2024 Overland Expo West | My budget overland opinion
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- For the first time ever I head over to the one and only overland expo west to see the new gear and rigs as of 2024. This is my opinion on the expo, if I feels it’s a worthy investment to attend and an overall walk around the fort Tuthill grounds.
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'Use your trucks!' Words to live by, thx for the vid.
Thanks watching!
I go to see the show and look at the $100k plus rigs but get excited when I can grab some camping body wipes from Shower Pouch. The "Overlanding" mark up on stuff is nuts. Been using the same Coleman stove for almost 4 decades. It doesn't have to be expensive or complicated. Great channel. Wish we would have bumped into you up there to say thanks for your efforts.👍
I love how you skipped over LLODs Tundra. ha ha... I get it.
I was going to travel to the expo but decided to take that entry and gas money to get stuff really need.
Thanks for the virtual tour
I didn’t even realize who’s truck that was, I’m not a fan of the new gens at all lol. Smart choice saving your money, might be cool to see some day but keep the dough for camp trips!
There is a TH-camr - 110 West Overland. They are based here in NM & they drive a RAV4 that they travel all over the Southwest & shoot videos of there adventures. It seems that it's mostly day trips for them but they post really good quality stuff. I've always enjoyed seeing overland events like this to find out what gear is available & to see how other people build their rigs. It really helps with ideas as to what is necessary & what isn't for myself. Thanks for the video. It's kinda fun to watch when your wife participates.
If you had the money, nothing wrong with these set ups. I love the innovation in the space. I'd like to see more minimalist / ultralight builds that don't sacrifice to much. That's where the industry should be headed next.
Totally agree with your review. Who can actually afford this stuff, and then actually afford to go beat it up on the trail. Glad to see you guys enjoying the Rav. Totally underrated vehicle.
Definitely! Thanks!
Just got back too. Agree that the real show is in the camp ground. Lots of real rigs that get used. Some garage queens too. I have a truck that no vendor there sells things for. I go there to get ideas about how to build my rig (1994 Pathfinder) and I also like looking at the little stuff that makes packing my tiny rig more efficiently. Bought two Sidio plastic boxes for $80. Ordered an ignik firecan online after viewing it in person. That was all I bought after 3 days there. Only big purchase I am considering is an ALU-CAB tent. $4k seems reasonable for something of that quality. Would be funny to have a $4k tent on the vehicle I paid $1,600 for!
Man three days is commitment! Sort of wishing I stayed at expo this time for the full experience. You’re gonna be happy with the ignik I have one and it’s great for rainy days or fire bans. The alucab rtts are really nice. Check out bush company too, same quality but I think the price tag is a bit less!
Honestly I was pretty surprised by your conclusion. I personally couldn’t do it I have a thing with crowds lol. But I appreciate different experiences for different people. Your videos are always awesome I watch every one. Maybe I’ll run into you on one of our Arizona trails one day.
I’m not one for crowds either, this felt a little different as everyone there is somewhat relatable to in the niche. I didn’t want to completely shit on the expo, they do a really good job and I wanted people to see that. It’s not for me but I had to get the experience once!
Absolutely awesome experience for the 6 hours I was there. Was cool to meet the influencers too, really nice people. I do want to experience the camping portion of the event next year though
Thank you for your straight-up opinion. Its why I enjoy your channel.
I am new and not familiar with the Desert Armor compressor. What is your reason for selecting this as your option. I value your experience and advice.
FYI. I am currently building out a 2014 Ford e350 4 x 4 Super duty 15 passenger van.
I like the dual compressors for filling 35s, less than a minute a tire!
Camping on site is the awesome experience. I'm a solo traveler, but I will say that these expos are filled with people of the same cloth. I'm attending mountain west again this year, driving out from CT. I then explore out west for about a month.
I did buy a new 270 awning last year for like $300 off.
Highly recommend the camping experience.
I miss when this show was held in the mud at Mormon Lake Arizona. I’ve been going for a decade. Probably won’t go to the west expo again until I’m retired in a few years.
It’s a fun experience once, not sure if I’ll go again but I did enjoy seeing builds. I heard back in the lake Mary days there was a bit more freedom to the show
I've always been curious about attending an "Overland" expo. Living in NM, there's probably a couple good ones within a day's drive or so. I'm probably like you, where I don't like to spend money on my rig to keep up with others. I have a few mods, and really just want to get out and use what I can, and determine what I need/want after trial and error. It's nice to see your wife get more involved in your content! Awesome video, man!
Double like, WDO is for the people who actually enjoy the outdoors vs showing off trying to be the coolest and newest. 💪💯
My man, you know how we do it!
My wife and I went Friday (was a lot less crowded) and came to the same conclusion you did.
I've attended 40,000+ 4-day conferences, but I also pooped out after about 4 hrs, Lol. We're just beginning, so we wanted to check out what all the buzz was about. Learned a lot but didn't buy anything either bc the same day deals weren't impressive and the number of things to look at was overwhelming.
We didn't go for a second day, which Cody, is why we missed meeting you. We decided to check out a local trail on Saturday before heading back to Tucson.
Btw, unless Toyota is totally focused on just selling Tacomas, 4Runners, Tundras and Landcruisers to the overlanding crowd, they should make you an Ambassadorshio since you're already proving what a Rav4 can do and could probably help them sell a ton of them.
Looking forward to more good stuff from you brother!
Its fun to just go and walk around. Went yesterday and got another bag from adventure tool company, a badurie camp oven. Mostly just go to get ideas and to go and do something. Sundays are usually the best since most vendor's offer discounts.
I absolutely agree about using your trucks,,, I have friends who have put money into their trucks which they don't take out anywhere..where can I get one of your stickers.. I grew up about an hour east of Flagstaff in the tiny town of Winslow Az..love this video brother safe travels next weekend..
Thank you brother. I’d love to get you one of my stickers. Are you on Facebook Instagram or patreon? If we can figure out a way to message me your shipping info, I’d love to ship one your way. Just don’t want to put that on here publicly
Hey Cody. Sorry I missed you.
I just to see what's out there and available. Didnt buy anything. First one for me. I appreciate your simplistic view on equipment, life, and over landing. Keeping me humble. I found your spot out Shnebly point overlook, on side of hill above the road. Took pictures. Thank you for sharing as always love your effort and history of your travels.
I went to OE East in 2015 which was my 1st introduction to more offroad Adventuring. Then in 2017 went when I was actually in the process of building my rig. I have not been to one since but would go if I am in the vicinity of one. So - as you pointed out - they are a GREAT place to go to get Ideas. I found some of the courses where good and spending time in the campground with like minded folks was fun as well.
Lots of them shinny rigs get built for shows - Well to Show Off - I figure. If you would have walked to where the common folk are - ya might have got a way better flavor of the plethorah of rigs people bting to the show. Sometimes the real show is at camp. Unforutnately ya'll didn't do dat...
I had a bunch of buddies camping out, that’s definitely where the real show is at. Wishing I had camped out to get the full experience but too many people for myself. Was just there to showcase the actual expo and show grounds
@@Whitedogoverland Well - every now and again one needs to step away from the comfort zone and give her a try.
@TerryManitoba agreed
First time coming across your channel. Love how you call out the fluff but give honor where it’s due. I went a few years ago and loved it, but I’m a social butterfly lol. Hoping to hit PNW Expo this year instead of the Flagstaff. It’s not as big of an attendance so a bit more easy to consume and connect with people.
I was out there on Friday and I noticed the same thing you di, no overloading done by many of the rigs.
I agree with your wife on the Tune topper, It seemed roomier than others and very stout.
The potty scene was pretty funny! We haven't been to an expo, but would like to go at some point, most likely expo east. I want to see the rigs, get some ideas, and see some possibilities.
Nice vid brother. If I knew you were going I would have shared a beverage with you. I was posted up in the Four Wheel Campers area. Glad you enjoyed the expo.
Wish I knew you were there! It was pretty overwhelming, I was supposed to meet up with a handful of friends, never even saw a single one…
Unfortunately people now do believe car camping, and off-roading is the same thing as overlanding. It's not. It has its own name for a reason and it was not always this way.
For many decades prior to this one, needing to learn a foreign language and carrying your passport were non-negotiable requirements for every overlander. Having 4x4 in your vehicle was not! Many of us still believe these to be true.
Whether we like it or not, when things like this become mainstream, it loses all of its original meaning. That's where we've found ourselves today.
It was nice to see what's out there but some of the rigs are CRAZY! One mid size rig with a chassis camper was $300K? so $50K for the mid size truck and a quarter mil for an undersize box on what is np longer a truck.
I went this year because I had some time off, lots of really neat and super expensive built out rigs. I camp out of the back of my 10 thousand dollar Tacoma. To me personally having a 100 or 300 thousand dollar rig with queen mattress and chefs kitchen is nice but totally defeats the entire purpose of camping.
Also I paid 263 dollars for the admission which including 4 days of camping, I stayed just one day and one night, you can only see so many roof top tents and campers before it gets pretty old, glad I had a chance to check it out but I probably wouldn’t repeat
You aren’t kidding, I’m sure one night would be fun but if you just aren’t into all that gear I’m sure it’s redundant.
Rare to see someone in the scene that isnt just out shilling on everything. Hardly any one gives real reviews or is honest about gear, builds or these expos. I want to give ya props but driving a rav4 and obviously being a yota boy its really hard for me to do. Keep it up though.
Thanks man, I try to be real and minimalistic. I was in the same boat about the rav til I bought one, my tundra is fun but that car is way more fun and way cheaper to drive! 90% of the time I don’t need a real offroad rig so the rav is perfect and tundra comes out when I’m on trails that require low range
I love the Lone peak but I own a 2001 Grandby FWC but when I change it up , I dig the LP 🤘🤘
Hell ya! They’re sweet
@@Whitedogoverland doing the front end now on my Ram and paint next month then back to adventuring again 🥳👍
Overland expo crazy. Well done son. Love ya...
Looks cool to me. I dont know how much it was to get in and park but looks like fun. I am broke all the time too and work for a living. Those highly modified trucks are cool to look at but like you said they never take them out on the trail like countless other Tucson rigs I see on the road you can tell they never get out. Hey I like my clear coat too and my truck is stock with a camper shell but it does just fine and I try to take care of it. And my truck is 24 years old but it gets compliments all the time and didnt cost and arm and a leg. Simple 2000 gmc 1500 4x4 works great.
It’s funny you mention Tucson trucks, no one in this town uses their rig. All the coffee and crawler meets and Toyota meet ups are full of gear heads with no experience!
Overland Expo is honestly just a good time and excuse to stay off highway 17 going to and from Flag 🤙
Dude rollercam is fire. I love the straps and rope roller
Yeah dude those were sick. If I wasn’t such a cheap ass I might have bought some
As a first gen Sequoia owner, 11:55 warmed my heart lol
Love them!
17:35 what a view. wow
I enjoy your perspective on this "hobby? " I just get out and explore when I can.
I am totally with love looking at all the new gadgets. But dang the prices are out of this world. Question? I didn't see a lot of people approaching you which I like > I like your videos for their content not what your drive and what all cool things.. Should call you White Dog Minimalist Overland> LOL Keep up the Good work
It’s crazy what these places charge! I actually had about 35 people approach me, which was weird and totally not normal, not use to any sort of “fame”. I’m just a normal guy trying to cover all the bases and make enjoyable content for my fellow average dudes out there!
Hi Cody! Finally got around to watching this video. LOL! Overland Expo. Huh... Just doesn't really appeal to me. But I like your channel and content, so I figured if you took the time to document it, I would at least support you and thank you for confirming what I knew all along about shows like this. It's just not for me. I can't see how fancy, expensive gear could improve my outdoor experience. I'm out there for adventure, exploration, great memories, vibing with nature, and really I see no need for anything more than I already have, which is a well maintained rig, gear, and base camp setup. Yeah, people might think my junk is ghetto...beat up, old fashioned, whatever. But I really only care about where it takes me and brings me back from. The rest is just lining someone else's pocket and emptying mine. Don't get me wrong, I like gear, I'm just not enamored by it. LOL @ "Use your Trucks"! Haha!
You sound like me, I guess that’s why you follow my channel haha. Only need the essentials to have a good time. Stuff we acquire over the years that holds up and gets us where we’re going. Less is definitely more. I don’t sit in one spot too long so less to pack up the better!
Thank you for the video, however my husband and I thought that the expo was way to "commercial" and crowded for us. (our 4-year-old daughter did enjoy seeing the "big white dog" as usual). Again, thanks for sharing will see you on the next White Dog Overland adventure.😊
I sleep in my 4Runner but I do own a Jackery! Timmy C Arizona
Everything you said was true, but there were several aspects of the show that you totally missed. The vendor "tradeshow" part is the least interesting to me. Way too much ego and way to little innovation. You won't find many real deals either, but if you walk around late on Sunday, you can get some deals on stuff the vendors don't want to pack up and move. All I bought this year was a few patches. The real innovation is in the DIY rigs that show up. There is actually a DIY section of the show that you didn't even visit. Most of these guys are down to earth and happy to share ideas with you. If you are planning a build, a visit to this show is gold. There are also great free classes on just about any subject you could imagine, from suspension upgrades to radio comms. These are taught by what are essentially volunteers, many of whom are extremely knowledgeable. Some of the best meetups with people happen after hours. Walking around for a few hours and looking at vendor displays doesn't reveal any of this. I would suggest you take the leap, and do the whole weekend next year. My guess is that you will come away with a whole new perspective
I definitely missed out on the full experience not camping. I do have several friends who hangout in the camping section with a lot of the diy rigs, I stopped by a few but didn’t film was just catching up with friends. Saw some really cool stuff and talked to a few guys, that’s more of my scene obviously but I should have included the non commercial side of the event. Maybe next year
Loving my Lone Peak!
We went Saturday and Sunday, 1st time. I wish I would have waited for Overland Expo West to buy a few items, I could have saved a few hundred dollars on some items I recently purchased. Also found some great alternatives to the $50k trailers. You see some latest gear and yes, some of it is very repetitive.
Sorry to see you fall of the wagon. I still have no interest to go to these expos. Every time I see; quickly skip through, the videos it reinforces the no regret feeling. My personal experience with most of these products is that at campfire sip and bitch they become show and tell and waste of space for weekend warriors. I guess if it floats your boat then keep on keeping on. I just SUBSCRIBED thanks to your seeming honesty.
I won’t be going back. This video was made for those who know my sarcasm when it comes to this type of stuff. I have no interest in gear, I was invited as media so I had to take the opportunity
Well said, there was a load of stuff being sold to people for Overlanding (vehicle camping).
I’m lucky to live in the land of milk and honey and freedom down under, where we can still buy a simple new four-wheel-drive Land Cruiser 78 Troopy and add a fridge, bed, toilet, In cooking setup with the most basic equipment.
Instead of spending all the money, it’s about getting out there and doing it .
You may notice my brand name this is because I’m an ex Africa Overland driver (1990’s) and European/Scandinavia camping adventure tour driver (1993 - 1998 ish).
Man to overland Africa, that would be a once and a lifetime experience. Cheers to that!
Hi @@Whitedogoverland I have worked as a co-driver once and have later on been on 24 hours stand by when driving about Europe.
But it was a far better experience cycling from Cairo, Egypt to Cape Town on a bicycle because of the people connections and meeting along the way.
Unfortunately, because of sickness I got flown ahead of Northern Sudan and got the world’s best treatment in Nairobi Kenya.
Another story ..
Life about having adventures, not being scared to go out and do it
Great Video!
Thank you brother
Last year a content creator was invited to the expo and he said it was like a competition to see how expensive you can make camping.
First time I went to Expo West was like 2012. Been back 4-5 times. My wife and I took motorcycle training there one year. Not sure why folks are down on it, these are all your people.
Also, before overland TH-cam, there was the overland expo film festival. Laugh at the funny stuff, enjoy the community.
What's not to like?
Crazy money in that stuff
Love the honest take and couldn’t agree more 🤙🏼
I have a 2010 tundra .. and really want a Lone Peak myself.
They’re top notch for the price. Something I could justify
Lots of GEAR.
I’m the only TH-camr to interview a toilet paper vendor lol.
Find me one of those four wheel campers, they quit making them for blazers 😭
My yota crawler gets Dobinsons and my rally car gets flatout I won’t run anything else unless I get paid to
I've been 6 years in a row and just got back from this year. This will be my last mainly because I'm full-time and starting my drive to Argentina in June. My opinion is it's all Junk and extremely overpriced . I've never bought anything at the show. Being full-time, nothing at the show is something that I would carry with me as I start my world travels . The show is awesome. Don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day, it's overpriced junk. Example a ammo can fire pit for 300 bucks you can make for 25 bucks 😂😂😂 and do you really need it in the first place. Ppl get low quality recovery gear from Rhino China....I mean Rhino USA that WILL fail. Might be the cheapest items money wise at the show but recovery gear I don't get cheap on, especially since I go extremely remote for weeks.
Found your channel recently and really love it and sub’d! Love that you show a scaled-down (“ghetto” 😂) version and what can be done with basic equipment and a little brains. Agree with your take on the expo… it was fun once and most of the stuff was way expensive for gear… swag was good tho. Another option for kayaks, check out Oru. I’ve had high end inflatable (lasted a year) and hard shell (lasted a year)… Oru is kinda the best of both options (light, portable, durable and no air required). ✌️😎🏜️
Bad ass dude appreciate the insight in the kayaks I’ll check them out. And also appreciate the sun and support!
These used to also be largely about learning new knowledge about overland travel, and the vendors were the sideshow. Looks like that model has completely flipped.
Yeah it’s definitely a commercialized gathering now. They still hold their classes and crash courses for beginners but that’s not the main focus anymore
Wow brother you were super negative in this video for at least the first 5 minutes. Typically you have an amazing upbeat attitude in your videos. You should not do another one of these if you are feeling so down. Anyways, I love your channel and your content. Take it easy brother
That’s my dry humor, it doesn’t translate into video format well haha. I may have actually been down, it wasn’t camping like I’m used to and the amount of people I was around just didn’t give me the peace I usually find out there
I think the reality of trading in a sweet Rock Warrior Tundra for a Rav4 is finally setting in. 😅
Pua! Hey I know that Dogo! 😂
Hahaha loved it. Never going 😅
#makejeansgreatagain!!
Might need that as a sticker
What do you do with your tundra?
What's up just subscribed came across your video thought we jump in and say hi and you know that parking red zone parking media parking now skip all that should be called TH-camrs parking LOL that makes more sense
Worst weekend in Flagstaff every year. A bunch of overweight guys with overpriced rigs that think they need to buy something else in order to finally get off road. I avoid it every year and luckily never run into most of them when I’m out in the backcountry. Your RAV4 is the best setup.
You nailed the demographic, I couldn’t say it in the video so I’m glad you did. Hahaha. Appreciate it man, I love this rav, simple is all I need. Not a single simple rig at the entire expo show ground. The real show is over at the camping section (mostly). Some of those guys don’t just talk about it but they are about it
Link for those shades.😎
Only made it half way. Soooo many negative vibes from you. Such a downer. Best thing about the expo is the excitement and sharing ideas.
I’m curious if your new to the channel, that’s a mix of my dry humor and personal lack of excitement for the expo. It’s not my thing, I’m not into gear and the norms of the hobby and that many people surrounding me.
You only walked by us twice literally lol
I’m a dumbass, the compressor I bought was a booth like 2 rows over from you guys.
Overland? Over-priced.
Props to your video but I build my own stuff.
Forsure. My tundra build was either second hand on market place or fabbed myself. Learning is the best part of projects as well
People done lost their minds with the prices on these overland gadgets.
All this to realistically drive on dirt roads..
Hey man, forest roads are TECHNICAL. Most people don’t realize it’s just car camping. Lol.
I'd rather hear you describe what you like about different rigs and approaches... your negativity is continuous and boring.
Clearly didn’t watch the whole video
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Dude i was watching another video
This crap is so over priced. Dudes selling small speakers for 300 plus... i dont get it
This dude is a buzz kill, just sounds like you complained for the 4 hours you were there. It was exactly what you were expecting and yet you still complain about it.
You’re just upset cuz you’re the epitome of expo if I had to guess
Bro No offense but does your wife have a sister damn!
Haha dude no offense taken, she does have a sister but she too is married lol
ok get a gimble! your video made me seasick! move the camera slower too geeeeeeez
Had my stabilization setting off!
such a negative attitude, so bailed after 6 min...
Nice!
Industry went in the deep end.
Yeah no kidding. I don’t care what people spend their money on, but company’s like to take advantage of new comers and they get the wrong impression!
All overpriced crap!
Clout Chasing Influencers 🫣
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@@Whitedogoverland I have a story to tell you about one of those……………..
@jonnytacooutdoors could I be the time that three of them met up for a week in the Az desert?!
@@Whitedogoverland it happened right after our rendezvous
......spicy. lol 😆