Yep! Broadside GK at 12 km manages to split all of my shells from Republique when I aimed halfway up the hall. They still landed low and no damage. He returns fire with HE of course and gets like 10k damage. Wargaming FIX YOUR SHIT!
Yep, I’ve noticed the lack of grouping and dispersion on my bama, Georgia, and Iowa lately bro. In the past month and a half, it’s fallen off by a pretty wide margin.
I would say it’s the code in the epic and legendary modules, and how they stack with other buffs in your build. I remember there was an issue in the past with artillery plotting room and how they stacked with some of the commanders
Are you sure it's not just battleships in general? I think they've been slowly nerfing bbs with rng for a while now to try to get people to play something other than a damn battleship since that's like 80% of the playerbase.
I still think something changed on AL NJ. She doesn't have the accuracy perk so I wonder if it was put in by mistake and they reversed it? I mean it was in the coding. Some science is required here.
I bought the AL Nelson commander last update to run on my Nelson and KGV. Previous I had Cunningham and the nelson in particular was incredibly accurate. Now with AL nelson at the same level and Cunningham as inspo it seems noticeable different despite the same accuracy buffs being applied through skills and inspos. I don’t know what AL nelson was like before the update but I also agree with the Georgia so things are definitely pointing to something happening during the last update.
My Alabama was a murderer, I'd get 3-5 sinks a match, multiple citadels... now I'm lucky to get 1 or 2 in a match. This breaks my heart and makes me not want to play if my favorite ships get nerfed.
Now how is the alabama? Cause i would like to take it tonorrow. There is also the flandre... wich i mean, i have already a lot of american boats, would be nice a change. What do u think?
@@GIUSEPPE2245 I have 298 ships, I've had this game from the biggining, there are so many good ships from all nations that seem to be less dangerous, I don't know if that's intentional or a product of so many new ships that are good...
they definitely did something to the American bb recently, the used to stick together like glue with the right commanders of course but after watching your vid yesterday and trying lvl 6 thru legendary USN i lost my freaking mind, switched to the musashi and for 4 games straight they were lasers.... the worst was the Kansas then Colorado everything else was mehh
Ijn bbs are also affected. When i try to lock on a ship; it puts me all over the place. When i shoot. Shells fall short and long... feels like im in a KM bb. 😢
Switch to sims, i have that same commander and she is bugged, had her on all my american battleships and couldn't hit anything, put sims on, and my accuracy got considerably better
I also remember my Alabama being more accurate and also my Amagi. PGRapidz has an Amagi video from like 9 months ago, I think, where he was like "OK, Amagi, I see you" after shooting lazer beams.
Yo peak. WG did it again hah? Lol just wanna inform you not just your Alabama it’s happened to all American BB. My Iowa WAS laser beam before until it’s not. It’s like WG added more dispersion to American now
Alabama has hit the skids, seriously. I have noticed that when I leave it alone for awhile, I can come back and have an awesome game. The next game will be miserable. It’s almost Wargaming is punishing certain ships for being played too much, and wants the player base to shift to other ships.
Yeah, I got the George W and New Jersey after you made that accuracy video on it. It was great for a few weeks then it went to shit. Now I cant hit the broad side of a barn from the inside. 😢
I've noticed it to my Georgia W is not accurate then my New Jersey is all of sudden sniper accurate and I took marksmanship of my West Virginia and my West Virginia seems to be consistent ever since I think dispersion is bugged in general like on Scharnhorsts base trait sniper and even on the marksmanship skill and itll probably be the same with the new british commander john fisher for upcoming british battlecruiser
My yamy for some reason has a bot protection like yesterday i shoot two full salvos against a yamy with no camo and literally got overpens and 2-4 pens and on the third he got smacked guess rng has a idiotproof protection
Alabama was my go to forever always averaged 130k to 150k to 200k damage. If I didn't hit that mark I felt like I didn't do my job. Then the guns just stop being reliable and then the go to was republic and Georgia with the republic being the favorite of the 2. But last time I played it the guns just wasn't hitting like they use to. At that point I just figure the more people played those ships and the stats come up for damage and win rate they change and or shadow nerffed the boats so every one would switch up or the game would balance out
After the GA vid, I took some other 6 gun boats out this weekend (Gneiser, Repulse, etc) and they were getting one hit or two at all ranges. Infuriating. Tried Repulse again here on Monday morning for a quickie, and things were grouped back up again. Not scientific, but who knows if some general fixes (not necessarily targeted to this) might've been snuck onto the servers overnight.
This has been noticeable throughout most battleships. It's either a coplete shotgun or lazerbeams that fall short. Battleships are the worst class to ay change my mind.
This holds true for my GA and AL. Can we also talk about how cruisers are left with 100 health now after getting absolutely obliterated on a broadside?
That is just unlucky about leaving cruisers on 100hp because shell damage values don’t change they have set amounts of damage they will do on a citadel a penatration and an overpenatration
You can run anyone of these Hyde, megatron, ciliax, AL Scharnhorst and Teslau. Just be sure to select master mechanic in the last skill row before the legendary skills and it gives you 2 heals when the commander level is 16.2.
This actually sucks because i got to go see USS Alabama irl and it was one of the coolest things ever and i want it in this game but 750k gxp is so much
Honestly i don’t know what you are talking about with the Georgia i just did a game with ai to test and it was accurate i could post the clip, i think you did a video on how the commander Scharnhorst makes your accuracy worse and the game that i just played with the accuracy being good i had AL New Jersey and cunningham (my al New Jersey is only lvl 7)
Recently im really getting annoyed with this games shell Types. HE always was strong but last games are really taking the piss. 1v1 battle against a Kansas in a Georgia. He was the biggest potatoe you will see. Shooting HE and being broadside at 4km distance. But guess what i barely Managed to kill him bc either my shells went into water or his citadel wasnt letting me in, no matter what. He just shoots me with HE like a mug, aims somewhere and gets 15k salvos. Its mad. Helena in Arena today kill me in my Surrey with 3!!! HE salvos even citadelling me. I got 13 overpens. I cant anymore
Im playing french battleships only. So, have no idea what you are talking about. You have a great grouping and dispersion. No any reason to complain. 😂
I can say Alabama has been screwed up on WOWS PC version for about 2 years now. I remember when it was very accurate, even advertised as such in the premium shop. With a 1.9 sigma you'd expect decent consistency but most results are that of a shotgun blast. Once again talking about the PC version here. Just notice a trend of the console version following the PC version.
War gaming probably listed to hipper and nerfed battleship accuracy across the board because for me it’s been more than my American ships it has been my battleships from all the nations they all seam inaccurate no matter what I do
@Let Um Peek That looks like a change to Sigma, rather than Dispersion. At 3:28, That shot looks like a VERY tight shot out of something like an Amagi. Something is DEFINITELY up here
Yea battle ships in general seemed nerfed accuracy..so many are just shotguns..cruisers are meta right now destroyers in rough spot right now too w all radars and everything..could totally put bey back to normal and be fine
Battleships seemed to be back to normal did u notice? I wonder if shadow nerfed because there numbers were up do to more and more people getting new captains fully upgraded
@@letumpeek I was Once where you were. I’m back but I took off 6-8 months and came back sort of refreshed 😂. I find it helps to drink moderately at minimum for maximum enjoyment
Yep i noticed the Alabama taking damage much easier now. The shots do not do damage and are too inaccurate now. Same with the Tirpitz making it unplayable now. I am fucking tired of corporations constantly nerfing and changing the game at will now.
So before, taking Scharnhorst off as an inspiration increased accuracy so I wonder what would happen if you put her back on? would the accuracy get even worse or get better? If it does get better then it begs the question of did wargaming secretly change the accuracy and such or is it just so buggy you have to constantly swap Scharnhorst on and off depending on ship accuracy that update?
I put her back on and It got better according to my training room test. I also did some testing back in july when it was worse with scharnhorst like you said. This seems to be the case only with american full accuracy builds with the plotting room mod. Warspite worked as intended with scharn. It must be said that the sample size I did isnt enough though.
Hahaha 😂 I inspired your video thanks Peek. I'm Still mad at WeeGEe though didn't even play yesterday neither. I usually spend at least a couple hrs a week in Ships, but I saying stay away from any and all WG games for a while. Alabama is one of my favorite ships at tier 7 atm, expensive to earn takes months of grinding, or you can spend mounds of 💸 even buying that GXP is outrageously overpriced so I earned her thats what makes me even more 🤬 off. I canceled my Subscription services for everything too, cuz they jacked the prices up too 🤬. It's my days off too time to relax but, with all the spaghetti Coding going on I spent over 21 hrs in skyrim Elder Scrolls 5 limited addition playing offline missions 😂. I went out and bought a stack of Ps3 @($1×5) and PS4 Games @($6×7) a game & having a blast was cheaper than giving WG any of my hard earned money and got more money for my value Entertainment.😂😂😂😊
You know Bama is my fave BB. I also run ALNJ as the commander. I’ll play it today & see what’s up. If it’s screwy, I’ll try a different commander & follow up on this comment. ✌🏽
I believe you can do better than that. In the 2nd video, you were shooting on targets at ranges of 7-9km (Fletcher,Venetto) whereas in the first you were constantly over 10-11km away in order to maximize the AL Jersey potential
Something like this only happens when there are changes to the Sigma of the ships. Sigma allows for better centering and grouping of shells. Bad sigma would cause exactly that. I guess they did a silent adjustment to many ships to combat the way better stats after introducing the legendary mods and all that. Shops became way better than they expected I guess, so yeah. It’s just a theory, I don’t claim to know anything, but this would be my guess.
More and more enemy ships feels like they are getting bot protection even though they are constantly broadside and never correct themselves.
Yep! Broadside GK at 12 km manages to split all of my shells from Republique when I aimed halfway up the hall. They still landed low and no damage. He returns fire with HE of course and gets like 10k damage. Wargaming FIX YOUR SHIT!
@@G19Jeeper HE > AP confirmed
The shell grouping in most of my ships seems 10x worse. The shells either fall really short or fly straight over the target a lot too.
Yep, I’ve noticed the lack of grouping and dispersion on my bama, Georgia, and Iowa lately bro. In the past month and a half, it’s fallen off by a pretty wide margin.
My iowa is accurate, I've built an accuracy build on my battleships and only problems I have are German accuracy but that's normal
I would say it’s the code in the epic and legendary modules, and how they stack with other buffs in your build. I remember there was an issue in the past with artillery plotting room and how they stacked with some of the commanders
Typical WG nerfing older ships to make you spend money on new ones.......... nothing changes with WG
My guess was it had something to do with Mobile players joining us timeline seem to fit
Are you sure it's not just battleships in general? I think they've been slowly nerfing bbs with rng for a while now to try to get people to play something other than a damn battleship since that's like 80% of the playerbase.
I still think something changed on AL NJ. She doesn't have the accuracy perk so I wonder if it was put in by mistake and they reversed it? I mean it was in the coding.
Some science is required here.
Same here Peek my grouping is just all over the place... Taking that guys guns had me LMAO btw 😂
I bought the AL Nelson commander last update to run on my Nelson and KGV. Previous I had Cunningham and the nelson in particular was incredibly accurate. Now with AL nelson at the same level and Cunningham as inspo it seems noticeable different despite the same accuracy buffs being applied through skills and inspos. I don’t know what AL nelson was like before the update but I also agree with the Georgia so things are definitely pointing to something happening during the last update.
Trust me it's not just battleships I've noticed it on all my ships and trops also are also all over the place
My Alabama was a murderer, I'd get 3-5 sinks a match, multiple citadels... now I'm lucky to get 1 or 2 in a match. This breaks my heart and makes me not want to play if my favorite ships get nerfed.
Now how is the alabama? Cause i would like to take it tonorrow. There is also the flandre... wich i mean, i have already a lot of american boats, would be nice a change. What do u think?
@@GIUSEPPE2245 I have 298 ships, I've had this game from the biggining, there are so many good ships from all nations that seem to be less dangerous, I don't know if that's intentional or a product of so many new ships that are good...
Bama has been a troll for me for probably 3 to 4 months so no surprise here
I agreed with you on your first video about Georgia but the past 2 days it’s actually been shooting rail guns so I have no idea what the go is🤣
Something is definitely wrong with the game currently
they definitely did something to the American bb recently, the used to stick together like glue with the right commanders of course but after watching your vid yesterday and trying lvl 6 thru legendary USN i lost my freaking mind, switched to the musashi and for 4 games straight they were lasers.... the worst was the Kansas then Colorado everything else was mehh
Ijn bbs are also affected. When i try to lock on a ship; it puts me all over the place. When i shoot. Shells fall short and long... feels like im in a KM bb. 😢
Noticed my Tennessee and Colorado have the same issue, would check New Mexico to see if the Spaghetti is loose
Peek i reckon do a video where you take georgia in training rooms fill it out with yamatos and see if your dispersion is better
AL New Jersey had old Alabama dispersion this weekend for me
Were you using AL NJ in that old vid? Maybe the commander is bugged. idk.
Switch to sims, i have that same commander and she is bugged, had her on all my american battleships and couldn't hit anything, put sims on, and my accuracy got considerably better
I also remember my Alabama being more accurate and also my Amagi. PGRapidz has an Amagi video from like 9 months ago, I think, where he was like "OK, Amagi, I see you" after shooting lazer beams.
I've had to put those epic and legendary mods on it to even come close to what it used to do.
Bro you need double sigma build, keep AL NY but inspirations Cunningham and Iachino
Yo peak. WG did it again hah? Lol just wanna inform you not just your Alabama it’s happened to all American BB. My Iowa WAS laser beam before until it’s not. It’s like WG added more dispersion to American now
A "Cluster" is a good term. LOL🤣🤣
I only recently got that ship and it has always done that
Alabama has hit the skids, seriously. I have noticed that when I leave it alone for awhile, I can come back and have an awesome game. The next game will be miserable. It’s almost Wargaming is punishing certain ships for being played too much, and wants the player base to shift to other ships.
Yeah, I got the George W and New Jersey after you made that accuracy video on it. It was great for a few weeks then it went to shit. Now I cant hit the broad side of a barn from the inside. 😢
do the commander swap and inspiration change and then revert, similar to what happened with secondaries a few patches ago
Maybe it’s me, but my shells grouping has been good. Dev strike after Dev strike.
I've noticed it to my Georgia W is not accurate then my New Jersey is all of sudden sniper accurate and I took marksmanship of my West Virginia and my West Virginia seems to be consistent ever since I think dispersion is bugged in general like on Scharnhorsts base trait sniper and even on the marksmanship skill and itll probably be the same with the new british commander john fisher for upcoming british battlecruiser
Yep my bama isnt doing great for a while my ga unplayable
It’s very obvious on the Georgia and it’s noticeable on Alabama but yes, there has been something done to the code which I hope they try to fix
My yamy for some reason has a bot protection like yesterday i shoot two full salvos against a yamy with no camo and literally got overpens and 2-4 pens and on the third he got smacked guess rng has a idiotproof protection
It seems like My Kansas doesn't hit as well
You can look at pgs video of the alabama
Dude I’m telling you something changed with my American bbs
Alabama was my go to forever always averaged 130k to 150k to 200k damage. If I didn't hit that mark I felt like I didn't do my job. Then the guns just stop being reliable and then the go to was republic and Georgia with the republic being the favorite of the 2. But last time I played it the guns just wasn't hitting like they use to. At that point I just figure the more people played those ships and the stats come up for damage and win rate they change and or shadow nerffed the boats so every one would switch up or the game would balance out
After the GA vid, I took some other 6 gun boats out this weekend (Gneiser, Repulse, etc) and they were getting one hit or two at all ranges. Infuriating. Tried Repulse again here on Monday morning for a quickie, and things were grouped back up again. Not scientific, but who knows if some general fixes (not necessarily targeted to this) might've been snuck onto the servers overnight.
This has been noticeable throughout most battleships. It's either a coplete shotgun or lazerbeams that fall short. Battleships are the worst class to ay change my mind.
This holds true for my GA and AL. Can we also talk about how cruisers are left with 100 health now after getting absolutely obliterated on a broadside?
That is just unlucky about leaving cruisers on 100hp because shell damage values don’t change they have set amounts of damage they will do on a citadel a penatration and an overpenatration
i’ve never seen that camo before . is it available in the store ?
French camo.
I’ve been seen videos of people playing on the Bismarck and they have 5 heals, how do you get 5 heals?
You can run anyone of these Hyde, megatron, ciliax, AL Scharnhorst and Teslau. Just be sure to select master mechanic in the last skill row before the legendary skills and it gives you 2 heals when the commander level is 16.2.
This actually sucks because i got to go see USS Alabama irl and it was one of the coolest things ever and i want it in this game but 750k gxp is so much
Honestly i don’t know what you are talking about with the Georgia i just did a game with ai to test and it was accurate i could post the clip, i think you did a video on how the commander Scharnhorst makes your accuracy worse and the game that i just played with the accuracy being good i had AL New Jersey and cunningham (my al New Jersey is only lvl 7)
I'm not surprised they are getting nerfed because to many American battleships are to powerful and accurate in this game.
Recently im really getting annoyed with this games shell Types. HE always was strong but last games are really taking the piss. 1v1 battle against a Kansas in a Georgia. He was the biggest potatoe you will see. Shooting HE and being broadside at 4km distance. But guess what i barely Managed to kill him bc either my shells went into water or his citadel wasnt letting me in, no matter what. He just shoots me with HE like a mug, aims somewhere and gets 15k salvos. Its mad.
Helena in Arena today kill me in my Surrey with 3!!! HE salvos even citadelling me. I got 13 overpens. I cant anymore
Im playing french battleships only. So, have no idea what you are talking about. You have a great grouping and dispersion. No any reason to complain. 😂
WEE WEE
I can say Alabama has been screwed up on WOWS PC version for about 2 years now. I remember when it was very accurate, even advertised as such in the premium shop. With a 1.9 sigma you'd expect decent consistency but most results are that of a shotgun blast. Once again talking about the PC version here. Just notice a trend of the console version following the PC version.
War gaming probably listed to hipper and nerfed battleship accuracy across the board because for me it’s been more than my American ships it has been my battleships from all the nations they all seam inaccurate no matter what I do
@Let Um Peek That looks like a change to Sigma, rather than Dispersion. At 3:28, That shot looks like a VERY tight shot out of something like an Amagi. Something is DEFINITELY up here
Yea battle ships in general seemed nerfed accuracy..so many are just shotguns..cruisers are meta right now destroyers in rough spot right now too w all radars and everything..could totally put bey back to normal and be fine
Battleships seemed to be back to normal did u notice? I wonder if shadow nerfed because there numbers were up do to more and more people getting new captains fully upgraded
Bro - You really need to take a break from wows-- Like not a few days, a few weeks. Maybe longer
i took over a month off - i speak the truth, incompetent leadership is ruining the game.
@@letumpeek I was
Once where you were. I’m back but I took off 6-8 months and came back sort of refreshed 😂. I find it helps to drink moderately at minimum for maximum enjoyment
Georgia for me is still hitting hard but accuracy is noticeably worse like you said but Alabama has been terrible unfortunately.
Do not use the lane it sucks
I use a different commander on my Alabama
Yep i noticed the Alabama taking damage much easier now. The shots do not do damage and are too inaccurate now. Same with the Tirpitz making it unplayable now. I am fucking tired of corporations constantly nerfing and changing the game at will now.
So before, taking Scharnhorst off as an inspiration increased accuracy so I wonder what would happen if you put her back on? would the accuracy get even worse or get better? If it does get better then it begs the question of did wargaming secretly change the accuracy and such or is it just so buggy you have to constantly swap Scharnhorst on and off depending on ship accuracy that update?
I put her back on and It got better according to my training room test. I also did some testing back in july when it was worse with scharnhorst like you said. This seems to be the case only with american full accuracy builds with the plotting room mod. Warspite worked as intended with scharn. It must be said that the sample size I did isnt enough though.
with any luck maybe peek will do an extensive test on it like he's done on other stuff in the past
Hahaha 😂 I inspired your video thanks Peek. I'm Still mad at WeeGEe though didn't even play yesterday neither. I usually spend at least a couple hrs a week in Ships, but I saying stay away from any and all WG games for a while. Alabama is one of my favorite ships at tier 7 atm, expensive to earn takes months of grinding, or you can spend mounds of 💸 even buying that GXP is outrageously overpriced so I earned her thats what makes me even more 🤬 off. I canceled my Subscription services for everything too, cuz they jacked the prices up too 🤬. It's
my days off too time to relax but, with all the spaghetti Coding going on I spent over 21 hrs in skyrim Elder Scrolls 5 limited addition playing offline missions 😂. I went out and bought a stack of Ps3 @($1×5) and PS4 Games @($6×7) a game & having a blast was cheaper than giving WG any of my hard earned money and got more money for my value Entertainment.😂😂😂😊
well u guys used new jersey commander to dev strike everything so that accuracy nerf is well needed
Since the New Jersey came out it been bad
My kansas is also affected its less accurate
What about Iowa maybe even worse?
You know Bama is my fave BB. I also run ALNJ as the commander. I’ll play it today & see what’s up. If it’s screwy, I’ll try a different commander & follow up on this comment. ✌🏽
Seems a bit better than Georgia but yeah still less accurate.
I believe you can do better than that. In the 2nd video, you were shooting on targets at ranges of 7-9km (Fletcher,Venetto) whereas in the first you were constantly over 10-11km away in order to maximize the AL Jersey potential
Something like this only happens when there are changes to the Sigma of the ships. Sigma allows for better centering and grouping of shells. Bad sigma would cause exactly that. I guess they did a silent adjustment to many ships to combat the way better stats after introducing the legendary mods and all that. Shops became way better than they expected I guess, so yeah. It’s just a theory, I don’t claim to know anything, but this would be my guess.
Hadn't played in a few weeks. Took out the USS Mass--couldn't hit anything. Back to starfield!
The game sucks on console. Play it on PC.
That dispersion is pretty dogwater. I don't know what to say 🤷