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I shot this film in the 80's. It was tack sharp and had a real cinematic look to it
Picked up a few rolls of this off Ebay a few months back. Got some awesome and unique shots off of it. Also got some incredibly crappy ones. The Darkroom Lab developed it all for me with no issues. 🙂
What ISO setting did you use?
Totally unrelated but a few years ago I gifted my wife a disposable camera that was being sold for 1 EUR at my local supermarket. It was marked ISO 400 and with the supermarkets white brand. Recently we finished the roll and I developed the film myself. I was surprised to find that the film canister had "made in Japan" scripted, and though that Fujifilm was the manufacturer. Sure enough, the film had the caracteristic green and red stripes and it was marked "400V". If I knew this, I would have bought allthe remaining disposable cameras that day! 😂
The branding is just so absurd that i think i love it
We can recover those Seattle Film Works diskette photos for you :)
I was born in 99 and I even have a small collection of floppys!! I even used some of them back in my elementary school years for my English lessons!! They are quite the museum piece nowadays!!
Thanks a lot, I remember googling this a while ago and finding barely any information, this is 1000% better and more informative!
Woooo-Hoooo!!!! Hey there Noah -- thanks for mentioning me!!! Awesome that those rolls were C-41 and you were able to get them developed normally! And thanks for the tips on how to identify the difference -- and your results were a lot better than I was expecting -- as you showed not too tough to tweak them in post. So if I run across some more I will try them out. And I am glad that the Canon WP camera worked and did not leak!!!! Thanks man -- and yes, I remember 3-1/2 inch disks, in fact I remember 5-1/4 floppy disks at home!!!!
What is your name referencing? I've heard of it before but can't remember
You can learn a lot from the edge markings, just compare them to some other negatives and it's not hard to figure out the actual manufacturer. Each of them usually uses their own unique fonts and data patterns and it's present even in the rebranded stuff.
I got a roll of this stuff from someone just a week ago, and after reading the label I arrived at this video! The thing that made me click though was the much appreciated Frasier reference in the description. Just happens to be one of my all time favorite shows (and I'm under 40 in case anyone reading this is wondering.) Thanks for the video!
I shot 30 rolls of this stuff back in the late 90s, still have the diskettes somewhere. The files are JPEGs, 640x480, pretty low quality scans but the prints were good. Send in a roll & you'd get back negatives, slides, prints & a diskette with the JPEGS and a fresh roll of film.
Oh that's right I forgot about that! They would send you another roll of film with your prints, that was actually really convenient!
I remember shooting some of their movie film as a kid, I remember it was so exciting getting back "free" film in the mail along with my pictures.
I used to use that company regularly back in the day and I was pretty happy with them because you would get the film print and digital copies on floppy disk and then later CD. Nobody else gave you digital copies.
Ah Seattle Filmworks. That takes me back!
That intro is so cool I will never get over it😂
I think we should have a floppy disk revolution
There is also russian SFL (Sreda Film Lab) film which is basically Kodak Vision 3 being rebranded as well. At least they mention ECN-2 process and also that it is actually Vision 3
I bought that camera some years ago from eBay and it's fun. The 38mm focal length is a interesting. Prior to that, in the early-mid '90s I used a few rolls of SFW -- I lived in the area. At the time I appreciated what appeared to be more neutral colors but never stayed with it due to cost. I never realized they later scammed everyone with C-41 film.
I have a roll of this that I've been wondering about so this was extremely helpful!
I shot this in the 80s, and I recently came across a couple of unshot rolls (a 200 and a 400) that require the ECN-2 process. These probably expired in the late 80s, but I think I'll give them a try.
I have that exact roll sitting on my desk in front of me.
I actually have in the fridge, a roll of SFW 200 uNOPENED! Too funny! I also have a roll of Signature Color 200 as well, opened-unused! Great video!
Found an old family roll from the 80s that had been sitting around, crossed processed it as b&w last week. Results weren’t that bad for the age and not being properly stored. So glad these chemicals are still around to an extent and I could do this because I saw pictures of my grandpa that I never met.
I shot a lot of this back in the 80s and 90s. The often promoted to send you several rolls of free film knowing full well you had to process them through SFW. But I liked that for one reasonable price, they sent you back negatives, slides, scans, and a fresh roll of film. The slides have since faded a bit but the negatives are fine. I still have a few expired rolls of the C-41 versions that I shoot every now and then.
I remember this stuff. Thanks for the update, nostalgia, and info.
My mom got me a bunch of expired film as a gift and there were 4 rolls of this in there. Good to see that I can have it developed at a lab.
In the days of film processing I found it easier to send the film through the mail instead of dropping film off at a big box store and going back to pick up the photos later. SFW used to send me a couple of rolls of free film every now and then, but if I used their print film the pictures had low color, and I got better color with Kodak film, which they also developed, so I'd throw the SFW film away and used the Kodak. But they also sent me a roll of slide film called Seattlechrome, it made quite good slides.
Thanks for the story! :)
Have a nice week!
When I shot film, that’s all I ever shot in the late 70s and 80s and into the 90s. Still have some.
That floppy disc reminded me that you should do a video on the Sony mavica floppy disc cameras. They’re pretty interesting.
My mom's cousin had one of those!
My grandma used it all the time, wonder what photos I have that were shot on it.
They were one of the first to offer their customers photos on CD. That was cool but you needed a special app to view them. I still have a couple and have trouble viewing them now.
Also had the policy of giving you a free role of film with every one you had them develop. And of course that new roll could only be developed by them.
Wow, thanks so much! I shot a roll of this with a flash, and self-dev'd in C41 before realizing it claimed to need that SFW-XL process. I'm currently on a trip away from home, so I can't verify, but hopefully mine is indeed the C41 variant. I didn't notice remjet, but also think I remember the emulsion backing being purple?
Anyway, thanks so much for the information! I was really curious where that roll had come from.
I have a roll of that shot by my mom in the 90's I have been trying to figure out how to develop. Nice to know there isn't actually a remjet layer!
I worked at a camera store that processed film. We couldn’t process SFW film. When a customer brought it in, we had to refuse them and tell them we could not process it.
Old guy weighing in here. I lived in the San Fernando Valley in the 1980's and 1990's. The hub of the movie industry film processing.
There was a huge market for less than full reels of ECN color negative films. Seattle Film Works, and others would buy these. There was Dale Labs in SE FL, and one I used in North Hollywood called Indenticolor. Many a Saturday morning I would drop off film or pick up developed pictures and slides. Very economical. Like Seattle Film Works, various films available.
Here's the rub: Camera ECN films are very low contrast. When properly mated to what is called the "print" film... another reversal.....that's what goes through the movie projector, there is normal contrast. So, ECN negs to print film slides were great.
However...........when printed to paper, the images were very low contrast. They lacked punch. Bluntly, they sucked. So, yeah, you could get prints and slides from one film, but be prepared to be disappointed for the prints.
Kodak had a "print" film that was designed for ordinary C-41 processed negatives. Lordy, I used to be able to rattle off all those four digit Kodak film labels. In the early 1990's I discovered RBG Color Labs, in, of course, Hollywood. Send in your C-41 film, you got back the usual quality appropriate prints and stunning slides.
There is still a lot of ECN film available as 35mm reloads. Cinemax, see www.filmphotographyproject.com There are ECN-2 kits available. You can also develop in ordinary C-41 process with the extra step of physically removing the remjet layer. I've done so many times. There may be some color shifting, but it's minimally and if scanning to your digital darkroom, correctable.
I always thought that particular canon looked like Buzz Lightyear might look if he became a camera 🤷♂️
That was sweet rebel motorcycle.
I'm pretty sure my dad used their stuff (definitely when they rebranded as Photoworks) when I was a kid.
they have photo tip cassettes too
such a goofy company, I love it
Shout out to the dude at 5:43 with the gizz shirt
Have you thought of looking into PC (presidents choice) colour negative film. im pretty sure it was just fuji, the 200 iso came in a purple can.
I used Seattle film works and photoworks films, they actually were cheaper but for the most part they were comparable to the supermarket photo labs for snapshots. Nothing remarkable but not crappy either. I think they lost out in the early 2000's because they were kind of just, ordinary...
I picked up a few rolls at an estate sale recently 400 200 and 100. They all say develop with C 41 on the canister. Interested to try them.
It is like RGB COLOR LAB in Hollywood except RGB Lab only used motion picture film. You could get either slides or prints at processing. I shot a lot of RGB Lab film back in the day.
Have you thought about reviewing Black and white developers? I know I'm late to the party but I have seen a lot of people talking about cinestill d96 recently.
I’m working hard on a black and white developing intro which will then let me do more in depth developing videos in the future!
The intro is extra “phone pointed at projector” vibe today
Edit: but great video, didn’t know there was so much behind the brand
Not quite. The intro is extra “16mm camera pointed at a screen and scanned” today
I have been buying from them for a while. Strange they say the rolls lived in deep freeze 🥶 for decades. I did develop my own and ramjet is a pain. I still have a few floppies. Always a work around. I’m old lol 😂
It's the same deal when I was using some expired kirkland branded film which was actually agfa color film.
Miss you floppy disks.
they called every store in hawaii saying it broke every machine since then no one develops free film
I have a thing for expired film....I'll always snatch up a roll if it's super cheap on eBay just to try it out
I used to shoot this film back in the 80s and 90s
I think Fred Herzog, famous and fabulous Canadian photographer, used that Canon waterproof camera towards the end of his career.
Thanks it was great.
Watched your video - thanks!! Mine is likely Mot. Pic film .... you made this recommendation, so, pleas ehelp - WHERE can I find a "place that does small runs of motion picture film"? I have some Seattle Filmworks film from the 70's I really want to get processed.
Nice beard it suits you
What town are you and your bros hanging in? Looks like the Midwest. Great video btw. Greets from Seattle
I did use them in the 90s and always got the floppy!!! I do have some newer expired film that is C41!!!
I hope for motormarine 2 in underwater cameras video, And 35mm gopro ofc
There's more to the story of that type of film and service. Dale Laboratories in Florida operated in the same way that Seattle FilmWorks did. The 'cinema film' was Kodak 5247, and for the price of mail-in processing you'd get back the negatives and two sets of 4x6 glossy prints... and a new roll of film. So once you started you were kind of sucked into the system because hey... free film. I think you could also get both slides and prints from the same order. All the resulting photos are desaturated and colour-shifted (lots of magenta haze), and grain in low-light conditions was horrible.
I actually had better luck with Dale than with SFW. My SFW experience was generally ok, but Dale was consistently better for me. I ended not using either in the long run 'cause you could often get your images cheaper and faster at the grocery store.
Born in 05 and know what a floppy disk is. Hold 1.44MB an it's 3 1/4 inches wide. Uses magnetic storage. I have 2 boxes from my grandpa's old office.
Hi there! I found two undeveloped rolls of SFW film at my parents house and I am trying to figure out where to send them to be processed! Any tips? As far as I can tell the code is not on either list. It’s 4562.2, use by April 1999
This may not belong on this video, but what are your thoughts about using a dichromate bleach beginng step to remove the remjet? I have read/seen/heard that doing so eliminates about 95+%, (if not 100%) of the remjet before the developing process and does not bother the underlying film at all. Granted, the information to which I’m referring was with developing 16mm movie film, but I would think it would apply. I’m curious about your opinion as the more I watch your content, the more respect I gain for you and your opinions! Thanks!
I dug out the prints from the rolls of this film that I shot. It was horribly grainy. Overall, very unimpressed.
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I have but never used
I still have 2 rolls of Seattle yes expired so will tell the lab to use C41?
I have some of this exposed but not developed film canisters. They are old and Can they still be developed somewhere? I also have some of those disks.
Do a role of Photo Works ( any asa)
So I actually used this in the 80s and got some nice pictures. But I was doing some deep cleaning and found a used roll probably some old family pictures on it, I would really like to find out what's on it. So where can I send it now to get processed?
Oh and I live nowhere near any film processing places.
I have a few CDs from SFW that I am trying to open to see whats on them. The files are not JPEG, but the SFW. Is there a way to open them, or get onto the Cloud so I can save them?
Hey i roll with a Canon AS-1 point and shoot camera and would love to see and in depth look at it. Would like to see what various film types are good for it, okey or don’t bother. (since i like the camara and im not very delicate with other types of camaras) i usu in film everything from kodak 200, portra 400, Pj 800, fuji 200, 400, to Tungsten 800. Thanks in advance love the content.
I wish we lived in the same country. We would be very good friends. (:
Have you thought of reviewing Kodak Vision 3 for stills? I know there is a ton of people who repackage it for use in 35mm cameras.
Probably, I'm building towards home developing focused videos and eventually color and tackling the cinema stuff at home. Also just the fad of shooting cinema film for stills is interesting along with what Cinestill does!
is the remjet on the leader or something? how do you know its normal c41?
How do you see photos on the floppy disc from SFW?
i developed a roll of this the other day! the recommendations said to presoak with baking soda to wash off the remjet. but then i read some places that you can rinse it off with your hands AFTER you finish developing. fact or fiction?
It is best to rinse first to remove a good amount of the backing, but you can also very gently rub the remaining backing off after developing or even use a soft sponge.
seattle film works closed down does this mean i can't develop it
I got 2 200 speed rolls of this expired in 2000 do I shoot at 50 iso ?
Uhh I just shot a roll of this in a plain point and shoot...how can you tell if it’s cinema film? It expired in 2000
This video explains how to tell if it's cinema film
At the risk of getting a little off topic, I have a very old roll of exposed Kodak Ektachrome-X that needs E-4 processing. Does E-4 processing still exist?
I believe the current E6 process is just a slightly modified E-4.
@@mynamehasspacesinit8687 Thanks
I have a roll of 400 sitting in my fridge. How do I know if it’s C41 or ECN?
The point of this video is to answer that question. 6:25
@@AnalogResurgence oops I totally missed that. Mine has code 102 and the still sprockets. I think it’s regular colour negative.
Used this a few times in the late 80’s early 90’s, it’s seemed weird and gimmicky. There was another company that did the same thing but I can’t remember the name.
Probably DALE Labs
I remember one in Texas called Signature Color.
if apple made film
No.
@@llaughridge yes
for the love of god, it's "anti-halation", not "anti-halatation"
for the love of god, thanks!!
I shot this stuff back in the 90’s. They advertised that they would give you both prints and slides from the same roll. The problem was that if I remember correctly, both were pretty awful. The colors were pretty desaturated, and they both had some pretty serious green shifts. That first roll that you shot looked like they stuff that they would send back. I gave up on them pretty quickly and went back to Kodak.
I still have prints and slides from them and I used them a lot as a student. Your description didn’t match my experience at all. The prints still look just fine 25+ years later. Are they professional quality? No. But they look as good as the other consumer prints I have. The slides are also fine.
@@karlmatthias2698 My experience was more like yours. They could be hit and miss, but mostly they did a good job.