"Here's a day, nay, a month, where the whole world is singing about Jesus and the Messiah and people are inspired to give and feel love toward their neighbor." Christians: "how can we ruin it?"
Thanks to the maker of this channel who is making our venerable Michael Heisers work available to all of us ❤ And thanks to our Abba who gave Michael Heiser his purpose, he fulfilled it well, in my humble earthly opinion. We love you Dr. Heiser, I look forward to meeting you in heaven.
Some do, some don't, some will and some won't. Let others do what they will and do not judge them for it. God is the judge. Personally I don't celebrate any man made festivals and feast days. If you do your research and find their origins then it's up to the individual whether they want to celebrate these things or not. We only have one to answer to and that is our heavenly father.
This is the best discussion and explanation of this issue I have ever heard. Thank you to the owner of the channel for putting this out to us!! Love to hear Michael Heiser’s teachings.
In my 70s Ive run the gambit....raised with a tree and the whole bit.....then went the other direction and was mean to those who kept the day....now I just want to OBEY.....When I stand before HIM/JESUS THE SAVIOUR OF MY LIFE...I want to answer HIM about WHAT DID I DO WITH WHAT HE GAVE ME ?.... I JUST WANT TO OBEY !!!! 💖😉💖
We do so many other things that derived from paganism and still Christmas and Easter come under the magnifying glass every year and the pointing fingers…. Ugh. Just do as Michael H did…. Saturate yourself in scripture, ask questions, dig deeper and let God help you. He has so much mercy and patience. For that I am thankful.
If I’m not celebrating the days in which Yah set aside for us to honor, why would I honor a day man has set aside? And Jeremiah warned against the cutting and decorating of trees- so it is more than a heart issue. I just want to love Yah the way he desires me to love him…otherwise who am I loving more?
Me and mine are not worshiping a tree. Nor are we bring the thing into our house. Very little about the cultural Christmas has anything to do the risen messiah I worship.
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Christ Mass is what we know as Christmas. It’s a celebration of the Eucharist. Celebrating the birth, life and the sacrifice of Christ. The Eucharist begins with the preparation of the gifts and the altar. As the ministers prepare the altar, representatives of the people bring forward the bread and wine that will become the Body and Blood of Christ. The celebrant blesses and praises God for these gifts and places them on the altar, the place of the Eucharistic sacrifice. In addition to the bread and wine, monetary gifts for the support of the Church and the care of the poor may be brought forward. The Prayer over the Offerings concludes this preparation and disposes all for the Eucharistic Prayer.
I have a Christmas tree in my home. I don’t worship it. I also have a Nativity Set, and don’t worship it. I celebrate the birth of my Savior and have these decorations in my home without any issues. Here’s an excellent playlist about holidays and how Christians celebrate them: th-cam.com/play/PLGWjBUpaD6Av8sViOX9qX2GF7UAl873co.html&si=YuxpYIhQsgXHzhlk
1:20:00 "And they saw in these things opportunity to bridge to truth. So they weren't looking for opportunities to take truth to become more pagan.[...] In some cases there were real bridges, real analogies to build on here to get people to believe." You mean, like Paul in Acts 17, when he talked about the unknown god?
The earliest Christians remembered the place of Christ's birth, crucifixion, and resurrection. They passed down these memories so that when Helena (Constantine's mother) came to the holy land in the early 300s, the people showed her where various events of Jesus' life occurred. We commorate His birth regardless of whether other ancient cultures had similar winter festivals. If the ancient believers venerated the place of his birth and honored the event, that's good enough for me.
I appreciate this clarity of the Christmas date. Has anyone considered that the shepherds being with the sheep at night is only when giving birth. Lambs are only born in the spring.
You may know something about the Bible but nothing about sheep. It's very normal to have spring lambs and fall lambs. Ewes can give birth 2 times a year.
@@Buzz-rh4dzwinter in Israel is like winter in south Texas, not Finland. It’s chilly but not frozen. I visited Israel in early January a few years ago. There were a few almond trees already putting on blossoms and the citrus harvest was in full swing. We also saw flocks of sheep and goats in the country. Late fall & winter rains cause these hot climates to green up. Perfect time for flocks to finally get plenty of grazing after a scorching summer.
Thanks for the analysis! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
The Maccabees proclaimed that the rededication of the Temple should be celebrated annually for eight days, beginning on Kislev 25. The word "Hanukkah" means "dedication" in Hebrew.
Jeremiah 10 was what convicted and convinced me to not bring a tree in to my home and decorate it anymore. As fun as it is God hates it. He tells us plainly in His word to not worship Him the same way the pagans worshipped their gods. And decorating trees in their homes is how they worshipped their gods. I'm not saying a christmas tree is used as a form of worship to the true God ( which God would definitely hate as His word says) but I am saying a christmas tree is very similar to the trees pagans used in their worship which God hated.
Never have i considered a christmas tree a form of worship. Who does? Im thinking of expanding the concept to an autumn tree, etc... it's a pretty decoration that makes things cozy, nothing more. Pagans bowed to their gods, so dont bow to God.
@@Wraiths_and_WreckageI don't think people are purposely using a Christmas tree for worship and I said so in my OP. Even though there technically is actual bowing or sitting before the Christmas tree in every home on the 25th in collective celebration as you gather and open gifts, I honestly don't think people have it in mind to worship the tree on purpose.
@@Wraiths_and_Wreckageright ..out of a tree ..that they get from the woods....and decorate. It's a form of worship that God hates. Deuteronomy 12. :4 "you shall not worship the LORD your God in that way". God is letting us know He doesn't want us doing the same things in worship to Him that the idolators did in worship to their gods. If you don't feel conviction for it after seeking and praying then okay. But God's word is clear.
I hope you don't drive an Audi, Mazda, Mercedes, Ram, Toyota, Alpha Romero... Because if you do you're obviously worshipping the god of the symbology behind the brand. Also better not have a wreath on your front door. Or make bouquets of flowers to decorate your home. All these things have pagan roots. If we need to live our lives dodging anything that some pagan group at some point in history did we would be constantly walking on egg shells. For what? To prove that we know the history of all these types of things? Knowing the origin of hanging wreaths won't save someone's soul.
I love the parallels from norse mythology. The tree of life stuff. Pagan beliefs didnt spring out of thin air either. I believe remnants of the truth were preserved, waiting for the calling in of the gentiles to start.
Thank you for this. Ive run into this so many times. Christians who condemn other Christians for putting up a tree or giving gifts. Pretty sure we are to be loving and I think there’s something in the Bible about correcting with love and patience. The importance of fellowship and not causing problems unnecessarily amongst each other. I must be wrong on it because they assure me i am wrong and their mistreatment and disgust towards others putting up a tree is not only justified, it’s their calling. I guess Christian’s who celebrate Christmas are like the pagans and are going to hell. If you disagree, I guess you will be damned. At least, they assure me of this.
We focus on Jesus and celebrate Him. His birth is pretty significant and that tree reminds us of the tree He hung on for you and me- that He was born to accomplish- and He is the light of the world! The “wise men brought gifts” which are significant of His divinity and fragrant sacrifice and that He took our pain without any painkillers. There is so much to all of it old and New Testament. Those grumpy people want to pick a fight - they can write to Santa Claus.
And I agree. I certainly don't worship a tree but sometimes we are unhappy, especially us women, if we don't have just the right tree after goung through the whole tree farm. Is that a form of idolatry? My boys are adult fathers now. I think we struck a good balance with gift giving. We aren't wealthy and don't believe expensive gifts are the thing for Christmas. They had small gifts around the tree and the best gift ( their #1 pick) came from us not from Santa. I've noticed they practice that.
Did you put in effort to go get it, find it, decorate it, did you water it, did you ever sit there and think that's a nice tree... Did you lie to your children about Santa being real, did you tell them Santa knows if they are naughty or nice?
I always thought that the date's proximity to the Winter Solstice which celebrates the birth of the sun. Our Creator created the sun, moon, and stars for times and seasons. Just because pagans worship the sun doesn't mean a Christian can worship the Creator who gives meaning to the universe.
I used to think that way too. The only real problem with that is we are told not to worship the host of heaven, or to worship in the way the heathen do. The birth of the sun can be traced back to the Tower story.
@charlesprimbs5270 right but I'm saying that it's in the interpretation and action. There is natural evidence that the days get longer after the darkest day of the year. GOD made it that way, and He already knew that Christmas would be celebrated around this time of year. The pagans don't know GOD,so they worship the creatures rather than the Creator.
For me and my household, It's not about this tradition of man or the date... it's the perpetuation of magic, debt, coveting materialism, lying to children and the minimalisation of Christ. We don't participate because it's a corrupt "hold-day". It's not about Christ no m atter how you paint it. I guarantee none of those traditions are celebrated in the Kingdom. How can you preach against it all year long, then comprise on this unholy tradition of men? It's not a salvation issue but it teaches ungodly traditions.
I hear about this idea in Christianity a lot. Not to put words in your mouth, but I can't help but draw connections to similar ideas like the phrase "Do as thou wilt" and "Know thyself". I could go into it, but I feel that is sufficient. In any case, we are not told to determine what is right for ourselves, but to obey. This is a slippery slope, although the loss of ones culture seems even more daunting.
The one thing about Christmas that I believe should be considered by all Christians is children.. Think about how you felt about thought about Christmas when you were a child.. If you were like me, you were filled with wonder and excitement. You could barely stand counting down the days.. not for christ nor a celebration of his birthday, but for gifts and food and family.. Sitting and staring at the tree filled with lights and ornaments.. Kneeling in front of it daily... laying under it staring up it's skirt at all the beautiful colors and flashing lights.. Almost worshipping it, huh? Thar right there is the worry.. was there any pagan in your thoughts? No.. but for most, Jesus wasn't front and center either, if you thought much about him at all... That's how it was for me. My parents weren't religious. They believed in God, and they told us what the holiday was about, but there wasn't much stress on importance.. and I'm not sure they knew any better. Christmas also spoils children and often the holiday is filled with attitude from tired kids being drug to and fro in the maylay of shopping and appointments. We should all stand against the commercialization of the holiday and fight to take it down 50 notches and back to one special gift for each person in your family, including special close friends, with emphasis on giving gifts to those less fortunate who are in need, as Yeshua gave to those in need, bringing him back front and center... and throw out Santa for the real Saint Nicholas who gave gifts to those less fortunate, teaching that the caring for of those less fortunate and showing Yeshua's love for and upon them in remembrance of him is what the holiday should truly be about.
Yeah when I found out my Parents lied about Santa I said what else have you lied about and I stopped believing in God for many years after that and got into a life of sin... Thankfully God grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and brought me back... We are told to worship in spirit and truth and Christmas is a lie 🤔
We are told to worship in spirit and truth... Yet you admit Christmas is a lie as he was born around September... Show me where in scripture we are told to worship Christmas and how and when Messiah was born and I'll celebrate it with you all...
Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
im pretty sure he skipped this part in the video. The original celebration of Christmas is an older celebration that came from mesopotamia. it is infact a pagan Saturnalia
I just wonder if anyone screaming pagan is wearing a wedding band, pagan, pants, pagan, earrings and make-up, pagan and so on…….. it’s all a mishandling of scripture to point fingers at people less holy than them. God have mercy on us all.
The old testament forbids bringing in the tree inside your house and putting jewels and trinkets on it. It is obviously about the mid winter Christmas/Saturnalia celebration the old testament talks about.
@@suzannakoizumi8605 Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
@@suzannakoizumi8605I think the verses that will be ‘used’ are found in Jeremiah chapter 10 however, these verses are about carving an idol and worshiping it.
@@dlillianb1368 wrong. parts of it is of the winter celebration when they put jewels on the tree. the celebration predates Christmas for thousands of years. its the same pagan holiday
"Here's a day, nay, a month, where the whole world is singing about Jesus and the Messiah and people are inspired to give and feel love toward their neighbor."
Christians: "how can we ruin it?"
We are told to worship in spirit and truth... Yet we know Christmas is a lie 🤔... Who is the father of lies according to scripture?
Thanks to the maker of this channel who is making our venerable Michael Heisers work available to all of us ❤
And thanks to our Abba who gave Michael Heiser his purpose, he fulfilled it well, in my humble earthly opinion. We love you Dr. Heiser, I look forward to meeting you in heaven.
"Let no one judge you...regarding a festival, new moon or sabbath." Colossians 2:16
Celebrate away my friend, ita not a salvation issue.
Some do, some don't, some will and some won't. Let others do what they will and do not judge them for it. God is the judge. Personally I don't celebrate any man made festivals and feast days. If you do your research and find their origins then it's up to the individual whether they want to celebrate these things or not. We only have one to answer to and that is our heavenly father.
@@SonOfHutch hahah. so many people going to hell
this verse speaks of hebrew festivals. not pagan ones.
Pffft... Go back and read 2 Peter 3:16-18
This is the best discussion and explanation of this issue I have ever heard. Thank you to the owner of the channel for putting this out to us!! Love to hear Michael Heiser’s teachings.
In my 70s Ive run the gambit....raised with a tree and the whole bit.....then went the other direction and was mean to those who kept the day....now I just want to OBEY.....When I stand before HIM/JESUS THE SAVIOUR OF MY LIFE...I want to answer HIM about
WHAT DID I DO WITH WHAT HE GAVE ME ?....
I JUST WANT TO OBEY !!!!
💖😉💖
Well great news God never commanded us to do anything in regards to this season.
We do so many other things that derived from paganism and still Christmas and Easter come under the magnifying glass every year and the pointing fingers…. Ugh. Just do as Michael H did…. Saturate yourself in scripture, ask questions, dig deeper and let God help you. He has so much mercy and patience. For that I am thankful.
If I’m not celebrating the days in which Yah set aside for us to honor, why would I honor a day man has set aside?
And Jeremiah warned against the cutting and decorating of trees- so it is more than a heart issue. I just want to love Yah the way he desires me to love him…otherwise who am I loving more?
Me and mine are not worshiping a tree. Nor are we bring the thing into our house. Very little about the cultural Christmas has anything to do the risen messiah I worship.
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Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Christ Mass is what we know as Christmas. It’s a celebration of the Eucharist. Celebrating the birth, life and the sacrifice of Christ. The Eucharist begins with the preparation of the gifts and the altar. As the ministers prepare the altar, representatives of the people bring forward the bread and wine that will become the Body and Blood of Christ. The celebrant blesses and praises God for these gifts and places them on the altar, the place of the Eucharistic sacrifice. In addition to the bread and wine, monetary gifts for the support of the Church and the care of the poor may be brought forward. The Prayer over the Offerings concludes this preparation and disposes all for the Eucharistic Prayer.
Okay 😂
I have a Christmas tree in my home. I don’t worship it. I also have a Nativity Set, and don’t worship it. I celebrate the birth of my Savior and have these decorations in my home without any issues. Here’s an excellent playlist about holidays and how Christians celebrate them:
th-cam.com/play/PLGWjBUpaD6Av8sViOX9qX2GF7UAl873co.html&si=YuxpYIhQsgXHzhlk
1:20:00 "And they saw in these things opportunity to bridge to truth. So they weren't looking for opportunities to take truth to become more pagan.[...] In some cases there were real bridges, real analogies to build on here to get people to believe."
You mean, like Paul in Acts 17, when he talked about the unknown god?
The earliest Christians remembered the place of Christ's birth, crucifixion, and resurrection. They passed down these memories so that when Helena (Constantine's mother) came to the holy land in the early 300s, the people showed her where various events of Jesus' life occurred. We commorate His birth regardless of whether other ancient cultures had similar winter festivals. If the ancient believers venerated the place of his birth and honored the event, that's good enough for me.
they were celebrating Saturnalia. and so are you good enough pagan
Thank you for the information on Helena. 😊
Christ knows our heart.
I appreciate this clarity of the Christmas date. Has anyone considered that the shepherds being with the sheep at night is only when giving birth. Lambs are only born in the spring.
You may know something about the Bible but nothing about sheep. It's very normal to have spring lambs and fall lambs. Ewes can give birth 2 times a year.
Regardless, shepherds left the fields in winter.
@@Buzz-rh4dzwinter in Israel is like winter in south Texas, not Finland. It’s chilly but not frozen. I visited Israel in early January a few years ago. There were a few almond trees already putting on blossoms and the citrus harvest was in full swing. We also saw flocks of sheep and goats in the country. Late fall & winter rains cause these hot climates to green up. Perfect time for flocks to finally get plenty of grazing after a scorching summer.
@@Buzz-rh4dz show me how little you know about the local climate
Thanks for the analysis! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
The Maccabees proclaimed that the rededication of the Temple should be celebrated annually for eight days, beginning on Kislev 25. The word "Hanukkah" means "dedication" in Hebrew.
Jeremiah 10 was what convicted and convinced me to not bring a tree in to my home and decorate it anymore. As fun as it is God hates it. He tells us plainly in His word to not worship Him the same way the pagans worshipped their gods. And decorating trees in their homes is how they worshipped their gods. I'm not saying a christmas tree is used as a form of worship to the true God ( which God would definitely hate as His word says) but I am saying a christmas tree is very similar to the trees pagans used in their worship which God hated.
Never have i considered a christmas tree a form of worship. Who does? Im thinking of expanding the concept to an autumn tree, etc... it's a pretty decoration that makes things cozy, nothing more. Pagans bowed to their gods, so dont bow to God.
And Jeremiah 10 is about making an actual idol.
@@Wraiths_and_WreckageI don't think people are purposely using a Christmas tree for worship and I said so in my OP. Even though there technically is actual bowing or sitting before the Christmas tree in every home on the 25th in collective celebration as you gather and open gifts, I honestly don't think people have it in mind to worship the tree on purpose.
@@Wraiths_and_Wreckageright ..out of a tree ..that they get from the woods....and decorate. It's a form of worship that God hates. Deuteronomy 12. :4 "you shall not worship the LORD your God in that way". God is letting us know He doesn't want us doing the same things in worship to Him that the idolators did in worship to their gods. If you don't feel conviction for it after seeking and praying then okay. But God's word is clear.
I hope you don't drive an Audi, Mazda, Mercedes, Ram, Toyota, Alpha Romero... Because if you do you're obviously worshipping the god of the symbology behind the brand. Also better not have a wreath on your front door. Or make bouquets of flowers to decorate your home. All these things have pagan roots. If we need to live our lives dodging anything that some pagan group at some point in history did we would be constantly walking on egg shells. For what? To prove that we know the history of all these types of things? Knowing the origin of hanging wreaths won't save someone's soul.
I love the parallels from norse mythology. The tree of life stuff. Pagan beliefs didnt spring out of thin air either. I believe remnants of the truth were preserved, waiting for the calling in of the gentiles to start.
Excellent observation.
Thank you for this. Ive run into this so many times. Christians who condemn other Christians for putting up a tree or giving gifts. Pretty sure we are to be loving and I think there’s something in the Bible about correcting with love and patience. The importance of fellowship and not causing problems unnecessarily amongst each other. I must be wrong on it because they assure me i am wrong and their mistreatment and disgust towards others putting up a tree is not only justified, it’s their calling. I guess Christian’s who celebrate Christmas are like the pagans and are going to hell. If you disagree, I guess you will be damned. At least, they assure me of this.
We focus on Jesus and celebrate Him. His birth is pretty significant and that tree reminds us of the tree He hung on for you and me- that He was born to accomplish- and He is the light of the world! The “wise men brought gifts” which are significant of His divinity and fragrant sacrifice and that He took our pain without any painkillers. There is so much to all of it old and New Testament. Those grumpy people want to pick a fight - they can write to Santa Claus.
@ 😁 bless you! Merry Christmas!
"Let no one judge you...regarding a festival, new moon or sabbath." Colossians 2:16
@@TommyStahr this verse speaks of hebrew festivals. not pagan ones.
@@TommyStahr bro has gay videos on his profile. begone you unclean antikrist spirit.
And I agree. I certainly don't worship a tree but sometimes we are unhappy, especially us women, if we don't have just the right tree after goung through the whole tree farm. Is that a form of idolatry? My boys are adult fathers now. I think we struck a good balance with gift giving. We aren't wealthy and don't believe expensive gifts are the thing for Christmas. They had small gifts around the tree and the best gift ( their #1 pick) came from us not from Santa. I've noticed they practice that.
Did you put in effort to go get it, find it, decorate it, did you water it, did you ever sit there and think that's a nice tree... Did you lie to your children about Santa being real, did you tell them Santa knows if they are naughty or nice?
I always thought that the date's proximity to the Winter Solstice which celebrates the birth of the sun. Our Creator created the sun, moon, and stars for times and seasons. Just because pagans worship the sun doesn't mean a Christian can worship the Creator who gives meaning to the universe.
its about birth of Lucifer
I used to think that way too. The only real problem with that is we are told not to worship the host of heaven, or to worship in the way the heathen do.
The birth of the sun can be traced back to the Tower story.
@charlesprimbs5270 right but I'm saying that it's in the interpretation and action. There is natural evidence that the days get longer after the darkest day of the year. GOD made it that way, and He already knew that Christmas would be celebrated around this time of year. The pagans don't know GOD,so they worship the creatures rather than the Creator.
For me and my household, It's not about this tradition of man or the date... it's the perpetuation of magic, debt, coveting materialism, lying to children and the minimalisation of Christ. We don't participate because it's a corrupt "hold-day". It's not about Christ no m atter how you paint it. I guarantee none of those traditions are celebrated in the Kingdom. How can you preach against it all year long, then comprise on this unholy tradition of men? It's not a salvation issue but it teaches ungodly traditions.
Its what you make it and your motives
I hear about this idea in Christianity a lot.
Not to put words in your mouth, but I can't help but draw connections to similar ideas like the phrase "Do as thou wilt" and "Know thyself". I could go into it, but I feel that is sufficient.
In any case, we are not told to determine what is right for ourselves, but to obey.
This is a slippery slope, although the loss of ones culture seems even more daunting.
The bible literally says there are matters of conscience. It bugs you, dont so it. But dont strut like youre holier because of it.
The one thing about Christmas that I believe should be considered by all Christians is children..
Think about how you felt about thought about Christmas when you were a child..
If you were like me, you were filled with wonder and excitement. You could barely stand counting down the days.. not for christ nor a celebration of his birthday, but for gifts and food and family..
Sitting and staring at the tree filled with lights and ornaments..
Kneeling in front of it daily... laying under it staring up it's skirt at all the beautiful colors and flashing lights..
Almost worshipping it, huh?
Thar right there is the worry.. was there any pagan in your thoughts? No.. but for most, Jesus wasn't front and center either, if you thought much about him at all...
That's how it was for me. My parents weren't religious. They believed in God, and they told us what the holiday was about, but there wasn't much stress on importance.. and I'm not sure they knew any better.
Christmas also spoils children and often the holiday is filled with attitude from tired kids being drug to and fro in the maylay of shopping and appointments.
We should all stand against the commercialization of the holiday and fight to take it down 50 notches and back to one special gift for each person in your family, including special close friends, with emphasis on giving gifts to those less fortunate who are in need, as Yeshua gave to those in need, bringing him back front and center... and throw out Santa for the real Saint Nicholas who gave gifts to those less fortunate, teaching that the caring for of those less fortunate and showing Yeshua's love for and upon them in remembrance of him is what the holiday should truly be about.
Yeah when I found out my Parents lied about Santa I said what else have you lied about and I stopped believing in God for many years after that and got into a life of sin... Thankfully God grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and brought me back... We are told to worship in spirit and truth and Christmas is a lie 🤔
We are told to worship in spirit and truth... Yet you admit Christmas is a lie as he was born around September... Show me where in scripture we are told to worship Christmas and how and when Messiah was born and I'll celebrate it with you all...
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why do you think the site is hiding all the comments? they are helping Heiser spread false doctrines
Christmas is a heathen practice that we are told to stay away from read Jeramiah 10
Yes it's pagen
Jeremiah 10:1-5
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
im pretty sure he skipped this part in the video. The original celebration of Christmas is an older celebration that came from mesopotamia. it is infact a pagan Saturnalia
Guess you didn't pay attention.
@@suzannakoizumi8605 I didnt watch it i just skipped parts of it fast. Im not watching gatekeepers whole videos.
I just wonder if anyone screaming pagan is wearing a wedding band, pagan, pants, pagan, earrings and make-up, pagan and so on…….. it’s all a mishandling of scripture to point fingers at people less holy than them. God have mercy on us all.
The old testament forbids bringing in the tree inside your house and putting jewels and trinkets on it. It is obviously about the mid winter Christmas/Saturnalia celebration the old testament talks about.
What verses?
@@suzannakoizumi8605 Jeremiah 10:1-5
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
@@suzannakoizumi8605I think the verses that will be ‘used’ are found in Jeremiah chapter 10 however, these verses are about carving an idol and worshiping it.
@@suzannakoizumi8605 its in the other comment. site wont let me post it here
@@dlillianb1368 wrong. parts of it is of the winter celebration when they put jewels on the tree. the celebration predates Christmas for thousands of years. its the same pagan holiday
Pro_16:25 There is a way that seems right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.