The 1909 Ottoman Cavalry Sword
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- Introducing a not so known model: the Ottoman 1909 sword for the cavalry which was a very practical weapon that unfortunately
appeared too late & in the wrong time to show its true potential.
Small note: I mention a Brazilian cavalry sword model 1899 and its similar form to the British 1899 sword however it looks like it should instead be
the Brazilian model 1880 sword, appearing way before the British!
Stats
Sword length: 100cm / 39.5''
Blade length: 84cm / 33''
Blade width: 29mm
Blade thickness (back part): 7mm
Blade point of balance: 14cm
Weight of sword: 1100gr
Sources and additional info:
Websites:
www.ottoman-un... (now gone)
collections.ro...
www.germancolon...
www.jbmilitary...
Soundtrack:
Civilization V OST - Suleiman War Theme - Ceddin Deden - บันเทิง
In my opinion, the Turkish design seems more ergonomic than the British one.
Absolutely agree!
Thank you for making and airing this video. The historical accuracy and inclusion of art is enjoyable and useful to me.
Now this is something I haven't seen before.. Interesting..
I think I like the curved version better, especially with the whole crescent moon thing going on..
It does look a bit more fun to handle but the blade feels heavier, harder to control and the grip has a broken section so I can see why it was replaced by the 1909.
Grip somewhat similar to the 1908p British troopers sword. Also easy disassembly for repairs
Very
I think its interesting that after so many centuries using a curved sword, the Ottomans end up adopting the European straight sword.
Oh, and I just subscribed. You made a great vid.
Interesting photos and film clips!! Good looking blade.
Thanks 👍
@@pinswords I have not looked lately at your channel and I see many videos now. i've sent a link to your videos to my collecting friends.
@@HypocriticYT Much appreciated!!
What's your thoughts on the blade design? The Pipe back was always criticised in Britain and was replaced in the mid 1840S
I have the M1909 Ottoman officer dress sabre. Can you tell me something more about that sabre?
The guard is painted Black in the scabbard Mark black with Toledo the serial number says m13.
Sounds to me you have the cavalry trooper version. A very fun sword to own!
Very nice.
I have one from the Franco Spanish civil war it's Mark with the Franco stamp on it serial numbers weirdest i m 13 straight blade sword most of the guards were painted black with the Red Cross with the eagle
Is the guard wide enough to cover the hand? If so then it's the trooper version from 1943.
Here's one for the algorythm.
Interesting history! What standard issue military sword do you think would be the best for trimming the hedges in your front yard, whilst bellowing and wearing a horse-head mask at 3 AM in the morning?
(Looking to impress my noisy neighbors with my blade skills)
Thanks!
For thin-branched hedges I would think a broad, thin slashing blade would be favored. Perhaps a yatagan, but if you're looking for a standardized model perhaps the Brit infantry 1822 pipe-back? The US 1917 cutlass might do but the edge may not be fine enough.
@@mostlychimp5715 How about a nice kilij?
Have you ever came across the Franco Spanish civil war I have one as a straight blade the guard has the eagle and the Red Cross ever seen those before
Ah yes, the 1907 Puerto-Seguro sword. I had a bunch of them and will probably cover the model in a future video.
Two versions were made in 1943 with the eagle and cross: the full sized version for cavalry and the reduced version for NCOs; which one do you have?
Can you please confirm which model of German sword has the same scabbard that works for Turkish 1909?
None I think, they look very similar but the curvature and/or width of the blades won't match.
@@pinswordsdo you know by any chance who can make custom metal scabbards ?
You know how much the Turkish sords are going for the 1909
I am trying to find more information on the experimental German 1886 sword, but have not had any luck so far. Does anyone have any links to websites with information?
Hey, aside from the info found on G.Maier's books a few surviving specimen were sold at Hermann Historica and Jan Kube auctions. There's also this one : www.deutsches-blankwaffenforum.de/topic.php?id=1443
Thanks! You really helped me.
Hey Pavel, Jannes here. Question: you mention brass handles to be less suitable for dessert warfare. What is the reason for this?
Jannes, my man! From what I read in French documents it seems that sand scratches brass and damages it over time (one reason why officers from the Army of Africa preferred their iron hilted swords).
@@pinswords that makes sense, thanks!
But it has nothing to do with the Turkish model two completely different
Doesn't look like a padded footstool 😅😅😅😅