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I wanna see you play a rumble game with the new Behemoth, you're the CryoKing. You gonna tell me you cant SHEIT on em anymore? Blasphemy! ICE BABY ICE CMONNNN 😭
stasis overall is still pretty weak. even with frost armor, its still worse then other buffs... and the healing with stasis crystals is still bad, even tho they said they "buffed it", i hardly notice the "buff"
@@Manstrual I like the fragment changes so far for my 2 main end game builds: stronghold lament and lancecap wicked implement or buried bloodline. Diamond lances feel even more cracked in PVE. IDK about Frost Armor yet seems just ok.
@@hanleyTST frost armor is terrible. At max stacks, it's worse than whisper of chains used to be by itself. You can't even generate max stacks through collecting shards. I don't know what to say other than they removed 70% damage resist and gave us 36% and are telling us it's better.
@@Manstrual I've found the core issue with stasis has always been in the aspects. Most seem they should just be alternate class item and melee options. In end game PVE the harvest aspect seems to always be a requirement. W/o shard creation we struggling. Stasis warlock has 1 good build and stasis hunter imo is the worst end game subclass in the game. Stasis titan at least has a few solid end game builds once you understand the subclass. With prismatic there is absolutely zero reason anyone would ever use standalone Shadebinder since prismatic warlock has bleak watcher and you won't be crippled with the worst end game super in the game.
@@hanleyTST harvest aspects should have been built in by default. Shards themselves should grant frost armor so other non stasis teammates get it, or at least make it possible in some way to share it. As of now there's no reason to not just use void barricades because 45 HP overshield is more HP than max stacks of frost armor effectively gives you. It's useless now. Cadmus ridge and icefall mantle are the only things worth using anymore.
Cryoclasm is instant and 4 second cooldown but unlike in the past you only get one charge. Sucks to use and micromanage. Rime gives you no more overshield, replaced by frost armor which is just worse woven mail, can only generate 6 shards when you have 9 crystals from abilities, you can't even generate shards for one person. There's so many things that are just screwed up for no reason.
Woven Mail has 60% PvE DR and 25% PvP DR …at least, that’s what it said a year ago. No DR against headshots, though Frost Armor has 4.5% PvE DR and 2% PvP DR(?), additive per stack Ranges from a max of 5 stacks at base (22.5%/10%) to a max of 8 stacks with Whisper of Rime (36%/16%) Haven’t played The Final Shape yet, but it’s apparently impossible to get to 8 stacks alone now, let alone hold all of those stacks, because of the _stupid shard creation cooldown_
nice play, from your gameplay the slide change doesn't seem to affect too much on smaller maps. Can't wait to do a slide cancel on i dunno disjunction and feel the nerf lmao
@@Manstrual Been playing pvp again lately and holy shit I feel the nerf. whoever implemented this timer just wanted to completely murder slide cancelling. what's worse is when you're running now you spend a cryoclasm for no reason and dont get the slide.
@@Manstrual yeah, try it out. its so slow, u jump the same height with or without an smg and ur strafe is slow af. everything else is still there just what i listed above is gone. it bothers me that they never mentioned it. i really hope its a bug cuz i cant be a 120 igi spammer ill be bored to death
@@Manstrual it wasnt like this at launch of tfs. i have a video uploaded as proof they worked as normal. but this weekend they messed something up and now its slow
Bringing back what started the channel. Hope you guys enjoyed the journey.
Edit: also, this is old footage. Sharing the glory days.
Long live the Behemoth may he rest in shards of glory
i’m convinced this is a conspiracy by bungie where they hard nerf old subclasses to make people want to buy their dlc with NEW* subclasses
pretty obvious strategy adopted by literally any gamedev
I wanna see you play a rumble game with the new Behemoth, you're the CryoKing. You gonna tell me you cant SHEIT on em anymore? Blasphemy! ICE BABY ICE CMONNNN 😭
stasis overall is still pretty weak. even with frost armor, its still worse then other buffs... and the healing with stasis crystals is still bad, even tho they said they "buffed it", i hardly notice the "buff"
Frost armor is worse than whisper of chains used to be by itself in PvE. Let alone the shards cooldown.
Good ol glory days video. 🙌
The subclass is even more cracked in end game PVE now. Not sure about PVP but I'll take your word for the changes to PVP.
It depends in PvE. Blitzing through GMs with triple Behemoth in less than 12 minutes was so much fun but that's obviously gone
@@Manstrual I like the fragment changes so far for my 2 main end game builds: stronghold lament and lancecap wicked implement or buried bloodline. Diamond lances feel even more cracked in PVE. IDK about Frost Armor yet seems just ok.
@@hanleyTST frost armor is terrible. At max stacks, it's worse than whisper of chains used to be by itself. You can't even generate max stacks through collecting shards. I don't know what to say other than they removed 70% damage resist and gave us 36% and are telling us it's better.
@@Manstrual I've found the core issue with stasis has always been in the aspects. Most seem they should just be alternate class item and melee options. In end game PVE the harvest aspect seems to always be a requirement. W/o shard creation we struggling. Stasis warlock has 1 good build and stasis hunter imo is the worst end game subclass in the game. Stasis titan at least has a few solid end game builds once you understand the subclass. With prismatic there is absolutely zero reason anyone would ever use standalone Shadebinder since prismatic warlock has bleak watcher and you won't be crippled with the worst end game super in the game.
@@hanleyTST harvest aspects should have been built in by default. Shards themselves should grant frost armor so other non stasis teammates get it, or at least make it possible in some way to share it. As of now there's no reason to not just use void barricades because 45 HP overshield is more HP than max stacks of frost armor effectively gives you. It's useless now. Cadmus ridge and icefall mantle are the only things worth using anymore.
I don't know im pve player but cryo along with prismatic 3 mele charges diamond lance would be sooo nice too
Until you realize you get a lance from one stasis weapon kill anyway and subclass methods to get a lance are pointless
Behemoth the best. Question though, why recovery at 7?
Font of restoration with orbs to 100 recovery
RIP Cryoclasm
Bungle please revert this change!
Patiently waiting on the prismatic Manstrual return 🔥
Yeah prismatic titan is definitely more fun and fresh than behemoth. And the survivalbility is insane.
Have you enhanced your sniper yet?
What sniper
Amen
amen
i havent kept up with behemoth, why are the changes bad?
Cryoclasm is instant and 4 second cooldown but unlike in the past you only get one charge. Sucks to use and micromanage. Rime gives you no more overshield, replaced by frost armor which is just worse woven mail, can only generate 6 shards when you have 9 crystals from abilities, you can't even generate shards for one person. There's so many things that are just screwed up for no reason.
Woven Mail has 60% PvE DR and 25% PvP DR
…at least, that’s what it said a year ago. No DR against headshots, though
Frost Armor has 4.5% PvE DR and 2% PvP DR(?), additive per stack
Ranges from a max of 5 stacks at base (22.5%/10%) to a max of 8 stacks with Whisper of Rime (36%/16%)
Haven’t played The Final Shape yet, but it’s apparently impossible to get to 8 stacks alone now, let alone hold all of those stacks, because of the _stupid shard creation cooldown_
whats the exotic ur running?
Dunes
Oldest build of mine i'd say, dunes have been the best with cryo
nice play, from your gameplay the slide change doesn't seem to affect too much on smaller maps. Can't wait to do a slide cancel on i dunno disjunction and feel the nerf lmao
This is old footage
@@Manstrual Been playing pvp again lately and holy shit I feel the nerf. whoever implemented this timer just wanted to completely murder slide cancelling. what's worse is when you're running now you spend a cryoclasm for no reason and dont get the slide.
@@Tigerbro6 yep it's worse than expected lmao
Waiting for new video, where ya at?
@@Jwh983 enjoying my summer by working and taking classes 🙂
This game isn't deserving of the little time I have, been taking a break
I thought there would be an explanation of why Behemoth is bad now.
Was gonna start posting daily old games
Whos Amen?
this video is a prayer and the people reply "amen"
@@Manstrual so Mr Amen is a preacher?
@@TimothyRisby lol I can't tell if you're joking or not
Legends say if you go into your bathroom with the lights off and pray three times Mr. Amen shows up 😳
I dare you to attempt the nightfall
Lmaooo, still decent with Lancecap but definitely would be rage inducing with the normal triple rime setup haha
they also nerfed pk again without reason. no more sprint speed , no extra mobility, no reduced ads penalty. wtf bungie
Wait seriously
@@Manstrual yeah, try it out. its so slow, u jump the same height with or without an smg and ur strafe is slow af. everything else is still there just what i listed above is gone. it bothers me that they never mentioned it. i really hope its a bug cuz i cant be a 120 igi spammer ill be bored to death
@@Manstrual i literally just got a quad 100 pk behemoth build in tfs and now they do this :(
@@Manstrual it wasnt like this at launch of tfs. i have a video uploaded as proof they worked as normal. but this weekend they messed something up and now its slow
@@behemo that's a crazy bug
yea these changes are rough, and prismatic titan is weaker than the other two classes
Even with the nerfs, Manstrual is still showing off just how good you can be with stasis.
Old gameplay
Behemoth is badddd watch this we ran 🤣
Old gameplay
@@Manstrual ahhhhhhh
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