Mine too. I cant wait. Sucks the whole shipping situation but whst can we do right? Imagine fusing this with quest and you have a mind blowing adventure dungeon crawl game. Heck you can even come up with a minimalist rpg using those rules.
Thanks for the video, really enjoy watching it. But I have one question, at 27:26 shouldn't Gamelyn drop "EVERLIT TORCH" on the ground because both of his hands slot were already full? "EVERLIT TORCH" is also equip on hand slot right?
You are correct if they haven't changed it to a trinket. The Everlit torch in the video has a hand equipment icon which means the shield should have been discarded, assuming he would have kept the axe.
Really love the game, and you guys knocked it out of the park, but if you do a re-release, I would suggest having the trap tokens placed on the tile when the trap is still set (or make them two sided, one for armed, one for disarmed). Having a visual stop there, much like a monster token, is much easier to remember you need to take an action, then it is to see a reminder that you DON'T need to stop and take an action. Also, recoloring the add-on stuff (like the abilities and whatnot that boost attacks) so they are not so easily confused with the actual heroic actions themselves. I have had to explain that multiple times to players every time we have played. You guys keep knocking these games out of the park. I currently have all released games, and most of the expansion material. Some of my favorite stuff played in a very long time. Thanks.
Sigh...I found this video looking for examples of play and a few questions I had. It answered them PERFECTLY and I was like dang this dude knows these rules backwards and forwards that's crazy...that was SUPER HELPFUL...I should give him some likes and kudos!!! Then I realize...he's from Gamelyn Games.... XD So bottom line great video--AND it's from the authoritative source! :D And I forgot to post--thank you!!!!
@1:06:00 You missed the activation of the Boss while moving down the torch to the "trigger Enemy Actions". This would have done 2 more damage to both of your heros
Glad I backed it with all out pledge, it looks just as great with all content as I imagined and the value to content you get is just incredible. Thank you for this playthrough and thank you for creating this game :)
This playthrough really helped to clarify some of the rules and rulings, but I think there should have been a second person playing along who could help spot when a mistake was made. One that was driving me nuts through the whole thing was when Gamelyn had the torch equipped even though it's not a trinket but a hand item and his hand slots were already taken by the sword and shield
Needed to re-watch this to see what went wrong with our first run... We didn't notice that defeating minions get you rewards, we didn't know that you can maneuver the boss with it's meeple (thought you can only attack the boss with the given boss card cos their picture is in it!), lots of confusion with heroic actions and the best thing is that we managed to win our 3rd run with our seemingly hard setting. This clears WAYY more stuff than what our tiny brains could absorb and just so you know, we are loving the difficulty of this game~
What about the second token on the boss health meter? Don’t you have to lead the boss out of the dungeon to the other minion room to resolve that token before dealing the last few bits of damage? (Great game though! I’ve played 10+ times in the last week since getting it, still haven’t won, but it’s awesome!)
Question - I thought you couldn't move with an enemy in your space and taking a heroic action automatically ends your movement - several places you escaped minions or the boss without stealth and would do heroic actions and then move. Did I interpret the rules incorrectly?
I believe if you start your turn with an enemy already in your room (e.g. following enemy activation), then you can attack and move. However, you cannot move into a room with an enemy, attack, and move again. In other words, you can perform a heroic action and move if you haven't moved beforehand. Your movement is actually stopped when there is an enemy encounter (you move into a room with an enemy). I may be wrong though.
@@nicolasbrodeur8646 what you said i believe is the correct interpretation from what I've read on various forums. Makes sense in a way if you think about it. Ambushes are what stop your movement.
Looks like loot are more attractive than spells in the several playtroughs i've seen? There are "sets" in the loot pile while the spell piles have not. So it seems kind of off balanse? More tempting to choose loot.
I know this is an 8 month old comment but I will reply anyway :D Generally this is true and I agree with you, however there are many spellcasting characters who can draw spell cards by spending focus/energy. Also there are less spells than items so it should be easier to search for specific ones. On the side note collecting sets are fun but spells are not dependent on set bonuses and they are pretty useful on their own.
The big thing with spells is they ignore defence and line of sight and can be used for ranged and same location attacks. Makes it very easy to blow away goblins. The downside is most of them are fixed damage at 1 or 2 so you need to find some with higher damage for facing down the boss and his minions. I've seen people playing a wizard ignore spells to find equipment then when they have to fight something bigger than a goblin really struggle as they're only doing 1 damage per turn with a spell. There may be a tactic for sticking with another tanked up fighter but it means staying together.
@ 31:45 The Event of the Healing potion only affects all heroes in range 0, thus in the same room es the potion! The symbol for all heroes wherever they are is different (3 blue Hero heads side by side).
Finally someone playing with the human monk theater one my favorite to play he is really op if u think bout it if he can use his tiger strike and always pass intelligent check 4 he can Theoretically have infinite focus and on top of that kill a goblin and gain two focus its a win win
This is epic!!! Can't wait for my copy didn't have enough money to take all the extra goodies but the game I'm sure will be awesome. Great work once more loved the video there were some mistakes but it's understandable since you have to narrate the whole time. I love the work you guys are doing keep it up with all the great ideas !!
Is there a way to fail the Tiger Strike if you have at least 2 focus? You always roll 3 dice and the requirement is only 4. Since Everything below 3 is a value thats added to another dice, the worst you can roll is (3,3,3) or (+1,+1,+1) which would total to a 3. Both these rolls can easily be changed with 2 focus to (4,3,3) or (+1,+1,+2) which gives the required 4. Also it is very rare to roll these 2 results. Basically you never fail Tiger Strike.
Only 2 dice is used for tiger strike (as per the hero sheet), unless you have equipment that gives +1 dice to intelect. It is still one of the strongest heroes in the game. With 2 dice it remains easy to hit and not only the skill kills the goblin, but also give you focus
Question: From 44:15 to 44:20, as the player made a successfull skill check and used two focus, would the player receive three focus back from the unused die? Thank you for this walk-through!
You immediately gain the bonus from the unused dice on successful skill checks. So if you have full focus already there is no way to recover from any focus used after it
I watched an older video of gamplay where every check had to be one number higher than the number printed on the action. What is right now that I have the game in hand? Do I have to at least match the number or exceed it by at least one?
Question: Starting at 1:05:09, you say this character has a base of 3 (pointing to the Swiftness item), 4 (pointing to the Hook Shot), 5, 6, pointing basically at the air. I only see one Bear item, so the plusses the horn provides do not apply. Where is the character receiving the 5th and 6th base points you referred to? Thank you.
so i just got my kickstarter in the mail today and started watching videos on gameplay. in all the videos they say you lose the game if you die and your turn comes up with a monster in the room. in the rulebook i recieved it does not list this as a way to lose the game. was this once a rule in the prototype that has since been changed?
Yes, the rule was changed. You do not lose the game even if all heroes are unconscious and there are enemies with them (enemies actually ignore unconscious heroes)
Are you allowed to move after a heroic action? I see at around 32:40 he moved after killing a globlin. I thought that wasn’t allowed as per the rule book?
On your turn, your hero may perform any or all of the following actions in any order (however, none are mandatory): Move Perform One Heroic Action Perform Any Number of Free Actions I think you can use your heroic action before or after movement, but using a heroic action will instantly stop your movement if you started moving that turn.
If there is an enemy on the same spot with you, it's basically occupying your character so you can't do any of the room actions. But I could only find a rule stating you can't do any heroic actions, so I do still think you should be able to use a free action?
@@Browserii This rule seems to have changed after the release. You can perform any free action with enemies in the room, including the free action of the room. This means that if you are in the room that allows you to kill a goblin with a free action, you can still use it with enemies on it (the card actually spawns a goblin too, so this is important to know)
Hold up. When attacking the Boss at 49:02, you attacked for the strength check. Your strength check only has 1 dice, how would you have been able to roll all 3 of them? I see the +1 and others for the dice roll final number, but I don't see anywhere else where you get to add more dice to your strength check. Can you please clarify for me, Thank you! EDIT! ************Never mind, I didn't realize you said range attack before you counted everything up.***********************
Just a wee bit of cheating there. 2nd Mixy should've also caused -3 to Gamlin(?) as they were within 2 spaces. OR was that initial -3 caused before Mixy moved? [edit] Oh, it has to go through open paths, because of that Gamlin was not within 2 spaces.
At about 53:00 I don't think you could have moved your hero to one of the altars because you had the boss in the same room and technically you can't move through enemies
Hey, this is a bit late but I think you can move from the room with the boss. An enemy in a room will just stop your movement for that turn, so you can't just "blitz" through. "When moving into a room with an enemy, you cannot move any farther this turn." Gamelyn did not move in the same room with an enemy, as he was already there.
At 6:00 you attack with your sword ( which uses your heroic action) and use the ability of your character ( which is blue so in theory a second heroic action) how can this be. Couldn't you have used your free action to lose 2 focus and jump your 4 to a 5 dealing 1 dmg to the goblin?
They call it a trigger ability in the rule book. It’s only accessible during a certain heroic ability. In this case Zeal can only be used during a melee attack. There’s a colon between the blue icon and the cost/reward panel
@@nastillo in that case can you also use the trigger ability as your 1st heroic action ( HA) or it's only available AFTER you do any corresponding heroic action? And if your trigger ability is different than your main action I guess you can't use it Example : if you use a melee HA but the trigger HA is a Cast a spell you can't use the trigger
@@StellarlighQc They’re not actions themselves, they don’t have their own icon, just apply to the heroic action you pick. I think the use of the word ‘ability’ is important here. Yes you’re right in your example, they have a specific heroic action they trigger off, melee/ranged/spell
@@StellarlighQc You are correct. The ":" actions are only available when performing a like-symboled heroic action. A sword heroic action would trigger or enable a "sword :" action, but not a "ranged :" action.
That‘s what I‘m worried about, too. There‘s basically no way to have a „bad roll“ with these dice since even the low numbers add up and you can always change a die with focus.
@@NicoWeisenauer It is not that easy. Zezili is really powerful. Other heroes lose focus to be able to use their abilities instead of gaining, so it gets really hard to manage focus if you constantly use it to alter dice rolls. It is easy to miss the rolls for traps since for some of them you need a seven,and the minions and boss are random, there are some minions harder than others, same for the boss. As you saw in the video even with powerful characters and luck with the loot (the 3-piece lion set requires luck to get it) he only killed the boss with 3 turns left
@@pietroviske After playing many times I can say it is really not as easy as I thought it would be. Especially with many characters you can easily get overwhelmed or lose track of your remaining time!
@@NicoWeisenauer Yeah it is really luck dependent most of the time. My last match the boss lair was the next room after a minion room, and the boss only required one altar token to unlock the HP so the battle was super easy. You can also alter the difficult by choosing a hard boss, and the minions from expansion are tougher
Game looks fun, but the whole almost always one shotting the enemies isn't that appealing to me, and how you can spend focus to pretty much win the dice roll every time takes the dice roll stress/fun away.
Can't wait to play it ! It's literally my first Kickstarter Pledge ever!!!
I'm excited to play it as well. It was my first pledge too.
Mine too. I cant wait. Sucks the whole shipping situation but whst can we do right? Imagine fusing this with quest and you have a mind blowing adventure dungeon crawl game. Heck you can even come up with a minimalist rpg using those rules.
Can't wait to get this one on the table. So glad to be a part of the KS!
Your explanation is easy to follow compared to others who stop and describe every detail then play.
I love all of the Tiny Epic Games but this one is going to be my favorite! I'm very excited to play this! Thanks for the playthrough.
Thanks for the video,
really enjoy watching it.
But I have one question, at 27:26 shouldn't Gamelyn drop "EVERLIT TORCH" on the ground because both of his hands slot were already full?
"EVERLIT TORCH" is also equip on hand slot right?
I was just wondering the same thing.
You are correct if they haven't changed it to a trinket. The Everlit torch in the video has a hand equipment icon which means the shield should have been discarded, assuming he would have kept the axe.
Really love the game, and you guys knocked it out of the park, but if you do a re-release, I would suggest having the trap tokens placed on the tile when the trap is still set (or make them two sided, one for armed, one for disarmed). Having a visual stop there, much like a monster token, is much easier to remember you need to take an action, then it is to see a reminder that you DON'T need to stop and take an action. Also, recoloring the add-on stuff (like the abilities and whatnot that boost attacks) so they are not so easily confused with the actual heroic actions themselves. I have had to explain that multiple times to players every time we have played.
You guys keep knocking these games out of the park. I currently have all released games, and most of the expansion material. Some of my favorite stuff played in a very long time. Thanks.
Sigh...I found this video looking for examples of play and a few questions I had. It answered them PERFECTLY and I was like dang this dude knows these rules backwards and forwards that's crazy...that was SUPER HELPFUL...I should give him some likes and kudos!!! Then I realize...he's from Gamelyn Games.... XD
So bottom line great video--AND it's from the authoritative source! :D
And I forgot to post--thank you!!!!
LOVE the components’ look! Keep up the great work!
@1:06:00 You missed the activation of the Boss while moving down the torch to the "trigger Enemy Actions". This would have done 2 more damage to both of your heros
Got mine today. Was extremely excited to play my first game!!
Glad I backed it with all out pledge, it looks just as great with all content as I imagined and the value to content you get is just incredible.
Thank you for this playthrough and thank you for creating this game :)
Tiny Epic Dungeons is very deceptive when it comes to the size of the box. There is a huge game within that small box!
I wish more games cared about space like this. This is only game I am taking with me while traveling
@@pietroviske It’s perfect for that. The box really is very small.
This playthrough really helped to clarify some of the rules and rulings, but I think there should have been a second person playing along who could help spot when a mistake was made.
One that was driving me nuts through the whole thing was when Gamelyn had the torch equipped even though it's not a trinket but a hand item and his hand slots were already taken by the sword and shield
Gamelyn was using 3 hand slot items, he's dobbed on! :)
That was a nice catch! I've watched the whole playthrough without noticing it lol
Love your enthusiastic play and explanation. Thank you!!
Needed to re-watch this to see what went wrong with our first run... We didn't notice that defeating minions get you rewards, we didn't know that you can maneuver the boss with it's meeple (thought you can only attack the boss with the given boss card cos their picture is in it!), lots of confusion with heroic actions and the best thing is that we managed to win our 3rd run with our seemingly hard setting. This clears WAYY more stuff than what our tiny brains could absorb and just so you know, we are loving the difficulty of this game~
Brilliant gameplay and I learnt a lot!
What about the second token on the boss health meter? Don’t you have to lead the boss out of the dungeon to the other minion room to resolve that token before dealing the last few bits of damage? (Great game though! I’ve played 10+ times in the last week since getting it, still haven’t won, but it’s awesome!)
Question - I thought you couldn't move with an enemy in your space and taking a heroic action automatically ends your movement - several places you escaped minions or the boss without stealth and would do heroic actions and then move. Did I interpret the rules incorrectly?
I believe if you start your turn with an enemy already in your room (e.g. following enemy activation), then you can attack and move. However, you cannot move into a room with an enemy, attack, and move again. In other words, you can perform a heroic action and move if you haven't moved beforehand. Your movement is actually stopped when there is an enemy encounter (you move into a room with an enemy). I may be wrong though.
@@nicolasbrodeur8646 what you said i believe is the correct interpretation from what I've read on various forums. Makes sense in a way if you think about it. Ambushes are what stop your movement.
Looks like loot are more attractive than spells in the several playtroughs i've seen? There are "sets" in the loot pile while the spell piles have not. So it seems kind of off balanse? More tempting to choose loot.
I know this is an 8 month old comment but I will reply anyway :D Generally this is true and I agree with you, however there are many spellcasting characters who can draw spell cards by spending focus/energy. Also there are less spells than items so it should be easier to search for specific ones. On the side note collecting sets are fun but spells are not dependent on set bonuses and they are pretty useful on their own.
The big thing with spells is they ignore defence and line of sight and can be used for ranged and same location attacks. Makes it very easy to blow away goblins. The downside is most of them are fixed damage at 1 or 2 so you need to find some with higher damage for facing down the boss and his minions. I've seen people playing a wizard ignore spells to find equipment then when they have to fight something bigger than a goblin really struggle as they're only doing 1 damage per turn with a spell. There may be a tactic for sticking with another tanked up fighter but it means staying together.
@ 31:45 The Event of the Healing potion only affects all heroes in range 0, thus in the same room es the potion! The symbol for all heroes wherever they are is different (3 blue Hero heads side by side).
No it does not. It affects all heroes. RTFM
Your voice sounds like Patton Oswalt 😁
Finally someone playing with the human monk theater one my favorite to play he is really op if u think bout it if he can use his tiger strike and always pass intelligent check 4 he can Theoretically have infinite focus and on top of that kill a goblin and gain two focus its a win win
This is epic!!! Can't wait for my copy didn't have enough money to take all the extra goodies but the game I'm sure will be awesome. Great work once more loved the video there were some mistakes but it's understandable since you have to narrate the whole time. I love the work you guys are doing keep it up with all the great ideas !!
Is there a way to fail the Tiger Strike if you have at least 2 focus? You always roll 3 dice and the requirement is only 4. Since Everything below 3 is a value thats added to another dice, the worst you can roll is (3,3,3) or (+1,+1,+1) which would total to a 3. Both these rolls can easily be changed with 2 focus to (4,3,3) or (+1,+1,+2) which gives the required 4. Also it is very rare to roll these 2 results. Basically you never fail Tiger Strike.
Only 2 dice is used for tiger strike (as per the hero sheet), unless you have equipment that gives +1 dice to intelect. It is still one of the strongest heroes in the game. With 2 dice it remains easy to hit and not only the skill kills the goblin, but also give you focus
Question: From 44:15 to 44:20, as the player made a successfull skill check and used two focus, would the player receive three focus back from the unused die?
Thank you for this walk-through!
You immediately gain the bonus from the unused dice on successful skill checks. So if you have full focus already there is no way to recover from any focus used after it
Nevermind noticed it was a Spell.
I watched an older video of gamplay where every check had to be one number higher than the number printed on the action. What is right now that I have the game in hand? Do I have to at least match the number or exceed it by at least one?
For skill checks you have to match the number or exceed it. This video was recorded before the final version of the game came out.
Question: Starting at 1:05:09, you say this character has a base of 3 (pointing to the Swiftness item), 4 (pointing to the Hook Shot), 5, 6, pointing basically at the air. I only see one Bear item, so the plusses the horn provides do not apply. Where is the character receiving the 5th and 6th base points you referred to? Thank you.
Hi, those 5 and 6 come from standing on a +2 spot in the boss lair.
Great Video. Looks so much fun.
Quick question: I only late pledged the game on CrowdDox.
When and how will I receive the Print n Play Files?
Check their updates, I believe it's update #18. They posted the files there because the Kickstarter email system wasn't working for the files.
@@nin_the_destroyer2602 These files are only for Kickstarter Backers. Since I only late pledged on crowdox, I have no access to these files.
@@MasterMojo85 Oh, right! In that case, I'm not sure. Emailing them seems to be the best step with this issue. Good luck!
@@MasterMojo85 not true, I did late pledge via CrowdOx and received PnP files
so i just got my kickstarter in the mail today and started watching videos on gameplay. in all the videos they say you lose the game if you die and your turn comes up with a monster in the room. in the rulebook i recieved it does not list this as a way to lose the game. was this once a rule in the prototype that has since been changed?
I have the same question.
Yes, the rule was changed. You do not lose the game even if all heroes are unconscious and there are enemies with them (enemies actually ignore unconscious heroes)
nice dice!
Are you allowed to move after a heroic action? I see at around 32:40 he moved after killing a globlin. I thought that wasn’t allowed as per the rule book?
The movement ends when you enter a room with a minion so since he already started his turn there that doesn't apply.
Page 7 of rulebook under MOVE : performing a heroic action will end your movement.
On your turn, your hero may perform any or all of the following actions in any order (however, none are mandatory):
Move
Perform One Heroic Action
Perform Any Number of Free Actions
I think you can use your heroic action before or after movement, but using a heroic action will instantly stop your movement if you started moving that turn.
@@Browserii This is the correct answer. You can still move if you used the heroic action before doing the first movement
With that 3rd boomy goblin, was 3 x 4's not enough to beat him as you totaled 12, beating his armour defence?
@ 3:49 You said you cant use the free action of the room because "he is only there", what does that mean? Why cant you use it?
If there is an enemy on the same spot with you, it's basically occupying your character so you can't do any of the room actions. But I could only find a rule stating you can't do any heroic actions, so I do still think you should be able to use a free action?
@@Browserii This rule seems to have changed after the release. You can perform any free action with enemies in the room, including the free action of the room. This means that if you are in the room that allows you to kill a goblin with a free action, you can still use it with enemies on it (the card actually spawns a goblin too, so this is important to know)
After the rolling trap, why wouldn't you explore another room?
Hold up. When attacking the Boss at 49:02, you attacked for the strength check. Your strength check only has 1 dice, how would you have been able to roll all 3 of them? I see the +1 and others for the dice roll final number, but I don't see anywhere else where you get to add more dice to your strength check. Can you please clarify for me, Thank you!
EDIT! ************Never mind, I didn't realize you said range attack before you counted everything up.***********************
I don’t understand how more characters means smaller dungeon seems backwards
Just a wee bit of cheating there. 2nd Mixy should've also caused -3 to Gamlin(?) as they were within 2 spaces. OR was that initial -3 caused before Mixy moved?
[edit] Oh, it has to go through open paths, because of that Gamlin was not within 2 spaces.
At about 53:00 I don't think you could have moved your hero to one of the altars because you had the boss in the same room and technically you can't move through enemies
Hey, this is a bit late but I think you can move from the room with the boss. An enemy in a room will just stop your movement for that turn, so you can't just "blitz" through. "When moving into a room with an enemy, you cannot move any farther this turn." Gamelyn did not move in the same room with an enemy, as he was already there.
When you defeat the goblin I think you have to take a new loot not a discarded one right
Nvm checked the rules again and you are right. And it seems like I've been playing the game pretty wrong lol. No wonder it was so hard
Got it too.
Should have used the game mat or don't you have a copy yet.?
At 6:00 you attack with your sword ( which uses your heroic action) and use the ability of your character ( which is blue so in theory a second heroic action) how can this be. Couldn't you have used your free action to lose 2 focus and jump your 4 to a 5 dealing 1 dmg to the goblin?
They call it a trigger ability in the rule book. It’s only accessible during a certain heroic ability. In this case Zeal can only be used during a melee attack. There’s a colon between the blue icon and the cost/reward panel
@@nastillo in that case can you also use the trigger ability as your 1st heroic action ( HA) or it's only available AFTER you do any corresponding heroic action?
And if your trigger ability is different than your main action I guess you can't use it
Example : if you use a melee HA but the trigger HA is a Cast a spell you can't use the trigger
@@StellarlighQc They’re not actions themselves, they don’t have their own icon, just apply to the heroic action you pick. I think the use of the word ‘ability’ is important here. Yes you’re right in your example, they have a specific heroic action they trigger off, melee/ranged/spell
@@StellarlighQc You are correct. The ":" actions are only available when performing a like-symboled heroic action. A sword heroic action would trigger or enable a "sword :" action, but not a "ranged :" action.
Looks fun, and I backed it, but does anyone else think it looks really easy?
That‘s what I‘m worried about, too. There‘s basically no way to have a „bad roll“ with these dice since even the low numbers add up and you can always change a die with focus.
@@NicoWeisenauer It is not that easy. Zezili is really powerful. Other heroes lose focus to be able to use their abilities instead of gaining, so it gets really hard to manage focus if you constantly use it to alter dice rolls. It is easy to miss the rolls for traps since for some of them you need a seven,and the minions and boss are random, there are some minions harder than others, same for the boss. As you saw in the video even with powerful characters and luck with the loot (the 3-piece lion set requires luck to get it) he only killed the boss with 3 turns left
@@pietroviske After playing many times I can say it is really not as easy as I thought it would be. Especially with many characters you can easily get overwhelmed or lose track of your remaining time!
@@NicoWeisenauer Yeah it is really luck dependent most of the time. My last match the boss lair was the next room after a minion room, and the boss only required one altar token to unlock the HP so the battle was super easy. You can also alter the difficult by choosing a hard boss, and the minions from expansion are tougher
how you get it all already
This the creator of the game
"pokey, stabby shooty goblin". This is a deal breaker for me
you realize that "shot goblin" doesn't make sense right?
35:04 There is no such thing as cheating when playing solo. :)
I need thix asap
Game looks fun, but the whole almost always one shotting the enemies isn't that appealing to me, and how you can spend focus to pretty much win the dice roll every time takes the dice roll stress/fun away.