Sylar was stupid. He died at the end of season 1 and was only brought back by direct orders of the studio executives due to his popularity. They fucked up his writing for 3 entire seasons, going from one cringefest to the next.
My understanding is there was a writers strike in the mid 2000s, which is why TV went from being good (like Heroes) to being mostly reality shows- because you don't need writers for reality shows.
Season 4 at least felt cohesive, unlike seasons 2 and 3. It wasn't the same but it wasn't random twists with no real plot and the ending was ok, relative to the endings a lot of shows get, anyway.
“In a way I wish you were”. Oddly the two of them actually belong together in terms of mother and son. She’s the ruthless maternal figure who wants to see his dark powers unleashed, and he’s a driven unstoppable powerhouse she can use. Twisted and fitting.
@@blaze6477 Yeah it was! Season three had to be redone almost on top of production times! Believe me, the writers bailing caused damage that the show couldn't recover from! That and they didn't seem to know what to do with Sylar after awhile. He was the villain that was more popular then the heroes!
So it says its their final face off, yet most of the video Claire isn't even there, then she hits him from behind? That's not a face off, that's a 5-10 second sneak attack
@@Dx-so7jm For real, she thinks she has killed him but then he comes back to life and reveals that somehow he moved the part of his brain that would make him die to a different place of his head. Sylar was such a great character but the show suffered a lot from not having him die at the end of S1
@@Lezdethka-np2bq how would she get new powers though? The only ones that really had multiple powers was sylar because he stole most of them after killing them and Peter that had the ability to absorb others powers when being near them. Well I guess Arthur too since he could completly steal peoples powers by touching them.
@@Lezdethka-np2bq The latter seasons just needed better organization/writting. New powers wouldn't have solved anything. Having two overpowered people (Peter and Sylar) was already a challegne for the writers to deal with.
@@skydreamer4225 I liked the first half of Season 3, Arthur was a cool villain, my only issue was that I wish that when he died Peter would get back his Empathic Mimicry.
To me, what killed the show was Arthur Petrelli powerdrains Hiro Nakamura As I finds this karmic I make Hiro refuse to become villain when I make this show follows alternate timeline
@@skydreamer4225 The writers strike wasn’t going on through all of the seasons of the show. They didn’t realize the potential they had with a Peter vs Sylar story and they squandered it
I hated how they went back and made Sylar not a brother to Peter and Nathan. I felt it would have opened up more for their relationships. Having Sylar as a Petrelli made so much sense with his similar powers to Peter, Arthur, and later, Claire's son.
@@Lezdethka-np2bq crazy how out of all the powers Claire son could the had he ended up with powers like her grandfather which wasn't good for her. His son however could only hold one power at a time.
This show had so much potential. The writers strike, the way too long seasons, the delay in story telling - dragging out character building. Too many people to include. To many confusing plotlines, but I love it. It was everything at the time. Waiting each week to watch it, waiting through seasons. But the writing became convoluted, and story telling becauame cumbersome. It should be relaunched with an entirely new case, writers and commitment.
I wish they brought this back or is this even on Netflix (UK) I’d love to watch it again, instead I’m on Netflix watching sense8 which is just a full on copy but weird when they all come together
Good Writing.. he wanted Claires power so he could never die, but Claire had an off switch, that only she and two other people knew about.. so by stealing her powers she made him the perfect villain, but he made her the perfect foil... Yep.. they don't make them like this anymore!
then suddenly he got worried about dying alone? then didnt want the powers anymore. its all fuzzy to me. they tried to give him humanity but he still killed that blonde lady then seemed a bit regretful. he even was trying to romance claire and talking about building bridges but in the next ep killed her father. he insisted no one changes but then they made him want to give up his powers. it did seem he was normal before the powers? not sure, just far too much to go through again.
@@GotoMaki4Micah Later in the series he mentions it's like an addiction thing that's hard to control, he wanted powers, but didn't really go out of his was to kill regular people. Like when Peter lost his powers he told him not to worry he doesn't want to kill him because there's nothing to gain from it. The writers strike during this time kind of made the series go all over the place
@@GotoMaki4MicahHe didn't kill Claire's father. Claire's father was killed by channeling his grandson's power through himself in Heroes Reborn. Clair was dead by that point, as her son was a power thief, and she got caught in an explosion just after giving birth.
@Radikus Before that point, Sylar COULDN'T have killed Peter anyway. The funny thing was that Sylar DID have Peter's power all along. Buy by getting powers that way, he had to emphasize with the person and learn to use their power. He didn't have the patience for that and found it MUCH more convenient just to open their skulls and examine their brains.
At 3:38 it looks as if he is Force-choking her (sorry, wrong franchise 😁)... At any rate, I've never seen this series (I am not even sure whether it's available here in Germany) but I know Zachary Quinto from the Star Trek movies...He's a terrific actor, I think, even judging from this brief scene. They should give him a role as a villain in the next Bond movie!
@glennherron9499 yeah. It’s okay. Just not quite the same. Maybe because it’s nothing new… the concepts in general have been done. But good suggestion thanks.
Only if they could give claire like telekinesis or that lightning powers she would be unstoppable! She wanted to help most of the time and she cant be hurt so that's for defense she only need offense powers so telekinesis would be so great.
she can be hurt, she just heals. might seem like splitting hairs but it's not. she's not invulnerable, she can be hurt, she can be tortured, she can be incapacitated as easily as anyone else, she is as vulnerable as anyone else, she just doesn't die.
@@baneblackguard584 no in some episode, i forgot what part or what season but she said after sylar did something to her she couldn't feel pain afterwards.. she doesn't feel anything anymore, and her limbs would grow back if you cut them off so yeah
She's like Jack Harkness from Doctor Who ... He can't be killed but he 'can die'... she experiences pain 100%... just she heals whatever is damaged faster than the pain can probably bother her for long... but she WOULD feel getting hit by a Train .... just it'd take her a minute to 'reconstitute'.
@@NtoTheM true also 1. Me maybe evil with some limits. When he copied Issac Mendez precognition, he saw that he may be responsible for killing millions of people in the future but he thought that it was senseless. He had no reason to kill people with no ability 2. When he realized that he just want love and a sense of belonging, he just wanted to stop killing
@@thullraven1 that's a good point. In the end, he still consciousnessly chose to do all those things. 1. That hunger thing cane in like in season 3 2. I just remembered that after he learned to replicate powers without killing, he still chose to kill
Yes, people complained about a random with no connection to the villain turning up to finish him off. Are you comparing it to this, where a girl who was tortured and hunted by this guy for three seasons saves her grandmother from him by stabbing him in the skull?
Considering what Sylar put her through at that point she was well beyond utterly cold to his desires or feelings The show kind implied that given enough time for her ability to grow deeprr she would just feel nothing at all, no pain and no emotion. Just a cold emotionless killer even worse than Sylar, who at least initially only killed as a side effect of feeding his hunger to 'know' more abilities.
Clair should have mutated again. When sylar mentions she's special that even he couldnt kill her. then she dies to bs in the trash heros reborn. wastes potential
Hayden Panettiere was still working on Nashville at the time. They shouldn't have killed her off screen though. That probably killed the spin off more then anything!
The title of this video is a lie. It was not Sylar and Claire's final face-off. She did not face him. She's hardly even in this video, and she stabs him in the back. It's things like this that made me stop watching the series about halfway through the first season. I've considered giving it another shot. There ARE other shows I've enjoyed binge watching more than one. This is NOT going to be one of them!
Heroes first season was superb storytelling and keep you on the edge at the end of each episode wanting for more…unfortunately the subsequent season doesnt delve deeper into the mysteries initiated in season 1 and just sidetrack too much into other story arc/villain which I just dont care much about..even towards the end was still hoping they close the loose ends hinted in season 1 but they never did and it kinda disappointing not knowing what happened to future Hiro, Peter etc
Metal or glass doesn't matter. What matters is severing the brain stem and removing his head - which as shown in Angela's vision would be enough to kill even Claire (and by extension her likely ancesotr Adam).
the first season of this show was one of the best first seasons of ANY show. it fell so hard. sylar was an incredible character.
Sylar was stupid. He died at the end of season 1 and was only brought back by direct orders of the studio executives due to his popularity. They fucked up his writing for 3 entire seasons, going from one cringefest to the next.
Yep, like the manipulative villain in Jessica Jones season one. You just can't forget them.
Season 1 of this show was incredible. Unfortunately the writers strike destroyed it and after it was never the same.
What writers strike lol
My understanding is there was a writers strike in the mid 2000s, which is why TV went from being good (like Heroes) to being mostly reality shows- because you don't need writers for reality shows.
Season 4 at least felt cohesive, unlike seasons 2 and 3. It wasn't the same but it wasn't random twists with no real plot and the ending was ok, relative to the endings a lot of shows get, anyway.
@@madgemackles4337there was a writer’s strike in 2007 and 2008 which affected many shows including Heroes.
This show is at least 10 years old pre current strike just try to get your facts straight before make your self look dumber than you really are
I absolutely loved Sylar. Such a good character and powerfully performed.
And so terribly, TERRIBLY mishandled in so many ways.
“In a way I wish you were”. Oddly the two of them actually belong together in terms of mother and son. She’s the ruthless maternal figure who wants to see his dark powers unleashed, and he’s a driven unstoppable powerhouse she can use. Twisted and fitting.
I remember watching this show. I would binge every episode when it was on Netflix. The stories of each character was so good. At first lol
I love this show. I still does. But remembering how the writers managed to sabotage their own show, is just sucked. So much potential.
To be fair, the writers strike is what ruined this show.
Exactly
@@blaze6477 Yeah it was! Season three had to be redone almost on top of production times! Believe me, the writers bailing caused damage that the show couldn't recover from!
That and they didn't seem to know what to do with Sylar after awhile. He was the villain that was more popular then the heroes!
@@blaze6477 sylar wasn't ruined tho
I still does too
So it says its their final face off, yet most of the video Claire isn't even there, then she hits him from behind? That's not a face off, that's a 5-10 second sneak attack
True. I think only face off was with Peter
Also: he survives this and is alive like two seconds later
@@brizuelasergioo are u serious lol. Jesus
@@Dx-so7jm For real, she thinks she has killed him but then he comes back to life and reveals that somehow he moved the part of his brain that would make him die to a different place of his head.
Sylar was such a great character but the show suffered a lot from not having him die at the end of S1
@@brizuelasergioo omg , I loved first 2 seasons and stopped because they canceled it , seems there was a reason , oh boy
Never a more perfect time for someone to yell, "You can't handle the truth!"
I did :D
Man I wish would've lasted longer. I wanted more Sylar and Claire clash.
She needed new powers. Just healing is old news.
@@Lezdethka-np2bq how would she get new powers though? The only ones that really had multiple powers was sylar because he stole most of them after killing them and Peter that had the ability to absorb others powers when being near them. Well I guess Arthur too since he could completly steal peoples powers by touching them.
@@MelvinNilsson-uk8js I'm wondering if he stole the black guy powers. Forget his name but his daughter was Isacc girlfriend.
@@Lezdethka-np2bq The latter seasons just needed better organization/writting. New powers wouldn't have solved anything. Having two overpowered people (Peter and Sylar) was already a challegne for the writers to deal with.
Does any one else feel like Sylar and Claire kind of give you the same dynamic as Michael Myers and Laurie Strode? 😂
season 1 was amazing
Agree. Writer's Strike killed the show.
@@skydreamer4225 I liked the first half of Season 3, Arthur was a cool villain, my only issue was that I wish that when he died Peter would get back his Empathic Mimicry.
To me, what killed the show was Arthur Petrelli powerdrains Hiro Nakamura
As I finds this karmic I make Hiro refuse to become villain when I make this show follows alternate timeline
It was perfect
@@skydreamer4225 The writers strike wasn’t going on through all of the seasons of the show. They didn’t realize the potential they had with a Peter vs Sylar story and they squandered it
I hated how they went back and made Sylar not a brother to Peter and Nathan. I felt it would have opened up more for their relationships. Having Sylar as a Petrelli made so much sense with his similar powers to Peter, Arthur, and later, Claire's son.
Making him related was dumb. Too many no skill broken characters in 1 family.also 2 redundant powers that do the same thing
@@Lezdethka-np2bq crazy how out of all the powers Claire son could the had he ended up with powers like her grandfather which wasn't good for her. His son however could only hold one power at a time.
I was gutted when it ended! It was such a good show!
This was the best entrance Claire ever had in this series.
At the end of the first season, I asked myself: “How did they turn first and goal into a safety?”
I love hearing sue landers powers
And the heroes theme
This show had so much potential. The writers strike, the way too long seasons, the delay in story telling - dragging out character building. Too many people to include. To many confusing plotlines, but I love it. It was everything at the time. Waiting each week to watch it, waiting through seasons. But the writing became convoluted, and story telling becauame cumbersome. It should be relaunched with an entirely new case, writers and commitment.
Perfect course in “”How to wright yourself out of a job 101.” 😂😂😂
I wish they brought this back or is this even on Netflix (UK) I’d love to watch it again, instead I’m on Netflix watching sense8 which is just a full on copy but weird when they all come together
It's on BBC iplayer for free in the UK
@@no-one2961 thank you G
Sense8 is the version with a progressive agenda of Heroes, lol.
Lmao LGBT clowns
Good Writing.. he wanted Claires power so he could never die, but Claire had an off switch, that only she and two other people knew about.. so by stealing her powers she made him the perfect villain, but he made her the perfect foil... Yep.. they don't make them like this anymore!
then suddenly he got worried about dying alone? then didnt want the powers anymore. its all fuzzy to me. they tried to give him humanity but he still killed that blonde lady then seemed a bit regretful. he even was trying to romance claire and talking about building bridges but in the next ep killed her father. he insisted no one changes but then they made him want to give up his powers. it did seem he was normal before the powers? not sure, just far too much to go through again.
@@GotoMaki4Micah Later in the series he mentions it's like an addiction thing that's hard to control, he wanted powers, but didn't really go out of his was to kill regular people. Like when Peter lost his powers he told him not to worry he doesn't want to kill him because there's nothing to gain from it. The writers strike during this time kind of made the series go all over the place
@@GotoMaki4MicahHe didn't kill Claire's father. Claire's father was killed by channeling his grandson's power through himself in Heroes Reborn. Clair was dead by that point, as her son was a power thief, and she got caught in an explosion just after giving birth.
@Radikus Before that point, Sylar COULDN'T have killed Peter anyway. The funny thing was that Sylar DID have Peter's power all along. Buy by getting powers that way, he had to emphasize with the person and learn to use their power. He didn't have the patience for that and found it MUCH more convenient just to open their skulls and examine their brains.
They ALL had that weak spot. Later, once Sylar became a shape changer, he MOVED his spot so it wasn't at the base of his skull anymore.
I love this show myself....ive been watching them film since 2009. Gotta love that girl clair😎🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
Claire was literally THE WORST. Anytime she got a chance where she could make a terrible decision- she was all over that sh*t.
wish this show would come back on 😔
At 3:38 it looks as if he is Force-choking her (sorry, wrong franchise 😁)...
At any rate, I've never seen this series (I am not even sure whether it's available here in Germany) but I know Zachary Quinto from the Star Trek movies...He's a terrific actor, I think, even judging from this brief scene. They should give him a role as a villain in the next Bond movie!
now we know why Spock suppresses his emotions... he's a friggin' psycho.
I really liked this show and the 4400. I was bummed when they ended.
@glennherron9499 yeah. It’s okay. Just not quite the same. Maybe because it’s nothing new… the concepts in general have been done. But good suggestion thanks.
Only if they could give claire like telekinesis or that lightning powers she would be unstoppable! She wanted to help most of the time and she cant be hurt so that's for defense she only need offense powers so telekinesis would be so great.
she can be hurt, she just heals. might seem like splitting hairs but it's not. she's not invulnerable, she can be hurt, she can be tortured, she can be incapacitated as easily as anyone else, she is as vulnerable as anyone else, she just doesn't die.
@@baneblackguard584 no in some episode, i forgot what part or what season but she said after sylar did something to her she couldn't feel pain afterwards.. she doesn't feel anything anymore, and her limbs would grow back if you cut them off so yeah
@baneblackguard584 - So Wolverine with no strength, fighting skills, or agility. Wolverine if he was just a Cheerleader.
they couldve made her at least learn some fighting moves or learn how to use weapons
She's like Jack Harkness from Doctor Who ... He can't be killed but he 'can die'... she experiences pain 100%... just she heals whatever is damaged faster than the pain can probably bother her for long... but she WOULD feel getting hit by a Train .... just it'd take her a minute to 'reconstitute'.
This had potential to be great but like other great thing, it all must come to an end but this one... hit a a mud slide down the hill too soon.
Sylar is basically Dexter Morgan if he was an Evil Super Villain
I miss heroes. Season 3 was my favorite
Season 3 was a banger. I agree.
É maravilhoso reencontrar essa série
The fact that Sylar is begging for some goodness in this world tells me that despite the horrible things he has done, he isnt evil. He is just twisted
No he is.
Calling him evil is difficult when his power is basically forcing an addiction to kill onto him.
@@NtoTheM true also
1. Me maybe evil with some limits. When he copied Issac Mendez precognition, he saw that he may be responsible for killing millions of people in the future but he thought that it was senseless. He had no reason to kill people with no ability
2. When he realized that he just want love and a sense of belonging, he just wanted to stop killing
Umm...Yeah, he's twisted. He's also evil. Being twisted made him evil and if he willingly does evil things like he did, he's evil. It's that simple.
@@thullraven1 that's a good point. In the end, he still consciousnessly chose to do all those things.
1. That hunger thing cane in like in season 3
2. I just remembered that after he learned to replicate powers without killing, he still chose to kill
What a nice "face-off". lol
hyden panettiere skin on this show was legendary !
Face off, as in “her face was off screen for 99% of the time”?
It's not really a face off if they don't actually face off
The first series with cool future Hiro and then superhero war...it had so much potential, and then season 2 happened. 😬🙄
Stings doesn't it
Couldn't be less of a 'face off'
Love 💕 movie
All the pain he caused, he died way too lenient. He deserved to suffer before he died.
He never died.
"If you kill me you'll never know who your real parents are!"
Ya, cuz in that world, adoption agencies don't save data. lol.
And people complained about Arya and the night king?
Yes, people complained about a random with no connection to the villain turning up to finish him off. Are you comparing it to this, where a girl who was tortured and hunted by this guy for three seasons saves her grandmother from him by stabbing him in the skull?
I thought the face off was when Sylar cuts Claire's skull and copies her powers and they're both indestructible.
How could she stabbed him after words ‘I WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH’ 😮
Considering what Sylar put her through at that point she was well beyond utterly cold to his desires or feelings
The show kind implied that given enough time for her ability to grow deeprr she would just feel nothing at all, no pain and no emotion.
Just a cold emotionless killer even worse than Sylar, who at least initially only killed as a side effect of feeding his hunger to 'know' more abilities.
Clair should have mutated again. When sylar mentions she's special that even he couldnt kill her. then she dies to bs in the trash heros reborn. wastes potential
Hayden Panettiere was still working on Nashville at the time. They shouldn't have killed her off screen though. That probably killed the spin off more then anything!
@@joeyellis850 exactly
I remember thinking she'll never have to worry about dying during childbirth. Man I was wrong.
That is, unless that was a lie.
Face-off = stab the enemy in the back while the don’t know your even there
I wish Angela had turned out to be his aunt
I thought she probably would be. Sylar did resemble her older son in my opinion.
Sylar moves his weakness like kung fu master
How come syler never made it big in Hollywood
You mean his actor Zachary Quinto who has been in big hollywood movies? Are you tripping?
@@Cyb3rM1nd Star trek and hitman that's it .
The title of this video is a lie. It was not Sylar and Claire's final face-off. She did not face him. She's hardly even in this video, and she stabs him in the back. It's things like this that made me stop watching the series about halfway through the first season. I've considered giving it another shot. There ARE other shows I've enjoyed binge watching more than one. This is NOT going to be one of them!
Heroes first season was superb storytelling and keep you on the edge at the end of each episode wanting for more…unfortunately the subsequent season doesnt delve deeper into the mysteries initiated in season 1 and just sidetrack too much into other story arc/villain which I just dont care much about..even towards the end was still hoping they close the loose ends hinted in season 1 but they never did and it kinda disappointing not knowing what happened to future Hiro, Peter etc
Shortest face off in history in which one wasn't even aware of it lmao such a wrong title for this scene.
Wrong clip
why did the killed Claire Bennet didn't make sense
How did sylar didn't notice Claire
Mabye because he was so focused on Angela. And keep in mind he lost his super hearing ability he got from season 1 because of the shanti virus.
Is that .... Trinity?
Heroes, No Ordinary Family, Believe and so many others that had potential, just abandoned :( Shame
save the cheerleader save the world
Not uh .... much of a 'face-off' if he didn't even see her... and there's really no 'fight' is there? Clickbait for those who haven't seen the show.
The first season was so fucking fire, but the writers strike killed this show.
Absolutely brilliant show until they destroyed it🤦♂️
I loved this show! That newer mini series was garbage
I forgot that Tina Fey was on Heroes.
If Claire stabs Sylar with metal knife instead of Glass, he can stay dead
Metal or glass doesn't matter.
What matters is severing the brain stem and removing his head - which as shown in Angela's vision would be enough to kill even Claire (and by extension her likely ancesotr Adam).
the writing got so bad so fast.
What the hell ?
I loved this show they ruined it😢
Is that it? Is that the whole final face off? I had to wait 3 minutes for that? Anticlimactic.
Save the vv]-[○re cheerleader, save the plot.
Loved this show. Saw sad when the writers strike made it a mess.
only season one was good. the rest was trash