How To Install Roof Tiles in South Florida | Perkins Roofing Corp.
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- Watch Team Perkins Roofing install a Verea Clay "S" Tile Roof in Bal Harbour (near Miami Beach) in South Florida.
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Awesome and informative! Good job!
Thank you, happy to be of assistance if/when you need roofing done in Florida.
when is raining in my new roof in some parts of my house the water goes underneath of the tiles my question is it's normal for a concrete tiles or they didn't do a good job
You should not be seeing rain draining through the eaves in a flow, but it will drip or vent out from the eave closure holes. Concrete tiles absorb about 10x more moisture than clay tiles, so this moisture that absorbs into the tiles has to go somewhere. It will vent out from underneath or it will evaporate back out of the tiles. It should not really be flowing underneath the tiles though.
@perkinsroofingcorp I try to tell to the contractor but he said is normal but now I know thanks very much
@@dav24x Thank you - let me know we can be of any assitance.
Excellent video. Quite informative. We are currently building our home in Jamaica and our community requires the use of a specific clay tile...I am trying to learn as much as I can about it before the installation happens. I've heard so many bad things about clay tiles...I have no clue about the process...but we are hoping our roofer does an excellent job.
Thank you, clay tiles are great when installed correctly. Jamaica, being in the island should have a code close to the Miami-Dade HVHZ code. The unfortunate thing with clay tiles is during tropical storms / hurricanes, they may break easily - just make sure trees are not too close to the house and you should be okay.
Full of knowledge, this helped. Thank you!
Thank you, please let me know if we can be of any assistance!
Great job! Looks high quality job! But working in the roof looks dangerous! Don't you guys ever wear safety harnesses for protection against falls? Would OSHA stop you if they see you guys working on the without any PPE? Anyway, great job and stay safe!!
Yes, we wear harnesses when necessary. This was a 3/12 roof, one story and we had a full time Project Manager with OSHA certification on-site as safety manager. Check out our shingle roof videos if you want to see some of our work with PPE on at the edge of a three story townhouse, or our videos up on Fisher Island.
Great video and very detailed. Question, why are the ridge caps foamed instead of nailed? Which would be better for wind mitigation?
Thank you! Florida Building Code calls for them to be foamed, only the rake tiles are nailed on and mortared. Pull likely depends on the size and quality of the fastener. ICP makes some good foam though.
Nice video brother🎉
Thank you!
i have a similar roof in cape coral. Ian took off about 60 hip caps I'm thinking that 20 years later the glue was not holding. Your job really depends on the glue. How long does it last?
There is no telling, it depends on what adhesive was used, who installed it (did they make the paddy size large enough? Did the roof pass updated wind load calculations via an engineer who correctly performed a tile uplift test?)
There are two brands of tile adhesive in South Florida. ICP (made by 3M) and Tile Bond. ICP is much better and is a 2-part adhesive vs. the 1-part Tile Bond.
In order to pass final inspection on a new tile roof, the roof must pass an engineer's tile uplift test where they check the strength of the tiles. First off, there are many scam engineers out there who do the test and pass it for roofers even though it doesn't meet code. Second, the wind uplift requirements change every coupe of years, so a roof put on in 2022 has much stricter wind uplift than a roof put on in 2020 as they expanded uplift zones etc. pretty recently.
If you need help, let us know. We are working in Cape Coral - my parents actually live there.
@@perkinsroofingcorp. What means 2 part adhesive vs 1 part adhesive, what is the difference, do they cost about the same per gal/lb ?
@@anonymousbyproxy8250 We use ICP Polyset AH 160 (3M is the parent company), which is a 2 part adhesive vs. Tile Bond (and others), which are one part adhesives. The Polyset is more expensive, but also gets better wind pressures and from our experience is a superior product.
If doing a leak repair in a valley with terra-cotta,
there’s metal underneath..What would you recommend to repair? Can you put stormguard and then the metal back on top?
You need to pull the metal back and change the plywood if the wood is bad. Hard for most people to do unless you have a lot of construction experience. If the metal and wood is in fine shape and the leak is through the fasteners, then remove the fasteners, re-fasten and cover over with @PolyglassUSA SA P... make sure you apply heat and pressure on any SA roll.
Thx bro
@@fhboehm9236 No problem, always happy to help!
Do you put the metal back over the poly glass or do you put the poly glass in the metal?
*over the metal..i meant to say
Just use the traditonal clay premade birdstops
They cost more, it's an option though. We have a barrel tile project getting started this week with them.
very good job,very hot day!
Thank you! Yes, those South Florida summers!
Great video
Thank you, we work hard to keep our customers informed in regards to our work quality and optional roofing upgrades that can prolong the life of the roof.
I'm considering tile, you mentioned a 50 year life but the underlayment is only 30. My question is, why would the underlayment degrade if terracotta doesn't get hot like concrete or asphalt?
The underlayment will still degrade over time as no tile is 100% waterproof. These tiles are Grade 1, the highest rating for moisture absorption, but they will still allow a percentile of moisture to absorb through the tiles and into the paper. The higher grade the tiles the better this will protect the underlayment.
The maximum underlayment warranty I have seen is a material only warranty from CT Flintlastic that gets up to 50 years, but that is not a workmanship and material warranty like Polyglass provides and also is a little more expensive for that underlayment (which is a granulated cap sheet).
The companies of course when providing a warranty will only provide warranties for products they KNOW 100% will last that long, so the 30 year warranty only marks the beginning of the failure rate. The roof could still last 30-50 years, however that will depend on owner maintenance (how well the roof is maintained over time - because even when you get a new roof, you still have to maintain it - just like buying a new car) and additionally on pest control (the #1 cause of leaks in South Florida are termites!!!)
@@TheTimkanak what is the maintenance for a roof. Obviously to keep it clean but what else...
What is you uplift rating on your tile ?
Not sure, this roof was done 2 years ago now... depends on roof wind zone and paddy size for ICP adhesives. These are the Verea Spanish "S" though.
Amazing video on how to install roof tiles in south florida! spectacular workmanship and outstanding attention to detail.
We appreciate the positive feedback on our roof tile install in the Bal Harbour / Miami Beach area, quality is very important when installing roof tiles to make sure they are all in a straight line and cuts are made nicely in the tiles.
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Good job, can I ask please why don't you use nails?
Many reasons, but here are two.
1. This house is Miami-Dade and you have to use foam at that slope, it's a higher code than regular Florida Building Code.
2. Foam is better, less holes in a roof = better, especially with concrete tiles which absorb a lot more moisture than these clay tiles and due to the Florida rains need cleaned all the time. The more movement on the roof from cleaners, etc. on the roof, the more likely the nails wiggle, move and expand the hole in the roof for water to run into. Additionally the moisture absorption is likely to crack out the tiles around the nail holes when they are fastened in rather than adhered.
@@perkinsroofingcorp thank you for your reply and explanation. I am in the Northeast and have a tile roof looks great but I don't think it's the right climate. I just did a repair, used copper and aluminum nails.
Ok 👍 👍
Thank you for watching!
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A cuánto marcan las líneas
Depende del mosaico, cada mosaico tiene una longitud diferente, por lo que usa un mosaico como guía para marcar las líneas.
It depends on the tile, each tile has a different length, so you use one tile as a guide to mark the lines.
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Sir I need work for roof tile
Hey! please give us a call at 305-MIA-ROOF
Nice video. But “we” should refer to your guys. No offense but you’re not doing anything but staying clean and looking pretty for the camera. 😂
Looking pretty is hard work. 🤣
MEXICANS doing all the work - right ?
Managing the project and schedule, making a drone video and a presentation on the roof install is also work. He is doing something 😂
No need to be a jerk-just appreciate the info or move on.
Someone has to promote the work being done otherwise I would have never came across these awesome people
How did you make part of that video upthere like if you were flying on a helicopter?
It takes practice walking on a tile roof, but after a while you get comfortable on the roof and can multi-task.
After installing the tile on the eave closure metal, I’m using copper metal, do you seal the space between the copper and the tile or leave it as is. I’m concerned about insects getting in under the tile if I don’t use joint and termination sealant to cover the space between the tile and the copper edge?
If you have copper drip edge, generally you have mortar or clay eave closures. I have never seen copper eave closure metal before and I'm sure it would have to be custom made if you do have copper eave closure metal. Most eave closure metals are made in painted galvanized steel and or aluminum. If either of these metals are touching a copper drip edge, it will cause electrolysis and the copper drip metal will rust out.
I’m using Santa Fe ceramic tile and purchased the copper eaves enclosure specifically for this tile profile and they fit perfectly.
What if anything do you use to seal the space between the eave closure and the curved part of the tile?
Thank so much for replying to my questions 😆😉😎
@@israelrosenzweig7338 Nothing, just leave it be. The eave closure has holes on it anyway for moisture to get out.
Thanks for the feedback 😅😎
Hello Tim, my name is Alejandro Ondarza. I own a small roofing company, and I am looking for a good tile installation crew. The crew in this video seems to do very good work. Athough it may seem like a strange request, I would like to ask you if you would mind providing their contact information.
Thank you.
They are the best, sorry they are full time with us.
What happens if the inspector doesn't pass say one or two areas in regards to the tiles being glued down correctly ? I ask because im a roofer in arizona and everything here is just nailed.
We have to re-do those tiles. We need an engineer's certified uplift inspection on all tiles, they test the areas and any bad areas we re-do before we call for final inspection. We also have to do an in-progress inspection on tiles for them to see the install of about 1-2 squares before we can continue.
@Perkins Roofing Corp. thanks for responding i like to learn other states codes and methods of installation and i like watching your video's 👍🏻
@@JB-ej8zy Thank you! I appreciate the positive feedback!
When it rains hard in the middle of the night do you sleep like a baby?
You know it!
Great video. What kind of foam and underlayment do you use? I am concerned
that the product will fall off.
between plywood and underlayment.
Thank you!
Thank you Tom!
Foam: Polyset AH-160
Underlayment (Primary): Polyglass TU Plus (80 mil)... white SA asphaltic
Underlayment (Secondary): Polyglass MTS Plus (60 mil)... green SA asphaltic
The underlayments when properly installed are backnailed at the overlap. The SA has a superior uplift to mechanically fastened #30 or synthetics even when installed directly to the deck. It's great technology.
Please let me know if we can be any assistance in the greater South Florida area for anything roofing or waterproofing!
We're in the Daytona Beach area. Is it BETTER to use the foam for adhesion vs nailing? I've not seen this before. Many installers are still using nails..
Much better, contractors will use fasteners because they are significantly less expensive... generally a good rule of thumb is the less holes in your roofing membrane, the better.
well done! How do you use clay tile on a round roof, are the tiles still overlapping?
Yes, the tiles overlap just like concrete tiles on a roof.
Very impressive skilled installation. What is the price per square foot for this type of tile installed?
This can depend on the slope, height and cuts, but generally around $10.50 - $11.50 per SF for concrete tiles and $2-$3 more for the clay tiles, depending on the exact tile and color.
Thank for the Miami Dade code info. If you have anymore Miami Dade tutorials let me know! I'll watch
No problem, check out most of my other videos. I have many where I break down HVHZ vs. Florida Building Code and show how we install different types of roofing systems here.
Do you do roofing in California? I couldn't find anyone(roofers) knows what they doing.
Unfortunately no, we are only in Florida as of now. We are expanding, but it will likely be a few years until we expand out of the SE.
My Mexicano brother’s Are experts at their craft.
Yes, they are the best!
It would be nice to see how you cut the tiles and tips and tricks from the installers sometime. You may have done it already 😊
Thanks for sharing knowledge
There are a few videos that specifically show the tile cuts, I believe in the Fisher Island series.
a very different way of laying roof tiles compared to here in Belgium LOL is this way of laying tiles typical for dry climates such as florida? or is this method also used in wetter climates? and how do you apply this method if you have a very steep roof? nice video
Thank you, Florida is a very wet climate, especially in south Florida. We are basically in the Caribbean and this roof is only across the street from the Atlantic Ocean. We get hit with many hurricanes, so we have the most stringent building code in the United States in South Florida. This is the method for all of Florida though, but in other parts of the country they can nail tiles on rather than using foam. I've even heard of people in other parts of the country loose laying them haha.
On a steeper roof (more than 6/12) we would use 1x2 battens to nail the tiles in. Most residential roofs in South Florida are 3/12 - 5/12 however.
@@perkinsroofingcorp oops my mistake. I thought it was a dry climate there because I didn't see a gutter.
@@bandeano3870 Yes, we take the gutters down and replace or re-install once the tiles are completed.
Was interested to see no metal in the valleys. It just runs on the paper I guess?
No, the metal runs on top of the #30 under the TU Plus. Metals should not be installed directly on top of the primary water barrier, it's FL Bldg code.
Tim, there is a video where in Miami a HUGE colony of bats got established under the S-tile (or barrel tile ?) roof. Was it because the holes in the eaves were too large ?
Haha, I saw that video. That's a double roll tile. Those tiles were mortar set (like in our Fisher Island project), which means the eaves were likely mortared in, rather than installed with clay or metal. They don't show in the video. It's possible since they were custom installed with mortar, either the mortar cracked out in areas and the bats got in - or the weep holes were formed to large by the tile installer. Many possibilities, or there were broken tiles the bats found shelter in - hard to say.
Thank you for such an instructional video. Could you explain the difference to me between a foam like Tile Bond vs. Polyfoam? Is one single component and the other a two part foam? Which one is best to use? Thank you!!!
The both come in smaller one-part canisters, but it's more expensive per SF to install that way. Good for repairs. Polyfoam gets a getter pull than Tile Bond from our experience, though Tile Bond is slightly cheaper. We use Polyfoam since it's better, even though it is more expensive.
Is there anything that can be done to keep the titles from turning black?
Clay tiles absorb less water, so this is less likely to happen. Wet and Forget a couple times a year is your best bet, but you have to go up on the roof to spray it on - or call us and we will do it for you and replace any tiles that get broken walking on the roof.
Excellent video and workmanship. Is this method as good as using hot tar method?
Thank you! Hot tar was used for the paper back in the day, but not the tile install.
Who is ordering the tiles, you or the client per your specifications ?
We order the tiles and they are included within our pricing. If the client desires and upgraded clay tile or premium color, we get this priced out and make the order.
I had an engineer client about two years ago tell me he wanted to order the tiles himself to save money, but I told him to let me see what I could do and my pricing was significantly cheaper even with my pass-through costs added in because I have great relationships with my distributors, we are the number one purchaser through our preferred distributor in Miami, which means we are likely to get the best pricing.
from which material is water barrier is made of and what we call it ?
It is asphaltic, Polyglass TU Plus
First thing you said that is incorrect was the “weep holes” those are meant for airflow. If you top flash your tile roof correctly you will never have water under your tile.
Concrete and clay absorb moisture. Teaching basics for home owners, it's easier to understand the point is to vent out moisture.
We would save our cut excess pieces for the hips.
I have tile roof here in Venice Fl, and the valleys spill out onto another roof slope (same slope, but different direction). They didn't allow for that valley water to channel out onto the next slope, and it goes under the sloped tiles and collect at the bird stops and rotted the roof out. I will check your other vids to see if you show how to do that correctly, but if not, it would be nice if you can show how to do that. Thanks.
Sounds like an architectural issue, however what we do in these areas is put a double barrier and if it's not visible we put a cap sheet. Feel free to email us a photos and we will see if we can help out. support@perkinsroofing.net.
I found the name of what is missing, 'skirt flashing'. As the roof returns back under the valley, the skirt flashing should spill the rain onto the top of the tile on the return. It is missing. Thanks
It's all easy till someone mess up the installation then you'll have to start over n over till you get it done
What are the measurements to mark the lines of that tile?
You use the actual tiles as a guide for striking the lines.
What's the mitigation or engineering controls for all the clay dust, especially when you have a newly painted white house at the adjoining property. Your installers did a fantastic job!
There are none. If the installers tried to cut all of the tiles on the ground in a contained environment the project would take triple the time and would then cost at least double the money.
Watching from kenya..,you have very hard working guys..subscribed..,
Thanks Collins, yes - we are lucky to have an amazing team. Thank you for subscribing, let us know if you have any properties in Florida and we will be happy to help out.
In the valleys the water goes underneath the tiles?
Moreso in between the tiles. If the valleys are cut well the membrane won't be exposed in a closed valley system.
Other country, other methods, tile roofing with foam ^^ indeed final result is ok
Excellent Video, learned a lot, thanks so much for sharing.
You're very welcome! Our first goal is always to educate, especially because our South Florida market is generally the industry leader and trend setter for the rest of Florida first, then the rest of the storm impacted coastal areas.
I think you guys did our roof after ian in flordia
How much a job like this cost ?
Depends on exact house size and which bells and whistles, but it can run between $60-$80 k or so
My valley tiles in Central CA are crap becasue of all the loose unattaches tile cuts. they wander on their own and trap debris. A miserable fail and leaves get stuck and never wash out, the then water spreads beyond the valley metal. It was done in 92, may last another 20, but lots of install errors. They never used mortar. A rolled terra cotta rubber over the ridges and under the barrels which were never nailed or foamed.
Yeah, many installers tend to skip striking lines, because it's time consuming - but you get a much cleaner install that way. A lot of bad roofing is out there haha. 1992 - 2023 is a good roof though, can't complain too much. Here in South Florida the rain, wind and sun don't let roofs last past 25-30 years.
When you see an American on the roof, you know the customer overpaid for their roof 🤑🤑🤑🤑 that customer probably over paid by $30k😂
We have a very diverse team at Perkins Roofing.
HOW LONG UNDERLAYMENT CAN STAY EXPOSED TO ELEMENTS WITHOUT being covered by tiles ?!?
I am asking that because after mounting the plywood on the roof it may be a long delay till the plumber is cutting the vents and plywood in my opinion should be covered ASAP after mounting and not left exposed to elements.
It looks like only half of the tile is being foamed. How does that lock the entire tile into place so it doesn't lift with high winds?
All of the tiles are being foamed in.
so do these hard tiles fly up and away with the annual hurricanes since you do not nail Foam is stronger?. What keeps the bats from nesting in all the spaces under rake tiles?
Yes, foam has a higher pull rating than fasteners. The rakes should be cemented in to avoid anything from nesting in there. The rake tiles are still fastened.
Do u still use PolyGlass brand ? Di u ever use 30 lb tar paper with hot mopping ? How do they compare with each other ?
#30 lb paper is terrible. Hot mop is old school. SA gets better grab.
Thanks. I expect I will need a roof in the next couple of years; original roof is now 16 yrs old. I found this and the parts of a roof very informative, I was hoping you'd cover the materials of the roof installation also. Do you have that in another video?
Yes, I cover materials more in depth in some of my other videos.
Tiles: Concrete vs. Clay Roof Tiles and the Boynton project... also in 7 ways roofing contractors cut ocrners
Metal: I have a couple videos where I discuss... metal vs. tile vs. shingle
Shingles: I discuss in many videos
Flats: I discuss in a few different flat roof specific videos
Let me know if you have any questions or email us at support@perkinsroofing.net
Didn't know da orlovsky did tile
haha, you might be amazed, but this is not the first time I (Tim Kanak) have heard this. My college buddies were relentless.
Living here in the Northeast we don't have these extra issues on installation of a roof. Wow! This is a very expensive roof and labor intensive. Glad I'm here. Never going to Florida!
haha, we definitely pay for our fun in the sun in South Florida!
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You pay through the nose! What are the homeowners and condo owners going to do about their home insurance issues?
Is Ludovici making S-tiles ?
Yes
That's how true professional roofer does it. Awesome job, congratulations
Thank you John, appreciate it sir! Miami-Dade style tile install without fasteners is the way forward. It kills me every time I see tiles installed with nails or screws.
Nobody is wearing fall protection.
It's one story up and all employees have OSHA cards. OSHA mandates not FA is okay as long as there is a trained safety manager on-site, which all of our projects have.
Do you put metal in those valleys?
Yes, must be done (w/ valley metal) - per FL Building Code. However, I've seen it not done.
very professional, nice, responsible work, thank you ( a great premium underlayment for tile is to use the Owens Corning, Weatherlock Specialty, Tile & Metal, self adhering. ... costs more but is "another roof" under the roof tile.
More costly than some, but not all. It's a 65 mil roll and TU Plus (which is our standard) is an 80 mil roll.
Do you install synthetic roofing like Brava Spanish Tile that has 50 years and is Miami Dade approved
We have, but in our experience the clay tiles stand up to hurricanes better.
@@perkinsroofingcorpbrava say they are Miami Dade approved. Is the Synthetic Roofing more affordable than Clay or Metal
@@robertrichiez5698 No, concrete tile is cheaper.
@@perkinsroofingcorpis it substantially more expensive or a few hundred. They offer a 50 year transferable warranty. It’s Class A and Class C fire ratings and has a Class 4 impact rating. Seems good you say it doesn’t resist well to wind how is that ?
Off their site it says 50-year limited warranty, Brava Spanish Tile boasts a Class 4 hail impact rating, Brava tiles are tested and approved to withstand wind speeds of up to 188MPH with ring shank nails and up to 211MPH with high wind screw installation is available in Class A fire rating (the only one on the market) or Class C fire rating. They also say Disney has been using them since 2005
Is the foam used high density roof foam and how much foam per square for a barrel tile roof?
This all depends on each specific tile NOA. We use Polyset AH-160
6:45 can the parts be glued together and tile not be wasted ?!?
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can this kind of heat crack the clay tiles by chance?
No, the clay tiles are kiln heated and these particular tiles come with a fifty year warranty, which is longer than the life of the roof in South Florida as the waterproofing papers usually max out around 30-ish years.
@@perkinsroofingcorp thanks for information. Very useful.
@@HappyHopping11 No problem, we are happy to help!
Clay tiles are "cooked" in factory at 900ºC / *- 1600ºF ( at least here in Portugal..) they are not affected by the sun rays...I have a 60 years old clay tile roof it was turned almost black due to dirts, moss and lichen..last year I jet wash it and after that the tiles look like new...
@@netby Correct, the clay tiles range from a 50-75 year warranty, but the roof underneath can fail if it's not properly "beefed up"
9:40 why he sprays a line and a dot and not a continuous line ?
Thank you for sharing! This really informed me on how to install roof tiles in South Florida! :)
No problem, happy to help with any roofing education or needs!
Good Job !
very informational and interesting video, good job
Thank you!
This guy really knows his trade.
Thank you, we appreciate the compliments!
Do you have a video on how to lay out the product? Where to snap lines, start the bird stop, etc?
Project, not product
I do not believe I have a video of snapping lines yet, basically you take the tile you're installing as a sample and grid out the roof with the tile.
My guys generally snap lines and install hip/ridge metals prior to the tile delivery.
Are you guys hiring?
Yes, call our office (305) 687-6521
Do u have a video showing the wind resistance test ?
No, I'm not an engineer - the manufacturers might have something available upon request.
No nails
Yes, foam install
Where can I find the oxide color to mix with the mortar?
Pretty much any roofing supply shop, ABC Supply, Beacon, etc.
good job guys it looks like you do quality
Thank you, that's the goal! High quality service.
4:45 no metal sheet on the valley ?
That is another level of roofing, awesome video.
Thank you, appreciate the love! We work hard to achieve high quality output in roofing, waterproofing and all of our other trades!
papler stink hole up, ?? oaktree leave clean valley up? , put ice and hot shield in the valley.
dose the foam stick to the dusty floor?
The roof? We blow the dust off with a blower before we apply.
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Excellent video Bro !!
Thank you, appreciate it. If you need any roofing work done in South Florida, please let us know!
Wish u were in California lol 😆
@@J.NX10realestateinvestor I have a buddy who has a company in the LA area if you need someone good.
@@perkinsroofingcorp good looking out do you know anyone as good as you in the central California area
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Beautiful roof, but fugly boring house. Geebus.