BATTLE FOR ARRAKIS FULL SCENE DUNE 2 - FREMEN VS SARDAUKAR - PAUL OVERTHROWS THE EMPEROR
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- From the critically acclaimed film, Dune 2. The Emperor arrives with his army of Sardaukar soldiers who are legendary for their skill in combat. The Emperor's allies House Harkonnen under the leadership of the Baron and Feyd also arrive to fight the Fremen. Little does the Emperor or the Harkonnens know that Paul has combined the forces of Northern and Southern Arrakis who believe that Paul is the Lisan Al-Gaib, the messiah who will lead the Fremen to paradise
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I mean, the Sardaukar got the floor wiped in their blood in this battle, but the fact that they got back into formation and stood ground after literally getting nuked is impressive.
They also look like their first instinct is to stand their ground even against the worms, and they hesitate for a few moments - until it dawns on them their deaths wouldn't even slow the worms down - before running. Which, to my mind, shows these are really dedicated and ballsy fighters. They are touted as being a superbly trained and disciplined infantry force, and they _do_ show it repeatedly, including here. But that doesn't change that they are 'just' infantry, they've been taken by surprise, and they are being charged by a... er... mega-worm-cavalry?.... which they can't even scratch, backed by a force of ready-to-die fanatics that outnumbers them. Even great discipline has limits, and their training would, in this situation, have told them that running and trying to survive - and maybe selling their lives in some actually meaningful way later - was in fact the best thing they could do.
@@studentjohn honestly, that one dude who held his ground for a bit had heavy balls
They were not nuked. It is expressly forbidden to use House atomics against any members of the Landsraad. The only reason Paul got away with this is because he aimed his at the shield wall and made sure nobody died from the atomics themselves.
well said
Yeah.. most impressive.. and where are those shield functions we saw in the first movie? Am i missing somthing??
The millions of fanatics charging over the sand is an epic sight. The emperor brought their entire army, but without considerable air cover they’d have been completely overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
The sandstorm brought down most of the air coverage
sounds like israhells strat
Well you need Spacing Guild to transport the Landsraad fleet to Arrakis because FTL travel is Spacing Guild’s guarded secret.
When Landsraad fleet arrived at Arrakis, it was too late.
Everyone has a plan until..... Giant worms rise from the sand, devour your army
The way the sheer disbelief within the Sardaukar was described in the book is so accurately put to film....
4:32 props to the guy on the right for doing a front flip to avoid a Sardaukar's blade swipe.
That "guy" is Chani (Zendaya).
@@Slickrock72 no there is another one on the right
Bro even took 2 of them out right as he lands! Making Chani look like a noob! xD
That scene is amazing. Also the fact that this is not a one-on-one fight. They're helping each other out.
Don't forget, Duncan once said they fight like demons
Sandworms: *TODAY IS A BUFFET!*
mmm, Sardaukar....now little maker has to go shyte some pre-spice mass
Super cool, amazing movies, but in the books if a sandworm ingests the water of one human it's enough to kill them.
@@grizzlyunicorn76Indeed, but the gullets of full-grown sand worms are basically massive blast furnaces that evaporate the water and dilute it with sand and mineral content. More to the point, it’s a matter of toxicity, volume vs scale, a handful of humans are not toxic enough (not enough water volume) to kill a massive adult or elder worm. Juvenile sand worms are killed to harvest the Water of Life by fully submerging them, so there’s definitely a breakpoint point where water becomes toxic at a high enough volume. Tossing an adult worm in an ocean, for instance, would surely kill it.
For instance, WE eat many things that at high enough doses would be toxic to us, but at low doses we don’t even notice, or just get an upset stomach if we’re particularly sensitive to something. For instance, two teaspoons of nutmeg can be hazardous to a human, but less than that is just a common nutty flavored spice. Too much cinnamon can be toxic as well (ironic since Spice is said to smell and taste a bit like cinnamon).
Taking a couple acetaminophen won’t harm you and can relieve pain. Take too much in one day or one dose, and you can suffer serious, even fatal, liver damage.
So yeah, might be some worms with upset stomachs after the battle, but few if any fatalities.
Funny though that the Fremen ride their gods to the point of exhaustion, poison and kill their young for a ritual toxin, and micro-dose them with water using them as weapons. Not the nicest ways to worship your godly avatars. 😆
Fremen: SHOW US THE WAY!
Sandworms: FEED US!
Sandworms eat a type of plankton, not animal flesh. They killed the enemy forces by crushing them.
They explain this with a device called a Sand Compactor. It emulates the vibration frequency Sandworms use to move easily through Sand by effectively liquifying it. It’s a pretty major tool on the planet that’s clearly been incorporated into Freemen societal practices.
Such a device could perhaps remove millions of forgotten mines that are killing people and children around our own world!
@@djsomali4414 If you were to breakdown the location of the single greatest concentration of mines in the world is, it'd be along the DMZ between North and South Korea, and it's largely the reason why NK hasn't come south in generations. It's far from desert, and thus wouldn't be much help.
@@LabTech41 Thanks for the reply. Perhaps one day God willing.
@@LabTech41 I figure the NK leadership also knows that they likely wouldn't be able to conquer the south and it would be a bloodbath for both sides.
i think that its maybe tleilax technology,
How many Atomics? 89, My Lord...
I believe there weren't 92 total warheads, there were 92 original Atreides families who each had an atomic arsenal. 92 warheads of the size we saw used would not be enough to "blow up the whole planet" as it were. Additionally, Gurney doesn't say the 92 warheads of the Original Atreides family, he says the 92 original Atreides family's (he says family's plural) atomic warheads. Maybe I'm wrong but I never took it as 92 total warheads.
@@lightsflashnow Oh, I see. 92 Family's worth of warheads - which then means thousands or so, right?
@@lightsflashnowentão, quantos haviam?
@@lightsflashnow He fired 3 of them during the battle
Thing about nuclear weapons... they're not actually great at removing mountains.
That standard bearer (the man carrying the flag) must have felt truly blessed going into Arakeen like that. Think about it: he is carrying the banner of the Lisan al Giab, a hawk motif (hawks being one of the only non-Arakkis lifeforms that can survive there), following the man who trained Mua'duib how to fight! If that wasn't enough, he was there when Gurney Halleck fought and easily defeated the Beast Rabban in single combat! If that standard banner were a Southerner that moment might have been the dream of his ancestors and here he is, fulfilling that dream of freeing Arakkis under the watchful eye of the Lisan al Giab.
Devotion like that is a powerful weapon if wielded correctly. It's no wonder then that the Harkonnen never stood a chance.
Beautifully put. Reminded me of something out of game of thrones. The Atreides revenge tour
its actually the Atreides raptor on the banner lel
I love that shot so much, besides Stilgar the flag bearer is the only man steadily standing on the back of the sandworm. And also later when Gurney is fighting through the harkonen soldiers, the flag bearer is closely behind him, following his every steps while keeping the flag high and in front.
Also worth mentioning that being the flag bearer is usually one of the strongest warriors among the army and it's one of the highest honors to be one, this battle must have already been paradise to that fremen warrior.
Bro that was well written. The man carrying the flag is a symbol to all
Devotion like that saw Islam take a third of the known world in, what, two centuries?
Weird to put a watermark on something you don’t have a copyright to.
Very true.
Why strange? its his vid so that is that. That he doesnt own dune we all can anticipate. Still the vid and editing are his.
SARDAUKER INFANTYMAN: Sir, I have to ask you about our deployment here. Why are we just standing in the open on the sand here in a massed formation?
SARDAUKER OFFICER: ...
because we are going to die
SARDAUKER OFFICER: I watched Game of Thrones and I think I can do it better...
Talvez pq eles acabaram de chegar no planeta e não esperavam uma batalha logo no início?
@@marcospereira6721 Isso até que faz sentido...
officer: because we completely ignored the fact that fremen can ride literal worms like cavalry
I can't wait for the Ditch Guy to review this battle and point at the lack of ditches and the masses of people running into each other without formations
I'll be guest Ditch Guy for a laugh ...
"Absolutely unforgivable lack of anything resembling defensive fortifications, and nary an entrenching tool amongst the lot of these rank amateurs!"
If we're going by strategy, it's probably not a good idea to use ditches in this particular scenario because the sandworms attack by tunneling from below.
0:51 Paul Mewing Atreides
Paul "Mewdib" Atreides
Paul "Mogdib" Atreides
6:54 was so awesome in the theater, seeing the robed figures emerge from the haze. Totally unstoppable at this point.
I know the sardukaur right now is being depicted as weakened and properly stagnated, but it was so badass seeing them rise from the dust and go straight back to formation. Especially this guy at 2:00
They were stagnant at a very high level, the Atreides were the only house that came close, and even the Fremen only truly surpassed them after combining Atreides training with their own.
@@Nickname-ef9tv the recurring theme for dune's most elite fighting force is stagnation. The sarduakar got comfortable being uncontested and the same thing happened to the fremen when they were given their green paradise
@@vaporsouls6752well, Leto II did that very much on purpose, as he wouldn't be able to control the Fremen anywhere near as well as the Fish Speakers.
What formation bro😂
Exactly. Them rising from the sand and ashes is a great moment of defiance.
On every other world, the Sardukar could turn on their personal shields and their fighting style was based on this. Not on Arrakis. They're out of their element and it showed when they were fighting Chani's troops.
Right!
why can't they turn on their personal shields? Because they attract worms? Who cares about worms when you are going to die?
Couldn’t have said it better. They didn’t know how to fight this opponent. No one in the entire galaxy knows how Fremen fight
why wouldn't they turn on their shields if the sandworms, under fremen guidance, had already been attacking their base?
@@benwinter6563because when the worms are under the command of the fremen they’re at least predictable and under control, if a worm senses a shield vibration it goes berserk destroying everything around it
There's just something about the Sardaukar yelling in fear running from this massive WORM out of nowhere
You can’t fight a worm on foot. Something that big shouldn’t move. Yet it does and you can’t stop it
Eine echte Elitetruppe rennt nicht weg - vor allem nicht schreiend.
0:52 paul don't look at nuke explosions
They are bad for your eyes...
Wasn't he blinded by Atomics in a later book?
@@jack1701e i think it was a special type of bomb that was designed to blind enemies en-masse but yeah, I mean, you wouldn't even need one irl. if you raw-dogged a nuke at that range you'd have some problems.
@@jack1701e shush
Paul wasn't there. Notice that his location changed drastically during the launch, and the explosion. Another instance is he walked before the charging army when he was supposed to be at the mountain far away with Stilgar. It is a movie expression describing his prescience power of "being everywhere at once", as described by the Bene Genesit.
@@mcgoose258 It wasn't designed specifically to blind enemies, it was called a Stone-Burner and was more like a nuclear Incendiary device. It DID however put out pretty horrific radiation and light that straight up burnt out one's eyes
You can imagine the rage from Atreides house, to deploy not 1 but 3 nuclear strikes at the emperor. Such outrage.
I think the Atreides would be more upset about the Emperor arranging to have their duke killed
I think that was more tactical matter-of-fact: they needed three nukes to demolish that mountain.
@@Madcat221 Exactly.
All this happened cause Barron believed the south was inhabited, and never looked, Raban even point it out before he smashes one of his guys heads into the console. The Harkonens thought there waz like 50,000 freemen but the atreides mentat after talking to Duncan after Duncans scouting mission and telling Dukes counsel how big seeches are, says there could be millions of freemen.
The Fremen is not really posing much of a problem before Paul comes along. No need to worry about them for the Baron.
The reason the Baron didn't know was because there are no satellites over Arrakis, this is said in the first film. The book explains this is because the Fremen bribe the spacing guild with access to spice so they don't put satellites up and give away their true number. The only way the Baron would ever know is if they sent troops to the South itself but they can't because their aircraft can't cross the storms (only the worms can), so they're literally blind and as you say they basically assume there's hardly any life in the South
@@thecappeningchannel515 Half truth. The Fremen don't actively insert themselves into the political machinations of the larger universe. They do actively kill Harkonnen's and sabotage their spice production as they are seen as blasphemy against the worms which are regarded as a deity.
I love that scene. Everyone dislikes how it feels barebones compared to the book but it trims the climax down to its most crucial points. The Baron is defeated because of his own hubris still based on the overall Harkonnen ignorance that there were 50k on the WHOLE Planet like what?! Of course the Emperor is gonna kill him for making such a stupid mistake.
You're right, Thufir in Part One literally foreshadows this sequence
What if they just landed in the south from space instead of trying to cross the sandstorms once they were already on the planet’s surface?
Imagine you have airsupport and you still lost
Uhhh....Vietnam?
Almost like that’s why Paul attacked RIGHT BEFORE a sandstorm smh. There are issues with this scene but yall contrarians chose the parts that make sense
The worms cause static electricity summoning that storm. The copters are destroyed mostly.
IKR, it's not like there wasn't a "great grandmother" of a sandstorm or anything. If only there was a way you could literally see that airsupport get decimated by such a storm at 3:45 or anything. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@stefanlvkc7986 and the movie still shows those two copters shooting lasers at the fremen before Rabban is killed. But they were swamped by that time by the fremen.
Okay. Fremen soldiers exploding out of the dirt is a cool effect, but is that really practicable? Dirt is pretty heavy.
they tunnel easily with sand compactors bro
Yes, people can run through sand. Also, giant worms can swim through it. Lolz…jfc
@@thikifo395I was wondering how they got there in the first place because they was close to the sardarkar to close to walk up and busy themselves.
With vibration. Sand turn into liquid form
@@ballbby3775 while the worms were rushing in chanis group were getting in position.
3:55 reminds me of old medieval movies like kingdom of heaven, i love it
LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!
*martyrs
Will upload a scene from part 2 I can't find on TH-cam
"A good hunter must climb the highest dunes so that he can see..... " right before Paul heads south
Lisan al gaib
Man, those atomics almost took out the palace, and the emperors ship.
Almost broke the treaty but got away with it not aiming at human centers.
Part of the assault plan was to take the Emperor hostage. The other great houses are in orbit above. Legitimacy for Atreides rule is dependent on some kind of agreement with house Corrino to abdicate...Especially, after beginning the battle with nuclear weapons... Thus the marriage with Princess Irulan...
The ship has a Holtzman shield. Hitting it directly with Nukes would literally obliterate a continent, hell it could crack Arrakis in two.
@@janlim0916 That's if you hit a Holtzman shield with a laser weapon. Just hitting it with a nuke, isn't going to produce the same effect, but it WOULD turn all the Great Houses against Paul and destroy any legitimacy to his claim to the throne
You're thinking of lasguns, atomics would have little or no effect on a shield.
The thumpers thumping in rhythm was epic!
@ 02:52: The PERFECT DEFINITION of the term:
Epic Mount
Riding your God into battle as cavalry troops.
Depends on how you define God, but arent we all just pawns to something or someone we cannot control?
@@thaturifyi the Fremen do think the sand worms are gods, and worship them as such. They are sacred to them.
Epic scene. This edit cuts out one of my favorite parts: the fremen using ~dozen thumpers to call the sandworms for the battle.
This movie was amazing.
4:03 this is epic
Fun fact they had to do multiple takes with the sand worm because it always forgot it’s lines and kept messing up takes by laughing, Villanove finally had enough and opted to replace it with cgi.I hear the sand worm is staring in an off broadway show of Cats
I wish Duncan Idaho was alive to fight alongside Paul and Gurney. Three of them together would be epic.
Duncan Idaho will return in Dune Messiah
@@grailness1085what exactly does duncan do in dune messiah?🤔i heard that in the later books they clone him?and will we get to see more of the saudakar? In the next film?
@@ukrainefighter2456 The Sardaukar are replaced by the Fremen to be the strongest warriors in the universe. In the movie all Sardaukar are wiped out. Duncan Idaho is cloned by the Bene Thelax to be a gift to Paul Atreides and be a sleeper agent that will assassinate Paul.
@@grailness1085 holy cow!! That story sounds pretty dark and epic! But do you think its possible we might see heavy action in the next film?🤔so basically in the dune story the freman are basically just as good as the saudakar and then when part 2 story came along they eventually surpassed them overall?🤔i heard the bene thelax can shapeshift? Is that true. Man! So many cool stories to come. I wonder how denis villenueve gonna pull off this third film? Its gonna be hard
@@grailness1085 alot of people have pointed out or kinda disappointed that we didn’t get to see more of the battle scene in pt2 and what the saudakar were capable of. People were expecting an even fight. Even me when i first watched the movie.
I was a bit surprised by that. but in the books it was described that the freman were OP at this point so🤷what did you think of it? it would be nice if there was an extended cut of dune pt 1 and 2. We get to see extra battle scenes or something. But the director said its not his style.
The Fremen riding sandworms into battle like the greatest shock cavalry of all time is S-tier epic!
Love this movie or hate it, seeing the worms come out of the storm on a Supermax screen was worth every penny.
You're saying love it or hate it like it bombed or something. It not only made bank for a niche franchise but also achieved significant critical acclaim.
@@maazahmed506 I say love it or hate it like there's book purists everywhere you go denouncing the film as garbage because it doesn't go page for page from the source material.
I like this movie a lot, you don't need to tell me how successful it was.
@@joeb1955Yeah, I get it. LOTR book purists used to be the same way. Now most of them love the trilogy for what it is. I think they just need time to grow more familiar to it. The ones I think are actually stupid are the folks with attention spans of humming birds dumping on the movie and calling it boring.
@@maazahmed506 DUNC did not make bank
>films only get between 50-55% of the box office
>DUNC part deux made 712 million globally
>the movie studio only got 392 million of that before taxes
>DUNC part deux production budget is 190 million
>marketing budget is 50-100 million
>ancillaries budget is 10-20 million
>Dunc Part Deux made 142 million before taxes
And this is the best case scenario. Movie studios always underreport production budgets and don't report marketing or ancillaries budgets specifically for the purpose of making movies appear more profitable. Also the international returns are typically 40% not anywhere near 50% and DUNC made 430 million internationally (the bulk of it's returns). So this was the absolute best case scenario.
Realistically DUNC Part Deux made 43 million. Also Warner Bros is over 50 BILLION in debt so it really doesn't matter if any of their films make a profit anymore. The studio will be bankrupt and selling off assets in a few years. So when you don't see future DUNC films you know why. Later negros.
0:52 Didn't his mama tell him not to look at stone burners head on? He's going to regret this someday.
Desert Power!!!!❤❤
I have yet to see it, but I am mightily impressed.
Movies are amazing not gonna lie
THE SPICE MUST FLOW!
5:36 Oh damn, Thanos just killed Drax!
LoL. 😂 Yeah👍
Lol
The irony of the Sardaukar is that they're absolutely the elite... in conventional warfare.
Conventional warfare in Dune requires shields and close combat weaponry, with the killing blow being slowed down to pierce the shield. Shields can't be used on Arrakis due to the worms being drawn to them. Thus, these experts in shielded melee combat are completely incapable of dealing with foes who are used to unshielded combat in the desert.
This is why the Emperor had to be lured to Arrakis: On their home ground where they could use standard tactics, the Sardaukar would win, just like when they stormed the Atreides estate. It was only by bringing them out in the desert where all of their advantages were neutralized could the Fremen win. Striking where your enemy is weakest and you are strongest is the most fundamental principles of strategic warfare, and Paul was taught very well by his mentors.
GOTs really missed an opportunity with the assault on Kings Landing. Instead of fucking everything up, it should have been the three dragons, John riding one, the Darthraki, and the North attacking from one side. Then, it should have been Oberyn daughters leading hundreds of thousands of Dornish fighters to the gate to slaughter the Golden Company.
"Famly Atomics" ... what a concept
I might have to watch Dune 2 again😆
The Freman were descendants of people who fled the Sardukar world in search of a challenge. Tougher than tough.
I love how the Fremen are making quick work of the Harkonnen despite them using shields.
It was cool to see Chani using a maula pistol.
when the worm emerges from the fog and even though we know EXACTLY what is going to happen... it makes you shiver
now i do know paul needed the emperor alive, but i cant shake the thought of imagining the warheads ending up hitting the ENTIRE sardaukar army and its structures
like paul would've went "...we've drawn our blades for nothing now"
I have a small feeling that Feyd would have regretted taking a few more steps to Chani.
Addaam reshii a-zaanta!
Paul sure does have a bad habit of staring into nuclear blasts.
0:03 bro can't stop glazing at his lisan al gib
Sardaukar: Fremen from the North! We can take em!
Fremen under the sand: Bonjour...
Scene was far too short after taking an age to get there
That is exactly the idea, show paul's power
Pretty much just as short in the book.
@@bega2116hey i have a question. But are we gonna see more of the saudakar? In dune messiah? 🤔what other factions could we see in the next film?
Glad I saw this in theaters at least 🔥 shit was going down for real
I'm now re=re=reading the books.
The moment the worms come thru the dust in INCREDIBLE.
I remember Josh Brolan being so much younger.
And after all this, the other Great Houses arriving and say, No, we're not going to accept you, these Freman all load into the Emperor's ships and take off for a holy war AFTER having just defeated the Emperor entirely that very day or the day after. This movie makes Paul's galactic war visceral and gives a more direct clear reason why he continued out into the stars. Brutal.
3:55 this is a powerful shot
These are futuristic nukes guys. They are fusion stabilized. Whom ever has the weapon can increase or decrease the yield. If you want a theoretical 100% fission you can do that.
Thank you. I watched it in theater and really, really had to go pee so I missed the nuke and the worms :D
The movie establishes the fremen as deadliest warriors in the universe. Just look at the agility of this fremen guy 4:31 in the background on the right. Not to mention that Chani is cutting through the sardaukar formation like a knife through butter.
1:27 rabban already knows the drill, he's getting the F out of there lmao
I just realized the first saudakars line was killed in the dust.
Where are we at 4:50? Inside the emperor's triangle shaped building eh??
Is it me or "Sardaukar" command when Paul enters chamber is slightly modified voice of Duncan Idaho from first Dune, right before he dies fighting them?
Wish the battle lasted longer than a minute
5:10 I wish there was more on the battle within the city. This only shows AirPower blowing away everyone indiscriminately, but I imagine the Harkonnen were just decimated.
Unfortunately, I couldn't go to the theaters because I didn't have money, but I believe that everyone who went to watch it in IMAX was left in a state of epiphany by the grandeur of this film.
in both dune movies i think they are pulling on the segments of the werms the wrong way.
they would be facing back, not forwards.
The shield wall is more of a long term tactical decision, obviously it's going to draw everyone's attention to the that side of the basin, yes it allows worm riders through, and the rocks kill a great many people, but the rend of the shield wall returns control back to the fremen. Without it, the entire plateau is susceptible to both worms and Coriolis storms, neither of which are an obstacle to fremen, and devastating to all off-worlders in the cities and villages
Rough day at work for the Sardaukar.
Paul has worms.
How is this Full scene?
Neither the full scene nor in order.
You would think they see the sandworms already coming id just say fuck it and put the shields on prob have a better chance
Talk about Death Hand in the movie 🤔
@0:50 she was standing there then she magically appears in the sand @4:45
Studios need to stop spoiling stuff in trailers. The Sandworms coming out of the sandclouds would have been a nice surprise in the theater.
I agree. Trailers these days tend to show too much to market a movie and build hype.
1:05 I never understood if their ship was harvesting the spice directly or not
That ship is just hovering there, the orange effect coming off it is its energy shields being hit by the sandstorm/wind.
One thing I always found interesting with the battle aftermath: The Fremen burn the bodies of the Sardaukar, rather than recover their water. It's like an insult after death - You're not even worth your water weight to us.
A bit perplexing to me cause in the books they held some form of timid mutual respect for each other or i atleast understood it as recognizing each others as warriors
What I love is that even at the sight of a monstrous near-invincible creature coming right for them so many of the Sardaukar actually stood their ground and retreated at the last moment. Truly hardcore.
They may be the "Emperor's blades", but they certainly weren't the sharpest.
My question is how the hell were there Fremen already out in the sand
They use a tool named sand compactor to sneak upon their enemies under the sand.
Can someone explain to me why was the emperor there btw? Why not in space or in orbit?
6:32 SARDAUKAR!
How was Rabban going to get off world? Wouldn't he have needed the Spacing Guild to get to safety?
This battle was criminally short. 😡
Thought the battle will be epic but sardaukar got ambushed and outplayed
Yes because its showing that fremen are more skilled. Even without the worms they still outbest the sardaukar.
@@Borojxnn yeah
@@BorojxnnAre we to say the same thing about the Atreides that got ambushed by the harkonnens? If the whole series wasn't an entire home game for the fremen it would have been a lot more even, especially if the Sardaukar could use there usual doctrines revolving around anything holtzman
@@josef1391 The atreides are some of the best warriors in the galaxy greater than the harkonnens however the sardaukar the emperors warriors are finer and that's how house corino has stayed In power. No, the fremen are still dangerous off world especially since they were extremely successful with the jihad led by Paul as they go on to kill 68+ billion people off world of Dune.
@@Borojxnn Yeah against, Ecaz and Hagal the other imperial "hitchhikers" houses and if memory serves me right (if read the books in 2015) house Corrino the only real threat to the fremen was pretty much in shambles by the time paul decided to go apeshit and level the rest of the landsraad for good.
My point was ambushing someone doesnt really reflect their combat skills as shown by house harkonnen but i also don't think the Sardaukar would've beaten the Fremen in the long run no matter what, cause frank has established them as superior which is a canon fact but i'd like to think it would've been a tad more interesting in lore and on the big screen if the Sardaukar where given a more symmetrical approach in warfare, im convinced the campaign would've dragged significantly for paul
ADRIENNEEEEEE!!!-ooh wrong movie
Guy looks like nicholas cage
Dune 2 was missing the Weirding Modules. Doesn't make sense without them. I just can't suspend my disbelief that much.
There is no such thing as weirding modules in the books. That was an invention of the David Lynch film.
2:40 The Sardukar which didn't run, would have been actually the smart ones! Because they didn't die tired.
Am I the only one who noticed that the thopters were shielded? That would have sent the worms into an uncontrolled killing frenzy.
Yeah I’m a book nerd!🤦♂️
Probably cant feel it in the air
NOM NOM NOM!
🎉
I love how people in this universe are so afraid of the Sardaukars, but then one fremen will go and massacre 8 or 9 of them before finally being taken out.
They kinda gloss over this in the new films, but the reason the Fremen are borderline invincible in melee combat is because Paul and Jessica train them in the "weirding way," which is essentially Bene Gesserit martial arts. Their deadliness and reaction times are through the roof by this point.
@@derek96720 Would have been an important addition. Now the Sardukar just seem pathetic and weak which doesn't seem belivable.
@@----ic6pwThe sardaukar are threatening to the other houses but not to the fremen. The fremen are like the sardaukar but cranked to 10x.
@@Borojxnn Fremen are also the best at fighting without shields, Sardaukar would have a higher kill rate with shield's activated. Fremen warriors are still superior anyways.
@@----ic6pwYeah the "stormtrooper complex" a cool elite unit that's being hyped upped just to be made the laughingstock by the heroes for plots sake, usually without proper reasoning.
(Not saying that dune doesn't deliver an explanation for this but its quite hidden especially for people who just watched the movies)
What is even better than the fremen bursting out of the sand is them running full speed at their enemies like a bunch of crazed demons.
Still not sold on this weirding way business though. Martial arts take time to learn, like many years. No way you could train this number of people in so short a time, and it isn't like the Saduakar wouldn't have their own efficient fighting style. The 80s movie sound guns was a better explanation of the fremen's dominance.
In the film they weren’t trained in the weirding way as Paul was only among the Fremen for 9 months. The books he was with them for 2 years. So this is just to showcase how they surpassed the Sardukar naturally.
Sardukar are used to fighting with shields but Fremen never use shields so in a heat of battle Sardukar essentially are trying to use pump fakes against people who never played basketball before.
They got beaten with ease. Wished it looked more that they can stand on their own but got in a disadvantaged situation. Should have been longer
They didn't need to be trained: they are comparable to sardukar before Paul comes along. Duncan says they nearly killed him on his scouting mission. Either way, Paul spends much more time with them in the book. The voice things are dumb.
@@geometerfpv2804 Very creative and cool, actually. Two years isn't enough time to train that many people. Or did the fremen overwhelm through sheer numbers? This version of the movie makes more of that case.
Gonna be very honest, anyone on that battlefield will probably be dead from radiation poisoning in a few weeks. That was a ground level nuclear detonation, the fallout from that is gonna be quite high.
Stuff that. I'd crap myself with a thousand Sandworms and a million Fremen. Stuff loyalty to the Emporer. That would be the first thing out the door
The Sardukar seem to be vastly overrated as elite soldiers.
The book mentions that the Sardaukar had become decadent and essentially had fallen prey to their own reputation. I think it says out and out that they were well into the beginning of a decline.
@@cliffstamp5885 But so powerful that even in their decline they were able to wipe out the Atreides, albeit in a surprise attack.
Because they are
They literally couldn't be at a greater disadvantage. They're foot soldiers on an open field, getting swamped by giant cavalry and with practically no air cover due to the storm.
@@atomic_wait the only reason they beat the Atreides was because their entire defense grid was down and most of their troops and ships were wiped out immediately. The book explicitly states that the Atreides army was thought to be equal or possibly superior to the Sardaukar at this time.
4:02 - I had a nerdgasm in the theater.
1:41 for me it was this one, them slowly rerecting the golden lion after a fucking nuclear explosion was epic as hell
The battle only lasted for hours because the Fremen just started trolling after all the Saud were dead and left the entire Hark army to the 72 remaining ATREIDES and Gurney (not true but wouldn’t that be hilarious)