popular theory .
There is a sequel called Dr Sleep which stars Ewan McGregor as a grown up Danny who is still troubled by visions , I have not seen it but can't imagine it will be anywhere near as effective as The Shining .
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9:27 Steph's disappointed face
19:38 Achara saying "your other arm is going to get dislocated." We need more reactions from these two!
I am sure it's been mentioned, but the exterior of the hotel is the timberline lodge on mount hood in Oregon.
Loving the Achara and Stef reaction combo, ESPECIALLY horror movies, really great reaction. Hope you guys react to Doctor Sleep. Different from this movie, but it was interesting. Anyway, hope to see more reactions from both of you!
Jack Nicholson was a volunteer fire fighter at one time.
They had to get a thicker door because he kept tearing through the door like it was paper. Lol
I have never seen the Shining but know about it. I finally get to watch it with yall!
Steadicam with a low mounted bracket inch above the floor mounted on a left over wheelchair from the movie "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" is why the tracking is so smooth.
The ignorance is hilarious! The channel is fun and ty for the reactions.
The movie interiors were shot in a soundstage in England, the exterior was filmed in Oregon at Timberline Lodge.The interior was basically inspired by the Ahwahnee hotel in Yosemite National Park.
The hotel is the Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood, Oregon. The interior was a sound stage in England. The scenes running around the snow and maze were also shot on the sound stage in England.
One of the best unsettling soundtrack ever.
A little fun fact. The guy sitting next to Jack played the priest in the Titantic when the ship was sinking. As Jack (Leonardo DiCaprio) was running past him with Rose and said to run a little faster to the shadow of death or something similar to that 😂
That is like the best reaction to the Twins in the Hall (and Danny) that I have ever seen in nearly 200 watches since 1981. Kudos to you 2.😃
I was pretty much traumatized by the scene when I first saw it as a child.
You have watched The Shimimg nearly 200 times? 😮
I have watched it more tham 5 times so far. Always something new to discover
The shining is a classic
I've heard you both mention "End Credit Scenes" in a few different movies I've watched with you so far. These scenes started in the mid/late 1960s and were VERY few and far in between. It didn't start becoming a popular part of movies until the 2000s. Just wanted to give you a heads up that the majority of the older movies that you are watching will not have them :-)
When I watched this movie for the first time actually I found it funny because previously I watched that Simpsons treehouse of horror episode as a kid and then I was able to compare it almost frame by frame and it's almost the same, so the bits that were supposed to scare me turned out to be really funny thanks to the Simpsons..
No beer and no TV makes homer go.. but I don't know the rest.. 😂😂😂
Yeah girls, is doctor sleep
"Go crazy?"
"DON'T MIND IF I DO!!"
something something.
"That's strange. Usually the blood gets off on the second floor."
'The Shinning'...
'Don't you mean the Shining?'
'no...we don't wanna get sued😁'
15:24 the camera is being operated by the inventor of the steadicam! It's a device that uses weights to keep the camera still. This movie is famous for being the first major instance of its use. It's a landmark in cinema technique.
Philip Stone's very subtle make-up giving him a skeletal look was awesome.
This was the first movie that used a Steady-Cam. That's why Danny's riding is so smooth.
One of or if not the first movie to use the steadi-cam. Used when following Danny on his hot wheels or in maze.
You girls crushed this, super entertaining reaction for my favorite horror film.
The opening scenes are filmed along the Columbia Gorge, on the Washington, Oregon border. The hotel itself is on Mt. Hood, in Oregon. The inside, I believe was filmed in England. And, fun fact... Much of the snow used in the maze scene was fake snow, borrowed from the Star Wars filming of the Empire Strikes Back.
I’ve watched a number of these reactions to the Shining and I have to say yours were the best reactions and also great insights for a first time viewing of a pretty mysterious film. Great job!
Lodge shown is on Mount Hood next to Portland OR. Timberline Lodge. No hedge maze. That was just built for movie. They can get 20 ft of snow
Obra de arte! Una película de culto. Grande Jack Nicholson
A rich elderly lady lived most of her life at the Overlook. She was there every May through October, from the 1930s on. She was gorgeous....But when she grew old, one day her longtime Boytoy/Companion left her.....for a younger woman. Despondent and broken, the old lady drowned herself in her bathtub......in Room 237. She.......wasn't found for awhile. Both naked ghosts are the same person
When Mommy looked in the mirror she saw that RED RUM was actually the backward spelling of MURDER! Grady told him that he had always ben the host! That is established by that picture with him in it.👱♀👱♀👗👗👠👠❤❤
The sequel is called Dr Sleep with Ewan Mcgregor playing Danny as an adult. xx
Hotel exterior was shot in Oregon, Mt Hood, book was written at and based off the hotel in Estes Park Co. The TV version showed the Colorado Hotel...The Stanley
Great reaction to a classic! This movie was mostly shot in the UK on rebuilt sets. The exterior of the Timberline Lodge in Mt. Hood ,Oregon was used for the hotel., and the "helicopter shot" you spoke of in the opening shot was Wild Goose Island in Glacier National Park , Montana. The actual story for The Shining was inspired by a hotel in Colorodo, The Stanley Hotel. The novel and movie were definately both set in Colorodo though. If you can find the 1990s miniseries of The Shining give it a go, as it was filmed at The Stanley Hotel in CO. Also check out the movie "Dr. Sleep" , as it is a sequel to The Shining. Ewan MacGregor plays a grown up Danny🙂
The outside shots of the Hotel is a lodge on Mt Hood in Oregon. And the inside shots are somewhere in the UK.
@@andersd8956 ....I had the DVD of this movie about twenty years ago, and everything was in the credits. I just don't remember the names. LOL
The Shining is absolutely the best horror movie of all time. Most of the rooms are not physically possible, parts of furniture come and go frame after frame, all three of characters have mental problems. Their acting is outstanding
When I was a child I could tell what had happened to my father during his day. It scared the hell out of my mother and she discouraged my stories. I lost the power.
Something I never noticed before: Jack talks to Delbert Grady and says 'I saw your picture in the paper, you...'
This means Delbert and Charles Grady look alike, addiing to the business of the man in the 4th July Ball photo looking just like Jack Torrance (and perhaps why D Grady recognises 'Mr. Torrance.')
My theory on that is that they are the same person but the hotel has warped Charles Grady into a different persona named Delbert Grady. Delbert Grady is Charles Grady he just no longer knows he was once Charles Grady and the hotel has rewritten his memory to make him think he is this being named Delbert Grady. The hotel did a similar thing with his daughters changing them from an eight year old and a ten year old and remaking them as identical twins.
The Shining was one of the first films to utilize what was then a new innovation in film: the Steadicam.
First of all you two together make a wonderful pair for this reaction channel I hope that you two continue with this. When I first saw this movie it kind of let me down a bit and I think it was because of the directors choices (I know he's a star) but as time went by I learned to appreciate this movie much more simply because of this wonderful cast of actors, in my opinion they make this movie the classic that it is seen to be. I will also tell you that they made a television version of this movie and I bought it years ago as a two disc dvd set (its currently lost in my room) and you would be surprised as I was as to how good and legitimately scary that tv movie turned out to be..
The photo where Jack Nicholson is in, he is holding his hands Right one up Left one down, is As Above So Below.
'How they keep it so steady?' This is not the first film using a device called the Steadicam, but Kubrick used it to excellent effect.
To see what a Steadicam does, see 'Aliens' the two soldiers who carry the larger guns strapped to their bodies, are using guns mounted on a Steadicam harness.
This was seriously studied as a way to make machine gunners more accurate, but no-one wanted to stand up on a battlefield in a firefight, making this idea effectively useless.
You find out in the book "Tony" is his own future self communicating from across time.
*"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."*
This is the movie that led to Jack Nicklaus being offered the job as the joker in Batman 1989
Well that would have been different. I assume the final battle would have taken place at Gotham City Country Club.
The hotel that this movie is based off of is the Stanley Hotel in Colorado. The book is based off the hotel. I toured the hotel and it is very eerie. It gets really cold suddenly and randomly in parts of the hotel. The room that Stephen King stayed in, 217, was cold right outside the door, then immediately got warm. If I’m correct, Stephen King claimed he would never speak about what happened in room 217.
I like that you freak out about the carpet and it looks just like the back wall in your studio!😂
“Girls, now is not a good time!”
“What in Zeus’ tarnation??”
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