The Monochrome Set - Documentary Short

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  • @beefheart1410
    @beefheart1410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm not sure it's still "The Set" without Lester Square!
    One band who can truly lay claim to the unenviable claim of being criminally underrated! Certainly one of the greatest of the Post Punk bands.
    78 to 83 they were massively important to me.
    As someone who was in their mid teens in the early 80s, Post Punk, for me, was - in no particular order - the following:
    The Monochrome Set (obviously) (1978 - 1983)
    Echo And The Bunnymen (1978 - 1983)
    Teardrop Explodes
    Orange Juice
    The Cure (1978 - 1983)
    Public Image Limited (1978 - 1982)
    Killing Joke (1978 - 1983)
    The Stranglers
    Magazine
    Talking Heads
    Psychedelic Furs (1978 - 1982)
    Bauhaus
    Aztec Camera (First Album Era)
    The Pop Group
    The Slits
    Scritti Politi (Early)
    Felt
    Gang Of Four
    Pre-Fab Sprout
    U2 (First Two Albums Era)
    Virgin Prunes (1978 - 1981)
    Pere Ubu
    Siouxsie And The Banshees (1978 - 1982)
    The Birthday Party
    Television
    The Fall
    Adam And The Ants (First Album Era)
    Devo
    Joy Division
    Japan
    Cabaret Voltaire
    Durruti Column
    Plus artists that had been around for a while such as Bowie, Eno, The Velvet Underground, Tom Waits, Can, Kraftwerk, Neu or, were contemporary to Post Punk and sort of 'fit' like Kate Bush.
    Plus, there were still artists from the original Punk era making, often, the best albums of their careers in the late 70s early 80s: The Jam, The Clash, The Damned, The Buzzcocks, The Ruts, Stiff Little Fingers, Ian Dury and Elvis Costello all stand out.
    Then there was great, intelligent pop music being made by the likes of Pretenders, Squeeze, Blondie, Stray Cats, Dexy's Midnight Runners, Haircut 100 and The Police plus, in addition, there were the Two Tone bands: Specials and Madness.
    Combine all of the above with the great Reggae records that were being made at that time, throw on top the numerous good "one hit wonder" single releases from a myriad bands of varying styles and you can safely say that, musically, 1978 to 1983 (roughly) was an amazing period.

    • @iris5403
      @iris5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a teen now and I discovered The Monochrome Set from one of those Daily Mix playlists that get made based on music you like by Spotify. I am so glad I did, they are probably one of my favourite bands of all time. I also like a lot of those artists, though some of them I haven't heard of so if you do not mind I will just... take this as a recommendation list...
      Ones I havent heard enough of that you listed (mostly so I can come back and see them and I can check out later):
      The Stranglers
      Aztec Camera
      The Pop Group
      The Birthday Party
      Adam and the Ants
      Durruti Column
      The rest I also discovered basically the exact same way, they popped up on a daily mix and I was like damn I love this, so I checked out their other stuff. Except for like the giant names which I discovered just by them existing (Joy division, Devo, Talking Heads, etc.)

    • @iris5403
      @iris5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also 80s period of King Crimson (Discipline, Beat, Three of a Perfect Pair)

    • @diggerthegroundhog8799
      @diggerthegroundhog8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well done. I think your my lost music soul mate. I adore the set. Met them all after theb2012 show un Philly, nearly 30 years to the day from their 82 tour. They sig ed my tour poster with a silver marker. Exquisite. Bid was genuine and in a talkative mood. He told us all about the strong as he smoked like a chimney. So odd. He is such a cool dude.

    • @grimblegrumble
      @grimblegrumble 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a great list, but surely you simply forgot to mention XTC?

    • @maurizioantoniovetrugno7150
      @maurizioantoniovetrugno7150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Wire don’t forget Wire

  • @beefheart1410
    @beefheart1410 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I met "The Set" a few years ago after one of their gigs in Liverpool. How they came out of the lift at the beginning of this film here is how they were when I met them: Andy Warren sociable and smiley and Bid looking at you as if you were the most irritating thing in the world! Still, between 78 and 83 one of the greatest bands ever and criminally, criminally overlooked. They became weaker with the "Lost Weekend" era material in my opinion but, ironically, this was the material The Divine Comedy purloined for their sound and became reasonably successful in the process! "Dante's Casino" and "Jack" were something of a return to form but since then, the newer material hasn't worked so well to my ear. 79 to 82 they were peerless though. Plus, they're still great live!

    • @ggkitchener1122
      @ggkitchener1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One never sees Bid and Dev from Corrie simultaneously. Just saying !

  • @suzanneshelton4798
    @suzanneshelton4798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was supposed to be seeing them in Chicago tonight ( thanks coronavirus!). Last time I saw them was in New York in the early 80's. I love this band so much.

    • @beandipcartography
      @beandipcartography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeraldZecker more footage ?
      Yes, please and THANK YOU !!!

  • @diggerthegroundhog8799
    @diggerthegroundhog8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Superb recording quality of the 2012 tour. I was there at Phully Moca. Whomever did this went above and beyond. Thank you.

  • @calvinkwaak6866
    @calvinkwaak6866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i’m 15, been playing music my whole life. my dad has talked about them for ages and just this year i really dove into their music. i can say this without a doubt, one of the greatest bands to exist.

    • @woody5831
      @woody5831 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Been playing music your whole life & your only a kid of 15 😂

    • @calvinkwaak6866
      @calvinkwaak6866 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good job reading!

  • @hughjarrse
    @hughjarrse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In 1979 I stumbled (drunk) into a ballroom in Cleethorpes, Prag vec, The Monochrome Set and Manicured Noise where on the bill, I can't remember a thing about it apart from The Monochrome Set had a TV and a video player on stage playing clips of old movies, One clip kept saying (in sub titles) "Talk! ....... she won't talk" funny what sticks in your head

    • @jackevans3480
      @jackevans3480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember it. It was at the Winter Gardens, as far as I recall.

  • @billthon1099
    @billthon1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have always loved this and and LOVE ZOMBIES, Every song a winner great from Monochrome Set and listening now they sound even better.

  • @andyvepers9154
    @andyvepers9154 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The finest band in the world. And I'd love to see Lester back in there. But he did say that he'd retired. Bummer.

    • @ezears
      @ezears 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Loved how he talked about learning the guitar parts again from covers done by "14-yr olds" on here!

    • @Andy-pu2iv
      @Andy-pu2iv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I know. I'm going! Squeal!

  • @thisklik
    @thisklik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great band!!!

  • @theonlyantony
    @theonlyantony 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes, the Blondie analogy stands up well. The version of 'Goodbye Joe' sounds as if Debbie Harry were singing it..

  • @ezears
    @ezears 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Highlight from 15:25 on style and influence. New wave not post-punk. American-influenced, garage-y, early Blondie. Love this band.

  • @woody5831
    @woody5831 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only saw these live once London Aug 1979 supporting Adam and the Ants on the Zerox tour.

  • @feliperaurichbottiger6637
    @feliperaurichbottiger6637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for this !!

  • @jamiewesson898
    @jamiewesson898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its great he says we dont do songs live with two jingly guitars then they do a song live with two jingly guitars a band for all music fans

  • @thewoodentops.
    @thewoodentops. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could be wrong, but i don't think so, the kid who the guitarist is re learning his old tricky riffs off, the kid bought that black small Ricky of me!! I too have seen his films.Japan.

  • @ericcrawford9827
    @ericcrawford9827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw them in 85, or something. The Jacob's Ladder period. So loaded, can't remember anything but being kicked out. Bid on the Iggy Pop cover of He's Frank-''it's all money''.

  • @RookwingsKirk
    @RookwingsKirk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know what that intro music is from, please - it's really haunting me...

  • @frillwhistlebell
    @frillwhistlebell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting, is this something you put together/worked on? Sorry, not seeing credits.

    • @frillwhistlebell
      @frillwhistlebell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeraldZecker fantastic work. Thank you for documenting and sharing.

  • @theonlyantony
    @theonlyantony 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'Fun For Al The Family', is hilarious!

  • @patrickcollins8926
    @patrickcollins8926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a class of their own

  • @theonlyantony
    @theonlyantony 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sterling band.

  • @arcrs40
    @arcrs40 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    como se chama este baterista ? who is DRUM ?

  • @beefheart1410
    @beefheart1410 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's ironic that, lyrically - and in many ways musically, - The Monochrome Set are almost stereotypically "English" and yet Bid states the band's key influences are American artists. I get his point about the first two Blondie albums (and the garage band thing was always an obvious ingredient) but the prime, if only, American influence I could ever detect in their approach and sound were The Velvet Underground (particularly from the 3rd Velvets album on and the arrangements the Velvet's used on "Live, 1969"). I suppose another irony in my seeing The Monochrome Set as very "English" is that, of the three (semi) original members of the band on stage at the time this film was made, only one of them is wholly English (the other two being (partly?) Indian and Canadian)!

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have no arguments with any of your essential points, but up to a certain point all 'rock' influences were American. Even if, say, the Animals or Pink Floyd or the Dave Clark 5 were English, their music was still essentially American in form and inspiration.
      When the Beatles or the Kinks made a self-conscious attempt to sound English, they only had the likes of music hall to draw from.
      This may be personal taste showing, but a little of that goes a long way in a rock context.

  • @leperlord7078
    @leperlord7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is on that T shirt Steve is wearing at 14 min 21 seconds?

    • @leperlord7078
      @leperlord7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeraldZecker Yes.
      Cheers for that
      Good eye

  • @arcrs40
    @arcrs40 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    grande banda... tocam em novembro 2019 em Coimbra... podiam tocar no porto.... fuck

  • @reddog5031
    @reddog5031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hilarious, he had to relearn the guitar fingerings from TH-cam !!

  • @robertrobello738
    @robertrobello738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Com to sweden France and greece too.nice small band.or group.

    • @robertrobello738
      @robertrobello738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No I just listen to an record volume contrast and brilliance.And that is good music,normally im not listen to or goes in to fan clubs ,thank you I like you tube some Times .

    • @robertrobello738
      @robertrobello738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I meant at I dont have any relations personally to any thing at you tube or Facebook or The World of Nets in any meaning normally. I just use them sometimes some a compliment to my knowledge.like an Word book or something like that.robert.

  • @ollieoneill5961
    @ollieoneill5961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strangler s