One thing I've noticed is launching from an engine off (stop start) at a junction or roundabout is so much more immediate in a BEV or Hybrid, than in an ICE, which needs to wake up. Much safer if it's a blind junction. Where in an ice I've often had to stop before the launch got underway when a vehicle arrived on the scene..
honestly, I don't think heavy vehicles should be encouraged in any way shape or form; please don't eulogies big heavy EV tanks like the new maccan, i5n plus all other plethora of 2.2-2.5 tons vehicles...., they are not sports cars and having a lot of power and instant torque doesn't make them sports cars. sorry for posting two comments but, they weren't related and so, I believed this topic should be treated separately. edit. sports care should be about "simplify and add lightness" and not about 2.5 tons SUVs that go from 0-60 in 3 seconds.
Make an ev fun to drive. Put and ICE in it reduction the weight by 60% and tune the chassis for a slightly over steer bias. Job done. Keep up the epic work gents fab content on Web and app.
I had several Renault Zoe 135 GT company cars a couple of yrs ago. It was just a giggle leaving BM's etc coming up the M621 out of Leeds on an evening after work. Instant torque and away. It actually wasn't too shabby in the Twisties when being hustled either. Yep it would ultimately go into understeer when really pushed but for a shopping cart who cares..Great little car as a daily city runabout tbh...The new R5 will sell like hotcakes. Can't wait to go test-drive one👍👍
I cant help but think jaguar is going to lose a truly enourmous amount of money going EV only. There's no privste demand for e-slop in the UK , and i imagine the personal contribution cost on the fleet side will be steep too.
Companies need ESG investment to stay afloat. That's why they sell e-slop and it's why they do everything else they are doing which seemingly doesn't make sense from a market perspective.
I was quite nervous about two Brits talking American politics but you handled it well. It is funny how the world cries out for the US to diminish on the stage and stay out of everyone's business (and there's a pretty loud cry for that in the UK) but when the US says they want to adopt a isolationist stance both militarily and financially suddenly it's a bad thing. I'd love for us to pull out of being the world policeman and let Europe handle their own business, we will be just fine.
EVs now are good enough in price but the only problem left for them to become more mainstream is the charging infrastructure. Charging infrastructure sucks because the government is too slow to make standards or give guidance to the industry and EV charger makers are too greedy to accept sharing customer information.
Thinking of Jag's All Electric future, I'm reminded of a time when 1 & 2 year old chrome MGBs were more desirable than the new rubber bumpered B, and that went on for years. Jaguar needs to make a compelling set of cars, because people can just buy used F-Types. They should focus on 2+2 sports, because geezers don't use back seats anyway for this 3rd car.
Lucid is owned by the Saudi Wealth Fund or whatever it's called. They'll only have more money to do whatever the hell they want with Lucid over the next 4 years. Rivian has carved its niche out quite well. Scout is booting up like a startup, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes, but it's including from the start a "range extender" optional. That's going to go over very well, I feel.
So Alpine A290 still not proper EV hothach, will not replace my pocket rocket Hyundai i20N 😅😂❤. Can't wait to see if Hyundai will do production version of RN24 ❤❤❤. And what happened to Jaguar they lost it😢😢😢. Jaguar should be niche manufacturer making just 2 models: first V8 sports 2 seater coupe, and 5 series sports saloon and estate competition ❤❤❤. Great podcast episode keep it up 🤟💪
Andrew, your comments on Trump were highly political. Tariffs have historically been very damaging. You are right. The past 30 years of free trade has made the world and the poor vastly richer, and also revealed big problems with it that few anticipated and not a single one of us saw clearly. Some in the west have been disadvantaged. We have made China rich, but China has not become our friend as anticipated by most of the western political divides. Today, America could not build all the planes, boats and equipment that it mobilised to do, in order to fight World War 2, without importing the components from China. If it was in its interests China could refuse to do so, and America would have to rebuild its infrastructure first. You used the earlier words of Elon Musk to discredit Trump in an overtly political way. You did not mention at the same time an explanation of the bloodbath smear against Trump, which in reality was an description of an economic bloodbath which he feels would result from China taking advantage of poor socialist disaster zones such as Mexico in this case and countries in Africa, to manufacture for export to the USA because China's own working class is evolving into a wealthy middle class and cannot compete on labour cost against manufacturing in the USA as effectively as before. This was not for-seen twenty years ago, and while American companies can arguably do the same, it is a real problem with political issues attached such as China building alliances and taking control of large and politically relevant but weak countries. At this stage the astute among us, i.e. nearly everyone, can understand and fully decode Trumps use of language and those of who pretend to take Trumps simple statements such as "I love Tariffs" literally and pretend not to know of or understand his underlying sophisticated argument are guilty of terminal inexactitude. Personally I trust Trump to handle this real political dilemma with Tariffs as a business deal tool in the immediate period in the absence of a theoretical solution and a political imposition of such, but I do not trust JD Vance on the same issue, for while he is a very fine man, this is one area where I sense he holds old fashioned socialist positions. Going on I certainly do not trust the major parties with Tariffs, and I would for-see many of the same problems you see including the production of rubbish products.We should not have Tariffs as a rule. However, to act as if the situation with regards to free trade in the world is as simple as we thought twenty years ago, is not a good idea. Free trade between the civilised west of twenty five years ago is great, but free trade with superpowers and by extension all the volatile and weak countries for which there is a battle for control of, is fraught with political ramifications we had no way to envision but are now evident. Trump to his credit, while presented falsely as a dangerous blustering simpleton by the left, has had a good and original understanding of this for a long time and he is developing such. There has been an undercurrent of left wing cultural positions advanced by you Andrew, as good and the accepted norm. You have used Lewis Hamilton as an example of someone who has adopted and expressed such positions. Hamilton has supported BLM, political vegetarianism and climate left wingery (while being a racing driver). After criticising his nephew for wearing a dress, he was politically targeted (cancel culture) , resulting in him apologising, espousing left wing views and wearing a skirt in GQ. You have said in the podcast you admire him as much for his extremely good moral character as by his talent and success. I'm your listener and reader and I strong disagree with all Hamilton's positions. Are you saying he is good and I'm bad? You have said that our culture seems to have accepted that farming is animal cruelty and that we shouldn't use animal products in finished products such as cars. You seem to live in a rural area and you must know that our culture has not accepted this, only the left have, and I say that as an animal lover with twenty five cats over many years, who has wonderful farms in the family, and who has never felt so guilty as when encountering a family of turkeys emerging from their house on Christmas Eve morning, having a dip in their pool and then all following their vocal lead turkey who was clearly instructing the other turkeys to all follow him into their field as I was a danger, and watching them go like a little organised civilised community. Having witnessed sheep and cattle (and I do understand the animals ending) live almost idyllic lives under the care, yes care of my uncles since I was a child on the farms at weekends as an urban dweller myself, as a child following the visiting vet for whole afternoons inspecting and tending and treating, watching the cattle who have been inside for the whole of winter anticipate springtime freedom and run and jump in pure delight as the doors are opened and they are free to roam and graze in their fields. Nothing is perfect in this world, but in many ways the animals have a good deal, not one they made, one that has historically been thought of as a good thing culturally in the west and one that the political left has decided is bad and untenable and causing the end of the world too just for good measure. You may think we have turned against it, but we haven't, we have just been divided deliberately. At least half of us think the envisioned world with no farm animals is nihilistic and is a political position held nearly always conjunction with human over population, climate change, abortion and now euthanasia which is working out so wonderfully in Canada. You clearly don't like Trump; you tweeted that Trump should "get out" now when he was making his loud complaints about the previous election. You also followed that with anti Trump political tweet conversation with your daughter. Trump did engage in loud complaints that the election was improper, as did Al Gore and Hillary Clinton previously. He also fully participated in the peaceful transfer of power. He was wrong about contribution the machines made in the immediate aftermath, however he was fundamentally right that something was wrong and it is good that he made a point on behalf of the people who voted for him, given that time has proven that the fifty one intelligence officials lied that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation and got permission from the CIA to do so. The FBI have testified in court it was known to be real in 2019, and that the FBI and CIA told the sitting president it was real at the beginning. Hillary Clinton has been fined and Christopher Steele discredited for creating the false underlying Russia link. Democrat voters were 66 million in 2012 and 2016, but 81 million in 2020 and returned 67 million in 2024. No one can work out where the FIFTEEN MILLION postal voters have gone. They haven't gone to Trump; his vote has remained consistent. This is not proof, but clear evidence that Trumps position that the postal voting was fraudulent has a STRONG basis. The Democrats sought and obtained the election silencing of the Hunter Biden story by Miranda Devine with regard to the Laptop and money from foreign countries, at once both strong arming and receiving the friendly assistance of the tech companies. Social media company Parler was effectively blocked from access to the internet. The mainstream media acted in dishonest concert with the Democratic party best articulated by Mollie Hemingway in the book "Rigged". And of course there is much more ....... Over the past thirteen to fourteen years the left have moved massively to the left. The right have maintained or moved ever so slightly to the right. The centre has not moved with agreement. The centre is disputed. Therefore we have a culture war and everything is now political, especially so Cars. So you have to talk about politics. However, you can't say you are non political about Trump when you tweet Trump should get out when he is still president and is not saying he will not comply with the rules. I always like to keep politics out of interests and with people. However, everything is so disputed and political today that it cannot be honestly avoided. All you have to do is be clear about the things you have said about Trump in public and say you are not impartial, because what you did in this podcast was a veiled attack on Trump, and therefore on your listeners who are in the half of the west who are centre right. I stopped listening to Richard Porter and Jonny Smith on Smith and Sniff, because Richard Porter is a lefty and Jonny just happily agrees with him, and while I could handle the subtle barbs of moral superiority, I had enough when he effectively said half of his listeners were cave dwellers of dubious moral character and intolerable to him. This Left imposed division means that I have stopped consuming many things. I will not watch a Hollywood movie anymore. I will not buy Ben & Jerry's. I will not watch the BBC. I have been sensing your moral superiority and therefore distaste for half of your listeners for some time and I'm close to stopping listening and reading, even though since I was a child, thirty years ago one of my great pleasures was on a Wednesday escaping from school with my limited money to see if Autocar had something wonderful like a Ferrari, a Lamborghini or a BMW that could justify my purchase because I couldn't buy them all. I have thousands of them and have very positive feelings about you, your writing and I still spend half an hour selecting too many of them and reading them into the night. All you have to do is NOT say you are politically impartial, because you are not, and make it clear that although you have a political position on the left that you do not think half your listeners have unacceptable positions and opinions.
@@inthefieldunderthesky There must be a reason why no CEOs sell their stock to generate cash for the company. Just look at Rivian and Lucid or any company that is in trouble. When Elon buy Twitter he even needs loan from banks with interest rate higher than normal.
@@inthefieldunderthesky Andrew didn't make that comment about Elon Musk. He said Musk commented about Trump. Elon Musk has created wealth. The $56B represents an almost unprecedented business success; what he did is almost impossible. Your resentment is of grounded in left wing economics which don't work. People with your ideas make society poor. Elon Musk employs and has created wealth.He could roll around in money for the rest of his days and still have most of the $56B to invest. Elon Musk navigated Tesla through difficult times and he didn't do it by being an employee charity. As a result he has created wealth. And yet you begrudge that about him .......... Andrew was being unfair to Elon Musk calling him an Arch Democrat in an extremely derisory tone. Andrew is saying that Elon moved from left to right over some years to manipulate and be part of a future government that would introduce tariffs that would benefit him in the USA. However, he sells almost as many Tesla's in China and he does in the USA and Canada together. You may have seen a few in the UK too. Andrew is suggesting Elon Musk is an amoral human calculating machine with no humanity. He derides him completely which is what the left has done, he was their hero, now he is their enemy. Ridiculous. I'm not a big fan of Tesla. I think Elon Musks early online payment software and the consequential success of Paypal was a massive achievement especially for a young man, and I highly approve that he spent some of his money on a McLaren F1. Wonder where he got the Tesla power to weight ratio idea from? Pity about the weight part...... His business success with Tesla has been stellar and there is a lot to admire, but I do not see him as a visionary in this field. In his space endeavours perhaps though ...... He has not moved the car on one bit; he has applied todays car engineering to the electric cars of 100 years ago and added a lot of current computing technology all of which is probing in a direction rather than definitively leading and he was able to do it because of the batteries being mass produced for phones and laptops. The direction is autonomous control. Personal freedom is essential and the car you drive is a wonderful expression of that. Thats why the left hate the car and one of the reasons they loved Elon. Making cars autonomous solves a problem that doesn't exist and potentially creates problems, practical and political. Andrew may have a point that Elon might try to use the culture and politics of our time to benefit his business at the cost of our culture, damage to our idea of the car and human individuality. However, I am interested that Andrew sees a problem now, but not in what Elon did to create and build Tesla. Arguably, he took a cultural "end of the world is nigh" moment, regardless of whether he really believes the CO2 stuff, to sell a project; using the battery technology of the moment to create an electrified Lotus Elise in California for a newly wealthy tech community in California which was always interested in the tech product of the moment. The tech community, nearly all young, geeky and politically unsophisticated fell into the left wing cultural movement, where they all got to lead the world with their work and be very very nice at the same time. They became a tribal group entwined with politics in a state as big as a country where it seemed wealth creation would continue forever and the left wouldn't start do destroy it like they always do. Policy made a god of the earth and electric cars became the religious symbol of their virtue. I think Elon quite cynically played this situation like a piano to create a top down support for his idea of a car, his company and then worked politically to expand that vision and the resulting policy throughout the west that dictated the end of any other form of car other than his. This is why he seemed like, to use Andrews phrase an "Arch Democrat". This makes one type of good businessman but not a good man. It's unfair of Andrew to deride Elon Musk as cynically switching sides for the benefit of his company. Musk has gone on a journey from left to right and seems to have learned the value of freedom, and individuality. His relationship with the left became contentious. The young tech geeks in California became critical of him as they tribally gathered together to express their virtue. (in the recent election it seems many of the males among them moved to vote Trump ..... Interesting) Elon stood alone for a while, which is brave, at times he battled for his financial survival with few friends on a cultural level. He slowly gained approval from the right who didn't trust him, but he didn't seek it. In standing against the lefts attack on free speech by buying Twitter he may have played as big a role as Trump in stopping the left from destroying America. Time may prove Elon Musk to be a truly great man. One of the cultural issues of our time effected Elon Musk, his son and his family and he has said it was important in his political journey. He says he has lost his son Xavier to the authoritarian movement of the left. Andrew both affirmed Lewis Hamilton's support of this ideology and political imposition of it, but didn't mention Elon Musks direct negative experience of it or take into account all the legal cases against the Tavistock NHS gender clinic in the UK. He leaves it out of his reasoning for the reason Elon Musk has moved to the right and has ended up in government. Its just a cynical tariff move.
Most EV vehicles are disposable goods but if they can be even a little bit more involving that's great as a daily. I have a tvr as a weekend car and ashortly a cupra born vz as my daily
The Audi S ETron GT is basically the previous model RS E Tron GT power wise...The problem i have with people whinging about EV's not being fun to drive is they seem to live in a driving Utopia that just doesn't exist anymore. I live in Yorkshire and we have some sublime driving roads, or used to. They are mostly crumbling into oblivion and are far too busy with bloody Cyclists and dawdling traffic. Look at the Northwest 500 as an example. There are more bloody Motorhomes on it than cars or motorbikes. Not to mention Plod with a mobile cameravan waiting at every opportunity to bloody zap you...The fun of driving has long since gone im aftaid to say..Sad days indeed...
Interesting that you bring up a Fiesta ST as the "fun" reference, because the reason this car is fun is precisely because it has a poor physics architecture! The reason the "back comes around" in a a ST is precisely because with all the mass in the front, it MUST push lateral loads rewards when cornering to avoid overloading the front axle (see VW products for ref....) and as a result the "lift and bung" is indeed both avaiable and fun. The A290 has a much much better mass distribution, so it actually carries it's cornering loads in a much more neutral fashion, think Cayman vs 911, so as a direct result of this core competance it is "less fun". This is why imo, the most fun BEV you can drive is actually the BMW i3s, because it has very modest grip, and it is rwd, so you can now use TORQUE (something it has plenty of) rather than MOMENTUM to access the fun 🙂
Shame Ford in all it's infinite wisdom killed off the Fiesta and will no doubt bastardise it's name with yet another fecking fugly SUV type bag of shite...
Trump is a fool, end of..If he puts tariffs on other countries products what the feck do you think those same countries are going to do??? When you yanks are all on the dole claiming and not working because no one is buying your goods let's see your thoughts on the idiot then😂😂😂
Solid state batteries will increase the range to well over 500 miles. Not to mention how many people will do a 5 HR driving stint in one go. Don't you ever need the loo, food or drink?. Not to mention taking a break will stop you being a fecking liability on the roads when you're nodding off at the wheel......
I feel like E.V is optimising for inefficiencies, hydrogens by-product is Water, and it takes Water to Manufacture hydrogen, talk about Recyclable, don't add tons to a vehicle, EVS destroys roads just by the Heft 2.4 tonne Saddens and Hatchbacks has the world gone stupid, a full-fat Range Rover Weighed 2.4 tonnes in 2012 now M5's Weighs 2.4 tonnes and people say they are good car, good how overprices laptops on wheels, why buy a new car anymore if a lightweight diesel is more efficient then any EV, in fact, put a new M5 V8 in an old M5 Body wala more Efficiency.
I take it you don't realise just how much electricity it takes to produce Hydrogen. Just use the same electricity to power cars. Simple. Not to mention transporting it in heavy tankers to fuel filling stations up n down the land. Hydrogen just doesn't make sense...Wait till Solid state batteries start being introduced in the next 3-5 yrs they are the big BEV game changer.
Yes some of us enlightened people do. I hope your grandkids grow up being able to breath clean air due to the BEV takeover..I bet you've never even driven an EV???
the A290, beside being a mockery of Alpine's name, core values and legacy, is a very sub par car; the normal r5 is a better purchase from all povs. If you actually are a real driving enthusiast, you should steer away clear from this junk type of cars, SUV-o EV hatchbacks pretending to be enthusiast's cars. Spoiler alert, they are not!(for start, there isn't a drive, a real drive on a good driving road in a gearless piece of garbage handling; that's the most important but there are tons of reasons for which this crap EV, taking the piss at the Alpine brand, isn't a driver's car!)
@@pauln0371 have you?, or we are wasting time?, just because you fail to realize what a mockery this ev is to the Alpine brand, doesn't mean it isn't. and I don't need to drive another EV; I have drove plenty to date...they are all similar type of garbage; there isn't such a thing as an electric driver's car, nor will ever be considering there are no gears and no ICE motor to stir up your soul.
Continuing the petition to put photos of the cars you are talking about on the screen above your table please!
I'm signing this petition for the 3rd time
Yess
@@tshegosepeng458 let’s keep the momentum going 😂
Photos of the cars you are discussing is essential. Why do you have that massive TV on the wall?
One thing I've noticed is launching from an engine off (stop start) at a junction or roundabout is so much more immediate in a BEV or Hybrid, than in an ICE, which needs to wake up. Much safer if it's a blind junction. Where in an ice I've often had to stop before the launch got underway when a vehicle arrived on the scene..
honestly, I don't think heavy vehicles should be encouraged in any way shape or form; please don't eulogies big heavy EV tanks like the new maccan, i5n plus all other plethora of 2.2-2.5 tons vehicles...., they are not sports cars and having a lot of power and instant torque doesn't make them sports cars.
sorry for posting two comments but, they weren't related and so, I believed this topic should be treated separately.
edit. sports care should be about "simplify and add lightness" and not about 2.5 tons SUVs that go from 0-60 in 3 seconds.
UK new taxes are insane!
It is the artificial Way of the world thing. Which is a bad wef thing.
Make an ev fun to drive. Put and ICE in it reduction the weight by 60% and tune the chassis for a slightly over steer bias.
Job done.
Keep up the epic work gents fab content on Web and app.
Porche Praising! Business as usual!
I had several Renault Zoe 135 GT company cars a couple of yrs ago. It was just a giggle leaving BM's etc coming up the M621 out of Leeds on an evening after work. Instant torque and away. It actually wasn't too shabby in the Twisties when being hustled either. Yep it would ultimately go into understeer when really pushed but for a shopping cart who cares..Great little car as a daily city runabout tbh...The new R5 will sell like hotcakes. Can't wait to go test-drive one👍👍
I cant help but think jaguar is going to lose a truly enourmous amount of money going EV only.
There's no privste demand for e-slop in the UK , and i imagine the personal contribution cost on the fleet side will be steep too.
Companies need ESG investment to stay afloat. That's why they sell e-slop and it's why they do everything else they are doing which seemingly doesn't make sense from a market perspective.
I take it you don't care about your grandkids health in the future then...
@pauln0371 your point being if we don't buy 2.5 tonne EVs my grandkids will be ill is absolutely nonsensical.
@@dandylion1987I'm not sure it has an enormous amount to lose..sadly
I think the new Twingo looks pretty sick too
I was quite nervous about two Brits talking American politics but you handled it well. It is funny how the world cries out for the US to diminish on the stage and stay out of everyone's business (and there's a pretty loud cry for that in the UK) but when the US says they want to adopt a isolationist stance both militarily and financially suddenly it's a bad thing. I'd love for us to pull out of being the world policeman and let Europe handle their own business, we will be just fine.
EVs now are good enough in price but the only problem left for them to become more mainstream is the charging infrastructure.
Charging infrastructure sucks because the government is too slow to make standards or give guidance to the industry and EV charger makers are too greedy to accept sharing customer information.
Thinking of Jag's All Electric future, I'm reminded of a time when 1 & 2 year old chrome MGBs were more desirable than the new rubber bumpered B, and that went on for years. Jaguar needs to make a compelling set of cars, because people can just buy used F-Types. They should focus on 2+2 sports, because geezers don't use back seats anyway for this 3rd car.
Lucid is owned by the Saudi Wealth Fund or whatever it's called. They'll only have more money to do whatever the hell they want with Lucid over the next 4 years. Rivian has carved its niche out quite well. Scout is booting up like a startup, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes, but it's including from the start a "range extender" optional. That's going to go over very well, I feel.
Great podcast but the audio is very low.
I still can't justify the premium for the A290 over the R5.
So Alpine A290 still not proper EV hothach, will not replace my pocket rocket Hyundai i20N 😅😂❤.
Can't wait to see if Hyundai will do production version of RN24 ❤❤❤.
And what happened to Jaguar they lost it😢😢😢.
Jaguar should be niche manufacturer making just 2 models: first V8 sports 2 seater coupe, and 5 series sports saloon and estate competition ❤❤❤.
Great podcast episode keep it up 🤟💪
Just seen the Jaguar teaser / reveal… Crikey
Andrew, your comments on Trump were highly political. Tariffs have historically been very damaging. You are right. The past 30 years of free trade has made the world and the poor vastly richer, and also revealed big problems with it that few anticipated and not a single one of us saw clearly. Some in the west have been disadvantaged. We have made China rich, but China has not become our friend as anticipated by most of the western political divides. Today, America could not build all the planes, boats and equipment that it mobilised to do, in order to fight World War 2, without importing the components from China. If it was in its interests China could refuse to do so, and America would have to rebuild its infrastructure first.
You used the earlier words of Elon Musk to discredit Trump in an overtly political way. You did not mention at the same time an explanation of the bloodbath smear against Trump, which in reality was an description of an economic bloodbath which he feels would result from China taking advantage of poor socialist disaster zones such as Mexico in this case and countries in Africa, to manufacture for export to the USA because China's own working class is evolving into a wealthy middle class and cannot compete on labour cost against manufacturing in the USA as effectively as before. This was not for-seen twenty years ago, and while American companies can arguably do the same, it is a real problem with political issues attached such as China building alliances and taking control of large and politically relevant but weak countries. At this stage the astute among us, i.e. nearly everyone, can understand and fully decode Trumps use of language and those of who pretend to take Trumps simple statements such as "I love Tariffs" literally and pretend not to know of or understand his underlying sophisticated argument are guilty of terminal inexactitude.
Personally I trust Trump to handle this real political dilemma with Tariffs as a business deal tool in the immediate period in the absence of a theoretical solution and a political imposition of such, but I do not trust JD Vance on the same issue, for while he is a very fine man, this is one area where I sense he holds old fashioned socialist positions. Going on I certainly do not trust the major parties with Tariffs, and I would for-see many of the same problems you see including the production of rubbish products.We should not have Tariffs as a rule. However, to act as if the situation with regards to free trade in the world is as simple as we thought twenty years ago, is not a good idea. Free trade between the civilised west of twenty five years ago is great, but free trade with superpowers and by extension all the volatile and weak countries for which there is a battle for control of, is fraught with political ramifications we had no way to envision but are now evident. Trump to his credit, while presented falsely as a dangerous blustering simpleton by the left, has had a good and original understanding of this for a long time and he is developing such.
There has been an undercurrent of left wing cultural positions advanced by you Andrew, as good and the accepted norm. You have used Lewis Hamilton as an example of someone who has adopted and expressed such positions. Hamilton has supported BLM, political vegetarianism and climate left wingery (while being a racing driver). After criticising his nephew for wearing a dress, he was politically targeted (cancel culture) , resulting in him apologising, espousing left wing views and wearing a skirt in GQ. You have said in the podcast you admire him as much for his extremely good moral character as by his talent and success. I'm your listener and reader and I strong disagree with all Hamilton's positions. Are you saying he is good and I'm bad?
You have said that our culture seems to have accepted that farming is animal cruelty and that we shouldn't use animal products in finished products such as cars. You seem to live in a rural area and you must know that our culture has not accepted this, only the left have, and I say that as an animal lover with twenty five cats over many years, who has wonderful farms in the family, and who has never felt so guilty as when encountering a family of turkeys emerging from their house on Christmas Eve morning, having a dip in their pool and then all following their vocal lead turkey who was clearly instructing the other turkeys to all follow him into their field as I was a danger, and watching them go like a little organised civilised community.
Having witnessed sheep and cattle (and I do understand the animals ending) live almost idyllic lives under the care, yes care of my uncles since I was a child on the farms at weekends as an urban dweller myself, as a child following the visiting vet for whole afternoons inspecting and tending and treating, watching the cattle who have been inside for the whole of winter anticipate springtime freedom and run and jump in pure delight as the doors are opened and they are free to roam and graze in their fields. Nothing is perfect in this world, but in many ways the animals have a good deal, not one they made, one that has historically been thought of as a good thing culturally in the west and one that the political left has decided is bad and untenable and causing the end of the world too just for good measure.
You may think we have turned against it, but we haven't, we have just been divided deliberately. At least half of us think the envisioned world with no farm animals is nihilistic and is a political position held nearly always conjunction with human over population, climate change, abortion and now euthanasia which is working out so wonderfully in Canada.
You clearly don't like Trump; you tweeted that Trump should "get out" now when he was making his loud complaints about the previous election. You also followed that with anti Trump political tweet conversation with your daughter. Trump did engage in loud complaints that the election was improper, as did Al Gore and Hillary Clinton previously. He also fully participated in the peaceful transfer of power.
He was wrong about contribution the machines made in the immediate aftermath, however he was fundamentally right that something was wrong and it is good that he made a point on behalf of the people who voted for him, given that time has proven that the fifty one intelligence officials lied that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation and got permission from the CIA to do so. The FBI have testified in court it was known to be real in 2019, and that the FBI and CIA told the sitting president it was real at the beginning. Hillary Clinton has been fined and Christopher Steele discredited for creating the false underlying Russia link. Democrat voters were 66 million in 2012 and 2016, but 81 million in 2020 and returned 67 million in 2024. No one can work out where the FIFTEEN MILLION postal voters have gone. They haven't gone to Trump; his vote has remained consistent. This is not proof, but clear evidence that Trumps position that the postal voting was fraudulent has a STRONG basis. The Democrats sought and obtained the election silencing of the Hunter Biden story by Miranda Devine with regard to the Laptop and money from foreign countries, at once both strong arming and receiving the friendly assistance of the tech companies. Social media company Parler was effectively blocked from access to the internet. The mainstream media acted in dishonest concert with the Democratic party best articulated by Mollie Hemingway in the book "Rigged". And of course there is much more .......
Over the past thirteen to fourteen years the left have moved massively to the left. The right have maintained or moved ever so slightly to the right. The centre has not moved with agreement. The centre is disputed. Therefore we have a culture war and everything is now political, especially so Cars. So you have to talk about politics. However, you can't say you are non political about Trump when you tweet Trump should get out when he is still president and is not saying he will not comply with the rules. I always like to keep politics out of interests and with people. However, everything is so disputed and political today that it cannot be honestly avoided. All you have to do is be clear about the things you have said about Trump in public and say you are not impartial, because what you did in this podcast was a veiled attack on Trump, and therefore on your listeners who are in the half of the west who are centre right.
I stopped listening to Richard Porter and Jonny Smith on Smith and Sniff, because Richard Porter is a lefty and Jonny just happily agrees with him, and while I could handle the subtle barbs of moral superiority, I had enough when he effectively said half of his listeners were cave dwellers of dubious moral character and intolerable to him. This Left imposed division means that I have stopped consuming many things. I will not watch a Hollywood movie anymore. I will not buy Ben & Jerry's. I will not watch the BBC. I have been sensing your moral superiority and therefore distaste for half of your listeners for some time and I'm close to stopping listening and reading, even though since I was a child, thirty years ago one of my great pleasures was on a Wednesday escaping from school with my limited money to see if Autocar had something wonderful like a Ferrari, a Lamborghini or a BMW that could justify my purchase because I couldn't buy them all. I have thousands of them and have very positive feelings about you, your writing and I still spend half an hour selecting too many of them and reading them into the night. All you have to do is NOT say you are politically impartial, because you are not, and make it clear that although you have a political position on the left that you do not think half your listeners have unacceptable positions and opinions.
@@inthefieldunderthesky
There must be a reason why no CEOs sell their stock to generate cash for the company. Just look at Rivian and Lucid or any company that is in trouble.
When Elon buy Twitter he even needs loan from banks with interest rate higher than normal.
@@inthefieldunderthesky Andrew didn't make that comment about Elon Musk. He said Musk commented about Trump. Elon Musk has created wealth. The $56B represents an almost unprecedented business success; what he did is almost impossible. Your resentment is of grounded in left wing economics which don't work. People with your ideas make society poor. Elon Musk employs and has created wealth.He could roll around in money for the rest of his days and still have most of the $56B to invest. Elon Musk navigated Tesla through difficult times and he didn't do it by being an employee charity. As a result he has created wealth. And yet you begrudge that about him ..........
Andrew was being unfair to Elon Musk calling him an Arch Democrat in an extremely derisory tone. Andrew is saying that Elon moved from left to right over some years to manipulate and be part of a future government that would introduce tariffs that would benefit him in the USA. However, he sells almost as many Tesla's in China and he does in the USA and Canada together. You may have seen a few in the UK too. Andrew is suggesting Elon Musk is an amoral human calculating machine with no humanity. He derides him completely which is what the left has done, he was their hero, now he is their enemy. Ridiculous.
I'm not a big fan of Tesla. I think Elon Musks early online payment software and the consequential success of Paypal was a massive achievement especially for a young man, and I highly approve that he spent some of his money on a McLaren F1. Wonder where he got the Tesla power to weight ratio idea from? Pity about the weight part...... His business success with Tesla has been stellar and there is a lot to admire, but I do not see him as a visionary in this field. In his space endeavours perhaps though ...... He has not moved the car on one bit; he has applied todays car engineering to the electric cars of 100 years ago and added a lot of current computing technology all of which is probing in a direction rather than definitively leading and he was able to do it because of the batteries being mass produced for phones and laptops. The direction is autonomous control. Personal freedom is essential and the car you drive is a wonderful expression of that. Thats why the left hate the car and one of the reasons they loved Elon. Making cars autonomous solves a problem that doesn't exist and potentially creates problems, practical and political.
Andrew may have a point that Elon might try to use the culture and politics of our time to benefit his business at the cost of our culture, damage to our idea of the car and human individuality. However, I am interested that Andrew sees a problem now, but not in what Elon did to create and build Tesla. Arguably, he took a cultural "end of the world is nigh" moment, regardless of whether he really believes the CO2 stuff, to sell a project; using the battery technology of the moment to create an electrified Lotus Elise in California for a newly wealthy tech community in California which was always interested in the tech product of the moment. The tech community, nearly all young, geeky and politically unsophisticated fell into the left wing cultural movement, where they all got to lead the world with their work and be very very nice at the same time. They became a tribal group entwined with politics in a state as big as a country where it seemed wealth creation would continue forever and the left wouldn't start do destroy it like they always do. Policy made a god of the earth and electric cars became the religious symbol of their virtue. I think Elon quite cynically played this situation like a piano to create a top down support for his idea of a car, his company and then worked politically to expand that vision and the resulting policy throughout the west that dictated the end of any other form of car other than his. This is why he seemed like, to use Andrews phrase an "Arch Democrat". This makes one type of good businessman but not a good man.
It's unfair of Andrew to deride Elon Musk as cynically switching sides for the benefit of his company. Musk has gone on a journey from left to right and seems to have learned the value of freedom, and individuality. His relationship with the left became contentious. The young tech geeks in California became critical of him as they tribally gathered together to express their virtue. (in the recent election it seems many of the males among them moved to vote Trump ..... Interesting) Elon stood alone for a while, which is brave, at times he battled for his financial survival with few friends on a cultural level. He slowly gained approval from the right who didn't trust him, but he didn't seek it. In standing against the lefts attack on free speech by buying Twitter he may have played as big a role as Trump in stopping the left from destroying America.
Time may prove Elon Musk to be a truly great man. One of the cultural issues of our time effected Elon Musk, his son and his family and he has said it was important in his political journey. He says he has lost his son Xavier to the authoritarian movement of the left. Andrew both affirmed Lewis Hamilton's support of this ideology and political imposition of it, but didn't mention Elon Musks direct negative experience of it or take into account all the legal cases against the Tavistock NHS gender clinic in the UK. He leaves it out of his reasoning for the reason Elon Musk has moved to the right and has ended up in government. Its just a cynical tariff move.
Loads of car enthusiasts moan that EVs are "too heavy" and yet none of them drive an BMW i3s...... ;-)
Yeah let's all buy a tiny slow car with no range because we love driving!
Most EV vehicles are disposable goods but if they can be even a little bit more involving that's great as a daily. I have a tvr as a weekend car and ashortly a cupra born vz as my daily
The Audi S ETron GT is basically the previous model RS E Tron GT power wise...The problem i have with people whinging about EV's not being fun to drive is they seem to live in a driving Utopia that just doesn't exist anymore. I live in Yorkshire and we have some sublime driving roads, or used to. They are mostly crumbling into oblivion and are far too busy with bloody Cyclists and dawdling traffic. Look at the Northwest 500 as an example. There are more bloody Motorhomes on it than cars or motorbikes. Not to mention Plod with a mobile cameravan waiting at every opportunity to bloody zap you...The fun of driving has long since gone im aftaid to say..Sad days indeed...
I can’t look past the Twitter logos. That alone makes it a no for me.
Interesting that you bring up a Fiesta ST as the "fun" reference, because the reason this car is fun is precisely because it has a poor physics architecture! The reason the "back comes around" in a a ST is precisely because with all the mass in the front, it MUST push lateral loads rewards when cornering to avoid overloading the front axle (see VW products for ref....) and as a result the "lift and bung" is indeed both avaiable and fun.
The A290 has a much much better mass distribution, so it actually carries it's cornering loads in a much more neutral fashion, think Cayman vs 911, so as a direct result of this core competance it is "less fun". This is why imo, the most fun BEV you can drive is actually the BMW i3s, because it has very modest grip, and it is rwd, so you can now use TORQUE (something it has plenty of) rather than MOMENTUM to access the fun 🙂
Shame Ford in all it's infinite wisdom killed off the Fiesta and will no doubt bastardise it's name with yet another fecking fugly SUV type bag of shite...
Buy Dan's car now.
Here for NOT politics.
Well done Trump about time
Trump is a fool, end of..If he puts tariffs on other countries products what the feck do you think those same countries are going to do??? When you yanks are all on the dole claiming and not working because no one is buying your goods let's see your thoughts on the idiot then😂😂😂
indeed
i rather have tariffs on chinese EVs then having a full blown war with Russia
EVs are NOT the future try owning one and trying to get to Cornwall or Devon in 4 or 5 hours
Solid state batteries will increase the range to well over 500 miles. Not to mention how many people will do a 5 HR driving stint in one go. Don't you ever need the loo, food or drink?. Not to mention taking a break will stop you being a fecking liability on the roads when you're nodding off at the wheel......
well.. i rather have tariffs then war with russia
I feel like E.V is optimising for inefficiencies, hydrogens by-product is Water, and it takes Water to Manufacture hydrogen, talk about Recyclable, don't add tons to a vehicle, EVS destroys roads just by the Heft 2.4 tonne Saddens and Hatchbacks has the world gone stupid, a full-fat Range Rover Weighed 2.4 tonnes in 2012 now M5's Weighs 2.4 tonnes and people say they are good car, good how overprices laptops on wheels, why buy a new car anymore if a lightweight diesel is more efficient then any EV, in fact, put a new M5 V8 in an old M5 Body wala more Efficiency.
I take it you don't realise just how much electricity it takes to produce Hydrogen. Just use the same electricity to power cars. Simple. Not to mention transporting it in heavy tankers to fuel filling stations up n down the land. Hydrogen just doesn't make sense...Wait till Solid state batteries start being introduced in the next 3-5 yrs they are the big BEV game changer.
did he call musk a democrat? lol nooo. hes been spouting right wing non sense for years,
Musk has moved from left to right, and the left has moved from lionising him to demonising him. He is the same man.
oh no free speech
its only good if our free speech is allowed
but not if the others have free speech
Zero interest in revolting EV crapboxes 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
No one wants EVs
Yes some of us enlightened people do. I hope your grandkids grow up being able to breath clean air due to the BEV takeover..I bet you've never even driven an EV???
@@pauln0371 The end of the world is not nigh. Stop scaring your grandchildren.
the A290, beside being a mockery of Alpine's name, core values and legacy, is a very sub par car; the normal r5 is a better purchase from all povs.
If you actually are a real driving enthusiast, you should steer away clear from this junk type of cars, SUV-o EV hatchbacks pretending to be enthusiast's cars. Spoiler alert, they are not!(for start, there isn't a drive, a real drive on a good driving road in a gearless piece of garbage handling; that's the most important but there are tons of reasons for which this crap EV, taking the piss at the Alpine brand, isn't a driver's car!)
Have you driven it???
@@pauln0371 have you?, or we are wasting time?, just because you fail to realize what a mockery this ev is to the Alpine brand, doesn't mean it isn't.
and I don't need to drive another EV; I have drove plenty to date...they are all similar type of garbage; there isn't such a thing as an electric driver's car, nor will ever be considering there are no gears and no ICE motor to stir up your soul.