This film was a sequel done right. It wasn't a rehash or a continuation but instead built on the original and took the audience in a completely different direction.
This entire movie very heavily implied that, during the course of Danny’s life as a physically tangible and living man, he could have psychically lobotomized *ANYONE* with his Shine, and at damn near *ANY TIME HE WISHED.* He only failed here with Rose because of how powerful and experienced she was in psychic combat. But he *ALMOST GOT HER* with one of his mind coffins. Rose was an ancient and unfathomably powerful quasi-immortal woman who used her incredibly powerful Shine to feed on the Shine of others. And he *STILL ALMOST GOT HER.* 🤯
@@Ay3shizzle I also thought about this. although it is implied and mentioned that Abra is more powerful than Danny, I believe both of them are equally powerful but with different shine. I believe people have underestimated Danny's ability basically due to how he was portrayed in the shining as a helpless scared little boy rather than someone with great potential. I mean, come on. what kind of psychic locks up a lot of powerful scary, soul eating ghosts in his mind? all the fear lurking and just waiting to come out. those fears would have fed the True Knot for eternity.
It had respect for Kubrick's vision but not King's. They even fckd about with the casting in this to make it more 'inclusive' but it's just masking greed, basically soulless virtue signaling for profit.
@@1ManNamedDan there are instances where I'd agree, this is certainly not one of them. The casting is fine, what are you even referring to? Being that its a sequel to the Kubrick film, why would they worry about King's vision when he famously hated the Kubrick film? This is perhaps among the best sequels to any film I've ever seen, but trying to be a sequel to basically THE film decades later.......this was really well done. Pretty heavy opinion over such a short clip, don't seem like you've seen the movie or you'd have said at least one specific thing rather than a vague rant.
@@50Nobody50 If you'd read the book you'd know what I'm talking about, the girl was described many times as blond with pig tails and very blue eyes. The same year they made King's Gunslinger a black man and made Sandman's pale goth Death into a black woman. I'm no bigot, I just hate this ploy to create a larger audience for profit by casting characters who are not what the author described, it subverts the vision we had when we supported the work, it's a false for profit inclusivity and not any real social or artistic effort.
@@1ManNamedDan I don't particularly like Stephen King's writing style, so no I didn't read it. Is there some experience the character has that a black girl could not have had? Is her eye color or hair color in any way pertinent to the important parts of the narrative? I am totally on board about changing the original material for no reason, but inclusion is a reason. Its only shitty if it ignores something about the original character, if it doesn't than I hate to tell you it would then sound like you are being prejudicial. I haven't read it so only you know that. Here is an example from my end.....see what you think. I read all of the Anne Rice vampire novels. The old movie with Cruise and Pitt was fine, but if you were a book purest you would have hated a couple of those character changes. The new tv series comes out last year, or two ago, and the Pitt character is now black. Also, his occupation is now a pimp. Pitt was a plantation and slave owning white man. The experience between these two people during the era of slavery would be so different that you simply can't pretend that character is in any way consistent with the original. That did piss me right off. Not because he was black, but because their different life experiences make them different characters in any situation. This movie doesn't come off to me as an obvious cash grab, its done too well for that, the real "rings of power" level cash grabs while dumping on source material almost universally suck very bad, and this movie didn't suck. Original depictions on how to show psychic power on screen.
Right? I saw it when it came out, and thought it was a damned fine sequel. It has to tread this weird line between the original film and novel, but it works.
It's the repression. Years of alcoholism hid him off the radar and he was exquisitely powerful. It is inexplicable that she didn't find him as a child - but the reason for that is he was hiding from ghosts, his mother had some very minimal shining and so did Jack. That's from the books. Together they hid him for quite some time without even realizing it. They ran from their life and hid his ability so he wasn't exploring it, and then when he aged he repressed it with alcohol. She's amazed they never detected him but that's because what person suppresses raw power? Danny might've been an alcoholic and took a turn for the worst, but he maintained a certain line. Shine power you don't use to manipulate people or steal is probably pretty rare, Danny turned to alcoholism because it was a burden, not just for what it is, but for the trauma it caused his family. This is a very unusual story, a more common one is likely their victims standard routine. You think you win the lottery, then you use your power and uh-oh, the ghouls come for you. Repressing it took humility and while it was a bad thing, it also was party of Danny's righteousness. With 100 ways to use it, he only used it to lock up ghosts and to comfort his mother. She couldn't *fathom* this, living a life *without* letting her power define it? It'd be practically blasphemy among her people. She's an aged immortal, she's had a lot of time to master this gift - and his surprises were the kind of thing she never would've done. Capturing ghosts? She couldn't even figure out what the hell could be in those coffins. She'd never dream of doing such a thing. Danny warns her too. "You don't know where you're standing". And she didn't listen, she thought her power was plenty. Couple hundred years of hubris and being an apex predator can really make you quite confident but also oblivious. It really was the only negative of her skillset, it's normally all upside.
She chose to be dismissive of him because Abra was her total focus. Both in terms of revenge for her colleagues, and the rare specimen she represented. She'd have time to pay attention to him later.
@@snafu21 She's beautiful but she immerses herself in this character so well that I can't be attracted to her. I see an interview with her and all I see is Rose the evil f*cking Hat lol
Rebecca Ferguson is so epic in this role... on the stairs at the end. He has the axe - he has the high ground (yes - I know 😁) ... but still Rose is much more threatening... and looks hot as hell 😯
It made sense a little kid got super messed up from what happened at the hotel, not to mention seeing ghost his whole life wouldn't help him adjust to "normal life"
What a great movie excited for Mike Flanagan's take on the Dark tower series. And if it does well he did mention of bringing in some of the characters from Doctor Sleep into it.
On reflection, _Doctor Sleep_ took _The Green Mile_ into account in the mythology of the Shining. A certain child-like man's simplicity kept him off the radar of those like Maggie, but it also left him unready for the darker nature of man when it encroached upon him. Daniel Torrance managed to contain his darkness and the shadows imprinted onto him by the Overlook, but John Coffey started with the horror of the deaths of those girls, followed by the Mile. When he went full-on Sin-Eater... in reverse... and fed Percy the essence of darkness as he understood it, John surpassed what Maggie was capable of. It is no wonder he wished to end; once a Shining One expresses the darkness instead, they become more than tainted. Maggie was a Shining One once, but she preferred to eat and live, embracing depravity. John Coffey managed to fight that back down, for which he is to be commended. Had he not... Certain Dark Men would have had competition. (Please note, I've said as much commenting on the clip "The Death Of Percy Whitmore" posted here by IvusRainbowHead.)
When this movie was released sincerely i didn't care...sequels are often far away to maintain the strenght of the original...this is not the case...this is pure Stephen King...more...impossible to not fall in love with Rose The Hat...wow...Hi there...anyway Kubrick' Shining is immortal...
Read his books then instead of watching movies. His short stories and novels are fantastic reads and his books cover a wide range of flavours from classic fantasy to sci-fi.
Didn't like it at first either, for the obvious reason, but I think it's alright. I'm a Flanagan fan. Oculus, Bly House, and Hill Manor. The obvious reason of it being associated with a classic.
You know I want to point out that was a really nice building. Rose herself was hotter than five gods and more powerful. Considering the way EVERYTHING has turned out as of the day I'm writing this. He should have taken her up on her offer at the top of the stairs. Danny would have been the king of the Kentucky State Fair walking around with Rose hand in hand while she wore that hat. Literally they would have given him the keys to the city of Louisville. You could do worse Danny. Many men have.
If they could've just follow the book, then the movie could've been saved. We need a closure and this movie didn't deliver. Luckily, the book did. And we did get to say our goodbye to Danny and Jack.
Maybe it’s just me but the writing really doesn’t stand up in review. It’s just missing something, it’s like a writer that hasn’t found their voice or something. And it definitely doesn’t stand up against anything Flanagan’s done for himself on Netflix.
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This film was a sequel done right. It wasn't a rehash or a continuation but instead built on the original and took the audience in a completely different direction.
This entire movie very heavily implied that, during the course of Danny’s life as a physically tangible and living man, he could have psychically lobotomized *ANYONE* with his Shine, and at damn near *ANY TIME HE WISHED.* He only failed here with Rose because of how powerful and experienced she was in psychic combat. But he *ALMOST GOT HER* with one of his mind coffins. Rose was an ancient and unfathomably powerful quasi-immortal woman who used her incredibly powerful Shine to feed on the Shine of others. And he *STILL ALMOST GOT HER.* 🤯
Not only that but Rose the Hat was also jacked up on all the canisters of steam the Knot had too.
I love that Rose didn’t know who Danny was until this moment.
Oh man that was awesome and really showed you how powerful Danny really was that he was able to be hidden from Rose and the True Knot for so long.
@@Ay3shizzlethat’s not because of how powerful he is; it’s because he drowned himself in booze for the majority of his life
@@TheAzerath yeah but still. Once he used his powers again he was still not one to be trifled with.
@@Ay3shizzle I also thought about this. although it is implied and mentioned that Abra is more powerful than Danny, I believe both of them are equally powerful but with different shine. I believe people have underestimated Danny's ability basically due to how he was portrayed in the shining as a helpless scared little boy rather than someone with great potential. I mean, come on. what kind of psychic locks up a lot of powerful scary, soul eating ghosts in his mind? all the fear lurking and just waiting to come out. those fears would have fed the True Knot for eternity.
this movie did a greate job to respectfully to the original story. it could easly go wrong but didnt . really well done.
Either way people will cry about everything
It had respect for Kubrick's vision but not King's. They even fckd about with the casting in this to make it more 'inclusive' but it's just masking greed, basically soulless virtue signaling for profit.
@@1ManNamedDan there are instances where I'd agree, this is certainly not one of them. The casting is fine, what are you even referring to? Being that its a sequel to the Kubrick film, why would they worry about King's vision when he famously hated the Kubrick film? This is perhaps among the best sequels to any film I've ever seen, but trying to be a sequel to basically THE film decades later.......this was really well done. Pretty heavy opinion over such a short clip, don't seem like you've seen the movie or you'd have said at least one specific thing rather than a vague rant.
@@50Nobody50 If you'd read the book you'd know what I'm talking about, the girl was described many times as blond with pig tails and very blue eyes. The same year they made King's Gunslinger a black man and made Sandman's pale goth Death into a black woman. I'm no bigot, I just hate this ploy to create a larger audience for profit by casting characters who are not what the author described, it subverts the vision we had when we supported the work, it's a false for profit inclusivity and not any real social or artistic effort.
@@1ManNamedDan I don't particularly like Stephen King's writing style, so no I didn't read it. Is there some experience the character has that a black girl could not have had? Is her eye color or hair color in any way pertinent to the important parts of the narrative? I am totally on board about changing the original material for no reason, but inclusion is a reason. Its only shitty if it ignores something about the original character, if it doesn't than I hate to tell you it would then sound like you are being prejudicial. I haven't read it so only you know that. Here is an example from my end.....see what you think.
I read all of the Anne Rice vampire novels. The old movie with Cruise and Pitt was fine, but if you were a book purest you would have hated a couple of those character changes. The new tv series comes out last year, or two ago, and the Pitt character is now black. Also, his occupation is now a pimp. Pitt was a plantation and slave owning white man. The experience between these two people during the era of slavery would be so different that you simply can't pretend that character is in any way consistent with the original. That did piss me right off. Not because he was black, but because their different life experiences make them different characters in any situation. This movie doesn't come off to me as an obvious cash grab, its done too well for that, the real "rings of power" level cash grabs while dumping on source material almost universally suck very bad, and this movie didn't suck. Original depictions on how to show psychic power on screen.
This movie would have been massive if they did a better job marketing it. It is really good.
Totally solid film. And no one knows about it. Frustrating.
Right? I saw it when it came out, and thought it was a damned fine sequel. It has to tread this weird line between the original film and novel, but it works.
arent you guys supposed to use "uNDerrATeD"?
Wtf are you on about people know this movie and it was great
@@MarlinWheeler most don't know about it, and it didn't do well. Pretty sure that's what they're talking about.
@@zacharyberridge7239 most do they just didn't understand this movie and that's why it didn't do well that's not the same
He literally talks to Abra telepathically right in front of her, she even replies to it, but she’s still somehow surprised that’s he shines
Weren't those who Shined able to read thoughts of anyone? Maybe she just thought he was doing that so Abra could hear him? Not quite sure myself.
I think it's because for his age he's quite powerful and she really doesn't understand where she is.
Andy learned to hide his power 😉
It's the repression.
Years of alcoholism hid him off the radar and he was exquisitely powerful. It is inexplicable that she didn't find him as a child - but the reason for that is he was hiding from ghosts, his mother had some very minimal shining and so did Jack. That's from the books.
Together they hid him for quite some time without even realizing it. They ran from their life and hid his ability so he wasn't exploring it, and then when he aged he repressed it with alcohol. She's amazed they never detected him but that's because what person suppresses raw power?
Danny might've been an alcoholic and took a turn for the worst, but he maintained a certain line. Shine power you don't use to manipulate people or steal is probably pretty rare, Danny turned to alcoholism because it was a burden, not just for what it is, but for the trauma it caused his family.
This is a very unusual story, a more common one is likely their victims standard routine. You think you win the lottery, then you use your power and uh-oh, the ghouls come for you.
Repressing it took humility and while it was a bad thing, it also was party of Danny's righteousness. With 100 ways to use it, he only used it to lock up ghosts and to comfort his mother.
She couldn't *fathom* this, living a life *without* letting her power define it?
It'd be practically blasphemy among her people.
She's an aged immortal, she's had a lot of time to master this gift - and his surprises were the kind of thing she never would've done. Capturing ghosts? She couldn't even figure out what the hell could be in those coffins. She'd never dream of doing such a thing. Danny warns her too.
"You don't know where you're standing".
And she didn't listen, she thought her power was plenty.
Couple hundred years of hubris and being an apex predator can really make you quite confident but also oblivious. It really was the only negative of her skillset, it's normally all upside.
She chose to be dismissive of him because Abra was her total focus. Both in terms of revenge for her colleagues, and the rare specimen she represented. She'd have time to pay attention to him later.
I've been googling and perusing Rebecca's shows and movies
all day.
the editing, angles, sound and stage sets when she says "enough!" were amazing
Rose the hat was so badass
One of my fave villains ever
Rose The Hat is gorgeous
Is it the Hat or the yoga pants...
@@jesseslack2089 It's whatever Rebecca Ferguson is wearing.
@@snafu21 She's beautiful but she immerses herself in this character so well that I can't be attracted to her. I see an interview with her and all I see is Rose the evil f*cking Hat lol
Have to say didn’t expect much and was blown away by how good this film was…
Thank you for posting the name and summary of the content front and center instead of making me dig through the comments hoping someone recognized it.
Rebecca Ferguson is so epic in this role... on the stairs at the end. He has the axe - he has the high ground (yes - I know 😁) ... but still Rose is much more threatening... and looks hot as hell 😯
They're not special they're starving 8:25-8:37
Wpuld have been cool for him to summon JACK to fight Rose
Jack would have been on the same side as The Hat
Read the book....you'll find out 😉
The book had his father redemption
Titanic 2?
Exactly @@cathytrottier8944
This movie had no business being this good
Well she was right about being the prettiest
When you hire Rebecca Ferguson, that’s a given
She may died but she fucked him up pretty good
I just didn't like that Danny had lost his soul growing up, but he earned it back at the end !
It made sense a little kid got super messed up from what happened at the hotel, not to mention seeing ghost his whole life wouldn't help him adjust to "normal life"
Great movie!! I do prefer the ending in the book though
Yeah budy! Me too! It was heart breaking knowing that at the final scene when the girl says: I still Talk to them!!! So sad!!!
What’s the book ending?
@@carinaadams6797Danny survived
Rose the Hat is a underrated female villain.
I'm still traumitized by the mother and child he left in the apartment.
Rebecca Ferguson has the greatest face in movies today.
I think I'm in love with Rose the hat.
What a great movie excited for Mike Flanagan's take on the Dark tower series. And if it does well he did mention of bringing in some of the characters from Doctor Sleep into it.
"All things serve the beam."
Rebecca Ferguson is indescribably, stunningly lovely.
"You taste like whiiiiiiiiiiskey." All time favorite line delivery
Ferguson has been working her tail off lately. Striking while the iron is hot! I enjoy seeing her in all these different works.
Amazing Movie !!
Rebecca Ferguson should do more antagonistic characters.
Danny Torrance became the better yet terrifying monster for trapping Rose Hat!
On reflection, _Doctor Sleep_ took _The Green Mile_ into account in the mythology of the Shining. A certain child-like man's simplicity kept him off the radar of those like Maggie, but it also left him unready for the darker nature of man when it encroached upon him. Daniel Torrance managed to contain his darkness and the shadows imprinted onto him by the Overlook, but John Coffey started with the horror of the deaths of those girls, followed by the Mile. When he went full-on Sin-Eater... in reverse... and fed Percy the essence of darkness as he understood it, John surpassed what Maggie was capable of. It is no wonder he wished to end; once a Shining One expresses the darkness instead, they become more than tainted. Maggie was a Shining One once, but she preferred to eat and live, embracing depravity. John Coffey managed to fight that back down, for which he is to be commended. Had he not... Certain Dark Men would have had competition. (Please note, I've said as much commenting on the clip "The Death Of Percy Whitmore" posted here by IvusRainbowHead.)
Despite her being a villain. She was my favorite.
When this movie was released sincerely i didn't care...sequels are often far away to maintain the strenght of the original...this is not the case...this is pure Stephen King...more...impossible to not fall in love with Rose The Hat...wow...Hi there...anyway Kubrick' Shining is immortal...
Stephen King's tales have become so formulaic over the years.
The original Salem's Lot tv movie was the only one I ever found frightening.
Read his books then instead of watching movies.
His short stories and novels are fantastic reads and his books cover a wide range of flavours from classic fantasy to sci-fi.
@@Lyonatan I've tried his books. Not scary. Pedestrian. Predictable.
I mean... I'd probably pull down my sleeves once I found myself in a snowed-covered maze.
A jedi vs a witch. Just like old times huh Obi wan 😂
You mean a jedi vs a bene gesserit🤣
And the jedi knows Shinra Tensei
Ah Rebecca. What a star.
I will start by saying this was a great movie, so good I had to rewatch The Shine to appreciate these movies! With all that said, She's smoking hot!
Wasn't sure I wanted to see this... NOW I want to see it. Thank you. ❤🤘
The whole film is amazing
Rebecca Ferguson = bad ass hot af
When your hat is so stupid it becomes part of your name.
mmm, that whole 'spirit' exchange, her 'swallowing' his essence...
is it just me, or...?
I loved this movie 🎉
Actually, a much better film than the original.
Becca and Ewan is not fair. So amazing.
rebecca ferguson is so gorgeous i think if i was Danny I would've fallen in love with her already
Good movie
She is gorgeous
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Love rose in mission impossible
This was the sequal.
All work and no play makes the Bene Gesserit witch out standing in her field. She looks a maze ing.
Juliette has not aged 1 second! HOW? 😮
0:35 Am I high or does that axe look like it's glowing?
Agatha All Along meets The Shining.
Didn't like it at first either, for the obvious reason, but I think it's alright. I'm a Flanagan fan. Oculus, Bly House, and Hill Manor.
The obvious reason of it being associated with a classic.
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!! But the Directors Cut was WAY WAY WAY better. Dont even bother with the other version.
She is so unbelievably fly!
Pain purifies steam. Fear too so you understand.?
I had zero clue this was a sequel to The Shining. Done so well. I’ve watched it over and over again especially for Rose.
It's a good watch Cliff Curtis Aotearoa
all these years i never knew the shinning had a sequel lmao wtf
Your just the bait.
6:52 it’s over Obi-Wan, she has the high ground
Shes a bene gesserit
Yeah well he’s got an army of fucked-up ghosts on reserve 💁🏼
@@TheAzerathon stand by😅
She amazing woman
I can't believe you cut off the scene at the climax...WTF?! Very uncool.
Such a missed opportunity in this movie. Instead of the gunfight, it should habe been the house that kills them all
Is this the shinning 2?
If he had a shotgun vs the axe, game over
All crazy meaningful crap aside, spooky!
I don’t think they marketed this correctly.
Rebecca Ferguson ❤
Did Stephen King literally rip off Monsters Inc?
He ripped phantoms and burnt offerings too
where is Jacob?
Well he did attack her
Battle?
hi there!
Aubra!! ❤
3:19 / 3:21
She needed to die with more pain and needed to take longer
I cant get past the hat. I am not at all liking that she has a hat.
Gonna watch some 4 Non Blondes after this
The sorceress supreme fate series doctor moon knight MJ😮
And he knows the Shinra Tensei 😂
Jenny Lind vs Obi Wan
Thumbs down for ending the vid at the best moment.
Think her acting is absolutely awful in this. Awful.
Poor film, though.
You know I want to point out that was a really nice building. Rose herself was hotter than five gods and more powerful. Considering the way EVERYTHING has turned out as of the day I'm writing this. He should have taken her up on her offer at the top of the stairs. Danny would have been the king of the Kentucky State Fair walking around with Rose hand in hand while she wore that hat. Literally they would have given him the keys to the city of Louisville. You could do worse Danny. Many men have.
Watch out-that’s a weirding woman!
Lilly 😊
If they could've just follow the book, then the movie could've been saved.
We need a closure and this movie didn't deliver.
Luckily, the book did. And we did get to say our goodbye to Danny and Jack.
Rose is so fine
Ewan did really good in his role but Rebecca easily stole the show for me.
She has no clue and that’s cute 😂
F..k yeah!
I can fix her
Maybe the worst "sequel" ever???
Yes. Like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa.
7:46 8:07
Maybe it’s just me but the writing really doesn’t stand up in review. It’s just missing something, it’s like a writer that hasn’t found their voice or something. And it definitely doesn’t stand up against anything Flanagan’s done for himself on Netflix.
It's just you. The writing is superb in this.
Nah the writing is great
The "Shine on Abra" part at the end was the only writing that really made me cringe haha
Wait how is this movie related to the shining? 😵💫
It’s based on the book Doctor Sleep which is the sequel to the shining.
Should have gone for the head
What? Only everyone who follows or read Steven king fool!
I forgot how trashy this movie was