I think the reason why Sarafina isn't present after Scar became king is because she probably died from starvation since there was a drought without food or water and maybe that's what led Nala to go find help, because Sarafina was her mother. Also i think Mheetu was born in the same litter as Nala because if Scar became mates with Sarafina it would make Nala and Simba half-cousins because back then Scar and Mufasa used to be brothers but it was retconned due to the Mufasa movie where they are adoptive brothers
OR....WHAT IF Kovu is the secret love child of Scar and SARAFINA, rather than Sarabi, and he was taken to the Outlands when Simba de-throned Scar as the imposter king, and took his place as the true king of the Pride Lands and banished the lionesses to the Outlands who were loyal to Scar, including Zira and Zira raised the cub after Sarafina died. Of course, any cub of Scar's was not going to be allowed to remain in the royal family and while we DO see Nala and Sarabi greet Simba when Simba comes back we DO NOT see Sarafina. Maybe that's also why Nala left...because her Mom was taken by Scar, as his Queen, and she left to protect herself and find help.
@@CeltycSparrow Good theory but I don't think so because Disney confirmed that Scar isn't Kovu's father cuz it would make Kovu and Kiara second cousins, also if Sarafina was Kovu's father then it would make him Kiara's uncle since Sarafina is also Nala's mother
In the sequel, there was a lioness very similar in appearance to Sarafina.She was the lioness who says, "My how you've grown" when Kiara goes on her first hunt. The actress who played Sarafina in the first movie is the same actress who played the unconfirmed character.
A very interesting theory well done, but you know I find interesting if that if all this did happen Scar and Sarafina did get together, love each other and did have Mheetu, the result after the battle would be something to see, because imagine after Scar falls off pride rock and Simba hears Mheetu say well the same thing he said when his dad fell, because even though Scar crime was reveled he still Mheetu dad and well Simba will have another problem to deal with because unlike him Mheetu would have seen the whole thing and well maybe Mheetu will vow revenge.
Since we don’t see Sarafina or Zera, or Zira’s cubs during the battle for Pride Rock, it is possible they were hidden somewhere in order to keep their cubs safe. Male lions are prone to killing any cubs they didn’t sire when they take over. Simba didn’t do this, that we know of, but I can see it as a fear. Sarafina could have seen a strange, and physically stronger looking lion come towards Pride Rock and immediately gathered Zira, their cubs and booked it. Maybe with the intention of checking back later to see who won, or taking it as a sign to leave. According to the sequel, Zira at least checked back, discovered Simba in charge and Scar dead and proceeds to blame Simba for everything. Sarafina might have been killed by Zira when she didn’t dislike Simba enough, or she could have split from the fanatical Zira before the banishment, taking her chances out alone verse staying to see if the new king would let her cub live. I think I like the idea of Nala’s mother still out there, with an adult son, or just the son and having a Black Panther situation where he could come back and be all “Hey auntie “, and have a whole discussion about Succession and family , get a bit more the pitiful backstory to Scar and his side of things before he was driven off the deep end, have the son be updated on the acts Scar did to become king. His ruling methodology . Very duet leaving it up to the audience on who is right, dose might make right, order of birth , or competence heart and intelligence? Ultimately the son wouldn’t be another Zira, or Killmounger, but just want the best lion to rule . A check to balance Simba’s ego or his too eager to follow traditions bc father shadow. Afterall Sarafina seemed pretty level headed but not too formal, she probably would have raised any cub to be similar .
I think sarafina and scar did have a cub and sarafina did not turn her back to scar but instead when simba returned in fear for the cub she took him and run to protect him from simba and killing the cub
I thought the darke a lion's mane the more romantic they are? Scar's mane was super dark, the ladies should have been all over him. Why doesn't disney do research before making films based on real animans?
The darker a lion's mane is, the more attractive most lionesses find him to be. The snag is, his darker mane might also be more visible within the savannah grass and harder to camouflage.
Kovu isn't scars son but his design is rather interesting knowing that, makes you wonder who is the father to kovu and his siblings like Nooka (not sure if I spelled his name right) who is much older than kovu but still looks like scar but if he was not in the best health and is starved. I think lion king should have comics made But comics that are targeted to a slightly older Audience that way for those who want to know some of these mistorys thay can tell us but without worrying about it being to dark for kids since it's a comic and not a movie.
I like the idea that Saraphina and Scar had a relationship. Whether she really loved him or not. I would think she would keep it secret from Nala. Zira would be sooo ticked off at this. You know she would know about it. She sent Vitani to spy on Kovu, so why wouldn't she send one of her lionesses to spy on Scar? She was obsessed with him after all.
@@martinmatejka4190 Ah. But according to some theories, Nala has a younger sister named Nadra, daughter of both her own parents. But she could possibly be seen only in some scene of the two movies(remembering that she is still an uncanon character).
Too bad the 2019 version didn't decide to do this or make Kopa canon! That was such a missed opportunity come on Disney you have so much lore you could add on to the story why waste it!?
That's why Zira was the way she was! She might have been jealous of Scar and Sarafina's growing relationship and why Vitani acted the way she did to Nala in the sequel.🫢😲😲🤯🤯
If this doesn't wake everybody up you're wrong a lion will always be a lion no matter how evil or bad he wants to become there's a heart in there somewhere no lion or lioness is actually spared
Sarafina and Scar were more then friends when they were cubs they fell in love but when Scar got his scar from his father he started to act different like no one loves him or cared for him Sarafina was the only one who loved him and cared about clearly Nala had no idea that her mother had feelings for Scar
Maybe she was one of the lionnesses who fought the hyenas or Zira might have become jealous of Mheetu wanting one of her children to inherit the throne and we saw a lioness help Sarabi maybe that lion is Sarafina
I like the idea of scar being Nala dad and all but in a deleted scene in the lion king, scar sings a song about how he needs too make “Nala my QUEEN” so it is u luckily scar would be nalas father
I think the reason why Sarafina isn't present after Scar became king is because she probably died from starvation since there was a drought without food or water and maybe that's what led Nala to go find help, because Sarafina was her mother. Also i think Mheetu was born in the same litter as Nala because if Scar became mates with Sarafina it would make Nala and Simba half-cousins because back then Scar and Mufasa used to be brothers but it was retconned due to the Mufasa movie where they are adoptive brothers
OR....WHAT IF Kovu is the secret love child of Scar and SARAFINA, rather than Sarabi, and he was taken to the Outlands when Simba de-throned Scar as the imposter king, and took his place as the true king of the Pride Lands and banished the lionesses to the Outlands who were loyal to Scar, including Zira and Zira raised the cub after Sarafina died. Of course, any cub of Scar's was not going to be allowed to remain in the royal family and while we DO see Nala and Sarabi greet Simba when Simba comes back we DO NOT see Sarafina. Maybe that's also why Nala left...because her Mom was taken by Scar, as his Queen, and she left to protect herself and find help.
@@CeltycSparrow Good theory but I don't think so because Disney confirmed that Scar isn't Kovu's father cuz it would make Kovu and Kiara second cousins, also if Sarafina was Kovu's father then it would make him Kiara's uncle since Sarafina is also Nala's mother
@@ultraviolet5501 to add to what you said. In lion king 2 Nooka said scary wasn't his father.
@@i-spyprincesscat8919 I already know that, Kovu also says that himself in a deleted scene and when he was talking to Kiara about Scar
Dont you mean step-cousins?
In the sequel, there was a lioness very similar in appearance to Sarafina.She was the lioness who says, "My how you've grown" when Kiara goes on her first hunt.
The actress who played Sarafina in the first movie is the same actress who played the unconfirmed character.
There's a lot of theories in scenarios I just got to figure out which one is more real than the average story the Lion King itself
People have to remember that scar is super devious and devilish so no matter how much you slice it
Zira would've been SOOOO jealous of Sarafina if she was Scar's mate and not her
A very interesting theory well done, but you know I find interesting if that if all this did happen Scar and Sarafina did get together, love each other and did have Mheetu, the result after the battle would be something to see, because imagine after Scar falls off pride rock and Simba hears Mheetu say well the same thing he said when his dad fell, because even though Scar crime was reveled he still Mheetu dad and well Simba will have another problem to deal with because unlike him Mheetu would have seen the whole thing and well maybe Mheetu will vow revenge.
He's crazy wickedly evil devilish the question is what would he not do to keep him from going taking the throne before and after Mufasa's death
Since we don’t see Sarafina or Zera, or Zira’s cubs during the battle for Pride Rock, it is possible they were hidden somewhere in order to keep their cubs safe. Male lions are prone to killing any cubs they didn’t sire when they take over. Simba didn’t do this, that we know of, but I can see it as a fear. Sarafina could have seen a strange, and physically stronger looking lion come towards Pride Rock and immediately gathered Zira, their cubs and booked it. Maybe with the intention of checking back later to see who won, or taking it as a sign to leave. According to the sequel, Zira at least checked back, discovered Simba in charge and Scar dead and proceeds to blame Simba for everything. Sarafina might have been killed by Zira when she didn’t dislike Simba enough, or she could have split from the fanatical Zira before the banishment, taking her chances out alone verse staying to see if the new king would let her cub live.
I think I like the idea of Nala’s mother still out there, with an adult son, or just the son and having a Black Panther situation where he could come back and be all “Hey auntie “, and have a whole discussion about Succession and family , get a bit more the pitiful backstory to Scar and his side of things before he was driven off the deep end, have the son be updated on the acts Scar did to become king. His ruling methodology . Very duet leaving it up to the audience on who is right, dose might make right, order of birth , or competence heart and intelligence? Ultimately the son wouldn’t be another Zira, or Killmounger, but just want the best lion to rule . A check to balance Simba’s ego or his too eager to follow traditions bc father shadow. Afterall Sarafina seemed pretty level headed but not too formal, she probably would have raised any cub to be similar .
I think sarafina and scar did have a cub and sarafina did not turn her back to scar but instead when simba returned in fear for the cub she took him and run to protect him from simba and killing the cub
I thought the darke a lion's mane the more romantic they are? Scar's mane was super dark, the ladies should have been all over him. Why doesn't disney do research before making films based on real animans?
The darker a lion's mane is, the more attractive most lionesses find him to be.
The snag is, his darker mane might also be more visible within the savannah grass and harder to camouflage.
See we knew his true attentions from the very beginning that is true but if there was another side of this we are all sadly mistaken
I think Scar's son was repurposed into Kovu in the sequel As an adult he looks very similar to scar even having the same eyes and nose shape
Kovu isn't scars son but his design is rather interesting knowing that, makes you wonder who is the father to kovu and his siblings like Nooka (not sure if I spelled his name right) who is much older than kovu but still looks like scar but if he was not in the best health and is starved. I think lion king should have comics made
But comics that are targeted to a slightly older Audience that way for those who want to know some of these mistorys thay can tell us but without worrying about it being to dark for kids since it's a comic and not a movie.
I like the idea that Saraphina and Scar had a relationship. Whether she really loved him or not. I would think she would keep it secret from Nala. Zira would be sooo ticked off at this. You know she would know about it. She sent Vitani to spy on Kovu, so why wouldn't she send one of her lionesses to spy on Scar? She was obsessed with him after all.
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According to some theories, Nala had a younger sister named Nadra. She should be born before Mufasa's death.
Nadra IS early iteration of nala
@@martinmatejka4190 Ah. But according to some theories, Nala has a younger sister named Nadra, daughter of both her own parents. But she could possibly be seen only in some scene of the two movies(remembering that she is still an uncanon character).
I wonder if they turned his character into kovo from the second movie
Kovo stated in the movie that Scar was not his father, and Zira said that Scar picked him to become king.
Can I see more videos like this please more times
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Lion king two kinda poked a hole I. That logic cuz zeara was around and with scar when they were banished so…
I would have liked nala to have an older brother
You mean the lionness from the sequel
Too bad the 2019 version didn't decide to do this or make Kopa canon! That was such a missed opportunity come on Disney you have so much lore you could add on to the story why waste it!?
I believe she never loved him in the first place
zira is scars queen
What happened to Zera? She loves Scar
Wait- so if scars “queen” was nalas mom then doesn’t that make scar her dad- and would simba be her NEPHEW!?
Well stepdad maybe?
Simba and nala cousins
In marriage when saraphina and scar became king and queen
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why Zira was the way she was! She might have been jealous of Scar and Sarafina's growing relationship and why Vitani acted the way she did to Nala in the sequel.🫢😲😲🤯🤯
Scar will always be scar no matter what you say or do the dude is being straight up stuck up ever since we seen him
Has anybody hasn't been paying attention now is the time to wake up and look even more closer into scar
What do you mean?
Yeah What Do You Mean?????? 2:48
If this doesn't wake everybody up you're wrong a lion will always be a lion no matter how evil or bad he wants to become there's a heart in there somewhere no lion or lioness is actually spared
I actually always believed that Ni and Sarafina were Nala and Mheetu's parents.
Well that really would have made sense regardless on how you would put it
I would say give or take 4 to 5 women to make children With.
I would had liked Nala to have a younger brother in the movie
Sarafina and Scar were more then friends when they were cubs they fell in love but when Scar got his scar from his father he started to act different like no one loves him or cared for him Sarafina was the only one who loved him and cared about clearly Nala had no idea that her mother had feelings for Scar
What if Nala was Scar's daughter.
Ya that would be Vitani
Maybe she was one of the lionnesses who fought the hyenas or Zira might have become jealous of Mheetu wanting one of her children to inherit the throne and we saw a lioness help Sarabi maybe that lion is Sarafina
I like the idea of scar being Nala dad and all but in a deleted scene in the lion king, scar sings a song about how he needs too make “Nala my QUEEN” so it is u luckily scar would be nalas father
Heyy everybody
You do realize that if Nala is somehow related (whether it be biological or via adoption) to Scar that would make Simba and Nala cousins.🤢
What happened to lion king two-
Finally, been waiting for this