Of course people are still looking at your old lessons Adrian! hat you put on the net is gold, an anthology that is invaluable for those who want to keep this music alive.
This video is awesome! I’m a teen that just stumbled upon New Order in my dad’s music library and became obsessed with them and Joy Division. I just started playing guitar today and I’m so happy to be learning one of my favorite songs.
My favorite thing about this lesson is your comment about how that guitar riff lands on a different part of the bar during the second verse. Stuff like that is gold for me because it makes me a better listener and makes me think a lot more about an otherwise simple song. I doubt I would have noticed this on my own.
This was just awesome Adrian! I appreciate that you included both the guitar and bass parts, I will definitely learn both and enjoy both! Have a great weekend!
Thank you so much! I have loved Joy Division for a while and always wanted to learn some of their songs but could never find a guide that covered bass! Now me and my friends can play the song together correctly
Great lesson! I wish you would do more dual guitar/bass lessons, or even just bass lessons, for all these classic alternative/post-punk songs that you discuss.
Love your lessons and really love your choices, would really like to see a breakdown of one of the Gun Club's tunes, maybe For the love of Ivy or Fire Spirit.
Ah, takes me back to when we were kids first learning our instruments, this is one of the first songs we did. Never could figure out that weird bassline during the guitar breaks though, I think we just winged it somehow.
Great vídeo, thank you, disorder is such a good song to play. I would love to see Romeo's distress by Christian Death, It is a great song. I love your channel, you have such a good taste in music.
Well done Adrian I've been playing this in different places on the guitar and thanks for the bass as well I don't have one try most of hoots lines on my lower strings. Once again you explain things simply and make easier for the likes of me .CHEERS
On the original recording Bernard Sumner was using a Shergold Masquerader and Peter Hook was using a Hondo Rickenbacker copy - what they are playing in the Something Else show video on TH-cam
The second bass part played on the record really sounds like a mistake, and I think Hooky mentions it in an interview, but it says so much about Martin Hannett as a producer that he left it in.
Your New Dawn Fades video was how I discovered your channel, shocked that anyone would do a video lesson for this music I grew up with, and been a big fan ever since. (Side note apropos of not much: highly recommend Hook's book Unknown Pleasures to any JD fans, not great art but a rollicking good read.)
A famous musician once said to me ‘JD will be great when they learn to play their instruments’ I actually think their inexperience is the reason these songs sound so different and so atmospheric.
Great!! Would love to see you do a Modest Mouse lesson once. Maybe a bit of an odd request, but I've gotten into them and they have some amazing guitar work. Especially on Lonesome Crowded West. Isaac Brock is a guitar hero
Kind of ironic that the opening of the first New Order single, Ceremony (actually a Joy Division song) was a very similar riff (albeit two semitones higher) to the first track on the first Joy Division album.
Been listening to JD/NO songs for 40 years but I've only just realised that the guitar part in the verse of this is very similar to the opening bass riff in Ceremony.
Hello there Adrian, could you possibly prepare an Atmosphere lesson either entirely for guitar or for bass also? I feel this is their most thoughtful and sometimes overlooked piece.
One of my all time favorites! I’ve been meaning to make a backing track of this song for myself, any chance you’ll be sharing yours? Also, Sumner was using a chorus/vibrato when performing this song. Not necessarily how they did it in the studio of course
@@latontolog it definitely sounds like chorus which would have been around by then, but Martin Hannet, the producer was known for doing things in an unorthodox manner. He had an entire array of delays he would use to create various echoes, reverbs, and probably chorus sounds
Late to he party, but great idea to include the bass line. I have a bass (bought for my son) that doesn't get played much, but it's cool to learn bass lines too.
Really like your videos, JD/NO are fun to play. Listening to their live sound, Bernard Sumner did an excellent job on guitar. One track I started figuring out is Spitfire by Public Service Broadcasting which has a cool sounding middle riff that's not too out of reach.
Hey Adrian. Looking forward to learning this song. It was your channel with Shadowplay getting me back into guitar playing since a very long time ago. Also, concerning Shadowplay, I am wondering how to play or which chords there are at around 2:10 until 2:20 at the studio recording. Can you help me out? Many thanks and cheers from Belgium!
for the second bass part i believe it’s on the A string 5 3 then on the E 6 0 instead of on the A 5 then on the E 6 3 0 although very cool variation and then bassline changes at the end to hitting the first fret E and then building it up the neck like 22334456789 then on the 9th fret you slide to the 12 keep doing that and hit the 12th fret two times every 4 beats i think ?
Interesting to see how you play the bass part. I always play it with fretted notes only, and played in one position. The way you play it seems much more likely to be the way Hooky did it, as he rarely (if ever) uses his little finger to fret notes and favours open strings wherever possible. There's also that great ending where it holds on the low F and then ascends to end with the slide between ninth and twelfth frets. On a pedantic note, the Unknown Pleasures sessions weren't the first time they'd been in a studio. They'd recorded several demos (the second released as the debut EP), an unsatisfactory first album, sessions with Martin Rushent producing and their first time in the studio with Hannett that ended up on the "Factory Sample" release. As for equipment, it was either a Gibson SG or similar sounding Shergold upgraded with Di Marzio Super Distortion pickups and Fender bridge. The amp was a rare Vox that has a solid state pre into tube power amp. Effects were most likely either a cheap Melos tape echo or Hannett's secret weapon, the crazy Marshall Time Modulator. Hope this doesn't come across as too much pedantry and excessive detail!
Oh, and bass gear would have been horrible Hondo Rickenbacker copy into either a Sound City or Hiwatt amp (not sure when Hooky switched amps) into a dual 18" Vox Foundation cabinet. Which is the exact setup - with the Hiwatt - that I use in a Joy Division tribute, along with a Yamaha BB1200 (the non active version) for Love Will Tear Us Apart). The Yamaha bass can be seen in the LWTUA video, and was later replaced with the active version when the first one was stolen during New Order's first US tour.
Thanks for the comment Chris. Pedantry and excessive detail very welcome here! Thanks for putting me right that they'd been into the studio prior to the Unknown Pleasures sessions. Also, fascinating info on the likely gear used on this recording - thanks for sharing.
it was very interesting for me to look at this as i already know how to play the song on both bass and guitar and see how different it was played on this lesson, usually the guitar part for me is played on the 8 and 10th fret of the d and g strings and then for the second part of the riff at the 8th and 10th fret of the a and g strings, the bass part too is different i usually play it with a E flat on the g string to a G on the d string then to the B flat on the e string and back go the G on the d string
joy division sound as god today as they did back then. now i think this evening , while gaming online with my mates, i'll play joy division and the first new order lp.
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Of course people are still looking at your old lessons Adrian! hat you put on the net is gold, an anthology that is invaluable for those who want to keep this music alive.
That bassline from Hooky is nuts. Love the bum note. Not many players would choose to do that. Those little details are why I love Joy Division.
The bum notes are integral to the overall sound , pure genius
I'm a simple man. I see Joy Division, I click the like button.
This video is awesome! I’m a teen that just stumbled upon New Order in my dad’s music library and became obsessed with them and Joy Division. I just started playing guitar today and I’m so happy to be learning one of my favorite songs.
How is the guitar playing going?
Finally, Disorder. My favorite Joy Division song, thank you Adrian.
Time and again, the choices of which songs to put up lessons on are streets ahead of any other channel out there. No change today
You should also check out Eric Haugen's channel. He doesn't do as many song demos but the ones he does are great. Of course no one can top Adrian!
Agreed, most other channels are just streets behind.
This is the first song I taught myself. Such nostalgia
Me too
Same on my side.. those times I thought I was playing too few notes, but after all I see I was right 😉
Haha same! As a beginner guitarist when I got it all right it felt magical
When I see Joy Division or The Smiths on this channel..it is my happy day. ✌🏼😊
Also, Joy Division is my favourite band ever. 🖤
My favorite thing about this lesson is your comment about how that guitar riff lands on a different part of the bar during the second verse. Stuff like that is gold for me because it makes me a better listener and makes me think a lot more about an otherwise simple song. I doubt I would have noticed this on my own.
This was just awesome Adrian! I appreciate that you included both the guitar and bass parts, I will definitely learn both and enjoy both! Have a great weekend!
Far and away the most well put together, entertaining and complete, JD lessons on the net. Please consider doing a few more. 🍻👍
My maaaaaaaaaaaan, thank you so much. I play guitar but my main instrument is bass, please make more videos like this one.
Yeah, always happy to see more Joy Division!
You are truly the best guitar teacher out there Adrian!
Thank you so much! I have loved Joy Division for a while and always wanted to learn some of their songs but could never find a guide that covered bass! Now me and my friends can play the song together correctly
Joy Division is probably in my top 3 favorite bands of all time. Always appreciate a lesson of any song 🙏
king. Possible another Television lesson in the future?
Friction or Elevation! So hard to find a good lesson for either of those
yes please
Yes, I’d like one for Foxhole. Mainly because I’d get to use ‘underrated’ 😀
What about some Devo?
@@martinwatson9615 haha nice one. Foxhole is great
I played this song with the band I was in at school in 1981!
You played it right when it came out?
Joy divisions is great to cover because being sloppy just makes you sound more like them
@@ST-xg3gy No it was released in 1979
Another excellent choice! Thanks for this-the bass lesson is really fun, too.
🖤 for Ian Curtis, Joy Division and this Channel. I cant belive i missed this one😅 Realy love your channel and the music you choose.❤ Thank you.
Im always so amazed as the songs he picks and how close they sound to the real songs
Loved it Adrian……don’t forget the bunnymen🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰 or perhaps with those bass skillz Japan’s sons of pioneers. Mick Karn would be proud
A killing moon lesson would be sick
Great lesson! I wish you would do more dual guitar/bass lessons, or even just bass lessons, for all these classic alternative/post-punk songs that you discuss.
Love your lessons and really love your choices, would really like to see a breakdown of one of the Gun Club's tunes, maybe For the love of Ivy or Fire Spirit.
I learned this song by myself.. and always thought I played it wrong, GLAD YOU UPLOADED THIS ACG!! THANKSS SO MUCH!!
I like that you don't pretend to know exactly how they really produced those sounds. Nice approach
Just received my Eastwood Hooky FAC51 6-String Bass....perfect timing ; ) Cheers Adrian!!
To my mind, the greatest album opener ever. Both the music and the lyrics immediately establish a territory of their own.
I just got a new looper pedal and this song is the perfect thing for simple but cool parts to test a looper!
Thank you Adrian. I love this song and it’s the first song I learned to play right through.
Ah, takes me back to when we were kids first learning our instruments, this is one of the first songs we did. Never could figure out that weird bassline during the guitar breaks though, I think we just winged it somehow.
Could you make Television - Friction guitar lesson?
Thank you so much Adrian for explaining both guitar and bass !!
Great vídeo, thank you, disorder is such a good song to play.
I would love to see Romeo's distress by Christian Death, It is a great song. I love your channel, you have such a good taste in music.
One of my top five favorite songs!
Well done Adrian I've been playing this in different places on the guitar and thanks for the bass as well I don't have one try most of hoots lines on my lower strings. Once again you explain things simply and make easier for the likes of me .CHEERS
Again Adrian - impeccable taste - looking forward to watching this one :) Thanks so much for your great channel
Thank you so much for these lessons
This song is perfect for me as far as skill level and musical taste. Thanks for breaking it down! Have you covered the Feelies yet?
On the original recording Bernard Sumner was using a Shergold Masquerader and Peter Hook was using a Hondo Rickenbacker copy - what they are playing in the Something Else show video on TH-cam
Thank u so much for everything , u r my favorite channel !!!
The second bass part played on the record really sounds like a mistake, and I think Hooky mentions it in an interview, but it says so much about Martin Hannett as a producer that he left it in.
For a track called "Disorder", that's genius!
What is the time stamp of that bum note? I've been listening to this track for years!
Your New Dawn Fades video was how I discovered your channel, shocked that anyone would do a video lesson for this music I grew up with, and been a big fan ever since. (Side note apropos of not much: highly recommend Hook's book Unknown Pleasures to any JD fans, not great art but a rollicking good read.)
Hey thank you for letting us know about his book. I just ordered it!
thanks Adrian, another great lesson!
Your song selections are the best!
Great lesson, particularly the bass part. Please do more classic bass lines.
you show me how to play my favorite songs thank you i appreciate you so much
A famous musician once said to me ‘JD will be great when they learn to play their instruments’ I actually think their inexperience is the reason these songs sound so different and so atmospheric.
More bass lessons please
“Chops meister” - I have a new favourite expression 😄
Great!! Would love to see you do a Modest Mouse lesson once. Maybe a bit of an odd request, but I've gotten into them and they have some amazing guitar work. Especially on Lonesome Crowded West. Isaac Brock is a guitar hero
Another great lesson selection Adrian!
One of Hookie's best bass lines!
Adrian you fucking nailed it again bro
Excellent choice!
Excellent - thank you Adrian. 🙏😊
Just got my daughter a bass guitar so while "testing it" I thought I would watch this again, this time the bass parts.
Grande Adrian. Great choice of song. Thanks 👍🏻
Kind of ironic that the opening of the first New Order single, Ceremony (actually a Joy Division song) was a very similar riff (albeit two semitones higher) to the first track on the first Joy Division album.
Was going to point out the same thing - the opening bass riff of Ceremony with the fifth and octave pattern.
Yaaaaas Adrian! You legend! We love u
Great thanks also I need to play more often bass
So happy you did another Joy Division song! Such simple phrasing, yet so effective!
Been listening to JD/NO songs for 40 years but I've only just realised that the guitar part in the verse of this is very similar to the opening bass riff in Ceremony.
thank you!
The song i was waiting for
Great job. I think the modulation Bernard uses is a little bit of Chorus.
What a nice job
Your lessons are so good, I love Joy Division
Great channel. Joy Division is great. New Order...
Hello there Adrian, could you possibly prepare an Atmosphere lesson either entirely for guitar or for bass also? I feel this is their most thoughtful and sometimes overlooked piece.
One of my all time favorites! I’ve been meaning to make a backing track of this song for myself, any chance you’ll be sharing yours?
Also, Sumner was using a chorus/vibrato when performing this song. Not necessarily how they did it in the studio of course
I think the guitar on the album version does sound like it might have some light chorus on it, actually.
@@latontolog it definitely sounds like chorus which would have been around by then, but Martin Hannet, the producer was known for doing things in an unorthodox manner. He had an entire array of delays he would use to create various echoes, reverbs, and probably chorus sounds
@@asims1066 Yeah, good point, could have been anything really. Might even have been Hooky's Clone Theory used on Bernie's guitar?
as usual, just great....
Fantastic as always! Any way you could do Day of the lords?
foggy notion by velvet underground pls
Still the absolute best guitar channel on TH-cam. Any chance you could have a go at Springtime by Leatherface? Love that riff!
Thank You! ⚡️🖤⚡️
Late to he party, but great idea to include the bass line. I have a bass (bought for my son) that doesn't get played much, but it's cool to learn bass lines too.
Nice, thank you
Thanks for this. The song has great phrasing.
👍 on the t-shirt.
Bravo Sir!
Awesome
Thanks for the video and your awesome work.
Would be great if you did ‘Novelty’ as well.
I love you maaaan! Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Really like your videos, JD/NO are fun to play. Listening to their live sound, Bernard Sumner did an excellent job on guitar. One track I started figuring out is Spitfire by Public Service Broadcasting which has a cool sounding middle riff that's not too out of reach.
loved it!!!!!
Hello from Florida Adrian!, think you might do "Nothing else matters" by metallica?
Love!! Is there any possibility you'd do Ice Age by Joy Division? Thanks.
Towards the end when you play the lead intro with a cleaner tone and without the bass it sounds to me like the bass intro section to ceremony.
Hey Adrian.
Looking forward to learning this song. It was your channel with Shadowplay getting me back into guitar playing since a very long time ago.
Also, concerning Shadowplay, I am wondering how to play or which chords there are at around 2:10 until 2:20 at the studio recording. Can you help me out?
Many thanks and cheers from Belgium!
You share my philosophy on pedals , just turn the knobs till they sound good 👍
I haven't touched my bass since lockdown. Time to change that!
Love it! Thank you!
Can you do Teenage Riot yet?????
Any chance of more Minutemen or Fall...or some Beefheart?
for the second bass part i believe it’s on the A string 5 3 then on the E 6 0 instead of on the A 5 then on the E 6 3 0 although very cool variation and then bassline changes at the end to hitting the first fret E and then building it up the neck like 22334456789 then on the 9th fret you slide to the 12 keep doing that and hit the 12th fret two times every 4 beats i think ?
very good lesson though i’m loving these 🙌
Interesting to see how you play the bass part. I always play it with fretted notes only, and played in one position. The way you play it seems much more likely to be the way Hooky did it, as he rarely (if ever) uses his little finger to fret notes and favours open strings wherever possible. There's also that great ending where it holds on the low F and then ascends to end with the slide between ninth and twelfth frets.
On a pedantic note, the Unknown Pleasures sessions weren't the first time they'd been in a studio. They'd recorded several demos (the second released as the debut EP), an unsatisfactory first album, sessions with Martin Rushent producing and their first time in the studio with Hannett that ended up on the "Factory Sample" release.
As for equipment, it was either a Gibson SG or similar sounding Shergold upgraded with Di Marzio Super Distortion pickups and Fender bridge. The amp was a rare Vox that has a solid state pre into tube power amp. Effects were most likely either a cheap Melos tape echo or Hannett's secret weapon, the crazy Marshall Time Modulator.
Hope this doesn't come across as too much pedantry and excessive detail!
Oh, and bass gear would have been horrible Hondo Rickenbacker copy into either a Sound City or Hiwatt amp (not sure when Hooky switched amps) into a dual 18" Vox Foundation cabinet. Which is the exact setup - with the Hiwatt - that I use in a Joy Division tribute, along with a Yamaha BB1200 (the non active version) for Love Will Tear Us Apart). The Yamaha bass can be seen in the LWTUA video, and was later replaced with the active version when the first one was stolen during New Order's first US tour.
Thanks for the comment Chris. Pedantry and excessive detail very welcome here! Thanks for putting me right that they'd been into the studio prior to the Unknown Pleasures sessions. Also, fascinating info on the likely gear used on this recording - thanks for sharing.
it was very interesting for me to look at this as i already know how to play the song on both bass and guitar and see how different it was played on this lesson, usually the guitar part for me is played on the 8 and 10th fret of the d and g strings and then for the second part of the riff at the 8th and 10th fret of the a and g strings, the bass part too is different i usually play it with a E flat on the g string to a G on the d string then to the B flat on the e string and back go the G on the d string
If Hooky ever needs a guitarist for the Light , you'd be perfect.
When are you going to do something by New Order or Wedding Present!
Sweet
would like to learn dead souls.
joy division sound as god today as they did back then. now i think this evening , while gaming online with my mates, i'll play joy division and the first new order lp.