Hey i didn't wanna be a tough guy but even i almost joined the military. I wish you could see how close my fingers are right now, thats how close it was
It's all part of the myth of meritocracy. To laypeople (like those billionaires) the sciences and physics in particular have this sort of mythos of being for "smart people". If these billionaires do "smart things" then they must be smart. If they are smart then they must be competent. If they are competent and hard working then they must have earned their fortunes legitimately. Also you should listen to these smart, competent people; they know what's best. It's all in service to the idea that hard work and competence will make you wealthy; therefore anyone who is wealthy must be hard working and competent. Ignoring the fact that basically every billionaire and a solid chunk of millionaires in this country started out with more than most people will earn throughout several lifetimes. I don't know if these people have internalized these ideas so hard that they are constantly trying to outwardly justify their wealth to themselves or if its all a grift, but the end result is the same. People who have wealth are trying to legitimize that wealth in the face of growing and stark inequality. Inequality that they have created (or at least taken advantage of and benefited from) to get their own wealth.
Well put, but you forgot about luck, timing & serendipity. Malcolm Gladwell points out that Bill lucked into having upper middle class, good parents, lived near & had access to a free university computer lab AND was born in 1955, timed perfectly for the computer age boom. If it wasn’t him, it would have been another kid just like him.
is it not ironic that you are reasoning on top of the exact same meritocracy ;) 1. You guys are the one assuming all this stuff, not the billionairs. Usually we call that projecting. 2. this meritocracy is exactly what you are using to justify ousting said person from commenting on physics, because YOU decided that he does not have the proper accolades to recieve the stamp of approval from mr physics gatekeeper chef in question. How are you guys not seeing the hipocrisy here ?
@@dudeonbike800 Sure it wouldve been someone else. Just not anybody. And that is kinda the point you are trying to make - it is not trivial to do what bill or jobs did. Not if you are born in 1955 either...... How many people exist from that time in upper middle class, good parents, lived near and had access to a free university computer lab. You are implying that these factors produce certain results but you are really missing the crux of the story. Bill and Steve was part of a relatively small group of people who realised what the computer could be like in the future. Their genious was more about conceptualizing a product that did not exist at the time, and being correct enough in your assumptions to be able to reap the benefits. Steve bought much of the iphone tech from Xerox, Xerox did not even consider these patents/inventions exciting........... So while it tend to seem so, realising what the computer would turn into today was not trivial in 1970. Sure it also requires some traits of cynicism and other bad traits to achieve stuff like this. No doubt about it. But that is more or less true for all leaders, whether in government or business.
@@jonaswox Oh dear, I don't think you understand how science works. Comment all you like, but if you want to be informed in your comments, then you need to back them up with evidence that your peers can review and check. Else, you're just on the level of Elon Musk declaring himself the greatest engineer in the world and then inflicting the Cybertruck on us.
You guys think so much of your 4 year bachelors. According to you all if you didn't finish a bachelors you cant comment on physics. Even if you read tons of books take lectures and hire 100 s of physicists according to you all the 4 year degree is still king. Silly af.
@@greatestever9616 spoken like someone who doesn't know the academic hierarchy. If you do an undergrad you're still a pissant to postgrad students doing their Masters or PhD. Even when you're a postdoc you're "just" a tutor who couldn't get a real position to the tenured professors. And the professors are closeted losers to the ones out in the private sector flogging VC startups dreaming of being the next billionaire
@@greatestever9616basically anyone can read a book. It doesn't mean they understand it. Edit: you have to *earn* a degree, not just read a few books and feel good about it.
I was a professional musician for 25 years. Now I’m in college for physics. The romantic, overblown notions about music and physics are remarkably similar.
I was thinking about this because I've been really involved in the contemporary poetry world and non-poets are always describing things as "poetry" or maybe even talking about reading poetry but nobody actually reads poetry, nobody buys poetry books outside maybe of like one poet they read in high school or college and decided they liked and they bought one book of that poet's and look at it every once in awhile. It's wildly romanticized but in reality it's just this niche, not-very-popular genre of writing.
Your right, poetry is pretty niche. The only example I know of a contemporary well known poet is Philip Larkin, who wrote, "This Be The Verse", a poem about how parents cause problems to their kids. I also read poetry online by a creative guy who makes drawings and poems about fishing. Well not fishing exactly, I made a typo and wrote an h where there was supposed to be a t. He's pretty good and knows how to enjoy life to the fullest.
Your 3rd sentence is very unclear, ambiguous even. Consider cleaning it up? Like are you literally talking about the notions? What notions? That is pretty content free. Are you talking about the aspects of the two that are similar? Usually its math and music being compared that way. But it could be physics.
No need to exploit anyone. Just find the right people for your team and enter into voluntary transactions with them to exchange your money for their effort and expertise.
@@brianernzen2509 - Tell that to Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Nike, Apple, the oil industry, the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and so on and so forth. Or you can continue to lick boots, if that's your thing.
As a programmer who is interested in physics for no good reason - I do find it plausible that the billionaires mentioned are interested in physics. That does not necessarily mean anyone should be interested in their opinions about it ^^
I also think it’s plausible - even likely- that billionaires are interested in physics. They probably should get better at professing their ignorance on matters of physics but I don’t think we should expect them to stop talking about it. That seems kind of gate keepy.
I'm shocked by how many people don't even get a little whiff of the horror that is awaiting us. The world is a giant circus and you are seeing evil, very powerful people that 1.: have the ability to change what is considered reality & factual science. 2.: want to put chips in your brain. Since 30 years they talk about this mysterious changes that are gonna happen to the world and this major changes that will happen to humanity. You are living in a time of transition, a transition that none of us ever gave consent to.
I don’t think its weird at all for these people. It’s about their ego. Physics, in pop culture is shorthand for smart. “It’s rocket science.” I think, because this is your day job, there is no mystique for you. But to the vast majority of people who don’t have a STEM degree, it’s a kind of an appeal to the authority that physics, as an idea, has. I think you could call it the halo effect. That these billionaires want their decisions to be regarded as coming from a great esoteric intellect, that is beyond the questioning of mere mortal man. That, I believe is the point. Physics, for most, is inscrutable, and so there is this acceptance of what a physicist says as being beyond them, but true. Billionaires want their choices to be seen in the same light. I really think that’s the end goal. Don’t question me or my greed. It’s as above you, as physics is.
“I wish I could study physics.” “Do it, then.” An average person could say, “I have to earn a living,” or “I have to take care of my aged mother,” but billionaires don’t have those excuses, do they? I’ve got to admit you made me have a grudging respect for Jeff Bezos, because he said “I quit physics because it was really hard,” instead of giving some cock and bull story about why he’s not a physicist.
"But it seemed so easy for those other guys" _is_ a cock and bull story. It's hard for basically everyone. It's just hard. Of course there are genius edge cases, but those don't stop the other 99.9% of students who want to put in the work.
@@narfwhals7843 "Seemed easy for everyone else" I don't think is a deliberate lie because many people come to those conclusions because they don't have contact with other people who struggle with the same issue. Especially if your interest was for physics and most others seem to be measured This is not to make Bezos look like a relatable dude, the dude's still a vicious robber baron who's an absolute idiot in many things he thinks he knows about, but I wanted to point out that this is a very common emotional logic that goes through people that struggle with a particular subject.
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 Yeah I was going to say the same something similar - those guys he was talking about were like a handful of guys at Princeton who were probably better than Bezos - those guys may have had their struggles but from Bezos' eyes, they probably just had it easier which to him translated to "just got it"
To be fair, I dropped out of college to get a job to take care of my sick mom. I ended up coming back after she got better, but sick mom was more of a deterrent than a motivating factor.
How do you know you were too stupid for physics? Was it because the other students kept talking about how smart they are? or was it because the teachers were bad at teaching physics? I found both of those in the same physics class.
I am an engineer and actually these billionairs also do this with engineering. Elon really wants you to know he built spaceX and is responsible for all their success. Not the hoards of young engineers(and physicists) that are underpaid but working on pure passion. I absolutely agree on your points related to physics, but I would extend the same thing to engineering, granted they are very adjacent fields already. It is really telling how powerful media and propaganda is when you see how successful the billionaires are at pushing this narrative.
I think the Twitter-posted 1st-year homework is a prime example of exactly how he got rich: pitching to people who can't see through the fact that his knowledge is quite basic. Once you can see it, he's a joke. He is 100% bluff. It's a reflection of these times & the dynamics that drive this era.
@@alastairleith8612 The moron literally said that with a straight face too. How did the interviewer refrain from saying "Do you think the witnesses to the nearly 3000 automated driverless cars that have crashed after being manufactured by you would think that?"
Bill Gates definitely could have been a professional mathematician. He was a top-of-his-cohort math major at Harvard and had a first author publication as an undergrad in math which is extremely rare. Personally (as a mathematician) I have zero problem with him talking about math or math research-he walks the walk. He’s done real, serious, published research in the field. BUT to the best of my knowledge he’s done exactly 0 physics in any serious capacity ever?
Remember this : Oprah once asked how Michelle Obama got over feeling intimidated sitting at big tables filled with smart, powerful men and Michelle said, _You realize pretty quickly that a lot of them aren’t that smart._
yup. try my commentariat. " We agree, largely. My brother , who was booted from MIT because of pol activity 'Rosa Luxembourg group he formed 1968. Friend of Noam Chomsky at time, feminist fam, Mom internationally, dad director research Western Electric, 58 to 64, mom held national org presidencies, taught history women in science, Princeton grad seminar, much more. A scientist uses the scientific method, even in the humanities...technicians and technologists are, if scientific, only in VERY narrow specializations. Those called scientists are sometimes competent in one area, but a joke elsewhere, Michio Kaku at the bottom, Tyson, who waffles endlessly and who said first trillionaire would 'solve asteroid mining.' !!! Knowing what does not understand is hardest...and the developmentally infantile tend to be narcissistically and SCIENTISTICALLY delusional. Trump only chooses such lowest lifes. Here are related commentaries, written to other channels. Science tech fantasy is fun, but virtually all high tech seen there is impossible...force fields, space vessels capable of going interstellar distances... Locating even single-celled life within hundreds of lightyears...life that survives 4 billion years, taking most of that time just to get to eukaryotes, complex single celled life...'transporting' teleporting, is impossible in EVERY sense, starting with accurate measurement at the quantum...and to the macroscopic...range There are also endless reasons why no life form can travel from star to star. Even if we had 2 earth-mass planets in our orbit at the Trojan Points, one with life...different evolution, so even if DNA based, different proteins and the rest...one lifeless...we could not live on either....terraforming is laughable....a billion years? When coal is gone~~oil and gas, recoverable, gone in a century, more or less....machine age ends forever, assuming humans survive Anthropocene, as unknowable NOW, as life elsewhere will be.....forever. Hand and hoof, stone and wood...just like 300 years ago...some charcoal and even coke, artificial coal...from cellulose. But we use a million years deposits of life YEARLY...to have enough wood to supply billions....in a thousand years, if we survive Anthropocene...unknowable that, now.... THEN, no computers...hell, no bicycles. Medical laboratories, vaccines, antibiotics, chemotherapy, air conditioners...and the poisons mined and made will take a short geologic age to be reburied below the only biosphere we can ever even KNOW of. Anti-science theocracies, far worse than magagagers, would likely rule... think bronze and iron age, and not much of either. When it takes more in fuel to mine fuel...think, how deep and dirty MACHINES dig down to until the Collapse... " Within a week at Princeton I found my polymath parents were right...most successful people are only competent in a narrow area, esp. if in hard science...cookbook scientists open a book and it tells them what to think and do. Generalist here...fantasy rules, with money, almost in all...racism, nationalism, Social Darwinism...idea rich are intelligent, adult, responsible, educated, rational, consistent and empathic !!!!!!!!...sexism, literal theisms, mysticisms...and worst now...fantasy of future high tech 'cures' for....high tech. Infants and speculative, untethered adolescents run the world. We evolved as scavenger, forager/gatherer, hunter/predator, fishers. Competence and survival does not require understanding, largely. Competition trumps cooperation. More later. I grew up with the rich and influential. Sigh. It doesn't look good, when the roosters come home to rousts, after the boasts. Drill baby drill makes the few richest a little richest, VERY NEAR FUTURE...after old white men die, they care not...no mirror neurons. Tramp would sell Ivantkaka for a farthing, since she stopped giving him lap-dances as a tween. see the clip...and Junior recently, near dad, finger in left jacket pocket, then rubbing on right side teeth....the nervously glancing stage right at daddums dearest. see the clip...can't unsee any of them. DANKE.
To be fair, he earned a BSc in physics (with Honours) decades prior to earning his Phd, he was offered a research position with lead to his doctorate at the time, but decided music was more important. He's one of those enviable people who are both incredibly academically and artistically gifted.
And he'd already done some of the work leading to his dissertation. *_Dr Becky_* has a video reviewing the published book of *_Brian May's_* dissertation. It has pictures from his time doing the _field work_ for it at a research station.
This happens with every other rich or semi-rich stranger I meet too! The moment I mention I'm a physicist they will casually bring up that they started studying physics when young, then they quickly figured out it's a pointless pursuit, and they then switched to studying x, y, z that made them rich. And then they will be mean to you too
When smart people meet another smart person often they think, "This is great, now I can have an interesting conversation". But when smart people meet an insecure person, the insecure person tries to drag them down, to make themselves look better by comparison. People who do that, are not worth keeping in your life, because they intentionally annoy you, every time they get the chance.
Omg, this is such a great observation. Hats off to you. You really are the only one who noticed this. But once you say it, we all see it. It’s just like how a great comedian tells a joke, observing the obvious thing everybody missed, but we immediately all see it once it’s pointed out to us. Many publicly successful entrepreneurs want to be known as visionaries. Society views these entrepreneurs as IQ giants, which they frequently are. But even these entrepreneurs are insecure before physicists and mathematicians, who the entrepreneurs regard to be the highest IQ savants. So like everyday people want to associate with entrepreneurs, the entrepreneurs want to associate with academic physicists.
Don't forget that every Taylor Swift track produced, and every Taylor Swift concert performed, involves the work of hundreds of people who don't make nearly as much money from it as Swift does. Every billionaire exploits, even the nice ones.
@DdavidoffC the artists aren't the ones making it expensive like it is. Sure, I think they would of they could. But that's the ticket master as it currently stands. It's a title that shouldn't even exist.
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I could have been Taylor Swift, except I'm too short.
People have weird ideas about physics. Every time I tell a "normal" (i.e. non-nerd) person that I have a post-graduate degree in physics, they immediately go "OH MY GOD, you must be SOOOO SMART, I could NEVER imagine doing something like that!!!" And it's nice to be told you're smart, but people take it to a level that's kinda. . . weird and off-putting. I don't want people to think of me as some kind of brainologist lording over the prole idiots with my massive intellect. But of course billionaires do want that.
Yeah same. I'm in an undergraduate program for just general physics and everyone treats me like I'm some galaxy level genius. Sure, I can be, but I'm not anymore genius than someone studying literature, or even a janitor. Idk. Maybe it's something to do with the whole myth of thr "Great Man" concept where one single person will save the world with their genius intelligence or whatever.
tbh I think a lot of people also say that because they fall back on stereotypical responses when talking about stuff like that with people they don't know well. I've noticed that I always say the same sort of stuff to people doing sciences despite the fact that the people I know who do those things do not appear to be smarter in any way outside of their degree. in fact, they're often pretty bad at other subjects just like most other people. turns out people are just better at different things most of the time! and yet I'll probably never stop doing the 'oooh that sounds hard, I could never do that! you poor soul' routine lol🤷🏻♀️ apologies
@@chickenfoot2423 i study the Chinese language and i don't even know math because I'm lazy... But certain people think i must be SUCH a genius because i make time in my day to memorize Chinese characters Literally just rote memorization and some simple grammar bro, but because most people can't even imagine where to start, they think it's the devils work.
I teach science and some mathematics at a highschool while finishing my masters in physics, and it has given me a new perspective on my degree and relationship with the STEM fields: it is actually and truly difficult for a majority of people. Like a different type of difficult than what I think physics students would experience. Going from a concrete phenomena to an abstraction and mapping that to other applicable systems and problems is actually a major challenge. So embrance it just a little, you are a smartass
I would set up a workshop, a dedicated place for blacksmithing, steelworking and woodworking, a stocked up electronical and mechanical components storage, a fully geared up car garage, a chemistry + electronics lab with everything you could ever need like fumehoods and spectrum analyzers, a dedicated library (maybe adjacent to a nice place for reads and thoughts like an orangery where all my favourite plants would go?) and a novelty/antique science/technology objects collection... and then I'd have enough to do til the end of my life. For me, it's funny and ridiculous santa checklist, but a billionaire literally would set this up (rather *have* it set up for them) in an afternoon.
@@alsetsolar3450 As enjoyable and rewarding as that is, it's not the same as being directly taught by an expert. The big thing you get out of a tertiary education isn't the lectures, it's the labs/tutorials/other sessions where you are directly interacting with the educators. Like, I got heaps out of all the lectures I attended about biology and environmental science! But I could have accessed the information in those lectures myself if I wanted to. Sure, it's valuable that some very intelligent, very well-informed people *curated* that info for me. It probably would have been a significantly slower process without it. But ultimately, I could have dug all those things up on my own. What I couldn't do outside the university is have the long discussions with various experts. I couldn't have several hours dissecting various organisms with the help of someone with a PhD in biology, every week, for most of a semester. I couldn't submit papers to an expert and get their feedback on how well I understood the subject and on whether the way I'm exploring it is valuable. I'm planning to do my honours by research next year, again under the direct supervision of a highly educated and experienced biologist, and that, too, is something you can't do on your own. Or at least you can, but it won't be the same kind of learning experience as doing it with that type of expert help. Discounting the fancy bit of paper I got at the end, which I'm guessing wouldn't be a major goal of someone using their billion dollars to go back to college forecer:p
I read atlas shrugged knowing it wasn't satire, which made it even more hilarious. It's two satires fighting each other. One was unintentional. The end.
She didn't even get the author's name right. Her description is utterly wrong, like she only read every 10th page. For example, John Galt was not a millionaire, but a blue collar worker and philosopher.
@@ttthttpdgetting a few facts wrong about a book you read more than ten years ago is understandable. I would say that wiki quote effectively summarizes the book.
OMG the part when you say that these billionaires could just spend their money in private physics tutors and actually learn physics is absolutely great
@@pacotaco1246 Is it wild or lazy or are we missing the point? What if they just want to be associated with names like Einstein while obscuring the fact that they are actually just a bunch of greedy dicks.
nooo, they work 3 trillions of hours per week those men. they don't have time to learn anything. it's tuesday and they have to go on their seventh podcast of the week!!!
It’s great to see how this broad issue manifests in specific industries, subcultures, professions, and areas of study. Otherwise we all might think it’s a quirk of our immediate social groups. People sometimes bristle at phrases like “class consciousness” and “solidarity” in the abstract, but videos like this make it clear what that means in reality: despite our fragmentation into various niches (profession, etc) these commonalties can help us relate to and help each other.
@@theonlyever I hate it the most when people divide as white collar and blue collar workers like they're the ones taking from eachother. Motherfucker you're all being exploited to hell and being used as tools by capital.
@@deepwuwu I think the real issue is having history and english as a separate subjects. English is meant to teach students how to analyze a piece of media and understand what it may really be saying whereas history tends to be treated as merely a factual class. They should be largely interconnected and students should learn to start making their own connections in the real world rather than just books.
5:52 There’s definitely an incorrect assumption about the correlation between financial success and intelligence. Unfortunately, this assumption seems to be so fundamental within the base sets of people that even if you showed them that no such correlation exists, they would still operate as if it does.
The reason these billionaires don't just (actually) learn physics is that it would require confronting the fact that there are lots of not-rich people way smarter than they are.
Yeah that's the weird flipside of this, like aren't they implying that there are like thousands of people out there who could be much richer than them? Like why aren't all the people with physics degrees billionaires? Did they all just decide they didn't want to be rich?
@@hedgehog3180 It's this ugly idea that the physicists are smart because they're smart but they're also dumb for deciding to use their skills to help humanity instead of getting rich
My favorite high school math teacher was a physicist but he loved physics math more advanced than offered in a high school so he just taught advanced math instead and he was amazing at it
I read Atlas Shrugged in 3rd grade & thought it was brilliant. It's pretty persuasive for 8 year olds. Any adult who falls for Ayn Rand is ridiculous to me. I love this episode.
"no physicist would ever think they're smarter than a biologist" at this point in the video, this is the only thing I have to disagree on. A big part of physicists I know, do exactly that. Think their smarter and better than non physicists. There are a few fields they respect, but still think they're the pinnacle of intelligence. And this opinion(?) is being taught in university too. Many professors think that way. Often they don't even notice it. It's internalised.
Biologist here. Many of the physicists-turned-biologists that are now tackling problems in their quantitative biology labs most definitely do think they're smarter than all of the biologists. It is also true that many of them are very good and make excellent collaborators. They often bring with them a different set of experimental and analytical tools.
Yeah especially towards biology I've def encountered some snobbery and it never fails to piss me off. But I'm lucky in that my circles are pretty good at avoiding that. The only universally demeaned subject is non-accounting related business students
Well, that's foolish. A single person can only learn so much and can only spend so much time staying up-to-date in their chosen field(s), so they're simply not going to have all the knowledge people in other fields do. It's what everyone in the sciences needs to learn if they ever want to stop chasing their own tail and get any interesting research done.
I think there is a kernel of truth in that idea, in that biology courses just do not require a high enough level of understanding in maths. This becomes an issue when these students go on to do real research, where they struggle to understand the full implication of the statistical models they use for said research. I did a bioengineering course at a "world's top 10 uni", and my physiology lecturer didn't understand the difference between Σ(1/n) and 1/(Σ(n)) when talking about vascular resistance, even when I specifically pointed that out to him after the lecture.
@@NiKoNethe Sure but I don't really think "how high a level of math is required" should be the sole factor in rating how "intelligent" a field of study is, which so many people seem to believe.
@@TheGotoGeek "It's not about making money, it's about taking money. Destroying the status quo, because the status is...not...quo. The world is a mess and I just need to...rule it." -Dr. Horrible
The funniest thing to me is how I've always found physics itself to be so intuitive, and how physics curricula were all so focused on the math involved but no billionaire claims to have been an aspiring mathematician
It's virtue signaling for investors. That's it. A year ago I wouldn't have a clue, but now it is clear to me they did this as a show off for shareholders. They did so they were perceived as the most intelligent in and trustworthy back when investment was looking for expansion and smart people. Now, it is different however. They have changed because they perceive investors are looking for other traits. They talk about AI, AI, Ai, everywhere. They shamelessly don't present as a smart person but a ruthless one with employees. They say cranky things like you don't need college anymore, and AI will replace us all. Even RTO mandates are part of this ruthless boss imaginery.
I mean, it definitely used to be for shareholders / potential investors, but another term for those people is just "social circle". Those are just the humans who they were around and wanted the approval of, and I don't just mean in order to get investment dollars out of them. They're human beings with egos and very little left that constrains what they do or say. Totally different topic, RTO mandates are not the same. That's mostly the 10s or 100s of millions of dollars in capital investment that is going down the drain if employees aren't using those physical spaces so they can write off those expenditures.
@@Ateesh6782 Explaining the joke, just in case: 'Physic' is an obsolete (14th C) term for medicine and the medical profession, which survives in the term 'physician' to refer to a doctor.
@brycecarr362 My bad, didn’t notice you posted your comment in the 14th century. ;) (Not being malicious, just tongue-in-cheek; I’m a linguist and etymology buff. I also have a good sense of all four homours. ;) )
@@NameRealperson My bad, didn’t notice you posted your comment in the 14th century. ;) (Not being malicious, just tongue-in-cheek; I’m a linguist and etymology buff. I also have a good sense of all four homours. ;) )
I remember when I was young, like 8 years old, I was writing a story. I wanted to have a super smart character, and I was struggling to come up with things that smart people do (since I was 8). I asked my mom what were some things that smart people did. She said quantum mechanics and rocket science. I wrote that my character did those things as hobbies. The fact that I shared this anecdote from my childhood means that my net worth should now be 100 billion dollars.
Really loving the “physics is a law, everything else is suggestion” from the guy constantly breaking and bribing his way out of laws every day forever. That’s super neat.
These people remind me of when I was a college freshman. I loved attending colloquiums and looking through graduate textbooks, not understanding a single thing anyone ever said, but still patting myself on the back at how smart it made me feel lmaooo
You can understand a lot of grad books in math (peculiarly if they are well written enough to hold you hand through the concepts and assume no knowledge)
I did something like that as a kid and I think I did kinda get something out of it in that it simply meant that I had seem the words, graphs and so on and didn't have to learn those as well before I started actually learning about a subject. Simply being vaguely familiar with a thing before you start actually learning can be a huge help since it means you have to spend less effort on memorizing stuff. I think I still sorta do this unconsciously today where it's only later that I realize that I didn't actually understand jack shit, I just thought I did because I recognized something.
"If it's so important to you, just do the thing." This whole bit reminded me of Dexter Holland from The Offspring. He paused his studies in molecular biology to be a rock star, then went back to school and earned his PhD in 2017. It was important to him, so he did the thing.
OK, different genre, but reminds me of 70s progger Peter Hammill broke up his band and got his astrophysics degree at Oxford and then got the band back together.
I can tell you why billionairs love physics: because they studied physics in high school When we grew up in the 80s, physics was the king of sciences. For our parents generation, it was the science that gave us the atom bomb, satellites, the moon landing. So when we studied physics in high school it made us feel smarter than everyone. "Wow, we understand reality in a different level" . And that feeling stuck. On a side note: anyone knows if she reviewed "the moon is a harsh mistress" ? I think that book influenced the techbro mindset as much as Ayn Rand
There is no difference between the highschool physics thaught today or 40 years ago. This is such an odd comparison, why does that affect billionaires only? You do know that there are billionaires of different ages too right? And that non billionaires have also gone to school, what are you on about
@@bossle6834 The way physics is taught in high school hasn't changed, but the public perception and esteem of it as a discipline has. Nowadays there's a common notion of physics being a "dead" field and that there are no more huge breakthroughs occurring like there were in the 20th century.
There's actually a lot more Gates does with his money other than just "throw it at problems" but the point wouldn't be as catchy if she were to include that. Actually go educate yourself on his philanthropic work, come back and tell me he's this big bad monster that's the same as every other billionaire.
The reason that they all pick physics instead of botany, or even biology, or whatever, is that physics is about the fundamental baseline of reality (or that’s the idea at least). It’s not just that they think it’s the hardest one. It’s saying “I understand the fundamental workings of the universe man, that’s why the pocket MP3 player I put my name on is so futuristic and awesome!” They also all like to claim computer science.
@@dialecticsjunkie7653 So now it's "theoretical physics" and with that slight of hand the goal posts are moved. And I'll also assume if I push harder, you'll claim you only meant current theoretical concepts, not the theoretical physics of yesteryear that underwrites semiconductor behaviour or cheap high capacity storage etc... that make MP3's, Mpeg etc viable - which is all a direct application of 20th Cen. theoretical physics. If your company banked on optical storage media being the future rather than SLC, MLC etc...... that literally is lack of physics understanding at the highest levels. Thinking that blue rays or even ‘uv' rays were the future..... lack of degree level physics in senior management.
I heard an interview about Elon Musk recently where the person said “I like that he’s successful. I like that he’s an outsider, an engineer” and the interviewer interrupts to say “Well he’s not that much of an outsider” and as I was listening I was sure she was about to say “Well he’s not that much of an engineer” 😅 I don’t have any experience in journalism like she does though, I only got accepted into a PhD program for engineering 😂
My favorite bit of Schadenfreude regarding Ayn Rand is how after she built her coterie of objectivist friends including her boyfriend, said boyfriend informed her that one of the other objectivists was objectively younger and prettier.
I just hope that the ideologies of those people are just too unstable to hold together without infighting long enough to come into effect, just like that.
NGL she's either really confused or really good at being a pick me. Though of course, pick mes ultimately get unpicked when they're not as good looking or don't behave a specific way enough at some point.
Dude, Ayn Rand also ended up falling into poverty and using government aid, the very thing she claimed to be against from the start. If she decided to fall into poverty and pull herself up or at least maintain a livable status in poverty, I could have at least praised her unshakable character. . . . . I could have. . . . :/
I’m so glad to hear you talk about Stephen Wolfram. I do not have the knowledge to critique what he says 90% of the time but my vibes are never wrong and something just felt off, then finally he did a long conversation with Nassim Nicolas Taleb about medical science and Taleb on that occasion was spot on and Wolfram just heaped scorn on medical scientists asking the most rudimentary questions, shouting at the sky, seemingly unable to compute that datasets in medicine are utterly different to his field. I wanted to make a video talking about that exact chat but figured it was way too niche and frankly I felt nervous
Aww man I'd love to see you talk about it! Steven Wolfram fascinates me. I wonder if anything will eventually come of his physics program or if he's gone irreparably off the rails.
I attended a lecture Wolfram gave when "A New Kind of Science" came out. The professors in the room basically ridiculed him. I didn't think he deserved it, but it would certainly be good to get your take about this chat.
Weird VIP billionaires talking about physics without proper a background always reminds me of the former German chancellor Angela Merkel, who had studied physics at the University of Leipzig (iirc) and left with a diploma and she NEVER blabbed about the nature of physics in any TV show or interview.
@ThomasSMuhn i didnt know her doctorate was in quantum chemistry. I dont follow politics in general. But if I recall she basically bailed out the euro a few times too. Its really hard to think of many things more impressive than a doctorate in quantum chemistry, running an entire country, and saving the worlds first centralized multinational currency. What an absolute beast.
As physics is a real smarty subject, by cosplaying as someone who appears intelligent and understands it, they try to make it seem like they deserve their fortune by the false virtue of their mind.
The thought of billionaires being just that extremely smart is just comforting. It's comforting to think "yeah, the only reason I'm toiling every day to afford housing and food is that I'm not smart enough to be a billionaire" Once you realize how not that smart they really are, it starts to crawl on you, how much in this society is stacked against you and how few people care...
You think someone who manages to learn how to run an entire business based off of there capabilities without being screwd by investors are not smart people?
@@badyoutuber1986 Being good at a certain thing doesen't necessarily mean you are smart in a general sense. And it doesen't make you immune from cognitive biases. Not to mention there are legitimately some people that fail upwards.
@@badyoutuber1986 And to add insult to injury, it is an honorable propensity of our civil structure that being evilly wise in the ability to earn money is much more fortuitous and rewarded than many other endeavors. I think you extend to much skill to a system that promotes such things.
@@TheArrowedKnee But are the people that she is specifically talking about failed upwards? Did they claim that they are physicists or that they have an interest and or fascination in the subject..? You can down play there cognitive capabilities all you want but their presence is evidence to the contrary.
Billionaires: Starting on third base and thinking they hit a triple, then scoring after someone else gets a base hit and thinking they did the work to score the run.
Ironically evil as he was Norman was in the lab doing shit and was allegedly actually smart even if he was careless. He was still somehow better at the bullshit he peddles than real actual billionaires
Me too, I wish she didn't have to, but unfortunately it keeps happening, so talking about it is required. It happens to all ages and genders, and false reports are both terrible and pretty rare. SA unfortunately is not rare, which is why we need good education about it in schools. People often get harassed for talking about it, so I very much appreciate the people, with the integrity and courage, to call it out.
And that's without even mentioning Bill Gates was BFF's with Epstein and continued flying to his island on the Lolita express even after he had been convicted, or that Musk has repeatedly offered his sperm to random women at dinner parties (for real), impregnated and/or has been grape-y with countless subordinates at his companies, and tweeted the worlds creepiest message to Taylor swift, etc
@@davidestabrook5367 False reports are pretty common actually. Don't know if you like, have been paying attention to nearly all of the most famous sexual harassment accusations. Also, most of the most prolific and long lasting cases are old dudes in powerful positions. I actually don't see the value in talking about it other than preaching to the choir. Like this channel. "Hey...unsolicited d1ck pics are...not wanted" I have never and don't know anyone who has done this...I'm sure alot of women have gotten them. But it's like "raising awareness" about murder. How much does this really help? The people who compulsively do these things are just going to do them until they are made to stop. "Teach boys to not r4p3." Is one that has always caused me to scratch my head. I don't think that's how that works.
I don't know what possessed the algorithm to show this video to me, but I am forever grateful. You are hilarious and I love the style of this video. I also love that you assumed Atlas Shrugged was a satire. Sometimes I wonder if people like Rand aren't just Poes. But then I see the effect of their thoughts and realize it doesn't matter.
I think you're vastly overestimating people's critical thinking skills. Most people absolutely believe that the tech billionaires are geniuses, and the entire apparatus of capitalism has a vested interest in convincing people that it's true. That's the whole "American Dream", that if you're smart and work hard, you too can be a billionaire. If people stopped believing that and started to think that rich people are mostly only rich because their parents were rich, then the whole illusion falls apart.
It is modern prosperity gospel. Instead of "I am rich because God has chosen me and so I deserve this wealth" they say "I am rich because I'm incredibly smart and capable and so I deserve this wealth" when in reality it's mostly a mix of luck, timing, and being from a rich family
Becoming a billionaire Wes never and is still not the “American dream”. The American dream was owning a home and comfortably retiring in your 60s. I mean it’s still dead as fuck but let’s at least be honest about what we’re mourning
This isn't true. Billionaires like Musk, Jobs, and others certainly are/were geniuses, or at least intellectually gifted. You can't run Tesla and SpaceX without having an above average IQ. Elon also has Asperger's. And no, they didn't become wealthy because their parents were wealthy. This is regurgitated garbage that is frequently perpetuated by communists/socialists.
Thanks for referencing Rand, as I think her and her ideological allies are probably why so many of the billionaires and their supporters think every billionaire is a genius. But they also all think they're the so-called "prime movers"
I’m chiming in because I recently mentioned Ayn Rand in a video: she came of age in the early USSR and was kicked out of Leningrad university because her father had owned a small business before the revolution. He wasn’t some big-timer; such people didn’t exist in the Russian Empire outside of government-connected oligarchs. Her entire ideology is just a Soviet strawman of western decadence. Zero irony.
@@SamAronow Hey Sam, great channel! Still waiting for your video on the ongoing genocide being carried out supposedly on our behalf. Seems like kinda a weird thing to leave out for a whole year hah :)
Throw back: Before smartphones and ubiquitous GPS, I worked at OnStar, the telephone-based vehicle concierge service from GM. The people who drove the _most_ expensive cars were invariably the least intelligent. Correlation is not causation, but it is kinda funny sometimes.
@@errorite6653cmon dude dont do this to sam aronow, he's never pushed any political line or agenda and i wouldnt want him to compromise his mission of teaching jewish history by getting caught up in that
This is one of the best comedy channels on YT, and educational too. In their defense, would you rather rich people waste their money on bad art or would you rather they pour money into research?
I think it has to be physics bc physics is generally associated with geniuses. And I think that's for 3 reasons: 1. Einstein. He is the prototypical genius and he was a physicist. The same goes to some degree for Hawking I think, although his genius reputation was influenced by Einstein. 2. It's a very male dominated field. 3. In popular imagination, it includes nuclear anything, space anything, inventing/engineering anything and also where the universe comes from. It seems like it is both very practical and also very phylosophical.
Came to the comments to say Einstein, who is probably the most famous scientist, along with Newton - both known for their discoveries in physics. Hawking too, as you said. Also, mathematics is seen as peak human intelligence in pop culture because it epitomises 'one solvable answer' and doesn't have to deal with any messy 'nuances'. Science is seen as admirable and as the one way to progress humanity, that scientists are an elite higher class of being (rather than teams of people who produce amazing work through collaboration and repetition). So physics, the combination of maths and science, is seen as the ultimate peak of intellect. Quantum physics and rocket science are both thrown around so much that they've basically become shorthand for 'extremely complex topic'. They are, but so is every highly specialised area of ongoing research in the sciences. The other professions with glamourised intellect are medical doctors and detectives, maybe with some tech inventors thrown in there. We assume intelligence of some fields more than others which are just as complex but less popularised.
Please, read my comment. I arrived at the same conclusion you did but i am both a physicist and a marxist so i used a bit of that (mostly the marxist part for the subject is Billionaire. Though if you wish me to conduct an experimental test on the influence of billionaires/millionaires on the laws of motion of an explosive rocket all you need is give me the word and the appropriate sample of rich people, i think i can do with 5000 of them.)
I think it's mainly because Physics is quite literally everything. Doesn't matter whether you like it or not, it literally governs everyone's lives. Having knowledge about something this powerful (You get what I mean) is probably seen as prestigious
Right! Well said Angela. On the other hand there's Brian May. Rock guitarist in Queen who earned a PhD degree in astrophysics from Imperial College London in 2007.
The poorer schools are and the more uneducated people become, the easier it is to literally advertise to them and redefine what intelligence is in the public consciousness. My #1 Blackpill temptation.
@LimeyLassen I don't doubt *some* people will get to earn degrees, but who? The Top 10% who get to take their school choice vouchers to the private charter school, meanwhile everyone else is getting No Child Left Behind-ed into low outcomes. We're about to once again go through an Administration that wants to disembowel the Department of Education, and this is a generation of kids who had 2+ years of learning already disrupted due to COVID. Meanwhile, Gen-Z isn't any less conservative or proactive against this downward spiral than Millenials. The attacks against public schools in previous decades already won; convincing the public that people like Musk are geniuses is just icing.
@@LimeyLassen I am confident there are plenty of Billionaires who would be fine with an agrarian society as long as they get to live in wherever the 'singapore' bit of it is. These people want a corporate dictatorship
my favorite videos are when you talk about social, historia and/or personal stories that are related science. im not a math or hard science person so theres a limit to what i can get from equations or theory’s but I could listen to Angela talk about science communication, water scams, science history, or academic fraud all day i swear.
Kurt Vonnegut told the story (I'm paraphrasing) where he went to a swank party and met a neurosurgeon. When the surgeon found out Kurt was a writer, he said, "Oh, when I retire, I plan to write!!" Kurt replied, "Great! When I retire I plan to do brain surgery!"
Please note that Dexter Holland, lead singer of Offspring, was studying chemistry before going big with the band in the 90s, after he accumulated his wealth he went back and finished his PhD in Chem/molecular biology, same goes for Brian May of the band Queen, PhD in physics
Billionaires, like ladies men, have found the important life hack... It does not matter if you are a , it matters to say that you are a . Your 'target group' will not notice the difference, and those who do notice - are not your 'target group' anyway.
That's why these weak demagogues want to reintroduce crypto serfdom by astroturfing powerful anti-intellectual political figures like trump. The soft power of these 'people' highly relies on the existence of very very stupid people.
Elon wants to be Iron Man so bad it makes him look stupid. It also makes Tony Stark look like a saint by comparison, and the further we go into this timeline, the funnier it is that Elon has a half-second cameo in the second Iron Man movie and that's as close as he'll ever get.
Isn't there a saying "if my grannie had wheels she'd been a bicycle"? Sure they could've studied physics, or linguistics or whatever - they chose to do something else. Once upon a time I might have had the opportunity to become a decent chess player - but I directed my efforts elsewhere and that possibility is no longer there.
No that's not the point. These billionaires are already not deserving of the credit or reward they get for their companies. Assuming the mantle of smartest person across all fields is required to justify their ridiculous position in the pseudo-meritocracy.
I think you give them too much credit. The vast majority of these people were born with the best education money can buy. That does NOT look the same as being an actual genius, a la Terence Tau or someone else. They just want you to think theyre the latter, and not that their parents paid for them to attend an Ivy League feeder boarding school like Philips Exeter.
Oh wow, _Atlas Shrugged_ as a satire is an amazing interpretation. I wish I could experience reading it that way, but there's no way in hell I'm going to re-read it now.
@@AndDiracisHisProphet Hold on he's back, let's see if he's still as sharp at... almost 90. Yeah idk i have seen great filmmakers greatly deteriorate by about 80.
...yeah, I enjoyed Atlas Shrugged back in the day too, but your defense is better than mine. Mine is, hard to explain, but it's probably about half that I was raised very right wing, and half unconscious rebellion against religion and feminine stereotypes, and also just wanting to read a book that many people considered "important"
Angela is a child of the late 20th century and was born in the U.S.A. Ayn Rand, OTOH, was a child of early 20th century and was born in Imperialist Russia. She lived through the Bolshevik Revolution and the ensuing civil war that led to the formations of the Soviet Union. It is no wonder that these two women have such significantly different points of view as regards business and workers. I recommend Angela read Ayn Rand's novel "We the Living" to get a better sense of Ayn Rand's roots and motivations.
There's an old Bob the Angry Flower comic titled "Atlas Shrugged One Hour Later" where all the billionaires that removed themselves from 'corrupt' society end up having to till the soil because now THEY have to do all the physical labour. It kinda perfectly condenses your criticism about the books plot into a single comic.
The book literally has one of the billionaires tilling the soil and enjoying the task. John Galt himself mostly does odd jobs like plumbing and repair work. An actress works as a waitress, Dagny as a maid, and Ayn's self insert was a fishmongers wife. The thing is they all had multiple jobs. A practical day job, and a long term passion project (the thing they did on the outside).
@@steffenbendel6031 he's convinced enough people that don't know better and now they have a literal vested interest in keeping the ruse going . He also does have a product at the end of the day even if it falls short of expectations he set up for it (this is where Elizabeth Holmes went wrong)
@@steffenbendel6031 Elon is the son of a South African diamond mining gazillionaire. He is one of those fortunate few who was born on third base and tells everyone they hit a triple. Starting out with unlimited funds is a swell way to make money.
Atlas Shrugged really makes more sense as a satire. It has always bothered me that of all of the industries in the world, she picked a railroad heiress as the protagonist. Is there any industry that was more dependent on government handouts? Between 1850 and 1871 the government (fed plus states) granted over 281k square miles of land to railroad companies. That is more than the size of Texas. John Galt's backstory was also nonsense. He was an engineer working at a privately owned company when he invented the static motor. But he was mad that the private company decided to pay its employees more, and he thought his coworkers were lazy idiots so he stole the companies IP and left. The government had nothing to do with what happened to him. Hank Rearden is the only character that made sense if it wasn't satire. I have no idea why he wasn't the protagonist.
That's a good point about the railroad industry. It's probably one of the most government-dependent industries of all time (right up there with agribusiness). I doubt Ayn Rand knew much of anything about railroads--or anything else. She claimed to be a philosopher, but also claimed that all philosophy since Aristotle was useless. This reminds me of Angela's science cranks who dismiss all of modern physics.
Atlas Shrugged emphatically was NOT intended as satire. Rand and her groupies thought it her crowning literary achievement. Others, not so much; Dorothy Parker famously said "“Atlas Shrugged is not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be THROWN, with great force.”
The ultimate problem IMO with conservatives and libertarians and the right is that their whole scheme is to play on your emotions and your sense of "duty". The right likes to put all the responsibility on the individual which sounds smart and it sounds correct, but it really is just a way to absolve corporations and bad guys for being bad. "Oh you got scammed by a company, well it's YOUR FAULT for being born stupid." "Oh you are poor and will never escape wage slavery? Sorry for being born poor." Ayn Rand always has these characters that are supposed to be perfect and things just work for them when they shouldn't in real life.
Ayn rand is a perfect example of the reason we don’t have more social services and the like. A bunch of normal people think that it is in fact 100% meritocratic and wealth is deserved, and that they could also get rich. But unfortunately, the average person is average.
The only thing I disagree with in your video is, when you asked if you were being too harsh on the billionaires. I just disagree with the premise that it's even possible to be too harsh to the billionaires.
We can have billionaires or we can have survival of the human race, but we can't have both. They should be taxed until there aren't any billionaires, and rich people aren't rich enough, to buy governments or newspapers.
Absolutely. You can't accidentally become a billionaire, it takes effort. Greedy, shady, often outright illegal effort. Unless you inherit the billions, in which case if you aren't actively losing it via lobbying to make billionaires impossible to exist, it's also impossible to be too harsh towards you.
As a physicist, I want you to know that I could have been a billionaire.
The uno reverse card move, I like it.
Same man. Same. But I’m not a physicist…
Being a billionaire doesn’t take smarts, it takes luck, so you’re not wrong.
@@polygondeath2361 and a lot of greed
i was about to comment exactly this 😂
As a chemist I want everyone to know I could have been Pablo Escobar.
Instead I pump liquid sugar into holes 😢
I feel like there was a chemist dude who was a bit like Pablo Escobar. Walter something....
Walter dick @@R_S747
@@R_S747 Waltuh. Why're you referencing the show under a physics video, Waltuh.
@@littlecousin5630 Put your pipette away, Waltuh.
Billionaire version of "could've gone pro" lmao
Underrated comment 🤣🤣
Never had the making of a varsity athlete.
Till they got the classic “knee injury”🤣
FOUR TOUCHDOWNS IN A SINGLE GAME, PEG!
"...if I hadn't joined the navy"
"Nanomachines son! 🗣🔥"
As a psychology student I want you to know that I could have been mentally stable
Well only insane people would deny that they are insane, if that helps hehe
Would work better if you claimed you could be Ewen Cameron.
underrated comment
seems like a stretch ;D
I can’t stop chuckling at “Bro, you have a billion dollars…just go to college “
Or build your own lab and go crazy. All these guys get mad science money and do boring things with their dosh.
Gotta keep going to those investor meetings at high end restaurants and golf courses bro. It's hard work to stay a billionaire.
The inclusion of google map directions was funny and when she said DO IT all i could think of was Shia Labeouf
Yeah, but that's actual work.
In billionaire defense, learning hard science post 40 is a lot harder than being 18-30.
As a high school chemistry teacher, I want you to know that I could have been Walter White.
Well that's still possible for you isn't it😂
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U are goddamn right
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It's the intellectual equivalent of the wannabe tough guy staple: "I almost joined the military."
Almost went pro in football at college until I took an arrow to the knee.
“I played college ball you know, could’ve gone pro if I hadn’t joined the Navy.”
“At some cushy Ivy League school”
“Try university of Texas!”
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Hey i didn't wanna be a tough guy but even i almost joined the military.
I wish you could see how close my fingers are right now, thats how close it was
It's all part of the myth of meritocracy. To laypeople (like those billionaires) the sciences and physics in particular have this sort of mythos of being for "smart people". If these billionaires do "smart things" then they must be smart. If they are smart then they must be competent. If they are competent and hard working then they must have earned their fortunes legitimately. Also you should listen to these smart, competent people; they know what's best.
It's all in service to the idea that hard work and competence will make you wealthy; therefore anyone who is wealthy must be hard working and competent.
Ignoring the fact that basically every billionaire and a solid chunk of millionaires in this country started out with more than most people will earn throughout several lifetimes.
I don't know if these people have internalized these ideas so hard that they are constantly trying to outwardly justify their wealth to themselves or if its all a grift, but the end result is the same. People who have wealth are trying to legitimize that wealth in the face of growing and stark inequality. Inequality that they have created (or at least taken advantage of and benefited from) to get their own wealth.
Well put, but you forgot about luck, timing & serendipity.
Malcolm Gladwell points out that Bill lucked into having upper middle class, good parents, lived near & had access to a free university computer lab AND was born in 1955, timed perfectly for the computer age boom.
If it wasn’t him, it would have been another kid just like him.
Perfect explanation
is it not ironic that you are reasoning on top of the exact same meritocracy ;) 1. You guys are the one assuming all this stuff, not the billionairs. Usually we call that projecting. 2. this meritocracy is exactly what you are using to justify ousting said person from commenting on physics, because YOU decided that he does not have the proper accolades to recieve the stamp of approval from mr physics gatekeeper chef in question.
How are you guys not seeing the hipocrisy here ?
@@dudeonbike800 Sure it wouldve been someone else. Just not anybody. And that is kinda the point you are trying to make - it is not trivial to do what bill or jobs did. Not if you are born in 1955 either...... How many people exist from that time in upper middle class, good parents, lived near and had access to a free university computer lab. You are implying that these factors produce certain results but you are really missing the crux of the story.
Bill and Steve was part of a relatively small group of people who realised what the computer could be like in the future. Their genious was more about conceptualizing a product that did not exist at the time, and being correct enough in your assumptions to be able to reap the benefits. Steve bought much of the iphone tech from Xerox, Xerox did not even consider these patents/inventions exciting...........
So while it tend to seem so, realising what the computer would turn into today was not trivial in 1970.
Sure it also requires some traits of cynicism and other bad traits to achieve stuff like this. No doubt about it. But that is more or less true for all leaders, whether in government or business.
@@jonaswox Oh dear, I don't think you understand how science works. Comment all you like, but if you want to be informed in your comments, then you need to back them up with evidence that your peers can review and check. Else, you're just on the level of Elon Musk declaring himself the greatest engineer in the world and then inflicting the Cybertruck on us.
I wonder if Albert Einstein was a botanist every billionaire would be like “I smelled a flower once. It smelled nice”
You guys think so much of your 4 year bachelors. According to you all if you didn't finish a bachelors you cant comment on physics. Even if you read tons of books take lectures and hire 100 s of physicists according to you all the 4 year degree is still king. Silly af.
@@greatestever9616strawman
@@greatestever9616 spoken like someone who doesn't know the academic hierarchy. If you do an undergrad you're still a pissant to postgrad students doing their Masters or PhD. Even when you're a postdoc you're "just" a tutor who couldn't get a real position to the tenured professors. And the professors are closeted losers to the ones out in the private sector flogging VC startups dreaming of being the next billionaire
@@greatestever9616 If its so easy to get the degree, why didn't they get it? They can afford it, right? Silly af
@@greatestever9616basically anyone can read a book. It doesn't mean they understand it.
Edit: you have to *earn* a degree, not just read a few books and feel good about it.
I was a professional musician for 25 years. Now I’m in college for physics. The romantic, overblown notions about music and physics are remarkably similar.
I was thinking about this because I've been really involved in the contemporary poetry world and non-poets are always describing things as "poetry" or maybe even talking about reading poetry but nobody actually reads poetry, nobody buys poetry books outside maybe of like one poet they read in high school or college and decided they liked and they bought one book of that poet's and look at it every once in awhile. It's wildly romanticized but in reality it's just this niche, not-very-popular genre of writing.
Your right, poetry is pretty niche. The only example I know of a contemporary well known poet is Philip Larkin, who wrote, "This Be The Verse", a poem about how parents cause problems to their kids.
I also read poetry online by a creative guy who makes drawings and poems about fishing. Well not fishing exactly, I made a typo and wrote an h where there was supposed to be a t. He's pretty good and knows how to enjoy life to the fullest.
What do they say about music?
so true
Your 3rd sentence is very unclear, ambiguous even. Consider cleaning it up? Like are you literally talking about the notions? What notions? That is pretty content free. Are you talking about the aspects of the two that are similar? Usually its math and music being compared that way. But it could be physics.
I've always wanted to do physics, but life had a different plan for me; so now I exploit people and systems for money.
But even that you did not study it, you still follow the rules of physics, even to the degree of quantum gravity. Real protege.
No need to exploit anyone. Just find the right people for your team and enter into voluntary transactions with them to exchange your money for their effort and expertise.
@@brianernzen2509 - Tell that to Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Nike, Apple, the oil industry, the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, and so on and so forth.
Or you can continue to lick boots, if that's your thing.
@@brianernzen2509
You're not exploiting the system, it is exactly how the system is supposed to work.
As a programmer who is interested in physics for no good reason - I do find it plausible that the billionaires mentioned are interested in physics.
That does not necessarily mean anyone should be interested in their opinions about it ^^
People who boast about there IQ are losers ~ Stephan Hawking
@@altavatan1558are they even bragging about this?
I also think it’s plausible - even likely- that billionaires are interested in physics. They probably should get better at professing their ignorance on matters of physics but I don’t think we should expect them to stop talking about it. That seems kind of gate keepy.
I'm shocked by how many people don't even get a little whiff of the horror that is awaiting us. The world is a giant circus and you are seeing evil, very powerful people that
1.: have the ability to change what is considered reality & factual science.
2.: want to put chips in your brain.
Since 30 years they talk about this mysterious changes that are gonna happen to the world and this major changes that will happen to humanity. You are living in a time of transition, a transition that none of us ever gave consent to.
They just happen to be billionaires.. They are human like anyone else and have interests like anyone else. What a shocking discovery.
I don’t think its weird at all for these people. It’s about their ego. Physics, in pop culture is shorthand for smart. “It’s rocket science.”
I think, because this is your day job, there is no mystique for you. But to the vast majority of people who don’t have a STEM degree, it’s a kind of an appeal to the authority that physics, as an idea, has.
I think you could call it the halo effect. That these billionaires want their decisions to be regarded as coming from a great esoteric intellect, that is beyond the questioning of mere mortal man. That, I believe is the point. Physics, for most, is inscrutable, and so there is this acceptance of what a physicist says as being beyond them, but true. Billionaires want their choices to be seen in the same light. I really think that’s the end goal. Don’t question me or my greed. It’s as above you, as physics is.
Very well put. 👏 👏
wow this is insightful, thank you
just commenting to say, this is a very good comment
That's really a great way to present this argument.
Do you write? You should if you don't. You have a great voice.
“I wish I could study physics.”
“Do it, then.”
An average person could say, “I have to earn a living,” or “I have to take care of my aged mother,” but billionaires don’t have those excuses, do they?
I’ve got to admit you made me have a grudging respect for Jeff Bezos, because he said “I quit physics because it was really hard,” instead of giving some cock and bull story about why he’s not a physicist.
"But it seemed so easy for those other guys" _is_ a cock and bull story. It's hard for basically everyone. It's just hard. Of course there are genius edge cases, but those don't stop the other 99.9% of students who want to put in the work.
@@narfwhals7843 "Seemed easy for everyone else" I don't think is a deliberate lie because many people come to those conclusions because they don't have contact with other people who struggle with the same issue. Especially if your interest was for physics and most others seem to be measured
This is not to make Bezos look like a relatable dude, the dude's still a vicious robber baron who's an absolute idiot in many things he thinks he knows about, but I wanted to point out that this is a very common emotional logic that goes through people that struggle with a particular subject.
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 Yeah I was going to say the same something similar - those guys he was talking about were like a handful of guys at Princeton who were probably better than Bezos - those guys may have had their struggles but from Bezos' eyes, they probably just had it easier which to him translated to "just got it"
@@narfwhals7843Pretty sure Bezos was talking about a very specific handful of people though.
To be fair, I dropped out of college to get a job to take care of my sick mom. I ended up coming back after she got better, but sick mom was more of a deterrent than a motivating factor.
I too went to college to pursue physics and realized I was too stupid and in way over my head and dropped out. Where is my billion dollars?
Same here 😞
You gotta be ruthless instead.
How do you know you were too stupid for physics? Was it because the other students kept talking about how smart they are? or was it because the teachers were bad at teaching physics? I found both of those in the same physics class.
@@javiernajar1457Likely the math.
@@javiernajar1457Do you have any idea the math?
Common misconception to think that extreme wealth equals high intelligence.
its common because of the insane soft propaganda we suffer every day sponsored by these same billionaires.
I am an engineer and actually these billionairs also do this with engineering. Elon really wants you to know he built spaceX and is responsible for all their success. Not the hoards of young engineers(and physicists) that are underpaid but working on pure passion. I absolutely agree on your points related to physics, but I would extend the same thing to engineering, granted they are very adjacent fields already. It is really telling how powerful media and propaganda is when you see how successful the billionaires are at pushing this narrative.
As an engineer, I appreciate this addendum.
As an engineer and founder, I’m here to tell you that starting and growing a business is 10x harder than being an engineer.
@@El_Diablo_12 they don’t wanna hear this man
I'm so tired of pointing out that Musk IS NOT an engineer. He couldn't pass the FE or PE.
@@El_Diablo_12 He’s not particularly good at that either. Him and Trump have failed upwards because of pre-existing wealth.
As a theoretical physicist, I want to know that i could have been a theoretical billionaire.
u are theoretically correct
I am a theoretical billionaire without even being a theoretical physicist 😊
How many semesters until you get the "actual physicist" degree?
😹😹😭@@moonlight-hm4bh
I have a theoretical degree in physics.
Doing a single integral and saying you have a physics background is extremely on-brand for Elon Musk.
You can find people online who treat the fact that they can do calculus as a mark of genius. I am embarrassed for these people.
I think the Twitter-posted 1st-year homework is a prime example of exactly how he got rich: pitching to people who can't see through the fact that his knowledge is quite basic. Once you can see it, he's a joke. He is 100% bluff. It's a reflection of these times & the dynamics that drive this era.
muskrat was too busy learning ‘more about manufacturing than anybody else in the world at this time’
@@alastairleith8612 The moron literally said that with a straight face too.
How did the interviewer refrain from saying "Do you think the witnesses to the nearly 3000 automated driverless cars that have crashed after being manufactured by you would think that?"
@@alastairleith8612 He does seem to manufacture a lot of stuff
Bill Gates definitely could have been a professional mathematician. He was a top-of-his-cohort math major at Harvard and had a first author publication as an undergrad in math which is extremely rare. Personally (as a mathematician) I have zero problem with him talking about math or math research-he walks the walk. He’s done real, serious, published research in the field.
BUT to the best of my knowledge he’s done exactly 0 physics in any serious capacity ever?
I never knew that Bill Gates published in math, do you know if he has an Erdos number?
@ yup! Erdos number of 4
Remember this :
Oprah once asked how Michelle Obama got over feeling intimidated sitting at big tables filled with smart, powerful men and Michelle said, _You realize pretty quickly that a lot of them aren’t that smart._
yup. try my commentariat. " We agree, largely. My brother , who was booted from MIT because of pol activity 'Rosa Luxembourg group he formed 1968. Friend of Noam Chomsky at time, feminist fam, Mom internationally, dad director research Western Electric, 58 to 64, mom held national org presidencies, taught history women in science, Princeton grad seminar, much more. A scientist uses the scientific method, even in the humanities...technicians and technologists are, if scientific, only in VERY narrow specializations. Those called scientists are sometimes competent in one area, but a joke elsewhere, Michio Kaku at the bottom, Tyson, who waffles endlessly and who said first trillionaire would 'solve asteroid mining.' !!! Knowing what does not understand is hardest...and the developmentally infantile tend to be narcissistically and SCIENTISTICALLY delusional. Trump only chooses such lowest lifes. Here are related commentaries, written to other channels.
Science tech fantasy is fun, but virtually all high tech seen there is impossible...force fields, space vessels capable of going interstellar distances... Locating even single-celled life within hundreds of lightyears...life that survives 4 billion years, taking most of that time just to get to eukaryotes, complex single celled life...'transporting' teleporting, is impossible in EVERY sense, starting with accurate measurement at the quantum...and to the macroscopic...range
There are also endless reasons why no life form can travel from star to star. Even if we had 2 earth-mass planets in our orbit at the Trojan Points, one with life...different evolution, so even if DNA based, different proteins and the rest...one lifeless...we could not live on either....terraforming is laughable....a billion years?
When coal is gone~~oil and gas, recoverable, gone in a century, more or less....machine age ends forever, assuming humans survive Anthropocene, as unknowable NOW, as life elsewhere will be.....forever. Hand and hoof, stone and wood...just like 300 years ago...some charcoal and even coke, artificial coal...from cellulose. But we use a million years deposits of life YEARLY...to have enough wood to supply billions....in a thousand years, if we survive Anthropocene...unknowable that, now.... THEN, no computers...hell, no bicycles. Medical laboratories, vaccines, antibiotics, chemotherapy, air conditioners...and the poisons mined and made will take a short geologic age to be reburied below the only biosphere we can ever even KNOW of. Anti-science theocracies, far worse than magagagers, would likely rule... think bronze and iron age, and not much of either. When it takes more in fuel to mine fuel...think, how deep and dirty MACHINES dig down to until the Collapse... "
Within a week at Princeton I found my polymath parents were right...most successful people are only competent in a narrow area, esp. if in hard science...cookbook scientists open a book and it tells them what to think and do. Generalist here...fantasy rules, with money, almost in all...racism, nationalism, Social Darwinism...idea rich are intelligent, adult, responsible, educated, rational, consistent and empathic !!!!!!!!...sexism, literal theisms, mysticisms...and worst now...fantasy of future high tech 'cures' for....high tech. Infants and speculative, untethered adolescents run the world. We evolved as scavenger, forager/gatherer, hunter/predator, fishers. Competence and survival does not require understanding, largely. Competition trumps cooperation. More later. I grew up with the rich and influential. Sigh. It doesn't look good, when the roosters come home to rousts, after the boasts. Drill baby drill makes the few richest a little richest, VERY NEAR FUTURE...after old white men die, they care not...no mirror neurons. Tramp would sell Ivantkaka for a farthing, since she stopped giving him lap-dances as a tween. see the clip...and Junior recently, near dad, finger in left jacket pocket, then rubbing on right side teeth....the nervously glancing stage right at daddums dearest. see the clip...can't unsee any of them. DANKE.
Michelle Obama is not smart
Under-appreciated comment.
Coming from her, that is pretty funny.
Michelle calmly replies to (billionaire) Oprah: "Uhhhh.... the same way you did."
I like the "just do the thing" advice. That's what Queen's guitar player, Brian May, did. He got his phd in astrophysics in 2007.
That's awesome
@@reikoshea Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the guy but I respect that about him.
To be fair, he earned a BSc in physics (with Honours) decades prior to earning his Phd, he was offered a research position with lead to his doctorate at the time, but decided music was more important. He's one of those enviable people who are both incredibly academically and artistically gifted.
And he'd already done some of the work leading to his dissertation.
*_Dr Becky_* has a video reviewing the published book of *_Brian May's_* dissertation.
It has pictures from his time doing the _field work_ for it at a research station.
And he wasn't even a billionaire! I feel like these billionaires are maybe just full of shit.
This happens with every other rich or semi-rich stranger I meet too! The moment I mention I'm a physicist they will casually bring up that they started studying physics when young, then they quickly figured out it's a pointless pursuit, and they then switched to studying x, y, z that made them rich. And then they will be mean to you too
That sounds like negging, lol.
It sounds like they are jealous of you.
When smart people meet another smart person often they think, "This is great, now I can have an interesting conversation".
But when smart people meet an insecure person, the insecure person tries to drag them down, to make themselves look better by comparison. People who do that, are not worth keeping in your life, because they intentionally annoy you, every time they get the chance.
@@davidestabrook5367 ding ding ding. They’re insecure about their intellect surely.
If the only point of life is money then everyone will be a wh0re.
Omg, this is such a great observation. Hats off to you.
You really are the only one who noticed this. But once you say it, we all see it. It’s just like how a great comedian tells a joke, observing the obvious thing everybody missed, but we immediately all see it once it’s pointed out to us.
Many publicly successful entrepreneurs want to be known as visionaries. Society views these entrepreneurs as IQ giants, which they frequently are.
But even these entrepreneurs are insecure before physicists and mathematicians, who the entrepreneurs regard to be the highest IQ savants.
So like everyday people want to associate with entrepreneurs, the entrepreneurs want to associate with academic physicists.
As an engineer, I want you to know I could have been Taylor Swift.
😂😂😂
Found the SwiftOnSecurity alt.
Don't forget that every Taylor Swift track produced, and every Taylor Swift concert performed, involves the work of hundreds of people who don't make nearly as much money from it as Swift does. Every billionaire exploits, even the nice ones.
@DdavidoffC the artists aren't the ones making it expensive like it is. Sure, I think they would of they could. But that's the ticket master as it currently stands. It's a title that shouldn't even exist.
I could have been Taylor Swift, except I'm too short.
People have weird ideas about physics. Every time I tell a "normal" (i.e. non-nerd) person that I have a post-graduate degree in physics, they immediately go "OH MY GOD, you must be SOOOO SMART, I could NEVER imagine doing something like that!!!" And it's nice to be told you're smart, but people take it to a level that's kinda. . . weird and off-putting. I don't want people to think of me as some kind of brainologist lording over the prole idiots with my massive intellect. But of course billionaires do want that.
Yeah same. I'm in an undergraduate program for just general physics and everyone treats me like I'm some galaxy level genius. Sure, I can be, but I'm not anymore genius than someone studying literature, or even a janitor.
Idk. Maybe it's something to do with the whole myth of thr "Great Man" concept where one single person will save the world with their genius intelligence or whatever.
tbh I think a lot of people also say that because they fall back on stereotypical responses when talking about stuff like that with people they don't know well. I've noticed that I always say the same sort of stuff to people doing sciences despite the fact that the people I know who do those things do not appear to be smarter in any way outside of their degree. in fact, they're often pretty bad at other subjects just like most other people. turns out people are just better at different things most of the time! and yet I'll probably never stop doing the 'oooh that sounds hard, I could never do that! you poor soul' routine lol🤷🏻♀️ apologies
@@chickenfoot2423 i study the Chinese language and i don't even know math because I'm lazy...
But certain people think i must be SUCH a genius because i make time in my day to memorize Chinese characters
Literally just rote memorization and some simple grammar bro, but because most people can't even imagine where to start, they think it's the devils work.
You live in an anti-intellectual country
I teach science and some mathematics at a highschool while finishing my masters in physics, and it has given me a new perspective on my degree and relationship with the STEM fields: it is actually and truly difficult for a majority of people. Like a different type of difficult than what I think physics students would experience. Going from a concrete phenomena to an abstraction and mapping that to other applicable systems and problems is actually a major challenge. So embrance it just a little, you are a smartass
I tell my students this all the time: If you gave me a billion dollars, I'd go to college for the rest of my life!
Same. I wish I could afford to just keep going to formal school, or hiring tutors. 😅
Learning is so fun❤
You can't teach yourself?
I would set up a workshop, a dedicated place for blacksmithing, steelworking and woodworking, a stocked up electronical and mechanical components storage, a fully geared up car garage, a chemistry + electronics lab with everything you could ever need like fumehoods and spectrum analyzers, a dedicated library (maybe adjacent to a nice place for reads and thoughts like an orangery where all my favourite plants would go?) and a novelty/antique science/technology objects collection... and then I'd have enough to do til the end of my life.
For me, it's funny and ridiculous santa checklist, but a billionaire literally would set this up (rather *have* it set up for them) in an afternoon.
@@alsetsolar3450 As enjoyable and rewarding as that is, it's not the same as being directly taught by an expert. The big thing you get out of a tertiary education isn't the lectures, it's the labs/tutorials/other sessions where you are directly interacting with the educators. Like, I got heaps out of all the lectures I attended about biology and environmental science! But I could have accessed the information in those lectures myself if I wanted to. Sure, it's valuable that some very intelligent, very well-informed people *curated* that info for me. It probably would have been a significantly slower process without it. But ultimately, I could have dug all those things up on my own.
What I couldn't do outside the university is have the long discussions with various experts. I couldn't have several hours dissecting various organisms with the help of someone with a PhD in biology, every week, for most of a semester. I couldn't submit papers to an expert and get their feedback on how well I understood the subject and on whether the way I'm exploring it is valuable. I'm planning to do my honours by research next year, again under the direct supervision of a highly educated and experienced biologist, and that, too, is something you can't do on your own. Or at least you can, but it won't be the same kind of learning experience as doing it with that type of expert help.
Discounting the fancy bit of paper I got at the end, which I'm guessing wouldn't be a major goal of someone using their billion dollars to go back to college forecer:p
@alsetsolar3450 Teaching yourself is extremely time inefficient if money is no object.
I read atlas shrugged knowing it wasn't satire, which made it even more hilarious.
It's two satires fighting each other. One was unintentional. The end.
"I really enjoyed this book because I thought it was a joke" is the most brutal review of Ayn Rand I've ever heard.
Brutally childish that is.
@@bokramubokramu8834can you explain what she wrongly interpreted from the book?
She didn't even get the author's name right. Her description is utterly wrong, like she only read every 10th page. For example, John Galt was not a millionaire, but a blue collar worker and philosopher.
@@ttthttpdCool pedantry and good job missing the point.
@@ttthttpdgetting a few facts wrong about a book you read more than ten years ago is understandable. I would say that wiki quote effectively summarizes the book.
OMG the part when you say that these billionaires could just spend their money in private physics tutors and actually learn physics is absolutely great
They can afford private time with the best professors and tutors and they just dont. its wild
@@pacotaco1246 Is it wild or lazy or are we missing the point? What if they just want to be associated with names like Einstein while obscuring the fact that they are actually just a bunch of greedy dicks.
They already graduated from Billionaire U
nooo, they work 3 trillions of hours per week those men. they don't have time to learn anything. it's tuesday and they have to go on their seventh podcast of the week!!!
It's funny to hear billionaires complain that people don't like billionaires because they could literally choose to not be a billionaire at any time.
i know this is still loosely connected to science, but we genuinely need more class consciousness content like this
It’s great to see how this broad issue manifests in specific industries, subcultures, professions, and areas of study. Otherwise we all might think it’s a quirk of our immediate social groups. People sometimes bristle at phrases like “class consciousness” and “solidarity” in the abstract, but videos like this make it clear what that means in reality: despite our fragmentation into various niches (profession, etc) these commonalties can help us relate to and help each other.
@@theonlyever I hate it the most when people divide as white collar and blue collar workers like they're the ones taking from eachother. Motherfucker you're all being exploited to hell and being used as tools by capital.
@@theonlyever well put!
@@deepwuwu I think the real issue is having history and english as a separate subjects. English is meant to teach students how to analyze a piece of media and understand what it may really be saying whereas history tends to be treated as merely a factual class. They should be largely interconnected and students should learn to start making their own connections in the real world rather than just books.
Moar buubs
5:52 There’s definitely an incorrect assumption about the correlation between financial success and intelligence. Unfortunately, this assumption seems to be so fundamental within the base sets of people that even if you showed them that no such correlation exists, they would still operate as if it does.
The reason these billionaires don't just (actually) learn physics is that it would require confronting the fact that there are lots of not-rich people way smarter than they are.
The corollary to that is that a lot of normal people don't want to believe that there are lots of dumb people way richer than they are.
Yeah that's the weird flipside of this, like aren't they implying that there are like thousands of people out there who could be much richer than them? Like why aren't all the people with physics degrees billionaires? Did they all just decide they didn't want to be rich?
@@hedgehog3180 It's this ugly idea that the physicists are smart because they're smart but they're also dumb for deciding to use their skills to help humanity instead of getting rich
And they wouldn't always get to be right, and fawned over
If physicist are so smart, why don't they just solve our global problems?
Guess what physicists are not actually smart, they are just good a physics.
I once met a poet who said they tried to take physics courses to expand their options for metaphor. They said, “it was actually just a lot of math.”
My favorite high school math teacher was a physicist but he loved physics math more advanced than offered in a high school so he just taught advanced math instead and he was amazing at it
this video is actually a pitch for Bill Gates to pay Angela millions of dollars to teach him physics
😂😂😂 send it to him
Anything to distract him from actively making Windows worse with every update.
ah that explains the winter cleavage.
i volunteer for bill gates's physics harem
@@Ballosopheraptor he's paying people to do that for him now
I read Atlas Shrugged in 3rd grade & thought it was brilliant. It's pretty persuasive for 8 year olds. Any adult who falls for Ayn Rand is ridiculous to me.
I love this episode.
"no physicist would ever think they're smarter than a biologist" at this point in the video, this is the only thing I have to disagree on. A big part of physicists I know, do exactly that. Think their smarter and better than non physicists. There are a few fields they respect, but still think they're the pinnacle of intelligence. And this opinion(?) is being taught in university too. Many professors think that way. Often they don't even notice it. It's internalised.
Biologist here. Many of the physicists-turned-biologists that are now tackling problems in their quantitative biology labs most definitely do think they're smarter than all of the biologists. It is also true that many of them are very good and make excellent collaborators. They often bring with them a different set of experimental and analytical tools.
Yeah especially towards biology I've def encountered some snobbery and it never fails to piss me off. But I'm lucky in that my circles are pretty good at avoiding that. The only universally demeaned subject is non-accounting related business students
Well, that's foolish. A single person can only learn so much and can only spend so much time staying up-to-date in their chosen field(s), so they're simply not going to have all the knowledge people in other fields do. It's what everyone in the sciences needs to learn if they ever want to stop chasing their own tail and get any interesting research done.
I think there is a kernel of truth in that idea, in that biology courses just do not require a high enough level of understanding in maths. This becomes an issue when these students go on to do real research, where they struggle to understand the full implication of the statistical models they use for said research.
I did a bioengineering course at a "world's top 10 uni", and my physiology lecturer didn't understand the difference between Σ(1/n) and 1/(Σ(n)) when talking about vascular resistance, even when I specifically pointed that out to him after the lecture.
@@NiKoNethe Sure but I don't really think "how high a level of math is required" should be the sole factor in rating how "intelligent" a field of study is, which so many people seem to believe.
We are all Physicists, we have read all the books written by Feynman
Angela cinematic universe is coming together
The many many books written by Feynmann and Jesus and Socrates
We are all made of stars, I hear.
I understood that reference...because of this channel.
I was born having read every book written by Feynman. I am that good.
There is a comment by Dan Olsen from Folding ideas - tech bros understand one complicated thing, so they think all other things are less complicated.
That was true before ~2000. Nowadays they’re all MBAs, and understand one thing: making money.
@@TheGotoGeek I was about to answer exactly that 🙂
@@TheGotoGeek "It's not about making money, it's about taking money. Destroying the status quo, because the status is...not...quo. The world is a mess and I just need to...rule it." -Dr. Horrible
So your counter to the point that they know one complicated thing is to say they only know one thing?
This has always been a thing with technical people- have you ever met an engineer?
These billionaires could call themselves Theoretical physicists in the sense that Theoretically they could have been physicists :)
These billionaires are so smart. Did you know they have read ALL the books by Richard Feynman?
Wow that's incredible. There must be a lot of those... right... right...
I can thumb through pages and pretend to be smart too!😅
I met a child today, no joke 5 years old. She has read all, and I mean all, of the books written by Feynman. Genius
Bill Gates actually had PERSONAL bongo lessons from Feynman
I understood that reference.
The video where that woman was doing hard arithmetic in her head and Bill Gates was just like "that's right!" felt so patronizing and cringe
I KNOW RIGHT what even was that?
I think it's meant to be an attempt at humor.
@@hedgehog3180 how so
Not saying he isn't a douche, but that was self-deprecating humour
I'm pretty sure Bill was masking that he didn't know the answers lol
“no physicist would ever say they were smarter than a biologist.” Ah if only it were true.
💯💯💯💯
Lol, this is like saying no mechanical engineer would ever say they were better than any other type of engineer.
The funniest thing to me is how I've always found physics itself to be so intuitive, and how physics curricula were all so focused on the math involved but no billionaire claims to have been an aspiring mathematician
It's virtue signaling for investors. That's it.
A year ago I wouldn't have a clue, but now it is clear to me they did this as a show off for shareholders. They did so they were perceived as the most intelligent in and trustworthy back when investment was looking for expansion and smart people.
Now, it is different however. They have changed because they perceive investors are looking for other traits. They talk about AI, AI, Ai, everywhere. They shamelessly don't present as a smart person but a ruthless one with employees. They say cranky things like you don't need college anymore, and AI will replace us all. Even RTO mandates are part of this ruthless boss imaginery.
Underappreciated comment.
At that point, the only thing they cannot buy is book smart
@@errrzarrr But what about ✨️quantum AI✨️?
I mean, it definitely used to be for shareholders / potential investors, but another term for those people is just "social circle". Those are just the humans who they were around and wanted the approval of, and I don't just mean in order to get investment dollars out of them. They're human beings with egos and very little left that constrains what they do or say.
Totally different topic, RTO mandates are not the same. That's mostly the 10s or 100s of millions of dollars in capital investment that is going down the drain if employees aren't using those physical spaces so they can write off those expenditures.
How weird is it that I am experiencing very same thing? Good to know that I am not alone.
I'm into physics. I like injecting myself with random substances and seeing what it does to my humours
I bet your bile levels are off the charts
That sounds more like chemistry or biochemistry to me ;)
@@Ateesh6782 Explaining the joke, just in case: 'Physic' is an obsolete (14th C) term for medicine and the medical profession, which survives in the term 'physician' to refer to a doctor.
@brycecarr362 My bad, didn’t notice you posted your comment in the 14th century. ;) (Not being malicious, just tongue-in-cheek; I’m a linguist and etymology buff. I also have a good sense of all four homours. ;) )
@@NameRealperson My bad, didn’t notice you posted your comment in the 14th century. ;) (Not being malicious, just tongue-in-cheek; I’m a linguist and etymology buff. I also have a good sense of all four homours. ;) )
I remember when I was young, like 8 years old, I was writing a story. I wanted to have a super smart character, and I was struggling to come up with things that smart people do (since I was 8). I asked my mom what were some things that smart people did. She said quantum mechanics and rocket science. I wrote that my character did those things as hobbies.
The fact that I shared this anecdote from my childhood means that my net worth should now be 100 billion dollars.
Really loving the “physics is a law, everything else is suggestion” from the guy constantly breaking and bribing his way out of laws every day forever. That’s super neat.
These people remind me of when I was a college freshman. I loved attending colloquiums and looking through graduate textbooks, not understanding a single thing anyone ever said, but still patting myself on the back at how smart it made me feel lmaooo
You can understand a lot of grad books in math (peculiarly if they are well written enough to hold you hand through the concepts and assume no knowledge)
That's missing the point @@camcorl7921
A physicist is most confident during the first term of their sophomore year of undergrad. That's when we reach the peak of the Dunning-Kruger curve.
@@camcorl7921 oh I’m sure, but at that stage in my education I looked through textbooks for vibes, not information
I did something like that as a kid and I think I did kinda get something out of it in that it simply meant that I had seem the words, graphs and so on and didn't have to learn those as well before I started actually learning about a subject. Simply being vaguely familiar with a thing before you start actually learning can be a huge help since it means you have to spend less effort on memorizing stuff. I think I still sorta do this unconsciously today where it's only later that I realize that I didn't actually understand jack shit, I just thought I did because I recognized something.
"If it's so important to you, just do the thing."
This whole bit reminded me of Dexter Holland from The Offspring. He paused his studies in molecular biology to be a rock star, then went back to school and earned his PhD in 2017.
It was important to him, so he did the thing.
oh the guy i know that did that is Brian May the guitarist of Queen, he has a masters in astronomy iirc.
OK, different genre, but reminds me of 70s progger Peter Hammill broke up his band and got his astrophysics degree at Oxford and then got the band back together.
@@alveolate Bryan May actually got his PhD in 2007. That's true passion.
That’s so cool!!
That is cool. What if someone has 3 passions though, besides their career? I think it's fine to *not do the thing* and still be fascinated by it.
As a sonographer with a degree in Ancient Roman History, I'd like to tell you all about quantum quantum quantum
Hey, I'm a biochemist, so I know even more quantums than just quantum quantum quantum.
@@rot5200Quadruple Quantum? The Ultimate Quantum
Quantum quantum? Quantum quantum. 😢Quantum quantum quantum!🤣Quantum quantum
quando, quando, quando. Richard Englebert Feyman.
You have to Quan tuah entangle on that thang
As a biochemist, I want you to know that I could have been a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist
I can tell you why billionairs love physics: because they studied physics in high school
When we grew up in the 80s, physics was the king of sciences. For our parents generation, it was the science that gave us the atom bomb, satellites, the moon landing. So when we studied physics in high school it made us feel smarter than everyone. "Wow, we understand reality in a different level" . And that feeling stuck.
On a side note: anyone knows if she reviewed "the moon is a harsh mistress" ? I think that book influenced the techbro mindset as much as Ayn Rand
TANSTAAFL
Definitely formative for a budding techbro
There is no difference between the highschool physics thaught today or 40 years ago.
This is such an odd comparison, why does that affect billionaires only? You do know that there are billionaires of different ages too right? And that non billionaires have also gone to school, what are you on about
Right about the time that physics was starting to run out of steam. At least that's what Lee Smolin has argued, but Angela I don't think agrees.
Hits home.
@@bossle6834 The way physics is taught in high school hasn't changed, but the public perception and esteem of it as a discipline has. Nowadays there's a common notion of physics being a "dead" field and that there are no more huge breakthroughs occurring like there were in the 20th century.
"Does it count as philanthropy if you just horde your wealth like a little tiny dragon, and then sometimes throw some pennies at malaria?" lolololol
Yes it is, just ask Warren Buffet!
If he didn’t have billions, he wouldn’t be able to donate billions to help solve malaria. She’s idiotic.
There's actually a lot more Gates does with his money other than just "throw it at problems" but the point wouldn't be as catchy if she were to include that. Actually go educate yourself on his philanthropic work, come back and tell me he's this big bad monster that's the same as every other billionaire.
@@BUSeixas11if he truly was a philanthropist, he’d donate all the fucking billions and stop being a billionaire altogether
@@timbelcijan9858lol stop bootlicking
You are one of the smartest most insightful people I've encountered on the Internet. And you actually do have a PhD in physics.
lmao "I thought it was a joke" is possibly the most savage burn to Objectivism possible and I love it
The reason that they all pick physics instead of botany, or even biology, or whatever, is that physics is about the fundamental baseline of reality (or that’s the idea at least). It’s not just that they think it’s the hardest one. It’s saying “I understand the fundamental workings of the universe man, that’s why the pocket MP3 player I put my name on is so futuristic and awesome!” They also all like to claim computer science.
The people yearn for philosophy, but the prestige of that field has taken a massive hit this past century so now physics is the next best thing
@ hmmm, yeah, makes sense
It really does help you build a pocket MP3 player though. Bontany does not.
@@CmdrTobs It doesn't. There isn't a single advance in theoretical physics that contributed to the design elements that go into an iPod lol
@@dialecticsjunkie7653 So now it's "theoretical physics" and with that slight of hand the goal posts are moved.
And I'll also assume if I push harder, you'll claim you only meant current theoretical concepts, not the theoretical physics of yesteryear that underwrites semiconductor behaviour or cheap high capacity storage etc... that make MP3's, Mpeg etc viable - which is all a direct application of 20th Cen. theoretical physics.
If your company banked on optical storage media being the future rather than SLC, MLC etc...... that literally is lack of physics understanding at the highest levels. Thinking that blue rays or even ‘uv' rays were the future..... lack of degree level physics in senior management.
It reminds me of the Duchess in Pride and Prejudice saying something to the effect of “I don’t play but if I did, I’d be brilliant.”
Lady Catherine de Burgh
I heard an interview about Elon Musk recently where the person said “I like that he’s successful. I like that he’s an outsider, an engineer” and the interviewer interrupts to say “Well he’s not that much of an outsider” and as I was listening I was sure she was about to say “Well he’s not that much of an engineer” 😅 I don’t have any experience in journalism like she does though, I only got accepted into a PhD program for engineering 😂
My favorite bit of Schadenfreude regarding Ayn Rand is how after she built her coterie of objectivist friends including her boyfriend, said boyfriend informed her that one of the other objectivists was objectively younger and prettier.
I just hope that the ideologies of those people are just too unstable to hold together without infighting long enough to come into effect, just like that.
NGL she's either really confused or really good at being a pick me. Though of course, pick mes ultimately get unpicked when they're not as good looking or don't behave a specific way enough at some point.
@@ericpmoss I guess Aphrodite shrugged this time around
Dude, Ayn Rand also ended up falling into poverty and using government aid, the very thing she claimed to be against from the start.
If she decided to fall into poverty and pull herself up or at least maintain a livable status in poverty, I could have at least praised her unshakable character. . . . . I could have. . . . :/
@@Darth_Bateman She died a millionare, she used the government aid out of spite because she was paying for it involuntarily.
I’m so glad to hear you talk about Stephen Wolfram. I do not have the knowledge to critique what he says 90% of the time but my vibes are never wrong and something just felt off, then finally he did a long conversation with Nassim Nicolas Taleb about medical science and Taleb on that occasion was spot on and Wolfram just heaped scorn on medical scientists asking the most rudimentary questions, shouting at the sky, seemingly unable to compute that datasets in medicine are utterly different to his field. I wanted to make a video talking about that exact chat but figured it was way too niche and frankly I felt nervous
Aww man I'd love to see you talk about it! Steven Wolfram fascinates me. I wonder if anything will eventually come of his physics program or if he's gone irreparably off the rails.
Please make a video on Wolfram!
Omg pls
I attended a lecture Wolfram gave when "A New Kind of Science" came out. The professors in the room basically ridiculed him. I didn't think he deserved it, but it would certainly be good to get your take about this chat.
Seconding a vid on this
Weird VIP billionaires talking about physics without proper a background always reminds me of the former German chancellor Angela Merkel, who had studied physics at the University of Leipzig (iirc) and left with a diploma and she NEVER blabbed about the nature of physics in any TV show or interview.
To be fair, her doctor rerum natura was _only_ in Quantum Chemistry, not Physics ...
@ThomasSMuhn i didnt know her doctorate was in quantum chemistry. I dont follow politics in general. But if I recall she basically bailed out the euro a few times too.
Its really hard to think of many things more impressive than a doctorate in quantum chemistry, running an entire country, and saving the worlds first centralized multinational currency.
What an absolute beast.
Wikipedia says she studied physics. Don't know how accurate that is.
@@Fitz0furythat is some approaching Isaac Newton level, who also was at one point head of the English mint.
Her PhD is publicly available
Cameras: rolling
Billionaires: you know, I'm somewhat of a physician myself
The billionaires have a credibility problem and they're looking for solution.
Hilarious that they are trying to be physicists then!
Just got to halfway thru the video, and yeah, you're right
I hear Luigi might know of something that might work...
The solution is Pb
What credibility problem? Americans love their billionaires rulers and believe in them so much that they have just handed them the WH.
your video drops are EVENTS in this household
Same in this house! My dad actually calls me from another state to go over them with me.
THIS
do people actually watch youtube videos with other people?
@ I watch these videos with the voices in my head
@@badabing3391 yes 🙌
As physics is a real smarty subject, by cosplaying as someone who appears intelligent and understands it, they try to make it seem like they deserve their fortune by the false virtue of their mind.
Good insight.
i have been looking for a channel like yours for YEARS and I hate youtube for not letting me find you sooner
The thought of billionaires being just that extremely smart is just comforting. It's comforting to think "yeah, the only reason I'm toiling every day to afford housing and food is that I'm not smart enough to be a billionaire"
Once you realize how not that smart they really are, it starts to crawl on you, how much in this society is stacked against you and how few people care...
You think someone who manages to learn how to run an entire business based off of there capabilities without being screwd by investors are not smart people?
@@badyoutuber1986 Being good at a certain thing doesen't necessarily mean you are smart in a general sense. And it doesen't make you immune from cognitive biases.
Not to mention there are legitimately some people that fail upwards.
@@badyoutuber1986 And to add insult to injury, it is an honorable propensity of our civil structure that being evilly wise in the ability to earn money is much more fortuitous and rewarded than many other endeavors. I think you extend to much skill to a system that promotes such things.
@@TheArrowedKnee But are the people that she is specifically talking about failed upwards? Did they claim that they are physicists or that they have an interest and or fascination in the subject..? You can down play there cognitive capabilities all you want but their presence is evidence to the contrary.
@@RobertTempleton64 if I'm extending to much skill to these people then why aren't the majority of us in there position right now?
"You know, I'm something of a [fraud wannabe physicist] myself."
Billionaires: Starting on third base and thinking they hit a triple, then scoring after someone else gets a base hit and thinking they did the work to score the run.
Ironically evil as he was Norman was in the lab doing shit and was allegedly actually smart even if he was careless. He was still somehow better at the bullshit he peddles than real actual billionaires
Eric Weinstein be like
@@SilortheBladethis is a great analogy, too bad Baseball isn't real
Hello 👋
I appreciate that you call out sexual harassment.
Me too, I wish she didn't have to, but unfortunately it keeps happening, so talking about it is required. It happens to all ages and genders, and false reports are both terrible and pretty rare. SA unfortunately is not rare, which is why we need good education about it in schools.
People often get harassed for talking about it, so I very much appreciate the people, with the integrity and courage, to call it out.
And that's without even mentioning Bill Gates was BFF's with Epstein and continued flying to his island on the Lolita express even after he had been convicted, or that Musk has repeatedly offered his sperm to random women at dinner parties (for real), impregnated and/or has been grape-y with countless subordinates at his companies, and tweeted the worlds creepiest message to Taylor swift, etc
@@davidestabrook5367 False reports are pretty common actually. Don't know if you like, have been paying attention to nearly all of the most famous sexual harassment accusations.
Also, most of the most prolific and long lasting cases are old dudes in powerful positions. I actually don't see the value in talking about it other than preaching to the choir.
Like this channel.
"Hey...unsolicited d1ck pics are...not wanted"
I have never and don't know anyone who has done this...I'm sure alot of women have gotten them. But it's like "raising awareness" about murder.
How much does this really help? The people who compulsively do these things are just going to do them until they are made to stop.
"Teach boys to not r4p3." Is one that has always caused me to scratch my head.
I don't think that's how that works.
Is it a Physics academia problem or a
It's a reflection of general cultural problem?
@@manucsharmaboth. She did make a whole video about how it manifests in Astronomy and Physics, you should check it out.
I don't know what possessed the algorithm to show this video to me, but I am forever grateful. You are hilarious and I love the style of this video. I also love that you assumed Atlas Shrugged was a satire. Sometimes I wonder if people like Rand aren't just Poes. But then I see the effect of their thoughts and realize it doesn't matter.
Physics is when big brain intelligence manifests into physical money 😩😩
Money is a representation of how smart and cool you are so of course
oh cute, two of my favorite deranged brainrot anti-AI channels
It could, if there is no corruption in the system.
Usually from the bank of mummy and daddy or the dumb luck happenstance
So is Angela content the reason I now have a lot of your videos in my feed? That is yet another advantage of following Angela's channel
I think you're vastly overestimating people's critical thinking skills. Most people absolutely believe that the tech billionaires are geniuses, and the entire apparatus of capitalism has a vested interest in convincing people that it's true. That's the whole "American Dream", that if you're smart and work hard, you too can be a billionaire. If people stopped believing that and started to think that rich people are mostly only rich because their parents were rich, then the whole illusion falls apart.
It is modern prosperity gospel. Instead of "I am rich because God has chosen me and so I deserve this wealth" they say "I am rich because I'm incredibly smart and capable and so I deserve this wealth" when in reality it's mostly a mix of luck, timing, and being from a rich family
Becoming a billionaire Wes never and is still not the “American dream”. The American dream was owning a home and comfortably retiring in your 60s.
I mean it’s still dead as fuck but let’s at least be honest about what we’re mourning
I still think most tech billionaires are smart. I don't think they would all be good at physics but maybe some of them would.
This isn't true. Billionaires like Musk, Jobs, and others certainly are/were geniuses, or at least intellectually gifted. You can't run Tesla and SpaceX without having an above average IQ. Elon also has Asperger's.
And no, they didn't become wealthy because their parents were wealthy. This is regurgitated garbage that is frequently perpetuated by communists/socialists.
@@kingcuckoo sure some might be smart. That means not all of them are smart so intelligence is not a requirement.
Thanks for referencing Rand, as I think her and her ideological allies are probably why so many of the billionaires and their supporters think every billionaire is a genius. But they also all think they're the so-called "prime movers"
I’m chiming in because I recently mentioned Ayn Rand in a video: she came of age in the early USSR and was kicked out of Leningrad university because her father had owned a small business before the revolution. He wasn’t some big-timer; such people didn’t exist in the Russian Empire outside of government-connected oligarchs. Her entire ideology is just a Soviet strawman of western decadence. Zero irony.
@@SamAronow Hey Sam, great channel! Still waiting for your video on the ongoing genocide being carried out supposedly on our behalf. Seems like kinda a weird thing to leave out for a whole year hah :)
Throw back: Before smartphones and ubiquitous GPS, I worked at OnStar, the telephone-based vehicle concierge service from GM. The people who drove the _most_ expensive cars were invariably the least intelligent. Correlation is not causation, but it is kinda funny sometimes.
wa... sam aronow commenting here.. small world @@SamAronow
@@errorite6653cmon dude dont do this to sam aronow, he's never pushed any political line or agenda and i wouldnt want him to compromise his mission of teaching jewish history by getting caught up in that
This is one of the best comedy channels on YT, and educational too.
In their defense, would you rather rich people waste their money on bad art or would you rather they pour money into research?
I love this format. Please never get a mic, never add a BGM and never over-edit it. This is perfect the way it's raw
I'm glad I'm not alone in this feeling 😭
You actually think you get this sounds quality without a proper mic?
Yeah i like it raw with her too
@eleyondfarli oh for sure not but the trend of microphone on camera bugs me more that it should 😭
And it looks to me like she is just gathering momentum with the theme of these last few videos.
"You don' understand... I coulda had class... I coulda been a physicist..."
Nice reference - Brando would be proud.
Stelllllaaaa...Stellllllaaar Physics
Brando was a brilliant guy. He had two ham radio licenses, one in CA and one in Tahiti. He could have easily been a physicist.
I could have been an MMA fighter but I was too powerful to spar with my peers in my youth... 😢
… but then I tore my ACL
I think it has to be physics bc physics is generally associated with geniuses. And I think that's for 3 reasons:
1. Einstein. He is the prototypical genius and he was a physicist. The same goes to some degree for Hawking I think, although his genius reputation was influenced by Einstein.
2. It's a very male dominated field.
3. In popular imagination, it includes nuclear anything, space anything, inventing/engineering anything and also where the universe comes from. It seems like it is both very practical and also very phylosophical.
Came to the comments to say Einstein, who is probably the most famous scientist, along with Newton - both known for their discoveries in physics. Hawking too, as you said.
Also, mathematics is seen as peak human intelligence in pop culture because it epitomises 'one solvable answer' and doesn't have to deal with any messy 'nuances'. Science is seen as admirable and as the one way to progress humanity, that scientists are an elite higher class of being (rather than teams of people who produce amazing work through collaboration and repetition). So physics, the combination of maths and science, is seen as the ultimate peak of intellect. Quantum physics and rocket science are both thrown around so much that they've basically become shorthand for 'extremely complex topic'. They are, but so is every highly specialised area of ongoing research in the sciences.
The other professions with glamourised intellect are medical doctors and detectives, maybe with some tech inventors thrown in there. We assume intelligence of some fields more than others which are just as complex but less popularised.
Please, read my comment. I arrived at the same conclusion you did but i am both a physicist and a marxist so i used a bit of that (mostly the marxist part for the subject is Billionaire. Though if you wish me to conduct an experimental test on the influence of billionaires/millionaires on the laws of motion of an explosive rocket all you need is give me the word and the appropriate sample of rich people, i think i can do with 5000 of them.)
I think it's mainly because Physics is quite literally everything. Doesn't matter whether you like it or not, it literally governs everyone's lives. Having knowledge about something this powerful (You get what I mean) is probably seen as prestigious
Right! Well said Angela.
On the other hand there's Brian May. Rock guitarist in Queen who earned a PhD degree in astrophysics from Imperial College London in 2007.
The poorer schools are and the more uneducated people become, the easier it is to literally advertise to them and redefine what intelligence is in the public consciousness.
My #1 Blackpill temptation.
Fortunately, our economy depends on people to go to college. We aren't an agrarian society, we can't be one.
Don't be tempted, dude.
@LimeyLassen I don't doubt *some* people will get to earn degrees, but who? The Top 10% who get to take their school choice vouchers to the private charter school, meanwhile everyone else is getting No Child Left Behind-ed into low outcomes. We're about to once again go through an Administration that wants to disembowel the Department of Education, and this is a generation of kids who had 2+ years of learning already disrupted due to COVID.
Meanwhile, Gen-Z isn't any less conservative or proactive against this downward spiral than Millenials. The attacks against public schools in previous decades already won; convincing the public that people like Musk are geniuses is just icing.
@@LimeyLassen I am confident there are plenty of Billionaires who would be fine with an agrarian society as long as they get to live in wherever the 'singapore' bit of it is. These people want a corporate dictatorship
Here's another blackpill: Mother Nature DGAF about intelligence.
my favorite videos are when you talk about social, historia and/or personal stories that are related science. im not a math or hard science person so theres a limit to what i can get from equations or theory’s but I could listen to Angela talk about science communication, water scams, science history, or academic fraud all day i swear.
Her video about Fluoride made me start using Fluoride toothpaste. So she's helpful as well as entertaining.
the more she becomes like a jenny nicholson physicist the more i think she'll have massive appeal.
I'm here because she has a great video about STEM /STEAM education and I'm a teacher.
Kurt Vonnegut told the story (I'm paraphrasing) where he went to a swank party and met a neurosurgeon. When the surgeon found out Kurt was a writer, he said, "Oh, when I retire, I plan to write!!" Kurt replied, "Great! When I retire I plan to do brain surgery!"
I think Stephen King wrote about a similar anecdote from his life. I could be misattributing this.
Writing is something you can do in your free time as a creative exercise, brain surgery is not.
@@freddiejones9713 Yeah, but he'd probably be a shitty writer. Just like Kurt Vonnegut would be a shitty brain surgeon.
@@freddiejones9713You don't know what I do in my spare time...
@@freddiejones9713
You'd be surprised how easy it used to be.
Subscribed! So many beautiful insights- you definitely are not the only one wondering these things!
Please note that Dexter Holland, lead singer of Offspring, was studying chemistry before going big with the band in the 90s, after he accumulated his wealth he went back and finished his PhD in Chem/molecular biology, same goes for Brian May of the band Queen, PhD in physics
those are not billionaires.
@@manumaster1990 Yet another demonstration that it's never billionaires doing any real work.
Billionaires, like ladies men, have found the important life hack... It does not matter if you are a , it matters to say that you are a . Your 'target group' will not notice the difference, and those who do notice - are not your 'target group' anyway.
Ah, like the constant misspellings in scam emails!
That's why these weak demagogues want to reintroduce crypto serfdom by astroturfing powerful anti-intellectual political figures like trump. The soft power of these 'people' highly relies on the existence of very very stupid people.
You mean deceptive 🍇ists? Because that's not consent if you have to trick someone or omit something to get someone in bed. That's a form of coercion.
Elon wants to be Iron Man so bad it makes him look stupid. It also makes Tony Stark look like a saint by comparison, and the further we go into this timeline, the funnier it is that Elon has a half-second cameo in the second Iron Man movie and that's as close as he'll ever get.
That cameo is just a proof of his b00tlicking personality. Superiority complex can only arise from an unresolved inferiority complex
Imagine giving a 10 year old boy about 400 billion dollars.
Dude, the Iron Man it's inspired by Elon Musk, not the other way around
@@nicolasceron3222 The first Iron Man comics are from the sixties. Elon Musk wasn't even born then.
@@AV-we6wo | mean the movies
As a computer scientist, I want everyone to know that I could have been an actual scientist.
Isn't there a saying "if my grannie had wheels she'd been a bicycle"? Sure they could've studied physics, or linguistics or whatever - they chose to do something else. Once upon a time I might have had the opportunity to become a decent chess player - but I directed my efforts elsewhere and that possibility is no longer there.
I mean, the option's still there - just isn't what they chose to do some years ago.
So you can't start play chess anymore at some point?
No that's not the point. These billionaires are already not deserving of the credit or reward they get for their companies. Assuming the mantle of smartest person across all fields is required to justify their ridiculous position in the pseudo-meritocracy.
they couldve chosen to contribute to society
I think you give them too much credit. The vast majority of these people were born with the best education money can buy. That does NOT look the same as being an actual genius, a la Terence Tau or someone else.
They just want you to think theyre the latter, and not that their parents paid for them to attend an Ivy League feeder boarding school like Philips Exeter.
Oh wow, _Atlas Shrugged_ as a satire is an amazing interpretation. I wish I could experience reading it that way, but there's no way in hell I'm going to re-read it now.
Maybe someone should do a Verhoeven and make it into a movie...
@@AndDiracisHisProphet Hold on he's back, let's see if he's still as sharp at... almost 90.
Yeah idk i have seen great filmmakers greatly deteriorate by about 80.
Finding out you enjoyed Atlas Shrugged because you thought it was satire is so funny to me
...yeah, I enjoyed Atlas Shrugged back in the day too, but your defense is better than mine.
Mine is, hard to explain, but it's probably about half that I was raised very right wing, and half unconscious rebellion against religion and feminine stereotypes, and also just wanting to read a book that many people considered "important"
Angela is a child of the late 20th century and was born in the U.S.A. Ayn Rand, OTOH, was a child of early 20th century and was born in Imperialist Russia. She lived through the Bolshevik Revolution and the ensuing civil war that led to the formations of the Soviet Union. It is no wonder that these two women have such significantly different points of view as regards business and workers.
I recommend Angela read Ayn Rand's novel "We the Living" to get a better sense of Ayn Rand's roots and motivations.
I blame psychedelics. "I have a deep fascination for physics" is just the 2024 version of "Our next record is gonna be a concept album."
I was talking to a coworker about my math bachelor's and she said "oh yeah I love math, all that sacred geometry and stuff?"
Oh my, that had me laughing so hard!😆
@@chiko4536 Oh no!!!🤣
There's an old Bob the Angry Flower comic titled "Atlas Shrugged One Hour Later" where all the billionaires that removed themselves from 'corrupt' society end up having to till the soil because now THEY have to do all the physical labour. It kinda perfectly condenses your criticism about the books plot into a single comic.
A classic.
Oh, good times. Didn't expect to see a fellow Bob fan in the comments.
WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO TILL THE SOIL!!
The book literally has one of the billionaires tilling the soil and enjoying the task. John Galt himself mostly does odd jobs like plumbing and repair work.
An actress works as a waitress, Dagny as a maid, and Ayn's self insert was a fishmongers wife.
The thing is they all had multiple jobs. A practical day job, and a long term passion project (the thing they did on the outside).
@@ttthttpd So realistic!
I have encountered people who believe that Elon Musk invented the electric car AND designed rockets. This explains so much of recent history.
I am grateful that I've lived my life so as not know (many) people who believe Musk invented both the rocket and EV.
And there are people who believe he is stupid and that his trolling hypocrisy is unintentional. Both views are manufactured. Both views are dangerous.
But strangely I can not find a theory that explains how a person playing a nerd like Elon got so successful. There is something missing.
@@steffenbendel6031 he's convinced enough people that don't know better and now they have a literal vested interest in keeping the ruse going . He also does have a product at the end of the day even if it falls short of expectations he set up for it (this is where Elizabeth Holmes went wrong)
@@steffenbendel6031 Elon is the son of a South African diamond mining gazillionaire. He is one of those fortunate few who was born on third base and tells everyone they hit a triple. Starting out with unlimited funds is a swell way to make money.
I like physics and I’m not a billionaire. But if I became one, I wouldn’t stop liking physics.
Atlas Shrugged really makes more sense as a satire. It has always bothered me that of all of the industries in the world, she picked a railroad heiress as the protagonist. Is there any industry that was more dependent on government handouts? Between 1850 and 1871 the government (fed plus states) granted over 281k square miles of land to railroad companies. That is more than the size of Texas.
John Galt's backstory was also nonsense. He was an engineer working at a privately owned company when he invented the static motor. But he was mad that the private company decided to pay its employees more, and he thought his coworkers were lazy idiots so he stole the companies IP and left. The government had nothing to do with what happened to him.
Hank Rearden is the only character that made sense if it wasn't satire. I have no idea why he wasn't the protagonist.
That's a good point about the railroad industry. It's probably one of the most government-dependent industries of all time (right up there with agribusiness).
I doubt Ayn Rand knew much of anything about railroads--or anything else. She claimed to be a philosopher, but also claimed that all philosophy since Aristotle was useless. This reminds me of Angela's science cranks who dismiss all of modern physics.
@@burgundian-peanuts well Aristotle was the last big name to defend slavery, so there you go. Bunch of softies only during last millenia
Atlas Shrugged emphatically was NOT intended as satire. Rand and her groupies thought it her crowning literary achievement. Others, not so much; Dorothy Parker famously said "“Atlas Shrugged is not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be THROWN, with great force.”
The ultimate problem IMO with conservatives and libertarians and the right is that their whole scheme is to play on your emotions and your sense of "duty".
The right likes to put all the responsibility on the individual which sounds smart and it sounds correct, but it really is just a way to absolve corporations and bad guys for being bad.
"Oh you got scammed by a company, well it's YOUR FAULT for being born stupid."
"Oh you are poor and will never escape wage slavery? Sorry for being born poor."
Ayn Rand always has these characters that are supposed to be perfect and things just work for them when they shouldn't in real life.
"satire"
The gulf between the billionaire physics LARPers and real underpaid and stressed physicists is as large as the billionaires' egos.
Ayn rand is a perfect example of the reason we don’t have more social services and the like. A bunch of normal people think that it is in fact 100% meritocratic and wealth is deserved, and that they could also get rich. But unfortunately, the average person is average.
"temporarily embarrassed millionares"
I am so glad this video (and your channel) landed in my recommended.
The only thing I disagree with in your video is, when you asked if you were being too harsh on the billionaires. I just disagree with the premise that it's even possible to be too harsh to the billionaires.
Based answer.
Based engineer be like:
We can have billionaires or we can have survival of the human race, but we can't have both.
They should be taxed until there aren't any billionaires, and rich people aren't rich enough, to buy governments or newspapers.
Preach
Absolutely. You can't accidentally become a billionaire, it takes effort. Greedy, shady, often outright illegal effort.
Unless you inherit the billions, in which case if you aren't actively losing it via lobbying to make billionaires impossible to exist, it's also impossible to be too harsh towards you.